Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-25 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Mark,  you are quite right - this feature no longer works! 
Time to report to Apple
Harry

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 06:05, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

2023-12-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the
Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the
following on your iOS 17.2 device:

1.
>From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.

2.
Enable Speak Selection.

3.
Enable Speak Screen.

4.
Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.

Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a
list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to
work.

There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen
but, try as I may, I cannot find them.

By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.

All replies most appreciated.

Mark


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RE: Seeing own messages from Google

2023-12-25 Thread M. Taylor
Max,

You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.

Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted to 
the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
limitation of Google.

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:27 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Seeing own messages from Google

Hi all,
I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have forgotten 
the answer.
How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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RE: Hearing aids and HomePods

2023-12-25 Thread Richard
Max,

I have found hearing aids do use the same Bluetooth arrangement and frequencies 
that other audio devices use. I fear you cannot use two audio devices at the 
same time. It is at least possible that the app that manages your hearing aid 
connection to your iPhone could allow some flexibility. 
* Your audiologist might have useful information and your hearing aids might be 
more flexible than mine. 
* Apple telephone accessibility technical support could also help. The phone 
number is 1-877-204-3930. Others on the list may know of a text-based option if 
texting them is better for you..

I hope you find a satisfactory solution.

Richard Petty
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 4:21 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Hearing aids and HomePods

Hi all,
yesterday being Christmas day here we wanted to listen to some Christmas music 
from a radio station on our HomePods using my iPhone.
I held my phone near the HomePods to transfer the program to them. This would 
not work I felt the vibration that normally indicates the transfer process 
should occur. 
So no music!
Thismorning Tuesday I thought I would try again. However I had not turned on my 
hearing aids before trying connect the phone and the HomePods. All worked as 
you would expect.
So it appears that I can’t play music from my phone if I have already turned on 
my hearing aids. I do have the aids connected to the phone via bluetooth.  It 
was my understanding that aids connected on a different frequency to normal 
bluetooth. Could others try and replicate this and let us know there findings 
before I contact Disability support.
Thanks for any ideas.
Max.

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RE: Okay, I Think I'm Addicted, to the New Apple Journalling App for iOS 17.2 or Later

2023-12-25 Thread Richard
Oh! I should not have missed that. The information was clearly in the earlier 
messages in the thread. My error entirely. Hitting forehead with palm of hand. 
Smile.

Sorry to trouble  everyone.

The Journal app is a nice app. 

Thank you for your help!

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 11s:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Okay, I Think I'm Addicted, to the New Apple Journalling App for 
iOS 17.2 or Later

It is simply called Journal and if you don't have it then I assume maybe you 
have not yet updated to iOS 17.2. It is a new addition in that version and not 
resent in the original iOS 17 release nor the iOS 17.1 release.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Okay, I Think I'm Addicted, to the New Apple Journalling App for 
iOS 17.2 or Later

How will I locate this app? Is it part of iOS? Or, in the app store? I've 
searched through my app library without finding anything similar. I've also 
searched the app store, also without success. Is there another name than Apple 
Journalling app?

Will appreciate any help that can be offered.

Best,

Richard Petty
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Okay, I Think I'm Addicted, to the New Apple Journalling App for 
iOS 17.2 or Later

Agree 100% the app is indeed awesome! I only wish they’d integrate Spotify, 
Netflix and other 3rd-party streaming apps, which hopefully, in due time will 
happen.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 24 dic 2023, a la(s) 7:39 a.m., M. Taylor  escribió:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I started using the Apple Journalling app, a couple of days ago, and 
> wow!  I think I'm in love.
> 
> I have the app set to automatically make suggestions, based on my 
> activity, throughout the day, and boy is it thorough.  These 
> suggestions are excellent launch pads from which to compose an entry.
> 
> One can either type an entry or make an audio entry, kind of like an 
> officer's log frequently used throughout the Star Trek television franchise.
> 
> You know, many, many moons ago, when I was but a lad, I used to keep a 
> daily (almost daily) journal, in hardcopy Braille.  I think I did this 
> for over 7 years and, eventually, the amount of paper grew too large 
> to store in my tiny, one bedroom apartment, so I gave it up.
> 
> Now fast-forward, in time, and now we have the technology to not only 
> write with a Braille display or QWERTY keyboard but to also make 
> recordings and store that precious information on a tiny handheld 
> device.  Absolutely amazing!
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Seeing own messages from Google

2023-12-25 Thread Richard Turner
As far as I know, you cannot. Your message about hearing aids came through. 

Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 25, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Max  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have 
> forgotten the answer.
> How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Seeing own messages from Google

2023-12-25 Thread Max
Hi all,
I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have forgotten 
the answer.
How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Hearing aids and HomePods

2023-12-25 Thread Max
Hi all,
yesterday being Christmas day here we wanted to listen to some Christmas music 
from a radio station on our HomePods using my iPhone.
I held my phone near the HomePods to transfer the program to them. This would 
not work I felt the vibration that normally indicates the transfer process 
should occur. 
So no music!
Thismorning Tuesday I thought I would try again. However I had not turned on my 
hearing aids before trying connect the phone and the HomePods. All worked as 
you would expect.
So it appears that I can’t play music from my phone if I have already turned on 
my hearing aids. I do have the aids connected to the phone via bluetooth.  It 
was my understanding that aids connected on a different frequency to normal 
bluetooth. Could others try and replicate this and let us know there findings 
before I contact Disability support.
Thanks for any ideas.
Max.

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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Thanks, Mark. Do you have to have two-factor authentication? 

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From: M. Taylor [mailto:mk...@ucla.edu] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Carolyn,

You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in.

You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new 
one on the fly.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
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-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-25 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Carolyn,

You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in.

You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new 
one on the fly.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


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Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-25 Thread Richard Turner
If after you select you need visual help, or whatever it says, if it doesn't 
prompt you to set up an account,  check the bottom right corner for the 
settings tab and double tap. Then, follow the prompts. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, SuperSense is an app, and it is over priced. You can get everything it 
> offers between free apps, Seeing AI, Be My Eyes, and Envision AI. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
>> 
>> I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
>> Supersense.
>> 
>> Envision gave me the following:
>> 
>> Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a 
>> small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green 
>> chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A 
>> TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered 
>> around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
>> 
>> 
>> There is no television in the room.
>> 
>> Be My AI give me:
>> 
>> The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
>> fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the 
>> mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are 
>> several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.
>> 
>> In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
>> reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
>> with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.
>> 
>> Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms 
>> and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical 
>> object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.
>> 
>> The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, 
>> and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a 
>> traditional holiday feel.
>> 
>> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
>> 
>> Supersense gave me:
>> 
>> The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
>> Focusing from the top of the image downwards:
>> 
>> At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
>> the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
>> framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
>> mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red 
>> face.
>> 
>> On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
>> giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
>> beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
>> front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a 
>> decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part 
>> of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat 
>> is placed in front of the fireplace.
>> 
>> On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. 
>> On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and 
>> geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 
>> 
>> On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
>> blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with 
>> the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking 
>> a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image 
>> below.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>> 
>>On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>Hello Richard,
>> 
>>Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture 
>> available when Smart Scan is active?
>> 
>>Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your 
>> device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.
>>
>>Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>> 
>>On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-25 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, SuperSense is an app, and it is over priced. You can get everything it 
offers between free apps, Seeing AI, Be My Eyes, and Envision AI. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
> Supersense.
> 
> Envision gave me the following:
> 
> Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small 
> snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, 
> one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is 
> mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around 
> the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
> 
> 
> There is no television in the room.
> 
> Be My AI give me:
> 
> The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
> fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel 
> hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several 
> Christmas cards and a small framed photo.
> 
> In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
> reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
> with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.
> 
> Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms 
> and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical 
> object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.
> 
> The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, 
> and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional 
> holiday feel.
> 
> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
> 
> Supersense gave me:
> 
> The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
> Focusing from the top of the image downwards:
> 
> At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
> the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
> framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
> mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red 
> face.
> 
> On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
> giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
> beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
> front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a 
> decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of 
> the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is 
> placed in front of the fireplace.
> 
> On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. 
> On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and 
> geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 
> 
> On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
> blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with 
> the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking 
> a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image 
> below.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
>On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>Hello Richard,
> 
>Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture 
> available when Smart Scan is active?
> 
>Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your 
> device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.
>
>Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
>On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
> descriptions. 
>I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room 
> with a tv on a table." 
>I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 
> 
>The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On 
> the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. 
> In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the 
> stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, 
> there's a lamp with a 

RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
Supersense.

Envision gave me the following:

Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small 
snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, 
one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is 
mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around 
the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.


There is no television in the room.

Be My AI give me:

The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel 
hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several 
Christmas cards and a small framed photo.

In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.

Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and 
legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object 
that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.

The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and 
blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional 
holiday feel.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.

Supersense gave me:

The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
Focusing from the top of the image downwards:

At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.

On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative 
item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the 
decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed 
in front of the fireplace.

On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On 
the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric 
designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 

On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the 
lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy 
atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:




Hello Richard,

Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture 
available when Smart Scan is active?

Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your 
device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about 
improved descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a 
room with a tv on a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely 
atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket 
draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, 
and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the 
right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind 
the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On 
the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, 
suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted 
in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree 
above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner 
of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be 
sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.


Re: Sirius app update improvements and observations

2023-12-25 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings. After doing more playing with the app, I am getting used to it and am liking the new design. For instance, if you double tap the now playing info at the top, the now playing screen will open up and seems to be a lot less cluttered than the way it was before. Plus, all buttons and items are labeled. I was very pleased to find that 1 swipe after the play button was the Go Live button. On the older version, Go Live was 3 or 4 flicks right, which I found a little annoying. It wasn’t a huge issue but I still found it inconvenient that Go Live was several swipes away from other useful content. I haven’t explored everything I’m sure, and there are definitely things that could be better. For instance, I miss my nice list of favorites from the old app. Although, the new design has removed buttons after the channel name. I also miss the rewind and fast forward buttons. Those made skipping songs, particularly on the weekly countdown shows I enjoy, very convenient. It takes some getting used to, and there are still more things to work on, but I’m warming up to the new app’s design.Happy holidays to all,WayneWayne MerrittJAWS Certified, 2023http://freedomscientific.com/certificationConnect with me on GoodReads:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Dec 22, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Your method seems to be the only way to really narrow it down to the NFL teams, but it would be much better if they put them in alphabetical order. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 22, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I find the easiest way to find the list of NFL team channels is still the way I posted last week. I go into the search tab and type NFL in the search field. The team channels are the
 first thing to come up.
 
I also noticed that in the discovery tab, you can flick down by heading to get to an around the NFL section to get to other NFL related content, but it doesn’t seem to include the team
 channels. At the top I see several live and upcoming sections for the NBA, college football and so on. I wonder if a live and upcoming MFL section will pop up tomorrow when we have NFL games.
 
Note that across the top you’ll see what you last played, followed by connect to device, play and settings. Below that you’ll see the buttons for you, music, talk and podcasts, sports
 and so on. If you don’t see this row of buttons then you may need to tap on the go back button at the  top of the page several times to get back to this page.
 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius app update improvements and observations


 
Hi Wayne,

I downloaded the update today and I am still confused. I am having a great difficulty getting to the NFL play by play area. I keep getting the last station played player open without playing and I cannot get rid of it, even if I close the app and restart it.

On 12/22/2023 5:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:


Greetings. For the Sirius/XM app users on list, there was an update today which has some accessibility enhancements. After installing the update, I found headings showed up in different places within the app, such as on the Discover tab
 when navigating among sections of the screen. I also found headings on screens for channels I would like to listen to. Granted, I haven’t explored all parts of the app, and it will take some experimenting but this was a welcome surprise. Especially when so
 many people, including me, were upset with the recent major update which changed a lot of things and brought many unlabeled buttons. Sirius is my main source for NFL games, and I like their weekly countdown shows on the 80’s and 90’s channels. I wish they
 gave us more of a traditional means of organizing favorites with the edit/done buttons and being able to reorder favorites with rodor actions. Oh well. Hopefully the app will continue to improve. There are a lot of things I really like about the main Sirius/XM
 app which one does not get from the more simplified StarPlayerX app. 

 


Happy Holidays,


Wayne 


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The 

for free iptv app.

2023-12-25 Thread Alban Hoxha
hi all.
can you suggest app for listen or whatch free iptv?

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