RE: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sure, you can always manually update any app you want and skip others, of 
course then they will always be there showing that they have updates.
I wonder how many Sirius XM users who are upset about the lack of accessibility 
are in touch with the company on a regular basis lobbying for better 
accessibility. Yes, it takes a lot of effort to do this, but it can really pay 
off as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

If I turn off automatic app updates then nothing will get updated. Is there a 
way to not update an individual app such as Sirius XM?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

I do not know if it is geared to iOS 17, but do not be in a hurry to update. It 
has issues.


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On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Debbie Downey 
mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com>> wrote:

HI folks,

I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The app 
seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently updated 
apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17?

Thanks!

Debbie
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RE: Sirius XM support is less than helpful

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Then vote with your wallet and cancel your subscription. It is in my opinion 
not up to Apple to police accessibility or force companies to follow 
accessibility guidelines. If Sirius XM doesn’t care about visually impaired 
users then it should be their loss. I remember when I first started using Sonos 
and the app was really terrible. Then I started lobbying them for accessibility 
and a few others joined me, Neil Barnfather from the UK was very involved, and 
next thing Sonos started making changes and the app became better and better. 
Now it’s been perfectly accessible for well over 10 years and update after 
update accessibility remains good.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Sirius XM support is less than helpful

You know, well I suppose this is totally not realistic, I do wish Apple would 
put pressure on companies like SiriusXM, which had a really crappy app that 
sort of got better overtime until now. This is an audio centric app. They have 
to know that blind people use audio centric apps. It be nice if Apple would 
require audio centric apps to have all of their stuff labeled accessibly? I 
know it will never happen. But it should. I’m not asking for every app in the 
App Store to be fully accessible. But something like SiriusXM with a clearly 
audio centered thing, that should be made to be fully accessible to voiceover 
in order to get onto the App Store . I’m sorry, but this is crap!
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 14, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
When I called Sirius XM earlier today about the ton of unlabeled buttons, the 
person put me on hold to check. When she came back she said they removed all 
the labels for everyone.
I just had my wife look at the screen. The buttons are clearly labeled for 
sighted folks.
With StarplayrX broken, I will use the search feature to find what I want in 
Sirius until I decide it is no longer worth it.
If anyone else wants to call them, their number is:
(800) 689-6881

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RE: 17.2 and recognising music

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No issues here, either, I just had some Christmas music playing, in particular 
the song "Holy Night", and both Siri and the music recognition feature in 
control panel came back with "Holy Night by Nina Nesbit" which I thought was 
pretty good since there are probably a hundred artists who have done this song. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 17.2 and recognising music

I just tested both Siri and Shazam and both worked immediately.

Check your internet connection or clear your app switcher and try again.




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Subject: 17.2 and recognising music

Hi all,
since installing 17.2 Siri and Shazam will not recognise music. Siri says try 
again later and Shazam appears to do nothing.
I am using a 13 Pro. I have a friend who has a iPhone SE  who is having the 
same problem. My wife who doesn’t use VO has not trouble with her 14 Pro it 
works perfectly. I have turned off the bluetooth  incase working with my 
hearing aids was causing this with no change.
I wonder if VO is the problem.
Anybody else seeing this?
Thanks for any ideas.
Max.

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Re: Sirius XM support is less than helpful

[Mary Otten]

You know, well I suppose this is totally not realistic, I do wish Apple would put pressure on companies like SiriusXM, which had a really crappy app that sort of got better overtime until now. This is an audio centric app. They have to know that blind people use audio centric apps. It be nice if Apple would require audio centric apps to have all of their stuff labeled accessibly? I know it will never happen. But it should. I’m not asking for every app in the App Store to be fully accessible. But something like SiriusXM with a clearly audio centered thing, that should be made to be fully accessible to voiceover in order to get onto the App Store . I’m sorry, but this is crap! Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 14, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:When I called Sirius XM earlier today about the ton of unlabeled buttons, the person put me on hold to check. When she came back she said they removed all the labels for everyone. I just had my wife look at the screen. The buttons are clearly labeled for sighted folks. With StarplayrX broken, I will use the search feature to find what I want in Sirius until I decide it is no longer worth it. If anyone else wants to call them, their number is: (800) 689-6881Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

[Gordon]

I had to use the searched tab and do a search for the word all and then I
found the complete channel list. The thing that annoys me, the double tap
does not work to stop playback. So you either have to close it in the app
switcher, or search for the place/pause button to stop it. I love the way
it used to be because you could just zip to the channels real quickly if
you wanted to similar to changing the dial on a radio.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:46 PM Debbie Downey 
wrote:

> HI folks,
>
>
>
> I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The
> app seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently
> updated apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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>
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> Debbie
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Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

[Richard Turner]

Not if automatic updates is on. I don't use automatic update. I check for updates by doing a single finger triple tap on the app store icon, then flicking right to updates and double tapping. Then I touch near the bottom of the screen and do a three finger swipe down to refresh the screen. Then I read about the app updates before updating. I wish I hadn't jumped into the Sirius update, but I did. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 14, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:If I turn off automatic app updates then nothing will get updated. Is there a way to not update an individual app such as Sirius XM?   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:49 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8 I do not know if it is geared to iOS 17, but do not be in a hurry to update. It has issues.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:HI folks, I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The app seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently updated apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17? Thanks! Debbie-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/03d401da2ef8%24834e8820%2489eb9860%24%40tampabay.rr.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4AD7C594-B409-42B6-9196-E9D2FAB3EDF0%40comcast.net.



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RE: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

[Debbie Downey]

If I turn off automatic app updates then nothing will get updated. Is there a 
way to not update an individual app such as Sirius XM?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

 

I do not know if it is geared to iOS 17, but do not be in a hurry to update. It 
has issues. 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Debbie Downey mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com> > wrote:



HI folks,

 

I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The app 
seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently updated 
apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

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Here is what it says in the app store about which iOS is required:Compatibility, iPhone,Requires iOS 16.0 or later., iPad,Requires iPadOS 16.0 or later., Apple TV,Requires tvOS 16.0 or later.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I do not know if it is geared to iOS 17, but do not be in a hurry to update. It has issues. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:HI folks, I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The app seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently updated apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17? Thanks! Debbie



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Re: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

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I do not know if it is geared to iOS 17, but do not be in a hurry to update. It has issues. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:HI folks, I’ve got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The app seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently updated apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17? Thanks! Debbie



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RE: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

[Christopher Chaltain]

I had to go into the App Store and after going into my account I flicked up 
with three fingers to refresh my apps that had an update, and it showed up then.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
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Subject: Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

HI folks,

I've got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The app 
seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently updated 
apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17?

Thanks!

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RE: My Analysis Of the SiriusXM and StarplayrX Apps

[Christopher Chaltain]

To get to the NFL channels, I was able to go into the search tab, type NFL in 
the search field and then tap the last unlabeled button to get to all of the 
team channels. Of course, I also have some of these channels marked as 
favorites, so they show up in my library.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:01 PM
To: ViPhone List 
Subject: My Analysis Of the SiriusXM and StarplayrX Apps

Hi Group,

I sent this one to another list, but that is a more general tech list and not 
an Apple list.

Hi Group,

I also got the error with the StarplayrX app. It says 'error logging in; your 
IP address has been blocked for 24 hours because of too many log-in errors.'  
This is odd because I can still log in with my SiriusXM App and can connect 
without any issues.

As concerns the SiriusXM app itself, it is a definite decline in accessibility. 
I can get to many areas, but the app is much more graphical and has a huge 
amount of clutter that VoiceOver just doesn't handle properly. When I wanted to 
go to the NFL portion of sports, it took me five minutes to do this. Now maybe 
I'll get used to it and it will take less time over the next weeks and months, 
but it is bad in several ways. I am not sure,but I think that the screens are 
like a roller item because once I am on a particular page, I never seem to 
reach the tabs at the bottom. I see the various tabs, but I used to do a three 
finger swipe a few times and get to the bottom where the tabs were located or I 
could move slowly with one finger over the screen until I reach an area near 
the bottom and I would see the tabs. It is as if the tabs are moving or in the 
middle of the page or something I am not sure of.  Using the three finger swipe 
up and down to turn pages is now essential, but it is never as accurate as 
using the single finger left/right to move item by item.  More and more apps 
seem to be switching to this method and display more information per screen but 
give you less movement with screen reader commands.  Spectrum TV app changed to 
that kind of interface in September and I am finally getting somewhat use to 
it. It is still much more difficult and less accurate to get to a particular 
station than it used to be.

I have reported this via the settings/feedback to both the SiriusXM App and the 
StarplayrX app developers and hopefully (I doubt it) they may be able to 
restore some accessibility.  Yes, the items generally speaking do read and 
identify, so given enough time, I can find things.

When I first logged onto the SiriusXM app, it asked me to enable Siri for the 
app. I thought this might enable me to give a command such as:
Siri, open the NFL portion of the SiriusXM app' but this does not work.
I wonder what you can do with the SiriusXM app and Siri.

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Sirius XM update on an iPhone 8

[Debbie Downey]

HI folks,

 

I've got an iPhone 8 and have not seen an update for Sirius XM today. The
app seems the same to me and there is nothing in my account under recently
updated apps. Is the update geared toward iPhones that can run IOS 17?

 

Thanks!

 

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RE: My Analysis Of the SiriusXM and StarplayrX Apps

[Corey Cook]

So glad I did not update it this morning

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Analysis Of the SiriusXM and StarplayrX Apps

 

Another accessibility issue is Sirius XM will not respond to the two finger 
double tap to pause or play. You have to open the app and find the play/pause 
button and do a one finger double tap. 

You can say, Siri, play the nfl on sirius xm and it will play. Today, of 
course, that is just the Thursday night game. We shall see on Sunday if you can 
select a particular team with Siri but again, to pause it, you have to open the 
app. Pretty irritating. 

You can use the search tab. I've not had any issues finding the tabs at the 
bottom. I simply touch the bottom edge of the screen and there is discover, 
search, and library. 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Ron Canazzi mailto:aa...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

Hi Group,

I sent this one to another list, but that is a more general tech list and not 
an Apple list.

Hi Group,

I also got the error with the StarplayrX app. It says 'error logging in; your 
IP address has been blocked for 24 hours because of too many log-in errors.'  
This is odd because I can still log in with my SiriusXM App and can connect 
without any issues.

As concerns the SiriusXM app itself, it is a definite decline in accessibility. 
I can get to many areas, but the app is much more graphical and has a huge 
amount of clutter that VoiceOver just doesn't handle properly. When I wanted to 
go to the NFL portion of sports, it took me five minutes to do this. Now maybe 
I'll get used to it and it will take less time over the next weeks and months, 
but it is bad in several ways. I am not sure,but I think that the screens are 
like a roller item because once I am on a particular page, I never seem to 
reach the tabs at the bottom. I see the various tabs, but I used to do a three 
finger swipe a few times and get to the bottom where the tabs were located or I 
could move slowly with one finger over the screen until I reach an area near 
the bottom and I would see the tabs. It is as if the tabs are moving or in the 
middle of the page or something I am not sure of.  Using the three finger swipe 
up and down to turn pages is now essential, but it is never as accurate as 
using the single finger left/right to move item by item.  More and more apps 
seem to be switching to this method and display more information per screen but 
give you less movement with screen reader commands.  Spectrum TV app changed to 
that kind of interface in September and I am finally getting somewhat use to 
it. It is still much more difficult and less accurate to get to a particular 
station than it used to be.

I have reported this via the settings/feedback to both the SiriusXM App and the 
StarplayrX app developers and hopefully (I doubt it) they may be able to 
restore some accessibility.  Yes, the items generally speaking do read and 
identify, so given enough time, I can find things.

When I first logged onto the SiriusXM app, it asked me to enable Siri for the 
app. I thought this might enable me to give a command such as: Siri, open the 
NFL portion of the SiriusXM app' but this does not work. I wonder what you can 
do with the SiriusXM app and Siri.

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Re: My Analysis Of the SiriusXM and StarplayrX Apps

[Richard Turner]

Another accessibility issue is Sirius XM will not respond to the two finger 
double tap to pause or play. You have to open the app and find the play/pause 
button and do a one finger double tap. 
You can say, Siri, play the nfl on sirius xm and it will play. Today, of 
course, that is just the Thursday night game. We shall see on Sunday if you can 
select a particular team with Siri but again, to pause it, you have to open the 
app. Pretty irritating. 
You can use the search tab. I've not had any issues finding the tabs at the 
bottom. I simply touch the bottom edge of the screen and there is discover, 
search, and library. 

Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 14, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I sent this one to another list, but that is a more general tech list and not 
> an Apple list.
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I also got the error with the StarplayrX app. It says 'error logging in; your 
> IP address has been blocked for 24 hours because of too many log-in errors.'  
> This is odd because I can still log in with my SiriusXM App and can connect 
> without any issues.
> 
> As concerns the SiriusXM app itself, it is a definite decline in 
> accessibility. I can get to many areas, but the app is much more graphical 
> and has a huge amount of clutter that VoiceOver just doesn't handle properly. 
> When I wanted to go to the NFL portion of sports, it took me five minutes to 
> do this. Now maybe I'll get used to it and it will take less time over the 
> next weeks and months, but it is bad in several ways. I am not sure,but I 
> think that the screens are like a roller item because once I am on a 
> particular page, I never seem to reach the tabs at the bottom. I see the 
> various tabs, but I used to do a three finger swipe a few times and get to 
> the bottom where the tabs were located or I could move slowly with one finger 
> over the screen until I reach an area near the bottom and I would see the 
> tabs. It is as if the tabs are moving or in the middle of the page or 
> something I am not sure of.  Using the three finger swipe up and down to turn 
> pages is now essential, but it is never as accurate as using the single 
> finger left/right to move item by item.  More and more apps seem to be 
> switching to this method and display more information per screen but give you 
> less movement with screen reader commands.  Spectrum TV app changed to that 
> kind of interface in September and I am finally getting somewhat use to it. 
> It is still much more difficult and less accurate to get to a particular 
> station than it used to be.
> 
> I have reported this via the settings/feedback to both the SiriusXM App and 
> the StarplayrX app developers and hopefully (I doubt it) they may be able to 
> restore some accessibility.  Yes, the items generally speaking do read and 
> identify, so given enough time, I can find things.
> 
> When I first logged onto the SiriusXM app, it asked me to enable Siri for the 
> app. I thought this might enable me to give a command such as: Siri, open the 
> NFL portion of the SiriusXM app' but this does not work. I wonder what you 
> can do with the SiriusXM app and Siri.
> 
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RE: Sirius XM support is less than helpful

[Corey Cook]

SiriusXM listener care is a joke.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius XM support is less than helpful

 

I am not surprised, richard. I have found that the SiriusXM Customer Service 
“is not. They’re awful. At least they have been. I have had many discussions 
with them over the years. And mostly they were a pain in the backside. I hope 
they fix the damned app.

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On Dec 14, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

When I called Sirius XM earlier today about the ton of unlabeled buttons, the 
person put me on hold to check. When she came back she said they removed all 
the labels for everyone. 

I just had my wife look at the screen. The buttons are clearly labeled for 
sighted folks. 

With StarplayrX broken, I will use the search feature to find what I want in 
Sirius until I decide it is no longer worth it. 

If anyone else wants to call them, their number is: 

(800) 689-6881

 

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Re: Sirius XM support is less than helpful

[Mary Otten]

I am not surprised, richard. I have found that the SiriusXM Customer Service “is not. They’re awful. At least they have been. I have had many discussions with them over the years. And mostly they were a pain in the backside. I hope they fix the damned app.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 14, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:When I called Sirius XM earlier today about the ton of unlabeled buttons, the person put me on hold to check. When she came back she said they removed all the labels for everyone. I just had my wife look at the screen. The buttons are clearly labeled for sighted folks. With StarplayrX broken, I will use the search feature to find what I want in Sirius until I decide it is no longer worth it. If anyone else wants to call them, their number is: (800) 689-6881Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

[Carolyn Arnold]

In one of the emails here, there was a video on Siri and health from applevis. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 3:57 PM
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Subject: RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

What does health information have to do with the default tone?
If Siri says it can't tell you then possibly this is not something you can ask 
Siri yet or you aren't asking the right thing or if it concerns Health 
information you may not have allowed Siri access.
When I just tried (I had never asked Siri about Health information) I was told 
that I had to give access first and there was a button for Health Settings, 
once I tapped on it right at the top was the button to allow Siri access.
Keep in mind that if you manually go to Settings > Health that this is not 
under "Siri and Search" but under "Data Access and Devices".

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Arnold
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I need yo set something in Siri, but I can't figure how to get it to tell me 
health information. I followed Tom's steps, but there is something in Siri or 
somewhere else. Siri keeps telling me I can't tell you that. 

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Dennis Long
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Someone was looking for this the other day.
https://applevis.com/podcasts/how-change-default-notification-alert-ios
 
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My Analysis Of the SiriusXM and StarplayrX Apps

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Group,

I sent this one to another list, but that is a more general tech list 
and not an Apple list.


Hi Group,

I also got the error with the StarplayrX app. It says 'error logging in; 
your IP address has been blocked for 24 hours because of too many log-in 
errors.'  This is odd because I can still log in with my SiriusXM App 
and can connect without any issues.


As concerns the SiriusXM app itself, it is a definite decline in 
accessibility. I can get to many areas, but the app is much more 
graphical and has a huge amount of clutter that VoiceOver just doesn't 
handle properly. When I wanted to go to the NFL portion of sports, it 
took me five minutes to do this. Now maybe I'll get used to it and it 
will take less time over the next weeks and months, but it is bad in 
several ways. I am not sure,but I think that the screens are like a 
roller item because once I am on a particular page, I never seem to 
reach the tabs at the bottom. I see the various tabs, but I used to do a 
three finger swipe a few times and get to the bottom where the tabs were 
located or I could move slowly with one finger over the screen until I 
reach an area near the bottom and I would see the tabs. It is as if the 
tabs are moving or in the middle of the page or something I am not sure 
of.  Using the three finger swipe up and down to turn pages is now 
essential, but it is never as accurate as using the single finger 
left/right to move item by item.  More and more apps seem to be 
switching to this method and display more information per screen but 
give you less movement with screen reader commands.  Spectrum TV app 
changed to that kind of interface in September and I am finally getting 
somewhat use to it. It is still much more difficult and less accurate to 
get to a particular station than it used to be.


I have reported this via the settings/feedback to both the SiriusXM App 
and the StarplayrX app developers and hopefully (I doubt it) they may be 
able to restore some accessibility.  Yes, the items generally speaking 
do read and identify, so given enough time, I can find things.


When I first logged onto the SiriusXM app, it asked me to enable Siri 
for the app. I thought this might enable me to give a command such as: 
Siri, open the NFL portion of the SiriusXM app' but this does not work. 
I wonder what you can do with the SiriusXM app and Siri.


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SuperSense update ads AI descriptions much like Be My Eyes

[Richard Turner]

Today's update from SuperSense ads AI and an auto translate feature. It appears 
to me they have adopted pretty much the same thing that Be My Eyes added with 
the AI descriptions. It also uses AI in text scanning. And, as always, they 
promise more exciting updates to come. Don't hold your breath. 

Richard, USA
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Sirius XM support is less than helpful

[Richard Turner]

When I called Sirius XM earlier today about the ton of unlabeled buttons, the 
person put me on hold to check. When she came back she said they removed all 
the labels for everyone. 
I just had my wife look at the screen. The buttons are clearly labeled for 
sighted folks. 
With StarplayrX broken, I will use the search feature to find what I want in 
Sirius until I decide it is no longer worth it. 
If anyone else wants to call them, their number is: 
(800) 689-6881

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Re: SiriusXm issue

[Richard Turner]

I will agree with you that the app layout is better.  
I will be happier if they fix the button labels themselves rather than trying 
to create my own. 

Richard, USA
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> On Dec 14, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> Not sure how many people will agree with me, but I really like the new 
> SiriusXM app. There were things about the old app that I really hated, and I 
> try not to use that word. If I couldn't bring up something on my smart 
> speaker then I would dread having to bring up my app to look for something. 
> This new app seems a lot simpler and more intuitive to me. I've found two 
> places with unlabeled buttons, but it wasn't hard to figure out what they 
> did. Not sure if I can add VoiceOver labels or not. I had issues with the 
> previous app, but at least for me, the issues with the new app are more 
> palatable.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SiriusXm issue
> 
> Thanks Christopher. It didn't show up in today's updates for my iPhone. Also, 
> I'm still not able to log into the Starplayrx App that's meant to be the more 
> user-friendly Sirius app. In that APP, once you're logged in, you're always 
> logged in, that is, until this morning. Thanks for what you've been able to 
> share thus far.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The reports I'm seeing on Mastodon are not encouraging. No one has said 
>> they can't use it, but they are complaining about accessibility. I'm sure 
>> I'll be checking it out soon.
>> 
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>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue
>> 
>> I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone 
>> on Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
>> unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, 
>> so don't read too much into that.
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
>> Steele
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:07 PM
>> To: IPhone List 
>> Subject: SiriusXm issue
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
>> due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use 
>> the simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an 
>> error message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked 
>> from the APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and 
>> wonder if the APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any 
>> thoughts from other users?
>> 
>> 
>> +Peace & Blessings,
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Lyne]

Try that App :

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/bible/id282935706?l=fr-CA

Lyne

> Le 14 déc. 2023 à 18:32, Sharonda White-Goode  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Have you had any great experience adding some of the dictionaries, 
> encyclopedias and such that you can buy from their website? Are those things 
> accessible as well?
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:07 PM Robert Doc Wright 
>>  wrote:
>> Look for E-Sword bible
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "M. Taylor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:44 PM
>> Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app 
>> for iOS
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
>> that amount of time so:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
>> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
>> does not have to be free.
>> 
>> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
>> 
>> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
>> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
>> display.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: SiriusXm issue

[Christopher Chaltain]

Not sure how many people will agree with me, but I really like the new SiriusXM 
app. There were things about the old app that I really hated, and I try not to 
use that word. If I couldn't bring up something on my smart speaker then I 
would dread having to bring up my app to look for something. This new app seems 
a lot simpler and more intuitive to me. I've found two places with unlabeled 
buttons, but it wasn't hard to figure out what they did. Not sure if I can add 
VoiceOver labels or not. I had issues with the previous app, but at least for 
me, the issues with the new app are more palatable.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXm issue

Thanks Christopher. It didn't show up in today's updates for my iPhone. Also, 
I'm still not able to log into the Starplayrx App that's meant to be the more 
user-friendly Sirius app. In that APP, once you're logged in, you're always 
logged in, that is, until this morning. Thanks for what you've been able to 
share thus far.




> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
>
> The reports I'm seeing on Mastodon are not encouraging. No one has said they 
> can't use it, but they are complaining about accessibility. I'm sure I'll be 
> checking it out soon.
>
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> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue
>
> I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone 
> on Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
> unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, so 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:07 PM
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> Subject: SiriusXm issue
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
> due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use 
> the simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an 
> error message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked 
> from the APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and 
> wonder if the APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any 
> thoughts from other users?
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Sharonda White-Goode]

Have you had any great experience adding some of the dictionaries,
encyclopedias and such that you can buy from their website? Are those
things accessible as well?

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:07 PM Robert Doc Wright 
wrote:

> Look for E-Sword bible
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:44 PM
> Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app
> for iOS
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
> that amount of time so:
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for
> iOS
> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
> does not have to be free.
>
> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
>
> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
> display.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
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RE: StarplayrX broken

[Richard Turner]

Lynn,

Your message is blank.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
White
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: StarplayrX broken

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 14, 2023, at 1:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Apparently, with the new Sirius XM app, StarplayrX is broken.

Like others, I get the login error, too many login attemps even though there 
was only one.

It also shows Canada unchecked, with no other countries listed.

I thought maybe it was needing me to reenter my password.

Well, I somehow hadn’t written down my Sirius XM password so just went through 
some less than fun hoops to get my Sirius XM password reset.

But, alas, no joy.  That made no difference with StarplayrX.

 

Let’s hope the makers of StarplayrX release a fix…

 

 

 

Richard

"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."

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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Robert Doc Wright]

Look for E-Sword bible
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:44 PM
Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app 
for iOS


Hello Everyone,

Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
that amount of time so:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
does not have to be free.

I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.

If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
display.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: StarplayrX broken

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Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 14, 2023, at 1:40 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Apparently, with the new Sirius XM app, StarplayrX is broken.Like others, I get the login error, too many login attemps even though there was only one.It also shows Canada unchecked, with no other countries listed.I thought maybe it was needing me to reenter my password.Well, I somehow hadn’t written down my Sirius XM password so just went through some less than fun hoops to get my Sirius XM password reset.But, alas, no joy.  That made no difference with StarplayrX. Let’s hope the makers of StarplayrX release a fix…   Richard"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715)JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 



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RE: 17.2 and recognising music

[Richard Turner]

I just tested both Siri and Shazam and both worked immediately.

Check your internet connection or clear your app switcher and try again.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:59 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: 17.2 and recognising music

Hi all,
since installing 17.2 Siri and Shazam will not recognise music. Siri says try 
again later and Shazam appears to do nothing.
I am using a 13 Pro. I have a friend who has a iPhone SE  who is having the 
same problem. My wife who doesn’t use VO has not trouble with her 14 Pro it 
works perfectly. I have turned off the bluetooth  incase working with my 
hearing aids was causing this with no change.
I wonder if VO is the problem.
Anybody else seeing this?
Thanks for any ideas.
Max.

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RE: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

[Richard Turner]

Yes, that is the correct battery.
I've replaced mine a few ties in the years I have had the thermometer.  They 
tend to last a long time.  I always make sure I turn it off when I am done 
using it and confirming in the app that it says Probe not connected.





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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

Hi,
The battery on my iGrill died when I was getting ready to smoke a beautiful 
rack of pork ribs. What kind of battery do I need?If I remember correctly, it 
is a CR2032 3-volt battery and I can get a 10-pack of those on Amazon for 5 
bucks. Is that what I need?
Thanks,
Tom


> On Dec 14, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> This is what I use when roasting coffee. The nice thing about the app is 
> that VO speaks the temperature change when VO focus is on that element.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dave Lehnis
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
> 
> Thank you. I will check it out. Your assistance is much appreciated.
> 
> Dave Lehnis.
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use the iGrill Mini from Weber that is a leave-in thermometer.  The wire 
>> connecting the probe to the brains of the unit is close to 4 feet long so is 
>> works in ovens, on grills, etc.
>> 
>> This is a single probe.  I gather you can buy a set from 2 to 4 probes if 
>> you are cooking multiple things at once.
>> It is around $45 dollars at Amazon.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Weber-7202-iGrill-Mini/dp/B01M30DCHG/ref=sr_1_
>> 2
>> ?keywords=igrill+mini=1702576893=8-2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
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>> version 2024.2310.70.400
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dave Lehnis
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
>> 
>> I am hoping there might be a few suggestions for a meat thermometer that can 
>> be used with the iPhone. Most of them are for smokers and that could work 
>> but I will want an app so I can do the settings on my phone. Any suggestions 
>> will be quite helpful. I have an iPhone 11.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Dave Lehnis
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Another great Bible app, is bible.is.  That Bible app has a lot of
great audio versions of the Bible.  I have that app as well as
Uversion.

On 12/14/23, Duane Steele  wrote:
> Hello Mark,
>
> As a retired clergy-person who loves Bible study and uses a braille display
> every day, I strongly recommend using Voice Dream reader and downloading
> preferred Bible translations from Bookshare. That's what I do these days. I
> used to use Bible Gateway until one day, like so many APPS, it became almost
> impossible to use without sight. Feel free to contact me by phone or email
> for any  further assistance. You may call my cell phone which is part of my
> signature in this reply.
>
>
> +Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 4:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
>> that amount of time so:
>>
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for
>> iOS
>> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The
>> app
>> does not have to be free.
>>
>> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
>>
>> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a
>> web-based
>> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
>> display.
>>
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Duane Steele]

Hello Mark,

As a retired clergy-person who loves Bible study and uses a braille display 
every day, I strongly recommend using Voice Dream reader and downloading 
preferred Bible translations from Bookshare. That's what I do these days. I 
used to use Bible Gateway until one day, like so many APPS, it became almost 
impossible to use without sight. Feel free to contact me by phone or email for 
any  further assistance. You may call my cell phone which is part of my 
signature in this reply.


+Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Dec 14, 2023, at 4:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
> that amount of time so:
> 
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
> does not have to be free.
> 
> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
> 
> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
> display.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Haven't had to change mine yet so couldn’t say.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

Hi,
The battery on my iGrill died when I was getting ready to smoke a beautiful 
rack of pork ribs. What kind of battery do I need?If I remember correctly, it 
is a CR2032 3-volt battery and I can get a 10-pack of those on Amazon for 5 
bucks. Is that what I need?
Thanks,
Tom


> On Dec 14, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> This is what I use when roasting coffee. The nice thing about the app is 
> that VO speaks the temperature change when VO focus is on that element.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dave Lehnis
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
> 
> Thank you. I will check it out. Your assistance is much appreciated.
> 
> Dave Lehnis.
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use the iGrill Mini from Weber that is a leave-in thermometer.  The wire 
>> connecting the probe to the brains of the unit is close to 4 feet long so is 
>> works in ovens, on grills, etc.
>> 
>> This is a single probe.  I gather you can buy a set from 2 to 4 probes if 
>> you are cooking multiple things at once.
>> It is around $45 dollars at Amazon.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Weber-7202-iGrill-Mini/dp/B01M30DCHG/ref=sr_1_
>> 2
>> ?keywords=igrill+mini=1702576893=8-2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
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>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dave Lehnis
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
>> 
>> I am hoping there might be a few suggestions for a meat thermometer that can 
>> be used with the iPhone. Most of them are for smokers and that could work 
>> but I will want an app so I can do the settings on my phone. Any suggestions 
>> will be quite helpful. I have an iPhone 11.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Dave Lehnis
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Chela Robles]

I second You version Bible app it works very well with a braille display. I 
usually connect my e-reader from NLS and take it obviously to church with me 
and read the Bible that way when I follow along with the congregation when the 
pastor reads certain passages.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I like Dwell.
> It is a paid app, but it offers the Bible in several versions and many kinds 
> of daily devotionals all read in human voices with several voices to choose 
> from.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:44 PM
> Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app 
> for iOS
> 
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
>> that amount of time so:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
>> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
>> does not have to be free.
>> 
>> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
>> 
>> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
>> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
>> display.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
The battery on my iGrill died when I was getting ready to smoke a beautiful 
rack of pork ribs. What kind of battery do I need?If I remember correctly, it 
is a CR2032 3-volt battery and I can get a 10-pack of those on Amazon for 5 
bucks. Is that what I need?
Thanks,
Tom


> On Dec 14, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> This is what I use when roasting coffee. The nice thing about the app is 
> that VO speaks the temperature change when VO focus is on that element.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
> Lehnis
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
> 
> Thank you. I will check it out. Your assistance is much appreciated.
> 
> Dave Lehnis.
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use the iGrill Mini from Weber that is a leave-in thermometer.  The wire 
>> connecting the probe to the brains of the unit is close to 4 feet long so is 
>> works in ovens, on grills, etc.
>> 
>> This is a single probe.  I gather you can buy a set from 2 to 4 probes if 
>> you are cooking multiple things at once.
>> It is around $45 dollars at Amazon.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Weber-7202-iGrill-Mini/dp/B01M30DCHG/ref=sr_1_2
>> ?keywords=igrill+mini=1702576893=8-2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Dave Lehnis
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
>> 
>> I am hoping there might be a few suggestions for a meat thermometer that can 
>> be used with the iPhone. Most of them are for smokers and that could work 
>> but I will want an app so I can do the settings on my phone. Any suggestions 
>> will be quite helpful. I have an iPhone 11.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Dave Lehnis
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Andy Baracco]

I like Dwell.
It is a paid app, but it offers the Bible in several versions and many kinds 
of daily devotionals all read in human voices with several voices to choose 
from.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:44 PM
Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app 
for iOS




Hello Everyone,

Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
that amount of time so:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for 
iOS
that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The 
app

does not have to be free.

I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.

If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
display.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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RE: SiriusXm issue

[Corey Cook]

I was afraid of this happening


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue

You may not want to update yet.
It is usable, but lots of unlabeled buttons...




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue

The reports I'm seeing on Mastodon are not encouraging. No one has said they 
can't use it, but they are complaining about accessibility. I'm sure I'll be 
checking it out soon.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue

I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone on 
Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, so 
don't read too much into that.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:07 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: SiriusXm issue

Hello Listers,

Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use the 
simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an error 
message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked from the 
APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and wonder if the 
APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any thoughts from 
other users?


+Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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17.2 and recognising music

[Max]

Hi all,
since installing 17.2 Siri and Shazam will not recognise music. Siri says try 
again later and Shazam appears to do nothing.
I am using a 13 Pro. I have a friend who has a iPhone SE  who is having the 
same problem. My wife who doesn’t use VO has not trouble with her 14 Pro it 
works perfectly. I have turned off the bluetooth  incase working with my 
hearing aids was causing this with no change.
I wonder if VO is the problem.
Anybody else seeing this?
Thanks for any ideas.
Max.

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RE: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Corey Cook]

The bible app from You Version


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Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for 
iOS

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in that 
amount of time so:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS 
that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app 
does not have to be free.

I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.

If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based app 
will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille display.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
that amount of time so:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
does not have to be free.

I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.

If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
display.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What does health information have to do with the default tone?
If Siri says it can't tell you then possibly this is not something you can ask 
Siri yet or you aren't asking the right thing or if it concerns Health 
information you may not have allowed Siri access.
When I just tried (I had never asked Siri about Health information) I was told 
that I had to give access first and there was a button for Health Settings, 
once I tapped on it right at the top was the button to allow Siri access.
Keep in mind that if you manually go to Settings > Health that this is not 
under "Siri and Search" but under "Data Access and Devices".

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Arnold
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Subject: RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

I need yo set something in Siri, but I can't figure how to get it to tell me 
health information. I followed Tom's steps, but there is something in Siri or 
somewhere else. Siri keeps telling me I can't tell you that. 

-Original Message-
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Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 12:53 PM
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Subject: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

Someone was looking for this the other day.
https://applevis.com/podcasts/how-change-default-notification-alert-ios
 
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RE: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

This is what I use when roasting coffee. The nice thing about the app is that 
VO speaks the temperature change when VO focus is on that element.

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Thank you. I will check it out. Your assistance is much appreciated.

Dave Lehnis.

> On Dec 14, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I use the iGrill Mini from Weber that is a leave-in thermometer.  The wire 
> connecting the probe to the brains of the unit is close to 4 feet long so is 
> works in ovens, on grills, etc.
> 
> This is a single probe.  I gather you can buy a set from 2 to 4 probes if you 
> are cooking multiple things at once.
> It is around $45 dollars at Amazon.
> https://www.amazon.com/Weber-7202-iGrill-Mini/dp/B01M30DCHG/ref=sr_1_2
> ?keywords=igrill+mini=1702576893=8-2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS 
> version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Dave Lehnis
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth
> 
> I am hoping there might be a few suggestions for a meat thermometer that can 
> be used with the iPhone. Most of them are for smokers and that could work but 
> I will want an app so I can do the settings on my phone. Any suggestions will 
> be quite helpful. I have an iPhone 11.
> 
> Thanks.
> Dave Lehnis
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RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

[Dennis Long]

You can't use Siri to do it!

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Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 3:34 PM
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I need yo set something in Siri, but I can't figure how to get it to tell me 
health information. I followed Tom's steps, but there is something in Siri or 
somewhere else. Siri keeps telling me I can't tell you that. 

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Dennis Long
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Someone was looking for this the other day.
https://applevis.com/podcasts/how-change-default-notification-alert-ios
 
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RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

[Carolyn Arnold]

I need yo set something in Siri, but I can't figure how to get it to tell me 
health information. I followed Tom's steps, but there is something in Siri or 
somewhere else. Siri keeps telling me I can't tell you that. 

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Someone was looking for this the other day.
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RE: Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No issues here, but this can just be a temporary glitch and I have even noticed 
at times when peopl epost about difficulties with Siri that they can be 
location based, e.g. if you have issues where you are that may not mena others 
have issues elsewhere, maybe it goes through a different server or something 
like that.
Just make sure you give Siri a bit of time after you press the button, if you 
speak too quickly it may not hear the first part and therefore you get a bad 
result.
For example, I may say "Call John Smith", but if I speak too quickly all Siri 
hears is "John Smith" and then you get stuff like "What would you like to know 
about John Smith".

-Original Message-
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Robles
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri

Hello everybody I’m just wondering if you guys have any issues with Siri in iOS 
17.2 where in you launch an app and it says it’s having difficulties. I 
restarted my phone thinking that that would solve the issue and it’s not 
solving the issue so I have to manually start my apps, or at least some of them 
like for instance the watch app. 
Sent from my iPhone

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Siri

[Chela Robles]

Hello everybody I’m just wondering if you guys have any issues with Siri in iOS 
17.2 where in you launch an app and it says it’s having difficulties. I 
restarted my phone thinking that that would solve the issue and it’s not 
solving the issue so I have to manually start my apps, or at least some of them 
like for instance the watch app. 
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Re: StarplayrX broken

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Thanks Richard. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who can no longer use StarPlayrx. If I find the oew APP unuseable, I'll just cancel it. I don't listen to too much football anymore, anyway. We'll see.On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Apparently, with the new Sirius XM app, StarplayrX is broken.Like others, I get the login error, too many login attemps even though there was only one.It also shows Canada unchecked, with no other countries listed.I thought maybe it was needing me to reenter my password.Well, I somehow hadn’t written down my Sirius XM password so just went through some less than fun hoops to get my Sirius XM password reset.But, alas, no joy.  That made no difference with StarplayrX. Let’s hope the makers of StarplayrX release a fix…   Richard"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715)JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 



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Re: SiriusXm issue

[Duane Steele]

Thanks Christopher. It didn't show up in today's updates for my iPhone. Also, 
I'm still not able to log into the Starplayrx App that's meant to be the more 
user-friendly Sirius app. In that APP, once you're logged in, you're always 
logged in, that is, until this morning. Thanks for what you've been able to 
share thus far.
 



> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> The reports I'm seeing on Mastodon are not encouraging. No one has said they 
> can't use it, but they are complaining about accessibility. I'm sure I'll be 
> checking it out soon.
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue
> 
> I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone 
> on Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
> unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, so 
> don't read too much into that.
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
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> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: SiriusXm issue
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
> due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use 
> the simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an 
> error message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked 
> from the APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and 
> wonder if the APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any 
> thoughts from other users?
> 
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RE: SiriusXm issue

[Richard Turner]

You may not want to update yet.
It is usable, but lots of unlabeled buttons...




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue

The reports I'm seeing on Mastodon are not encouraging. No one has said they 
can't use it, but they are complaining about accessibility. I'm sure I'll be 
checking it out soon.

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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue

I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone on 
Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, so 
don't read too much into that.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:07 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: SiriusXm issue

Hello Listers,

Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use the 
simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an error 
message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked from the 
APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and wonder if the 
APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any thoughts from 
other users?


+Peace & Blessings,
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StarplayrX broken

[Richard Turner]

Apparently, with the new Sirius XM app, StarplayrX is broken.

Like others, I get the login error, too many login attemps even though there
was only one.

It also shows Canada unchecked, with no other countries listed.

I thought maybe it was needing me to reenter my password.

Well, I somehow hadn't written down my Sirius XM password so just went
through some less than fun hoops to get my Sirius XM password reset.

But, alas, no joy.  That made no difference with StarplayrX.

 

Let's hope the makers of StarplayrX release a fix.

 

 

 

Richard

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it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
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RE: SiriusXm issue

[Christopher Chaltain]

The reports I'm seeing on Mastodon are not encouraging. No one has said they 
can't use it, but they are complaining about accessibility. I'm sure I'll be 
checking it out soon.

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SiriusXm issue

I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone on 
Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, so 
don't read too much into that.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:07 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: SiriusXm issue

Hello Listers,

Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use the 
simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an error 
message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked from the 
APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and wonder if the 
APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any thoughts from 
other users?


+Peace & Blessings,
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RE: SiriusXm issue

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't seen the new update yet either, but I've been tooting with someone on 
Mastodon who is using it, and his biggest complaint so far seems to be 
unlabeled buttons. That's only been a few hundred of characters exchanged, so 
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Steele
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 12:07 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: SiriusXm issue

Hello Listers,

Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use the 
simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an error 
message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked from the 
APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and wonder if the 
APP may have been shut down temporarily, or permanently. Any thoughts from 
other users?


+Peace & Blessings,
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RE: SiriusXm issue

[jimfettgather]

May I say that after many years of using StarPlayrX, I am also getting this 
login error.
I hope it might be temporary, time will tell. 
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 10:07 AM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: SiriusXm issue

Hello Listers,

Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use the 
simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an error 
message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked from the 
APP for 24 hours. I don't recall these "incorrect logins", and wonder if the 
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SiriusXm issue

[Duane Steele]

Hello Listers,

Recently, there was discussion about the forthcoming "improved" SiriusXM APP 
due for release today. So far, there's been no change. However, I also use the 
simple StarplayrX APP, and, today, when opening the APP, I received an error 
message that because of so many incorrect logins, I've been blocked from the 
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RE: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

[Richard Turner]

I use the iGrill Mini from Weber that is a leave-in thermometer.  The wire 
connecting the probe to the brains of the unit is close to 4 feet long so is 
works in ovens, on grills, etc.

This is a single probe.  I gather you can buy a set from 2 to 4 probes if you 
are cooking multiple things at once.
It is around $45 dollars at Amazon.
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Subject: Digital meet thermometer with Bluetooth

I am hoping there might be a few suggestions for a meat thermometer that can be 
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Re: Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

[Grant Downey]

Thanks for your email!

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM Kliph  wrote:

> There his a free app called, MCBackup, it scans your contacts, and has
> them email them to yourself, you tap on the file, and import them, just
> make sure iCloud or the account you want them to go to is the default, here
> is the link.
> [image: preview.png]
> 
> My Contacts Backup 
> Address Book Backup 
> 
>
> HTH
> For free audio tutorials Checkout MacForTheBlind’s
> Podcast 
> Youtube Playlist
> 
> And website for training and services.
>
> On Dec 14, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.
>
> I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy
> way to achieve this.
>
> For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail
> but I would like them all to be stored in iCloud.
>
> Any advice welcome.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

[Grant Downey]

Thanks for your email!

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:26 AM Malcolm Parfitt 
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> Hello,
>
> I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.
>
> I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy
> way to achieve this.
>
> For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail
> but I would like them all to be stored in iCloud.
>
> Any advice welcome.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.

I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy way to 
achieve this.

For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail but I 
would like them all to be stored in iCloud.

Any advice welcome.
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RE: Haptic time

['Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone]

I am having the same issue and I am waiting on Apple support to contat me as we 
have an acall appointment.

I will share any info I get. Its really driving me crazy.

Linda Knight

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 02:13
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I 
made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it giv 
eme haptic time.
I wonder if there is some other setting which causes  you to tap 3 times and 4 
times instead of 2 and 3 times.

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know 
> if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
> --
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Parham Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
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Re: Haptic time

[Earle]

A 1-finger double-tap almost always gives me the haptic time. I have an Apple 
watch ultra and I'm running the latest version of Watch OS.

Earle
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:34 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> One finger double tap has worked for me for about a year,  but I do recall 
> that on my previous Series 7 watch I had to do several resets until it 
> started working properly!  It really should not be left in this precarious 
> state by Apple!
> Harry
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course 
>> I made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it 
>> giv eme haptic time.
>> I wonder if there is some other setting which causes  you to tap 3 times and 
>> 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Haptic time
>> 
>> On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine Harry
>> 
 On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't 
>>> know if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to 
>>> work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>>> 
>>> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute 
>>> in haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
>>> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
>>> of the recent updates.
>>> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
>>> it.”
>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>> 
>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher,
>>> 
>>> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.
>>> 
>>> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
>>> 
>>> Smile.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Christopher Chaltain
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>>> 
>>> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
>>> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if 
>>> this is true for anyone else.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Parham Doustdar
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Haptic time
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've 
>>> noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen 
>>> doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes 
>>> it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
 
 Hello list
 
 I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part 
 of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the 
 night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand 
 gesture settings?
 
 Regards
 
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RE: Why aren’t messages deleted if I deleted on one device?

[M. Taylor]

Ah! Mary, Mary, Mary!

As difficult as it is to believe, Apple continues to exclude messages, on Apple 
Watch, from the across-device deletion ecosystem.  It drives me mad, also.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 6:06 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Why aren’t messages deleted if I deleted on one device?

I get text messages, and I have an Apple Watch and an iPhone. If I delete 
something on my iPhone, it will even say this will be deleted on all of your 
devices, but it isn’t. And I don’t think the watch actually says things will be 
deleted on all my devices, but why not? And this could also apply to 
notifications. If I have notifications on my screen and I delete them all from 
the lock screen, why do I have to continue to do that when I go into 
notifications? I don’t want to keep deleting and deleting and deleting the same 
darn thing on multiple devices in multiple places. What am I missing? I want 
them gone everywhere if I deleted once. Is that too much to ask or am I missing 
something?
Mary

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