Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Grant Downey]

Thanks for your email!

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 11:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for Voiceover
> and this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen for
> you.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Grant Downey
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 16, 2023 3:48 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your email!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice,
> while on the charger over night.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.
>
> For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my
> iPhone 15 Pro Max.
>
> For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This
> has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.
>
> If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the
> morning.
>
> Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.
>
> It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.
>
> I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum
> Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps
> we could now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger
> overnight?
>
>
> Any thoughts welcome.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[James Bentley]

This information is extremely helpful because it is accurate and explained with 
clear examples.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 1:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to 
show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an 
email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my 
computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent 
folder or wherever I move it to.

Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don’t want it 
because it’s spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said 
email to be deleted on all my devices?

As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your 
mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local 
copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read 
an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email 
and it shows as replied to  on the other, you sent an email on one device and 
the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You 
add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is 
also there on your computer and vice versa. 

It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work 
when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never 
designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can 
specify to “leave mail on server” on one device, but then this does not do 
anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on 
your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on 
your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent 
messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the 
past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it’s definitely 
not.

The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything 
is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, 
you don’t even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then 
restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new 
device when you set up the account and everything magically appears.

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
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Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If I do a triple tap during the day all I get is minutes and I can reproduce 
this over and over.
Just now, it’s 11:45 PM so well past the start of my 10:30 PM sleep focus, a 
double tap once again does nothing and the triple tap consistently gives me 
hours and minutes in haptic time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support


Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if 
your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply.

From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2



Hi all,

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.
Is there such a thing.

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support


Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, that is how I have it set up, sleep focus starts at 10:30 PM and that is 
the case on both my iPhone and Apple Watch. If I get up at 6:30 AM or any time 
before 7, I often get a notification on my watcch which says “It looks like you 
are awake” and I am then asked if I want to turn off the 7 AM alarm.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes 
on my iPhone, it’ll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> 
focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don’t have my watch 
with me right now, but I’d check to see if there’s a way to toggle focus in the 
control panel.

BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into 
sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and 
configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone.

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From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2



Hi all,

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.
Is there such a thing.

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support


Best regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for Voiceover and 
this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen for you.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Grant 
Downey
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

Thanks for your email!

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold 
<2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on 
the charger over night.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 
15 Pro Max.

For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This has 
been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.

If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning.

Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.

It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.

I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose 
It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps we could 
now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight?


Any thoughts welcome.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to 
show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an 
email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my 
computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent 
folder or wherever I move it to.
Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don’t want it 
because it’s spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said 
email to be deleted on all my devices?
As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your 
mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local 
copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read 
an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email 
and it shows as replied to  on the other, you sent an email on one device and 
the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You 
add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is 
also there on your computer and vice versa.
It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work 
when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never 
designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can 
specify to “leave mail on server” on one device, but then this does not do 
anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on 
your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on 
your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent 
messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the 
past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it’s definitely 
not.
The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything 
is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, 
you don’t even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then 
restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new 
device when you set up the account and everything magically appears.

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?
Thanks  John Riehl
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Re: StarplayrX Working Again

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Group,

I had closed the StarplayrX down overnight 12/15/2023 and then tried 
opening it for the football games around 12:30 PM 12/16/2023 EST.  I got 
the log in error once. I was presented with a log in screen. I typed in 
my password again and the app has been working since then with the app 
closed and reopened a few times. I wonder if this is going to be a 
chronic issue and if the developer knows about it. He actually has a 
website devoted to this and other apps he has created. His name is Todd 
Bruss and the website address is:

http://starplayrx.com/

I do not see an e-mail link on the page.

On 12/15/2023 6:05 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

For all of yesterday, I was getting the log in error for StarplayrX.  
I tried it this afternoon and it is working again.

Can anyone else confirm this?




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RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Christopher Chaltain]

On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes 
on my iPhone, it'll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> 
focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don't have my watch 
with me right now, but I'd check to see if there's a way to toggle focus in the 
control panel.

BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into 
sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and 
configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone.

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From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2



Hi all,

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.
Is there such a thing.

Thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support


Best regards,
Sieghard
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sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

['Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone]

 

 

Hi all,

 

How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode.

Is there such a thing.

 

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Interesting. I’m not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple 

watchOS updates. I’ll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

 

Hi,

 

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.

The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

 

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

 

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.

I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.

Here is what I discovered:

 

I have a daily “sleep” focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.

I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.

However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

 

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

 

What I don’t understand is that why we can’t use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
“Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of “Always”.

According to the article, if you don’t use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

 

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support 

 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Grant Downey]

Thanks for your email!

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice,
> while on the charger over night.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
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>
> For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my
> iPhone 15 Pro Max.
>
> For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This
> has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.
>
> If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the
> morning.
>
> Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.
>
> It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.
>
> I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum
> Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps
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RE: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on 
the charger over night. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 
15 Pro Max.

For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This has 
been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.

If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning.

Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.

It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.

I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose 
It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps we could 
now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight?


Any thoughts welcome.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Christopher Chaltain]

I also have an SE. I wouldn't think this would make any difference, but maybe 
this plays into it somehow.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2


On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger 
double taps.  I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.



I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never 
gotten that to work either.  Poor sighted folks. :)



Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and 
four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode 
on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do 
have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch 
has also worked this way through multiple
watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from 
Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

Hi,

According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping 
the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours 
and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes 
indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep.

In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only 
reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for 
minutes.

I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably 
applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have 
the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling 
stuff.
Here is what I discovered:

I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger 
double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap 
starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the 
minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep 
focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine 
and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is 
active it will give me hours and minutes.

I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this 
is a bug, but not sure until they reply.

What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic 
time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is 
available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said 
"Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always".
According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers 
on the screen for a moment to get haptic time.

Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple 
Support


Best regards,
Sieghard
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Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Grant Downey]

Thanks for your email!

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 1:23 PM Malcolm Parfitt 
wrote:

> For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my
> iPhone 15 Pro Max.
>
> For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This
> has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.
>
> If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the
> morning.
>
> Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.
>
> It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.
>
> I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum
> Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps
> we could now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger
> overnight?
>
> Any thoughts welcome.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 
15 Pro Max.

For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This has 
been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.

If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning.

Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.

It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.

I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose 
It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps we could 
now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight?

Any thoughts welcome.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, and I forgot to add that the top three data usage apps were DIRECTV, 
Personal Hotspot, and App Store respectively.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the info and no offense taken. I use the phone for all of my 
> internet type needs, including surfing the web, email, and watching TV. And 
> although this may change  with the new phones, the two iPhone mini phones I 
> have right now, neither of them can make it through a full day without having 
> to be charged. And too, should something happen with one of the phones, I 
> would still have a way to contact someone with the other one. I wanted to 
> stay with AT and get internet service with them, but they only offered in 
> my area a router or something that used cellular data with a limit of 50 GB, 
> anyway, so I just opted for the second line instead. My billing period starts 
> on the 27th of each month, and I just checked the cellular data usage on each 
> phone, as I reset every month right at the beginning of the billing period, 
> and one phone has used 24.1 GB while the other has used 24.7 GB so far.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I 
>> say, I mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having 
>> two phone plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, 
>> that is still almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years 
>> and I run a business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I 
>> have never felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and 
>> even though my wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery 
>> because we almost never use it and forget to charge it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins
>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro
>> 
>> I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
>> know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
>> using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like 
>> that to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the 
>> Apple Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 
>> 13 mini. I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them 
>> interchangeably to charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get 
>> two separate wired earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for 
>> charging the battery and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro 
>> would be appreciated. Thanks.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

Thanks for all the info and no offense taken. I use the phone for all of my 
internet type needs, including surfing the web, email, and watching TV. And 
although this may change  with the new phones, the two iPhone mini phones I 
have right now, neither of them can make it through a full day without having 
to be charged. And too, should something happen with one of the phones, I would 
still have a way to contact someone with the other one. I wanted to stay with 
AT and get internet service with them, but they only offered in my area a 
router or something that used cellular data with a limit of 50 GB, anyway, so I 
just opted for the second line instead. My billing period starts on the 27th of 
each month, and I just checked the cellular data usage on each phone, as I 
reset every month right at the beginning of the billing period, and one phone 
has used 24.1 GB while the other has used 24.7 GB so far. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I say, 
> I mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having two 
> phone plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, that is 
> still almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years and I run 
> a business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I have never 
> felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and even though my 
> wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery because we almost 
> never use it and forget to charge it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro
> 
> I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
> know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
> using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
> to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
> Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 
> mini. I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them 
> interchangeably to charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get 
> two separate wired earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for 
> charging the battery and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro 
> would be appreciated. Thanks.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Andy Baracco]

Well, that's how IMAP works. Some like that feature and others do not.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:30 AM
  Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices


  I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

  Thanks  John Riehl 


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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Dennis Long]

Set it up as pop3.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 11:11 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices
 
Yeah that’s just how the IMAP protocol works; I don’t think there’s anything 
you can do about it.



On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:
 
I do not know that you can prevent that when using Exchange or iMap.
 
I think I would call either, or both, Microsoft or Apple to see if they have 
knowledge of a setting to do what you want.
 
 
 
 
 
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“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices
 
I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?
Thanks  John Riehl 
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RE: StarplayrX Working Again

[Dennis Long]

Your message is  empty.  People need to really watch this

-Original Message-
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White
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: StarplayrX Working Again


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> For all of yesterday, I was getting the log in error for StarplayrX.  I tried 
> it this afternoon and it is working again.
> Can anyone else confirm this?
> 
> 
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Re: StarplayrX Working Again

[Lynn White]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> For all of yesterday, I was getting the log in error for StarplayrX.  I tried 
> it this afternoon and it is working again.
> Can anyone else confirm this?
> 
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Re: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Brandon Olivares]

Yeah that’s just how the IMAP protocol works; I don’t think there’s anything 
you can do about it.

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not know that you can prevent that when using Exchange or iMap.
>  
> I think I would call either, or both, Microsoft or Apple to see if they have 
> knowledge of a setting to do what you want.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>  
>  
> From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices
>  
> I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
> only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
> had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means 
> that, unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I 
> download them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems 
> to mean  that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also 
> somehow deleted from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How 
> do I prevent this from happening?
> Thanks  John Riehl
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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Richard Turner]

I do not know that you can prevent that when using Exchange or iMap.

 

I think I would call either, or both, Microsoft or Apple to see if they have 
knowledge of a setting to do what you want.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

['john riehl' via VIPhone]

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means
that, unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I
download them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems
to mean  that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it's also
somehow deleted from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How
do I prevent this from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Dan]

  
  
On my Apple Watch SE I have never been
able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps.  I have
always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.

  
I have also turned VO off and tried the 2
finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work
either.  Poor sighted folks. :)

  
Dan Beaver 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher
  Chaltain wrote:


  
  
Interesting. I’m not sure anyone
other than myself has said they use three and four taps for
haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep
mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere
that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set
to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked
this way through multiple
  
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested
to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have
something that works pretty reliably for me.
 

  --
  Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
  Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

  
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On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
  

 
Hi,
 
According to Apple, Voiceover users can use
  the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple
  Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and
  minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want
  minutes indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch
  screen is off/asleep.
 
In a recent discussion it seems many people
  say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3
  times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes.
 
I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm
  that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I
  discovered the following which probably applies also to my
  series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have
  the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it
  comes to selling stuff.
Here is what I discovered:
 
I have a daily “sleep” focus set which
  starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g.
  the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing
  except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts
  hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just
  the minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM
  and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the
  double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the
  triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep
  focus is active it will give me hours and minutes.
 
I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message
  regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure
  until they reply.
 
What I don’t understand is that why we
  can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic
  time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available
  to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you
  said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of
  “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use
  Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment
  to get haptic time.
 
Tell time with haptic feedback on
Apple Watch - Apple Support
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
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