Re: Question about Disney Plus and Hulu ad supported versions

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Wayne, 
You are not able to skip the ads that appear on Hulu or Disney Plus. They 
appear like commercials would on a normal TV. While they are fewer than those 
you might see on traditional TV, they are a bit annoying even still. I’m 
fortunate that I can afford the ad free versions bundled together currently, 
but might change if the prices go up.
HTH,
Aleeha

> On Aug 10, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Greetings. I just heard this story on YouTube and went to the report
> on a website. Apparently, Disney Plus, Hulu, and ESPN will be raising
> prices in the fall. This particular page is mostly about the US side,
> but there is also information here regarding pricing for the rest of
> the world. My question: for those who use Disney Plus and/or Hulu on
> the ad supported teer, do you find that there are too many ads? Are
> you able to skip the ad after a certain point, like on YouTube? Is the
> process of skipping ads accessible with VoiceOver? The following link
> has more details, including a table which lists all of the changes in
> price:
> https://whatsondisneyplus.com/disney-hulu-prices-to-rise-in-the-fall/
> In short, it looks like starting September 6, with ads will be $7.99
> for either Disney Plus or Hulu, without ads is about $14 for Disney
> Plus and I assume the same goes for Hulu, or there is a combined
> offering with Disney Plus and Hulu for $10 with ads or $20 without.
> Given how well the ad accessibility works, I may be switching, since
> I'm not wild about paying $20 for no ads, even if I get a combo.
> 
> Warmly,
> Wayne
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RE: Apple Watch Question

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Hi there,It is the same as performing a magic tap on the phone. Perform a two finger double tap.    Sent from Mail for Windows      From: kriegle...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:08 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Apple Watch Question Hi All,I was taking my heart rate with the ECG app. I was asked to perform a Magic tap to activate live audio. How does one perform a magic tap on the watch? Thanks.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001d01d9250e%2417f878f0%2447e96ad0%24%40gmail.com. 



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Re: how do I write a $sign in UEB?

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Joshua, 
You can write a dollar sign by typing dot 4 then s. 
hth, 
Aleeha 
ent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  How do I write a $sign in UEB?  I was going to send a text
> message with my braille keyboard the Hable One, but I do not know how
> to write a $sign.  Thanks for any help.
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Re: iPhone XR and deleting gmail

[Aleeha Dudley]

PRESS THE EDIT BUTTON, SELECT ALL THE ONES YOU WISH TO DELETE BY DOUBLE TAPPING 
THEM, THEN PRESS DELETE.
ALEEHA


> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:54 PM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, is there a way to delete all of them at one time?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Aleeha 
> Dudley
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 04:23 PM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Re: iPhone XR and deleting gmail
>  
> Hi, 
> By default, Gmail will archive, rather than delete emails. To solve this, do 
> the following.
> Open the iPhone’s settings, and double tap on mail. Double tap on accounts, 
> and find your Gmail account. Double tap that, then find advanced and double 
> tap it. In that settings group you’ll see a setting which says, move deleted 
> messages to. Select trash as opposed to all mail, and you’ll have a delete 
> instead of archive option. When you’re in mail, after you’ve fixed the 
> option, you can either flick up on a message to delete it if you’re in the 
> message list, or you can open an email and find the toolbar near the bottom 
> of the screen. Delete will be in there.
> Hope that helps!
> Aleeha Dudley 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:51 PM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. > <mailto:fiore...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi: in my gmail account I have AOL mail, I want to get rid of it and can't 
>> figure out how to do it. 
>> Thanks. 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> jerry
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 07:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: please do not update to the latest messenger
>>  
>> Maybe understandable, but not acceptable. Beta testing is supposed to weed 
>> out most of the major bugs.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger
>>  
>> Hi, Everyone,
>>  
>> When a new update comes out, regardless of what app is being updated, I 
>> never update until, perhaps, a few weeks later to make sure it is okay to do 
>> so.  There are always glitches in new updates, which is understandable.
>>  
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>  
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:20 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>> All blind and visually impaired users of voiceover should learn not to 
>>> auto-update their apps. For the most used applications you'd better always 
>>> wait some months to update. I do always update my apps because I use 2 
>>> devices one to test.
>>> Davy 
>>> 
>>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>>> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Donna Casteen
>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 20 augustus 2021 0:19
>>> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Onderwerp: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
>>>> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since 
>>>> updating & didn't even notice the problem.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they 
>>>> will fix it next go round of updates.
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>  
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Because if you do so all your messages wil be stated as unread even 
>>>>> if they have already been read.
>>>>> Davy
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Re: iPhone XR and deleting gmail

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
By default, Gmail will archive, rather than delete emails. To solve this, do 
the following.
Open the iPhone’s settings, and double tap on mail. Double tap on accounts, and 
find your Gmail account. Double tap that, then find advanced and double tap it. 
In that settings group you’ll see a setting which says, move deleted messages 
to. Select trash as opposed to all mail, and you’ll have a delete instead of 
archive option. When you’re in mail, after you’ve fixed the option, you can 
either flick up on a message to delete it if you’re in the message list, or you 
can open an email and find the toolbar near the bottom of the screen. Delete 
will be in there.
Hope that helps!
Aleeha Dudley 

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:51 PM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi: in my gmail account I have AOL mail, I want to get rid of it and can't 
> figure out how to do it. 
> Thanks. 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> jerry
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 07:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: please do not update to the latest messenger
>  
> Maybe understandable, but not acceptable. Beta testing is supposed to weed 
> out most of the major bugs.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger
>  
> Hi, Everyone,
>  
> When a new update comes out, regardless of what app is being updated, I never 
> update until, perhaps, a few weeks later to make sure it is okay to do so.  
> There are always glitches in new updates, which is understandable.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>  
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:20 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>> All blind and visually impaired users of voiceover should learn not to 
>> auto-update their apps. For the most used applications you'd better always 
>> wait some months to update. I do always update my apps because I use 2 
>> devices one to test.
>> Davy 
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Donna Casteen
>> Verzonden: vrijdag 20 augustus 2021 0:19
>> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Onderwerp: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>  
>>> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
>>> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating 
>>> & didn't even notice the problem.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they 
>>> will fix it next go round of updates.
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>  
>>>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Because if you do so all your messages wil be stated as unread even 
>>>> if they have already been read.
>>>> Davy
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Re: Accessible App for a Good Robot Vacuum Machine

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Tha app for the Shark robot seems to be pretty good, although mine’s not set up 
yet. I just bought it on prime Day.
Hope that helps, 
Aleeha 

> On Jun 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Danny Leung  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> I am planning to purchase a wireless Robot vacuum machine. If you own one, 
> may I know your pinion and recommendation? You can email me privately if 
> needed.
> 
> I am most interest to know about the accessibility of the app; the model that 
> is worth the value. And everything’s else.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your input.
> 
> 
> Grateful for you!
> Danny
>>> 
> 
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Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Tom, 
I am having trouble as well. I can tell you that this trouble has been the same 
since betas started, and nothing has seemed to change. I’m really frustrated 
about it, and have reported it several times.
Aleeha 

> On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m 
> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it 
> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes 
> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into 
> detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out 
> there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? 
> Tom
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Re: Question about Power Beats Pro wireless headphones

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Robin, 
I received some for my birthday and have had no problems with comfort or 
connectivity. The former will depend on your ears, but I like mine a lot.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I was wondering if anyone on the list had any experience with them and how 
> people liked using them in terms of comfort while
> wearing and connectivity. Reviews of them mentioned problems with remaining 
> connected I was wondering if anyone on this list who had used them had 
> encountered
> similar, before contemplating purchasing them for myself. Thank you for all 
> insights shared.
> Take good care.
> Robin
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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Aleeha Dudley]

It can capture a little more accurately than the watch. It’s not meant to be in 
depth cardio, I can certainly get sweaty while using it, but it’s not meant for 
that. It’s more meant to keep you active throughout the day. 
Aleeha 

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Yeah this is tough, LOL. With the sale, they’re $200 difference.
> So when you say you can sync it, does it give you any data that an Apple 
> Watch wouldn’t already pick up? Obviously my watch is going to record it as 
> activity. But my sister thought it might be more strength training than 
> aerobic. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
> Trainer
>  
> I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
> I’m a geek and love things that connect together.
> Aleeha 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
>> support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would 
>> you be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always 
>> subjective, but I’m really struggling with this. 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
>> Trainer
>>  
>> Hi, 
>> I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the 
>> world. I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t 
>> great.
>> Aleeha Dudley 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis >> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
>>> elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
>>> data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive 
>>> one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I 
>>> can’t tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 
>>> If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
>>> dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
>>> the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just 
>>> tracking my own data reasonably accurately.
>>> Thanks for any thoguhts.
>>>  
>>> Deb
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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Aleeha Dudley]

I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
I’m a geek and love things that connect together.
Aleeha 

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
> support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would 
> you be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always 
> subjective, but I’m really struggling with this. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
> Trainer
>  
> Hi, 
> I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the 
> world. I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t 
> great.
> Aleeha Dudley 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
>> elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
>> data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive 
>> one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I 
>> can’t tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 
>> If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
>> dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
>> the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just 
>> tracking my own data reasonably accurately.
>> Thanks for any thoguhts.
>>  
>> Deb
>>  
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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the world. 
I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.
Aleeha Dudley 

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
> elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
> data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive 
> one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I 
> can’t tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 
> If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
> dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
> the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just 
> tracking my own data reasonably accurately.
> Thanks for any thoguhts.
>  
> Deb
>  
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Re: Siri and emoji

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Not unless you want to use the most basic ones, like “smiley”.
Aleeha 

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Hi list:
> 
> Can you ask Siri to add an emoji to a text message?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Holly
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

[Aleeha Dudley]

All, 
This article proves it’s useless to speculate and much more helpful to wait on 
answers. It appears that iTunes for Windows will be staying around. It baffles 
me how much the blind community as a whole panics when any kind of change is 
proposed. Anyway, here’s the article.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/answers-to-some-of-your-itunes-questions-old-libraries-windows-and-more/

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 10:03 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I enjoy being able to make my own ringtones, and I hope I am still
> able to. It wouldn't surprise me if apple broke this on windows. After
> all mac is where they want people but we will see. I have a macbook
> but I do most things in windows.
> 
> On 6/3/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> Oh come on. Stop.
>> This is just wild and I mean "wild" speculation.
>> I mean, Smart TVs are starting to get Apple TV apps built into them, but
>> sure... Apple's going to at the same time cut off an entire market of
>> Windows users just cuzz...
>> There's already an iTunes app for the Windows store. They'll probably
>> announce something later in the summer for Windows. Be it Continued Windows
>> desktop support, new Windows store apps, but I seriously, seriously doubt
>> they're going to just say ... bye Felicia to Windows period.
>> Either way, it's all just speculation. Let's just wait and see on what they
>> actually do.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?
>> 
>> My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows.
>> Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some
>> point, I figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more
>> sales of the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have
>> iPhones and have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for
>> phones that will work with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend
>> Sieghard and I disagreed on this point a while ago, and so far he's been
>> right, but I'm still thinking time will prove me right eventually!
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>> 
>>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually
 been replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as
 music, podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to
 hate, and ever since Apple has offered the ability to download
 content via WIFI folks just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC
 but for years the only thing i have used it for was to make backups
 of my phone, and I will miss having that ability, even though I guess you
 can use iCloud for that purpose.
 
 Andy
 
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

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Folks, 
Apple is not going to kill of a program without providing an equal replacement. 
Here is what we know has been done: Apple has split what was iTunes for Mac, 
and only Mac right now, into Music, Podcasts, and TV. From what I understand, 
iTunes for Windows received an update today for its users to support the new 
betas, and it can still be downloaded from 
https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes 

Even on the Mac, radio is not at all gone. It is still in the music app. 
Aleeha 

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Tim Leet  wrote:
> 
> Yes, my wife heard the same thing I really hope that’s not the case because 
> we use it on the computer to back up or iPhone and especially voice dream 
> reader. We have a big library and that’s the best way to back it up. Not sure 
> what we will do if it goes away.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 3, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Judy Holloway  > wrote:
> 
>> I think it's on the computer. I hope not, though, because I use the internet 
>> radio tuner portion of iTunes to listen to the radio on the computer all the 
>> time.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Judy
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Re: Instant Pot app

[Aleeha Dudley]

I have done most of my selection using the hardware buttons on the device. 
However, the cooking mode buttons are labeled in the app. 
Aleeha 

> On May 13, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> Are the buttons labeled, and can you select the pressure level, sautee
> low or high, warming time, and cooking time using the app and
> VoiceOver? Thanks so much for any information you can share. I
> currently use, and enjoy using, the Bluetooth model, and I am hopeful
> that the WiFi model will become as accessible as the Bluetooth one
> using the app.
> Thanks.
> Penny
> 
> On 5/13/19, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
>> Is it possible to give some instructions on how to connect the Instant Pot
>> Wifi. I will be purchasing one in the next two weeks. Thanks!
>> 
>> Sharonda
>> Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Aleeha Dudley 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just bought an Instant Pot WifI and find that I can use the app fairly
>>> easily. I don’t know what it was like before, but I’m hearing from friends
>>> that it is much better than it used to be.
>>> Aleeha
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good Afternoon,
>>>> 
>>>> Has there been any improvement to the wifi Instant pot app as far as
>>>> accessibility?
>>>> 
>>>> Vicki
>>>> 
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Re: Instant Pot app

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I did a podcast on the initial setup of my unit. Head to iaccessibility.net to 
find it and check it out. 
Aleeha 

> On May 13, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to give some instructions on how to connect the Instant Pot 
> Wifi. I will be purchasing one in the next two weeks. Thanks! 
> 
> Sharonda
> Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 
> 
> On May 13, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Aleeha Dudley  <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> I just bought an Instant Pot WifI and find that I can use the app fairly 
>> easily. I don’t know what it was like before, but I’m hearing from friends 
>> that it is much better than it used to be.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
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>>> Good Afternoon,
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>>> Has there been any improvement to the wifi Instant pot app as far as 
>>> accessibility?
>>>  
>>> Vicki
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Re: Instant Pot app

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I just bought an Instant Pot WifI and find that I can use the app fairly 
easily. I don’t know what it was like before, but I’m hearing from friends that 
it is much better than it used to be.
Aleeha 

> On May 12, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
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> Good Afternoon,
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> Has there been any improvement to the wifi Instant pot app as far as 
> accessibility?
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> Vicki
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Re: Beta program

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I would strongly recommend installing the latest non-beta iOS onto the phone. 
You can do this by putting the phone in recovery mode, connecting it to a 
computer, and allowing it to download the latest software. This will reset the 
phone to defaults at the same time. Just be sure to sign out of Find my iPhone 
and your Apple ID first.
HTH,
Aleeha 

> On May 8, 2019, at 5:58 PM, Marie N.  wrote:
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> I have a 6S on the IPhone beta program. I am considering selling the phone so 
> I need to know if I need to sign out of the program before re-setting the 
> phone?
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Re: Questtion about mail on the Mac

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello, 
If you don’t interact with the messages table, you can use right arrow to 
expand the thread, left arrow to collapse it, and up and down arrows to review 
the messages.
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2019, at 9:07 AM, GARY WILLIAMS  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> We are starting to learn the Mac, and we can not figure out how to expand a 
> thread in mail.  We are avid users of both the iPhone and iPad but we can not 
> figure out this tread thing on the Mac.  If anyone has the answer we would 
> sure appreciate the help.
> Thanks,
> Gary and Nancy Williams
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Re: How do I add a contact to Favorites, please?

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Hi,

You should be able to find an add to favorites button without pressing edit. 
Just double tap on the contact and it is there. 
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> How do I add a contact to Favorites?  I got into a contact,
> pressed Edit, found Favorites, but couldn't find Done or any
> indications of completing task. Thanks for any help. 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

The difference is that your hand doesn’t stay in your pocket when you get your 
keys out. 
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> then never get your keys, or wallet out.
> 
> -Original Message----- From: Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:47 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> 
> Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the 
> wrong place.
> Aleeha
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're 
>> going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool.
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM
>> To: viPhone 
>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, 
>> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is 
>> much more secure than TouchID ever was.
>> Aleeha
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch
>>> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
>>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is
>>> in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out.
>>> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for
>>> example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now
>>> you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish!
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jed Barton" 
>>> To: "viphone" 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: face id opinions wanted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Jed
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

A sighted person wouldn’t know what you are doing. That’s the point. It looks 
like you are doing something strange in your pocket. The repetitive flicking 
motion that you use with VO makes the cloth move in such a way that it looks 
very weird and, to some, inappropriate, especially if it’s your pants pocket or 
a long coat. 


> On Dec 17, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> How would a sighted person know, what you are doing with your phone, if you 
> have your hand in your bag or pocket?
> 
> and frankly, who gives a crap, what someone else thinks!
> 
> You are unlocking your bloody phone, and not doing a strange dance, in the 
> middle of the street.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:53 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> 
> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, 
> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is 
> much more secure than TouchID ever was.
> Aleeha
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and
>> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in
>> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is
>> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as
>> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that
>> with this pesky face id rubbish!
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" 
>> To: "viphone" 
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
>> Subject: face id opinions wanted
>> 
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jed
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

Even the jacket pocket looks odd. It could look downright dangerous in the 
wrong place. 
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Indeed. In your jacket pocket is fine, but if in your pants pocket, you're 
> going to look like a pervert who is playing a hardcore game of pocket pool. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Aleeha 
> Dudley
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 11:54 AM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
> Importance: High
> 
> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, 
> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is 
> much more secure than TouchID ever was.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch 
>> id and replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is 
>> in something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. 
>> this is particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for 
>> example, as it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now 
>> you can't do that with this pesky face id rubbish!
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jed Barton" 
>> To: "viphone" 
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
>> Subject: face id opinions wanted
>> 
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest, 
>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on 
>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not 
>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i 
>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17 
>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the 
>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would 
>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess 
>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times 
>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another 
>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my 
>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my 
>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing 
>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else 
>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jed
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

Responding to both these messages in one, at the risk of being off topic, you 
would care about looking strange if a future boss saw it. Just saying, and now 
I’m done.
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Well, to be fair, some blind people don’t really care if it looks normal. 
> It’s an advantage that we have, that we could use a phone without needing to 
> have it even remotely pointing towards us. But we must adapt. I can almost 
> guarantee that Android manufacturers will adopt something like FaceID, albeit 
> without the true security that Apple gives, well, not counting attention-mode 
> being off for us… Even then they couldn’t take the phone without you at least 
> hearing the unlock sound, at most hearing VoiceOver speaking. Sure, it’s a 
> little painful now, but it will get better, as it did with TouchID.
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, 
>> you look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is 
>> much more secure than TouchID ever was.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and 
>>> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
>>> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in 
>>> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is 
>>> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as 
>>> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do 
>>> that 
>>> with this pesky face id rubbish!
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Jed Barton" 
>>> To: "viphone" 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: face id opinions wanted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jed
>>> 
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I can’t see at all and set it up just fine, and I know that many others have as 
well. You don’t have to be really accurate. Just hold the phone vertically a 
little ways away from you and it should be fine. Make sure you have attention 
mode turned off, especially if your eyes move a lot or don’t open.
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> that's the whole point.  I've just really struggled with it.  Like i
> said, when you can't see the screen, i'm pointing my phone, in what
> seems like the right direction.  Literally, if you're a quarter inch
> off, you're done.  I shouldn't have to sit there for 30 seconds to try
> and unlock my phone.  That's 30 seconds when i could be productive.
> 
> On 12/17/18, goshawk on horseback  wrote:
>> exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much
>> 
>> easier!
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "lenron brown" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted
>> 
>> 
>> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
>> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
>> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id.
>> 
>> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty
>>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my
>>> students
>>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you
>>> set
>>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were
>>> going
>>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This
>>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of
>>> you,
>>> six or so inches away from your face.
>>> Aleeha
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> 
>>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>>>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>>>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>>>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>>>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>>>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jed
>>>> 
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

Sorry to say this, but if you are using your phone inside a bag or pocket, you 
look really strange to sighted people. It’s not normal. Also, FaceID is much 
more secure than TouchID ever was.
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:43 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> same here, who ever had the stupid idea of doing away with the touch id and 
> replacing it with this stupid face id should be shot!
> another thing, is that you could use the touch id, whilst the phone is in 
> something like a bumbag, with out having to actually take it out. this is 
> particularly handy if using the phone whilst on horse back for example, as 
> it greatly reduces the risk of dropping the phone. but now you can't do that 
> with this pesky face id rubbish!
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jed Barton" 
> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:36 PM
> Subject: face id opinions wanted
> 
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jed
> 
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

It actually takes less time to set up than Touch ID did. 
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:42 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
> head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
> do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id.
> 
> On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty
>> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students
>> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set
>> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going
>> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This
>> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you,
>> six or so inches away from your face.
>> Aleeha
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jed
>>> 
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Re: face id opinions wanted

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty seconds 
to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my students is to 
think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you set up 
FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were going from 
six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This usually works. 
Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you, six or so inches 
away from your face.
Aleeha 

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jed
> 
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Re: Wireless Charging

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
The Otterbox cases will work fine with wireless charging. Both the commuter and 
defender cases will work. For wireless charging, I would recommend Anker’s 
wireless charger. 
Aleeha 

> On Nov 25, 2018, at 5:20 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Good Evening Everyone,
>  
> As I mentioned yesterday I picked up a new iPhone XR on Black Friday. Having 
> said that I have yet to purchase a case for it. My previous 3 iPhones had 
> Otterbox defender cases. My question is with wireless charging do I need to 
> be concerned with which case to purchase? If so can I get some 
> recommendations for cases? Also recommendations for a wireless charging 
> solution that people are happy with? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and 
> help.
>  
> Joe
> 
>  
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Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This will 
initiate a second scan.
Aleeha 

> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with a 
> finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice Over. 
> No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
> unfortunately.
> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ronald
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Re: help help help got a new iPad can’t unlock it

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
The iPad will not have a vibration motor in it, but you should hear audible 
feedback from VoiceOver when you swipe up. That will get you to the passcode 
field.
HTH,
Aleeha Dudley

> On Nov 15, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Slide up with one finger from the bottom of the screen until you hear or feel 
> a vibration which I think is how you activate the home button when there 
> isn't one. Then you should get the option to enter your passcode or whatever.
> If that doesn't work and you do not get an answer quickly, call Apple 
> Accessibility 877-204-3930
> Or google it.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Lea W Langley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I did not set Face ID up in my iPad when I first got it. I opted to set it 
>> up later in settings I press the lock button thinking that it would let me 
>> enter my passcode when I hit the unlock button but it just is locked and it 
>> won’t unlock can someone please tell me what to do? Thank you very much. God 
>> bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: anouncinga deleted app

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
There’s not a way to do this. Once you confirm that you’d like to delete the 
app, it will just go away. You could check the screen to make sure it’s gone, 
but, other than that, there’s not much you can do. 
Aleeha 

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 1:41 PM, anthony borg  wrote:
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> Hi folks 
> Could you please explain to me how to set my iphone that after I delete an
> app, it will anounce that the app is deleted? 
> With thanks in advance 
> Anthony 
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Re: Question about charging the phone

[Aleeha Dudley]

I am guessing it has to do with the bigger battery in the newer phone, which 
would need more power to charge the device. A computer can’t provide a fast 
charge to a device like that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 3:14 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> John, 
> I'm still surprised why it might take that long for a full charge though.  
> Maybe someone who has an iPhone 10r will chime in here, or I will find out 
> for myself when I get my phone in 2 or 3 days.Just pretty curious about 
> this though.  
> Janet  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Panarese
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about charging the phone
> 
>   I think the person you were replying to originally mentioned they connect 
> their phone to their PC. If you are plugging it into the wall, if it’s like 
> the XS, it shouldn’t take more than a couple of hours to recharge to full.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John, 
>> I never use my computer to charge my phone.  I am pretty curious to see just 
>> how long this 10R will really take to charge.  I will be quite surprised if 
>> it really takes that long for a full charge, when my iPhone 6, I  guaranteer 
>> a full charge take only 25 or 30 minutes, and the iPhone 6 is old now!  Wow, 
>> it looks like I just might miss my old phone.  LOL!  
>> Janet 
>> , I 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Panarese
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 2:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about charging the phone
>> 
>>  Connecting your phone to a computer is always going to be a much slower 
>> charge. I would plug it into the wall instead. It should only take an hour 
>> or two to fully recharge from a  low to completely dead state back up to 100 
>> percent.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 3:52 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rena and All, 
>>> Rena, this is a good question in which I would like to know as well.  I 
>>> just bought a new iPhone 10R, and I asked the rep from my phone carrier why 
>>> would it take about three hours for a full charge as this is what he told 
>>> me.  Although, my phone carrier ordered the phone for me in the color that 
>>> I wanted, so I don’t have the phone as of yet to actually check that.  I do 
>>> currently have an iPhone 6, and I can get a full charge with this phone in 
>>> 25 or 30 minutes, but not with the new 10R? I don’t understand this one 
>>> though.  
>>> Janet 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: 'evergreenwoods' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 2:41 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Question about charging the phone
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I always charge my iPhone plugging it to the pc .I notice that usually it 
>>> takes only a couple of hours, but sometime after several hours it’s still 
>>> charging. Does anyone have a similar experience, or know the reason for 
>>> needing so many hours?
>>> Rena
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Re: iPhone 8, iPhone xr battery chargers Question Please.

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
The charging block and cable come with both phones. 
HTH, 
Aleeha 

> On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:16 PM, janet gross  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
> Well, I'm finally going to take the plunge, and buy  a new iPhone, as I 
> definitely need one.  I'm not sure yet if I will buy an iPhone 8 or the new 
> xr yet though.  My question is does a battery charger come with the phone 8 
> or the xr phone?
> Thank you all in advance.
> Janet
> 
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Re: Managing notifications on iPhone and Apple Watch

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Wayne, Not sure if you got a response to this, but if you head into 
notification settings for your watch in the watch app, each app should be a 
toggle switch. You can turn off things that you want to appear only on your 
phone.
HTH,
Aleeha 

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Greetings. I have an iPhone 8 Plus running iOS 12.0.1 and a Series 2
> Apple Watch running Watch OS 5.0.1. I heard in iOS 12 that one could
> control notifications and whether they get notified on the phone,
> watch, or both. Can someone tell me how this is done? I went into
> notifications on the Watch app and on the phone, and all I find are to
> turn notifications on/off and where I want them to appear, like on the
> lock screen, in history, or both. I would like to send some to my
> watch but have others appear on the phone. Now, nearly all of them go
> to the watch, and only a few show up on the phone. Is there a way I
> can separate these things, or have some be phone exclusive and others
> go to the watch?
> 
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Re: Finding a Specific Ringtone

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Hi, 
You would double tap on the search tab, then type in some keywords, then find 
the ringtones heading and double tap on see all. That should get you to the 
appropriate search results.
Aleeha 

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
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> So yesterday I went exploring in the iTunes store and found a whole bunch of 
> ringtones. I don’t always care for the electronic renderings of classical 
> pieces—I’d rather have a real orchestra, but that’s just me. My question is 
> this: suppose a person wanted, say, the Jeopardy! “think” music, or the theme 
> from the 60’s Batman TV series, or the first four notes from Dragnet, or the 
> University of Iowa football fight song … How would that person, naming no 
> names, go about finding such things? 
>  
> Susie
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Re: Accessibility of Latest Apple Watch

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
All features of the latest Apple Watch, like the others before it, are 
completely accessible. Are there specific features you are curious about?
Aleeha 

> On Oct 1, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Dulce;
> 
> I don’t think Apple has changed it’s accessibility parameters at least that’s 
> what the previous character suggests
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
>>  wrote:
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>> How accessible is the latest Apple watch, and which accessible features are 
>> you using successfully?
>> 
>> Dulce
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>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power button. It 
is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you are looking for, 
you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case, if you have seen 
that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is definitely tactile enough to 
find.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple Watch. 
> I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic feedback. 
> I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted reviewer said 
> it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it still worked 
> because you can just touch in the general area and it works, or words to that 
> effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has the watch, and how 
> you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, but they didn’t have 
> any on display.
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Re: iPhone XS and Max and audio stereo recording

[Aleeha Dudley]

All, 
I spoke to an Apple representative last night. As of right now, stereo 
recording is only available for videos. It may well be in some sort of beta, 
even if it is not said to be such, and Apple may open it up to more apps later 
on.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan says there is no stereo recording with Voice Memos. Looks like it’s 
> video only.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
>> 
>> Same question
>> Has anyone tried to test it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2018, at 12:37 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I suppose there are some of you all out there who got shiny new iPhones 
>>> today. We had some discussion a while back about the stereo recording 
>>> feature, with some folks being so very sure that it would work with audio. 
>>> Jonathan Mosen did a podcast of the set up of his new iPhone XS Max. He was 
>>> not able to have stereo recording working for audio in the app that he 
>>> apparently can use to make a Podcasts on his phone. It did work doing a 
>>> video with the Camera app. But nothing doing for audio only. So I am 
>>> curious if anybody else has had luck with a different app.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: whats ap notification

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Linda,
1. Go into our WhatsApp app. Don’t go into your main settings app. 
2. Double tap on Settings in the bottom right corner, it should be the fifth 
tab.
3. Double tap on notifications. You should see an option called sounds. You 
will see should options in there.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 5:15 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just tried that and only seem to be able to change the notification from 
> tempory to persistent but not actually change the alert tone.
>  
> Linda
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Aleeha Dudley <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>
>> To: viPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: whats ap notification
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> You must go into settings for WhatsApp, which are in the app itself on a tab 
>> at the bottom of the screen, then select notifications.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 5:04 PM, 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> is there a way to change the alert sound of whats ap?  I'm sure there must 
>>> be but i've looked in settings, sounds but can find tones for everything 
>>> exceptwhats ap.
>>>  
>>> Thanks
>>> Linda
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: whats ap notification

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
You must go into settings for WhatsApp, which are in the app itself on a tab at 
the bottom of the screen, then select notifications.
Aleeha 

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> Hi,
>  
> is there a way to change the alert sound of whats ap?  I'm sure there must be 
> but i've looked in settings, sounds but can find tones for everything 
> exceptwhats ap.
>  
> Thanks
> Linda
>  
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Re: Advice for the experts

[Aleeha Dudley]

There is an adapter that allows for charging and using headphones at the same 
time. 
Aleeha 

> On Sep 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> It's no fun not being able to charge and use headphones at the same
> time. I have not found a pair of bluetooth headphones I love yet.
> 
> On 9/15/18, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> It's true Apple won't be bringing back the head phone jack, but that's
>> no reason to just put up with the inconveniences of not having it for
>> another year. Also, depending on how you use your phone, there could be
>> more inconveniences to giving up the head phone jack then just losing
>> the ability to charge your phone while using the head phone jack.
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/15/2018 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, but it’s not like the 3.5mm headphone jack is coming back so
>>> whether he gets a phone without one now or in a year won’t really make
>>> much of a difference.
>>> 
>>> Good point, thought, Julian, about asking what the upgrade cost is to
>>> an iPhone 8, if it is $100 or even $200 (Mich is in Canada) then
>>> selling his iPhone 6 will probably cover most of that cost and at
>>> least then he has the ability to use wireless charging should he ever
>>> want to use a headphone while the phone is charging. I know there are
>>> the splitters from Belkin, but they cost as much as a couple of
>>> wireless charging mats from Amazon.
>>> 
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>>> Of *Richard Turner
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Advice for the experts
>>> 
>>> Good point, I keep forgetting about Apple’s decision to remove the 3.5
>>> plug.
>>> 
>>> One of the reasons, besides liking the size, why I will stick with my
>>> SE as long as possible.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>>> Of *Julian
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:13 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Advice for the experts
>>> 
>>> Hi Mitch,
>>> 
>>> I think the most important question you need to ask yourself is, can
>>> you live without the 3.5 mm headphone jack. You will definitely lose
>>> that by going to the seven. If you’re happy with the way things are,
>>> maybe you should just sit it out for this year. If you feel like you
>>> want to upgrade, while this is not a bad offer, I would personally ask
>>> how much more they would charge to go to the eighth instead of the seven.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 12:07 PM, mich verrier >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi all. I recently was contacted by my phone company to upgrade my
>>>phone. I am using a eye phone 6 and they said that I could get a
>>>eye phone 7 for 0 dollers. Since I have payed off my phone I am
>>>wondering what others thoughts are? Since my phone is working fine
>>>right now for what I use it for witch is mainly texting, e mail,
>>>kik, fb messenger etc. From Mich.
>>> 
>>>Sent from Mail
>>> 
>>> 
>>>for Windows 10
>>> 
>>>*From: *Julian 
>>>*Sent: *September 15, 2018 11:55 AM
>>>*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>*Subject: *Re: Advice for the experts
>>> 
>>>Hi Tom,
>>> 
>>>This is all very good advice. I also advise my clients similarly.
>>>Unless the new models have something that you absolutely must
>>>have, I would stick with your iPhone 7 and wait till next year to
>>>see what Apple offers up. I am currently using an iPhone 7 running
>>>the iOS 12 beta and it’s working just fine.
>>> 
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner
>>>mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
>>>wrote:
>>> 
 
>>> 
 Correction, I obviously meant the iPhone 8 has the A11 chip, not
>>>I11.  I thought I'd point that out before someone else does.
>>> 
 Richard
>>> 
 
>>> 
 -Original Message-
>>> 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On
>>>Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> 
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:46 AM
>>> 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
 Subject: RE: Advice for the experts
>>> 
 
>>> 
 In my opinion, no one on Earth knows if a particular model will
>>>be continued to be built, other than maybe Apple Executives.
>>> 
 
>>> 
 If you are eligible for an upgrade now, I suspect you will be
>>>eligible next year as well if you wait, right?
>>> 
 
>>> 
 I believe the iPhone 7 has the A10 chip, the 8 h

Re: Advice for the experts

[Aleeha Dudley]

Richard, 
The only reason that the X did not sell for longer than a year is because it is 
so similar to the XS that Apple would have lost profits if they had reduced the 
price on the X. The general person would not buy the new thing if the older one 
looks and feels almost exactly the same.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, no one on Earth knows if a particular model will be continued 
> to be built, other than maybe Apple Executives.
>   
> If you are eligible for an upgrade now, I suspect you will be eligible next 
> year as well if you wait, right?
> 
> I believe the iPhone 7 has the A10 chip, the 8 has the I11 chip and the newer 
> phones announced this week have the A12 chip.
> Each new chip generation is a bit faster than the previous one, also often 
> has more RAM in those phones, etc.
> The 8 plus is going to have a noticeable increase in battery life and 
> probably speed in downloading larger files.
> If you are happy with the 7, and it is giving you good battery life, there is 
> no real need to change.
> 
> I am probably in the minority, but I would use the phone until you find it is 
> not performing well enough for your needs.
> You noticed that the iPhone X lasted exactly 1 year and now has been 
> replaced.  So, if it were me, I'd wait and see what happens.
> 
> "Definition of an expert: an ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure." -- Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Cramer
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:10 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Advice for the experts
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> I've been reading about the new phones coming out and would like to ask 
> something from the experts on the list who have good and necessary knowledge.
> I've had an iPhone 7 for a couple of years and I got notified that I'm 
> eligible to upgrade.
> First, what's going to happen with the iPhone 7?  Is it still a good phone 
> and will Apple continue to make it?
> Second, should I upgrade from a 7 to an 8?  I know the xr is also the least 
> expensive phone, but I know it won't have the touch ID or home buttons any 
> more.
> Also, how much faster or better is the 8 from the 7?  I'd like to know the 
> differences so that I know whether it's worth it to upgrade or stay with the 
> 7.
> Any thoughts?
> Tom
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Re: Advice for the experts

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Tom, 
Apple is still selling the 7 for $450. What I am telling my clients in training 
is this: Apple is not going to make a phone with a home button anymore. It’s 
just not in their development plans. The X line of phones, including the XR, 
XS, and XS Max, are very accessible with very little learning curve. You do not 
need a home button to use the phone accessibly, and Face ID is also quite 
accessible. Right now, if you are considering an upgrade from a 7 to an 8, I 
would not do it. You're not going to see that much of a difference, and iOS 12 
will make the performance of your phone much better. Updating to the newest 
line of phones, including the XR, would be a good move strategically, because 
you are then not putting yourself one year behind in terms of hardware and 
software. 
These are just my thoughts.
Aleeha Dudley 

> On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> I've been reading about the new phones coming out and would like to
> ask something from the experts on the list who have good and necessary
> knowledge.
> I've had an iPhone 7 for a couple of years and I got notified that I'm
> eligible to upgrade.
> First, what's going to happen with the iPhone 7?  Is it still a good
> phone and will Apple continue to make it?
> Second, should I upgrade from a 7 to an 8?  I know the xr is also the
> least expensive phone, but I know it won't have the touch ID or home
> buttons any more.
> Also, how much faster or better is the 8 from the 7?  I'd like to know
> the differences so that I know whether it's worth it to upgrade or
> stay with the 7.
> Any thoughts?
> Tom
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Re: Question about replacing the battery on an iPhone

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
No it is not, unless, of course, they just give you a new phone, which some 
reps have been known to do.
Aleeha 

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> Hi, does anyone know whether or not the data on an iPhone is erased,  when 
> replacing the battery? Of course I know the best practice is to back up the 
> device, but I’m just curious.
> 
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Re: Greyhound app

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Hi, 
That app is almost completely inaccessible. You can use safari successfully. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
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> Good morning,
> Does anyone know if the Greyhound app works well with VoiceOver? I’ve been 
> having issues with it.  If anyone’s used it successfully, please let me know 
> or share some tips.
> Thanks.
> Jim
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Re: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET

[Aleeha Dudley]

I saw online that the repair for the HomePod cable is $29. 
Aleeha 

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning
> Commentary: When you buy Apple's new musically smart speaker, you're told to
> be very careful with it or it'll really cost you.
> By Chris Matyszczyk, February 11, 2018 9:30 AM PST
> 
> It really is quite pretty.
> Andrew Hoyle/CNET 
> It was such a sunny day in Northern California on Friday.
> Little did I know that it would be clouded by portents of doom. 
> After all, I was wandering along to my local Apple store in Marin County to
> pick up an Apple HomePod on launch day.
> I'd never bought a first-generation Apple product before, preferring the
> company to iron out kinks before I give it my louchely earned lucre. 
> For utterly irrational reasons, I felt good about the HomePod. 
> Yes, it's expensive. But I couldn't bear the idea of a Google Home or Amazon
> Echo -- aka the salt cellar and the garbage can -- in the house. Aesthetics,
> you understand. (I can feel you pitying me.)
> I presented the QR code kindly texted me by Apple that morning and the store
> employee, a rather positive sort, insisted I'd be so very, very excited
> about getting my new toy.
> "We've been playing with it here all morning and the sound fills the whole
> store. It's incredible," he said.
> "Incredible sounds good," I thought to myself. "But is that better than,
> say, magical and revolutionary?" It's hard to tell with Apple's constant
> embrace of superlatives.
> We chatted pleasantly for a little while, as we waited for the HomePod to
> emerge from the back.
> But when it did arrive, the atmosphere changed.
> "Now I have to warn you," the store employee began. Oh. 
> "The cable is permanently attached to the HomePod. If you rip it, it'll cost
> you almost as much as the HomePod itself to repair," he said. (Naturally,
> someone has already tried to rip it off.)
> I didn't have time to react, as he continued: "A pet or a vacuum cleaner
> catches it, and it'll be really expensive." 
> I insisted I had neither of these things.
> He barely listened and added: "Unless you've got AppleCare."
> Aha. 
> The math is painful. The HomePod costs $350. Repairing it costs $279, as
> revealed by Apple support -- and my Apple store salesman -- on Friday. 
> As for AppleCare+ for HomePod, which extends your coverage to two years,
> that's $39. 
> The Apple store employee admitted that he was duty-bound to lay out his
> fears for my gadget-caring inadequacies. 
> It is, though, rare for a product to cost almost as much to repair as to
> buy. Repair costs for Apple products are going up, though. The cost of
> repairing an iPhone X screen? Why, $279.
> In the case of the HomePod, unless you have AppleCare+, why wouldn't you
> just buy a new one, rather than wait an unspecified period for your own to
> be repaired?
> Apple didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. It's likely,
> however, that the high cost of repair is linked to the fact that the product
> is one whole piece, with seemingly no place of entry to outsiders at all.
> The mesh of the device, though, will surely attract some scratching-obsessed
> cats. Which, in my experience, is most cats. It'll be fascinating to see
> whether there will be a sudden surge of cat-related snafus.
> I walked out with my head hanging a little lower, worried about a neighbor's
> cat wandering into our house. A few hours later, it actually happened, as a
> lithe ginger cat sauntered in to look around. (The front door's open when
> it's warm.)
> I want to end on an uplift, however. Let's talk about the HomePod's cable.
> It's thick and study-looking. It doesn't look as if it will fray like, well,
> every other Apple cable I've owned. It doesn't look easy to yank off, even
> if you're an aggressive vacuum cleaner or a rabid cat.
> Why doesn't the person who designed this cable design all of Apple's others?
> I brought my HomePod home. It took but a minute to set up. It's actually
> quite pretty and the sound is clear and strong. Although Siri has already
> begun to protest that she's can't play my music any louder than she is
> already. 
> "Try harder," I keep pleading.
> Now, though, it's me against the neighborhood cats. I wonder if I could
> charge their owners $279 if their cat scratches my HomePod. 
> 
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Re: Using an apple keyboard

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Many of the commands for bluetooth keyboard with iOS are the same as on the 
Mac. Details of these commands can be found on Apple’s accessibility website.
Aleeha 

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Mark Brett  wrote:
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> Hi all, does anybody have an idiots guide as to how to use a Bluetooth 
> keyboard with voice-over and where the keys are and what they do a podcast 
> would be great if not some manuals
> 
> 
> Mark Brett
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Re: Wunderlist

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This app has actually become one of my favorites. The key is to not flick 
around the screen, but rather to explore by touch. If you flick, VO will 
announce items that are not present on the screen. If you mostly explore by 
touch, the experience is great. 

Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

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> What do you all think of the Wunderlist app for task management? 'i find the 
> screen difficult to navigate.
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Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
There is an unboxing of the X on iaccessibility.net 
<http://iaccessibility.net/> in the archives. 
Jonathan Mosen also did some demonstrations. 
Hope that helps,
Aleeha 

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Turabh  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Thanks a lot for your inputs. I believe Ill go in for a iPhone X. Aleeha 
> could u suggest some tutorials, podcasts etc. to help better understand and 
> use the X.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 18-Jan-2018, at 11:44 PM, Anthony Vece  <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> It’s also available on the iPhone 8+.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Aleeha Dudley >> <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> Wireless charging is available on both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Fanus >> <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Kelly
>>>> Thannks for the explanation. Just one other question: I heard that the 
>>>> iPhone 8 can be charged by placing it on some or other charge pad, more or 
>>>> less like the charging method of the apple watch. Is this true for iPhone 
>>>> 8 or is it only for the iPhone X?
>>>> Regards
>>>> Fanus
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: Kelly Pierce <>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:38 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>>>> Subject: Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone  10
>>>>  
>>>> For the blind, the big differences are that the x has face ID and no
>>>> home button on the screen. Both have the same processor so performance
>>>> will be the same in each phone. The reason technology journalists say
>>>> that the 8 is a disappointment is because the 8 was an incremental
>>>> upgrade with no new technology. The x has a new camera system and a
>>>> bigger screen with greater image quality. Face recognition is way more
>>>> accurate than in Samsung phones. I don’t believe the X is worth the
>>>> price for blind users though.
>>>> 
>>>> Kelly
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/18/18, Aleeha Dudley >>> <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > Personally I would go for the iPhone X if you can afford to do so. This
>>>> > interface is what Apple is moving toward, and is fully accessible. I like
>>>> > the look of the phone a lot, and think it is very snappy.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Jan 18, 2018, at 2:11 AM, Turabh >>> >> <mailto:turab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >> Hope this message  finds you well.
>>>> >> Want to go in for a new  phone. Hence want  to know how much an edge an 
>>>> >> X
>>>> >> would  have over an  8 specifically  from a visually  impaired users
>>>> >> perspective: considering that here  in India there  is a huge price
>>>> >> difference . Also, is the  new  interface and other  features of X fully
>>>> >> compatible with voiceover? Finally, 8 users  how  is your experience, 
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> some tech  magazine  in india have enlisted the 8 among the
>>>> >> disappointments  of 2017?
>>>> >> Best
>>>> >> Turab
>>>> >>
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Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 

Wireless charging is available on both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Fanus  wrote:
> 
> Hello Kelly
> Thannks for the explanation. Just one other question: I heard that the iPhone 
> 8 can be charged by placing it on some or other charge pad, more or less like 
> the charging method of the apple watch. Is this true for iPhone 8 or is it 
> only for the iPhone X?
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10
>  
> For the blind, the big differences are that the x has face ID and no
> home button on the screen. Both have the same processor so performance
> will be the same in each phone. The reason technology journalists say
> that the 8 is a disappointment is because the 8 was an incremental
> upgrade with no new technology. The x has a new camera system and a
> bigger screen with greater image quality. Face recognition is way more
> accurate than in Samsung phones. I don’t believe the X is worth the
> price for blind users though.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/18/18, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> > Personally I would go for the iPhone X if you can afford to do so. This
> > interface is what Apple is moving toward, and is fully accessible. I like
> > the look of the phone a lot, and think it is very snappy.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 18, 2018, at 2:11 AM, Turabh  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> Hope this message  finds you well.
> >> Want to go in for a new  phone. Hence want  to know how much an edge an X
> >> would  have over an  8 specifically  from a visually  impaired users
> >> perspective: considering that here  in India there  is a huge price
> >> difference . Also, is the  new  interface and other  features of X fully
> >> compatible with voiceover? Finally, 8 users  how  is your experience, for
> >> some tech  magazine  in india have enlisted the 8 among the
> >> disappointments  of 2017?
> >> Best
> >> Turab
> >>
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Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

[Aleeha Dudley]

Just curious, Kelly, why do you feel that? It is quite accessible, and the 
gestures are quite easy to learn within five minutes.
Aleeha 

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> For the blind, the big differences are that the x has face ID and no
> home button on the screen. Both have the same processor so performance
> will be the same in each phone. The reason technology journalists say
> that the 8 is a disappointment is because the 8 was an incremental
> upgrade with no new technology. The x has a new camera system and a
> bigger screen with greater image quality. Face recognition is way more
> accurate than in Samsung phones. I don’t believe the X is worth the
> price for blind users though.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/18/18, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
>> Personally I would go for the iPhone X if you can afford to do so. This
>> interface is what Apple is moving toward, and is fully accessible. I like
>> the look of the phone a lot, and think it is very snappy.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 2:11 AM, Turabh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Hope this message  finds you well.
>>> Want to go in for a new  phone. Hence want  to know how much an edge an X
>>> would  have over an  8 specifically  from a visually  impaired users
>>> perspective: considering that here  in India there  is a huge price
>>> difference . Also, is the  new  interface and other  features of X fully
>>> compatible with voiceover? Finally, 8 users  how  is your experience, for
>>> some tech  magazine  in india have enlisted the 8 among the
>>> disappointments  of 2017?
>>> Best
>>> Turab
>>> 
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Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

[Aleeha Dudley]

Personally I would go for the iPhone X if you can afford to do so. This 
interface is what Apple is moving toward, and is fully accessible. I like the 
look of the phone a lot, and think it is very snappy. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 2:11 AM, Turabh  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Hope this message  finds you well.
> Want to go in for a new  phone. Hence want  to know how much an edge an X 
> would  have over an  8 specifically  from a visually  impaired users 
> perspective: considering that here  in India there  is a huge price 
> difference . Also, is the  new  interface and other  features of X fully 
> compatible with voiceover? Finally, 8 users  how  is your experience, for 
> some tech  magazine  in india have enlisted the 8 among the disappointments  
> of 2017?
> Best
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Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

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Hi, 
Just search for the weather channel and you should find it if it is available.
Aleeha 

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jen .  wrote:
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> Hi,Hi,  
> Thanks for your help.  
> What is the weather channel app called.  Maybe I’ll try that one. 
> Jen  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Aleeha 
> Dudley 
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:45:41 PM
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> Subject: Re: More iPad mini 4 questions
>  
> Hi, 
> I’ll take a stab at some of your questions below. 
> So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads 
> don’t come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. 
>> Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
>> since typing weather gave me a bunch of results. 
>> If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
>> with voiceover and can be used in Canada. 
> You cannot get the Apple weather app for the iPad, but I am not sure of which 
> apps would work in Canada. I like the Weather Channel app, or I have some 
> apps downloaded from local TV stations that aren’t too bad.
>> Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. 
> If you’re running iOS 11, you’ll need to look in the control center for the 
> flashlight button. 
>> Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
>> everything but it says it’s not charging. 
>> Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
>> connected to the same USB port. 
> Do not be concerned: it is likely because the iPad needs more power to 
> charge. You’ll need to use a wall outlet.
>> Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you 
>> get rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device 
>> when you first get it. 
> I’m not sure what you mean by this.
> 
>> Thanks. 
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Re: More iPad mini 4 questions

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Hi, 
I’ll take a stab at some of your questions below. 
So I discovered when adding all my apps to my iPad mini 4 that the iPads don’t 
come with the weather app like th iPhone and iPod touch. 
> Can you download the native weather app.  If so, what would you search for 
> since typing weather gave me a bunch of results. 
> If not can any recommend a good but free weather app if possible that works 
> with voiceover and can be used in Canada. 
You cannot get the Apple weather app for the iPad, but I am not sure of which 
apps would work in Canada. I like the Weather Channel app, or I have some apps 
downloaded from local TV stations that aren’t too bad.
> Next I’m assuming there’s no flashlight either since I’m not noticing one. 
If you’re running iOS 11, you’ll need to look in the control center for the 
flashlight button. 
> Next when I plug my iPad mini 4 in to my windows pc the device connects and 
> everything but it says it’s not charging. 
> Should I be concerned as my iPhone and iPod touch charge just fine when 
> connected to the same USB port. 
Do not be concerned: it is likely because the iPad needs more power to charge. 
You’ll need to use a wall outlet.
> Finally I’ve done this before but don’t remember what I did but how do you 
> get rid of the yahoo, apple, etc. Search engines that show up on your device 
> when you first get it. 
I’m not sure what you mean by this.

> Thanks. 
> Jen 
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Re: Hang outs

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Yes, the Hangouts app for iOS is fairly accessible. Just search for Google 
Hangouts on the app store and give it a try. It is free.
HTH,
Aleeha 

> On Jan 12, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Terri Stimmel  
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have been asked a couple of times now, if I can chat, using Hang Outs.
> 
> 
> So I was wondering, with an iPhone is this at all possible?
> 
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Re: Help With A Bluetooth Keyboard

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Go to settings, general, accessibility, voiceover, typing feedback. Make sure 
the setting for hardware keyboards is set to characters.
Aleeha 

> On Jan 10, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Bonnie Blose  wrote:
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> I am ready to start using a blue tooth keyboard I have had for a few months. 
> It is charged up but ddoes not echo back when I press keys on the phone  when 
> I press the keys. It makes a sound but does not echo back from the phone with 
> the phone saying what I have pressed. I hope I am wording this in a way you 
> will understand. 
>  
> Since the keyboard lights up and is connected, I am told I must change a 
> setting that will echo back what I am doing on the phone and it is a phone 
> setting I must change.  How do I change that setting and where would I find 
> it? 
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> Thanks for your help.
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> Bonnie Blose,
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Re: IOS 11.2.2 and wi-fi failing to connect

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Hi, 
I would try resetting network settings in Settings, General, Reset.
HTH,
Aleeha 

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> I installed the new update this afternoon.  Since doing so my Iphone 6 will 
> not connect to our wi-fi network.  I have double and triple checked the 
> password and have tried to enter it several times.  The phone says it is 
> connecting but never succeeds.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone else seen this issue?
> 
> 
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Re: 2 iPad mini 4 questions

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Hi, 
It should if the case connects magnetically to the iPad. YOu’ll hear a screen 
lock sound if it does.
Aleeha 

> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  so since there is no need for a smart cover setting now well the 
> iPad just turn off or go to sleep when you shut your case and wake up when 
> it’s open.
> Jen
> 
> On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Aleeha Dudley  <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi, 
>> There is not a setting for a smart cover anymore: it will just operate 
>> without the need to turn it on. 
>> I think you might need to search for the apps you don’t see in your 
>> purchases, then double tap on iPad only and select iPhone only from the list 
>> that pops up. 
>> HTH,
>> Aleeha 
>> 
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>>> I received an iPad mini 4 for Christmas and am using the latest version of 
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>>> I have 2 questions.  First of all I had an old iPad mini previously and 
>>> there was a setting that was something about if you had a magnetic case you 
>>> could unlock the iPad and lock it when the case was open or closed.  I’ve 
>>> searched everywhere and I’m not finding this setting. 
>>> Next question I have an iPhone and iPod touch as well and want all my apps 
>>> on my new iPad.  I know in the app store there used to be a place where you 
>>> could select iPhone apps Ipad apps or both and it would show everything you 
>>> have on your devices but I am not seeing all my apps now. 
>>> I’ve tried all and not on this iPad but only some of the apps are showing 
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>>> I am looking for this setting as well. 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Jen 
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Re: 2 iPad mini 4 questions

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
There is not a setting for a smart cover anymore: it will just operate without 
the need to turn it on. 
I think you might need to search for the apps you don’t see in your purchases, 
then double tap on iPad only and select iPhone only from the list that pops up. 
HTH,
Aleeha 

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> 
> Hi,  
> I received an iPad mini 4 for Christmas and am using the latest version of 
> iOS and I’m a voiceover user. 
> I have 2 questions.  First of all I had an old iPad mini previously and there 
> was a setting that was something about if you had a magnetic case you could 
> unlock the iPad and lock it when the case was open or closed.  I’ve searched 
> everywhere and I’m not finding this setting. 
> Next question I have an iPhone and iPod touch as well and want all my apps on 
> my new iPad.  I know in the app store there used to be a place where you 
> could select iPhone apps Ipad apps or both and it would show everything you 
> have on your devices but I am not seeing all my apps now. 
> I’ve tried all and not on this iPad but only some of the apps are showing up. 
> I am looking for this setting as well. 
> Thanks. 
> Jen 
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Re: Mac book Air and dual boot

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Yes, the MacBook Air can be dual booted, however you might want at least a 256 
GB hard drive so that you can get a decent sized partition. I’ve successfully 
run Windows with 64 GB of space, but you will want more than that if you want 
to do any sort of serious work. 
I would strongly encourage you to spend time with the Mac alone before dual 
booting so that you do not only use the Windows side of the computer, defeating 
the purpose of getting the Mac.
I hope this helps.
Aleeha 

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> I am considering getting a Mac book Air and have a couple of questions. Can 
> this laptop be configured to dual boot into both the Mac OS and Windows? If 
> so,  how much space would be required and is boot Camp the easiest to use?
> I am a total novice when it comes to the Mac OS.
> Thanks
> Marie
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Re: Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks fraud lawsuit - CNET

[Aleeha Dudley]

The Samsung comment was merely a joke…. As I alluded to in the following 
sentence. I understand that it was a different situation, I was merely saying 
that without regulations on devices, as batteries get older, similar situations 
with overheating batteries could happen. 

> On Dec 22, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> I don’t' know about the merits of these particular law suits, but you're 
> making a straw man argument. The Samsung problem had nothing to do with this. 
> Something entirely different.
> What people may argue and I may be inclined to agree with is by slowing 
> devices down, the manufacturer is not so subtly nudging folks into upgrading 
> their device when a less expensive option was available the entire time. I 
> mean pay $60 to $100 for a battery swap or $600 and up for a whole new phone?
> Sure, I guess some folks may go out and buy a whole new computer when their 
> PC begins to get all slow and buggy, but how many of us take the time to 
> first go through less expensive options first? Replace this or upgrade 
> components that or simply start from scratch by reformatting the machine all 
> together. 
> Besides, who's to say that Apple knows best on how you should use your 
> device? This will probably freak out libertarians to no end. 
> I will say, I just recently replaced the battery on my business 5S and while 
> it's still a four year old phone now, I have noticed an improvement in 
> overall snappiness with VoiceOver. I use it for the most basic of tasks. 
> Mainly making and receiving calls with maybe a few extra apps like a timer 
> for working out or cooking or Pandora, but all in all, improved battery 
> aside, VO and iOS performance isn't as sluggish. I have no need to replace or 
> upgrade my 5S and with my new battery, I can probably get some more good use 
> out of it now. I’m going to ride this bad boy until the wheels fall off.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 11:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks fraud lawsuit - CNET
> 
> I’m sorry, but this sounds like a pile of crap to me. I would rather a 
> company slow my device if the battery is unsafe than allow it to run at the 
> same speed it would as new and then…. Samsung Note 7, anyone? All joking 
> aside, I would rather have a safe, slower functioning product than one that 
> shuts off at random times.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2017, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks lawsuit alleging fraud The plaintiffs 
>> contend that an Apple software tweak that slows down older iPhones was 
>> a ploy to spur upgrades to pricier models.
>> December 22, 2017 8:25 AM PST
>> 
>> Apple disclosed Wednesday that it updated the software of older 
>> iPhones to slow them down when the battery can't keep up with the phone's 
>> computer.
>> Sarah Tew/CNET
>> Apple's controversial iPhone slowdown is drawing legal fire. 
>> A pending lawsuit against Apple says a software tweak that slows some 
>> older iPhones to counteract problems found in aging batteries is a 
>> fraud designed to spur upgrades to the latest model.
>> Apple didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment.  
>> After years of complaints from consumers that their iPhones seem 
>> slower once a new model is released, Apple on Wednesday disclosed it 
>> was indeed slowing the performance of some older iPhones under 
>> particular circumstances. When batteries age, become very cold or 
>> operate at low power, their currents can spike when the phone's 
>> computer tries to hit higher speeds. Rather than having a phone shut 
>> down automatically to protect itself, Apple said that last year it 
>> tweaked its iOS software for some older iPhones so they slow down instead.
>> The lawsuit, filed Thursday in the Northern District of Illinois, 
>> Eastern division, represents five people who claim the company 
>> purposefully updated the phones' operating system to dampen its 
>> performance as a way of "fraudulently forcing iPhone owners to 
>> purchase the latest model from Apple," according to a release from 
>> attorney James Vlahakis of Lombard, Illinois-based Atlas Consumer Law.
>> The plaintiffs allege this fraud applies to updates to the iPhone 5, 
>> iPhone
>> 6 and certain iPhone 7 models.  
>> Apple's disclosure this week didn't include the iPhone 5. The company 
>> said the software update applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S 

Re: Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks fraud lawsuit - CNET

[Aleeha Dudley]

I’m sorry, but this sounds like a pile of crap to me. I would rather a company 
slow my device if the battery is unsafe than allow it to run at the same speed 
it would as new and then…. Samsung Note 7, anyone? All joking aside, I would 
rather have a safe, slower functioning product than one that shuts off at 
random times.
Aleeha 

> On Dec 22, 2017, at 1:41 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks lawsuit alleging fraud
> The plaintiffs contend that an Apple software tweak that slows down older
> iPhones was a ploy to spur upgrades to pricier models.
> December 22, 2017 8:25 AM PST
> 
> Apple disclosed Wednesday that it updated the software of older iPhones to
> slow them down when the battery can't keep up with the phone's computer. 
> Sarah Tew/CNET 
> Apple's controversial iPhone slowdown is drawing legal fire. 
> A pending lawsuit against Apple says a software tweak that slows some older
> iPhones to counteract problems found in aging batteries is a fraud designed
> to spur upgrades to the latest model.  
> Apple didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment.  
> After years of complaints from consumers that their iPhones seem slower once
> a new model is released, Apple on Wednesday disclosed it was indeed slowing
> the performance of some older iPhones under particular circumstances. When
> batteries age, become very cold or operate at low power, their currents can
> spike when the phone's computer tries to hit higher speeds. Rather than
> having a phone shut down automatically to protect itself, Apple said that
> last year it tweaked its iOS software for some older iPhones so they slow
> down instead.  
> The lawsuit, filed Thursday in the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern
> division, represents five people who claim the company purposefully updated
> the phones' operating system to dampen its performance as a way of
> "fraudulently forcing iPhone owners to purchase the latest model from
> Apple," according to a release from attorney James Vlahakis of Lombard,
> Illinois-based Atlas Consumer Law. 
> The plaintiffs allege this fraud applies to updates to the iPhone 5, iPhone
> 6 and certain iPhone 7 models.  
> Apple's disclosure this week didn't include the iPhone 5. The company said
> the software update applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and
> SE, and earlier this year was extended to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It will
> be applied to other Apple devices in the future, the company said. 
> In the past, Apple has routinely said it doesn't purposely slow phones to
> encourage customers to replace them. Apple said in a statement earlier this
> week that the goal of the battery-related slowing was "to deliver the best
> experience for customers." 
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-slowdown-sparks-fraud-lawsuit/#ftag=C
> AD-09-10aai5b
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Re: Amazon Prime Video voice and audio description

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Assuming you’re talking about Apple TV, there is no way to disable the text to 
speech that Amazon provides. I find it somewhat annoying.
Not sure about your audio description question, as I don’t use Prime video all 
that much.
Aleeha 

> On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Is there anyway to turn off Prime Video’s voice?  She talks over the 
> beginning of the movie.  Also anyone having trouble with audio description?  
> Sometimes I have to turn it on for each episode.  I can’t read those settings 
> with voice over or the Prime Video voice.
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Re: portable heart rate monitor to assist in my exercise program.

[Aleeha Dudley]

You could try a Fitbit or an Apple Watch. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2017, at 10:48 AM, David Whitehead  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all;
> I was asked by one of my client's if I knew of a portable heart rate monitor 
> to assist in my exercise program, and which could be accessed with the iPhone.
> in advance, thanks for the help.
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Re: Important, problems setting up Apple Watch with iPhone 8

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello,
You're probably right: you're going to have to update the software. However, 
try holding both the round button and the side button in at the same time for 
about 10 secondffs. That may solve your problem. 
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Chris and all. Chris, what you discribed was happends with my Apple 
> Wotch2. I know that you have to be on the same version or the latest version 
> that came out for bowth. It could be problems if it's nilot be done. My 
> iPhone doesn't wanted continue until  i was updated to Wotch OS4. That's 
> tereble i know, but in 4.1 it's useble. I suggest to you to update your Apple 
> Wotch to 4.1 before you setting up from sscrach
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-3 בדצמ׳ 2017, בשעה 17:45, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> 
>> Problems getting Apple watch pared and setup with my new iphone 8.
>> Before calling Apple Accessibility, I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas 
>> that could help me.
>> 
>> Have an original Apple Watch that came out in September 2015 running watch 
>> OS 3.23 that I had pared to my iphone 6 running ios 11.1.2.  I did not 
>> upgrade my Apple watch to watch OS 4 because everybody said that it slowed 
>> there watch down so much that it was almost unusable.  But I had no problems 
>> running the latest version of ios 11 with my watch running twatch OS 3.23.
>> I upgraded to an iphone 8, and that is where the problem started.
>> 
>> I went through the paring process and I was told that my watch was pared 
>> with my iPhone 8 without a problem.  Now it was time to setup my watch 
>> again.  I could restore from a prior backup or set up as a new watch.  I 
>> have tried both ways with the same results.
>> After about 20 to 30 minutes, maybe longer, not sure, I get a pop up message 
>> that says, process has timed out because of activities taking place.
>> I have tried this 3 to 4 times, all with the same results.
>> 
>> My watch automatically goes back to the beginning of the paring and setup 
>> screen, where you choose the default language.
>> I do not know if my watch is getting hung up installing watch OS 4 or what, 
>> but right now, my watch is totally unusable since I can not get it setup, 
>> and again, I have tried setting it up from a prior backup and also as a new 
>> device with the same device.
>> Is there a reset for the watch that is equivalent to holding down the home 
>> button and the power button for 10 seconds?
>> 
>> Does anyone have any ideas of anything that I could try to get my watch up 
>> and running again?
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Chris
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Re: photographs

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Do you have a service like Dropbox or OneDrive? If so, you could transfer them 
through that service to your phone, then save them to your camera roll using 
the app from whichever service you have. I can’t give much more info without 
knowing whether you have such a service.
Aleeha 

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> I need some help from you lovely people who are a lot more knowledgeable 
> about these things than I am.  someone has kindly sent me some pictures of an 
> event I went to yesterday.  unfortunately they are on my pc and I would like 
> to put them on facebook which is on my iPhone.  any help would be 
> appreciated.  step by step instruction would be great.  thanks in advance,  
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Re: Question regarding my iPhone, and it only working over WIFI

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Hi, 
You can’t associate your iPhone’s old number with iMessage or FaceTime anymore 
since it no longer receives cell service. This is why your messages show up as 
from your email address. 
Aleeha 

> On Nov 12, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have some questions regarding my iPhone.
> 
> 
> Sense my cell service has been blocked, and now I can only use my WIFI 
> to do some things, I've discovered something interesting.
> 
> If I use my Android phone and text someone with an iPhone, the person 
> won't get the text. Same thing happens, if they text my Android. I'll 
> never see it.
> 
> 
> However, if I Face Time someone, or send someone an iMessage, it doesn't 
> show up as a number, but as my iCloud address.
> 
> How do I fix it that if someone with an iPhone just wants to call my 
> actual number, they are able to do so?
> 
> 
> Any help with this will be appreciated.
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: how to remove the do not disturb while driving

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
This is a bug that should be fixe with upcoming versions.I don’t have any 
issues, but I’m on a beta.
Aleeha 

> On Nov 11, 2017, at 9:45 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  I have gone to settings and then to do not disturb and selected 
> activate manually.  After I’ve been in a car I still sometimes see the 
> notification that do not disturb while driving was activated.  I really don’t 
> want/need that feature to be activated since I’m not the driver.  Any other 
> setting I should change.  Thanks as always for all your help and advice.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garcon 
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Re: orientation locking

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hey Andy, 
You should be able to find this in Control center by doing a three finger swipe 
up from the status bar of your device. You should hear something like lock 
orientation switch button.
HTH,
Aleeha

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> On previous iphones I was able to lock the screen in portrait mode. i can't 
> figure out how to do that under IOS 11.03 on my iPhone 8. I have examined 
> every control in Settings and can't find a way to do that. Does anyone know 
> how to do that, if indeed it still can be done?
>  
> Andy
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Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

[Aleeha Dudley]

Why are we attacking Apple here? They are trying to make a good thing. and, as 
you are a beta tester, you will have noticed that the app switcher has been 
fixed and does behave like iOS 10. 
Honestly, it feels like folks just don't like change. Do you really think 
sighted people don't deal with similar changes in UI that cause them to retrain 
their brains? If you do, then you're mistaken. Why should everything behave as 
it was? Maybe Apple will introduce something else that I don't like, but that's 
the nature of software. We can't have everything we like. It's our job to be 
able to adapt to change. It's not practical to adapt the rotor in all 
situations to behave like this, but in this case, where you might want to 
delete a bunch of mail at once, it's a blessing and, might I add, much faster 
than tapping edit and selecting, as this bogs down after a while and is buggy 
in itself, because if you delete some emails but not all, focus does not return 
to the top of the list like it should after the deletion, in fact, it will be 
set at exactly the number of messages you deleted down the list. That's a 
bigger issue for me than this. I say, let's encourage Apple to fix these bugs 
and be happy with a change that is going to help in the long run. 
I'm a trainer, too, and I teach my clients to deal with change. Not every app 
works the same, and we must learn how to deal with that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Aleeha, think of it this way: when iOS 11 was first released everybody 
> considered it a bug and it adds nothing to productivity. If you really have a 
> bunch of emails to delete tap the edit button and you can mark messages to 
> your heart content, in any case, doing a quick flick up before a double tap 
> is so fast that you can’t even measure it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:45 PM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent 
> again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug
>  
> I agree with you, Mary, that should be fixed. But bashing the feature 
> altogether is not OK.
> Let’s fix the bug, not complain until it returns to the old way. I, for one, 
> would like this thing to work. I’ve actually found, in the latest beta, that 
> it’s getting better.
> Aleeha 
> 
> 
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> It could theoretically be a great change for productivity if it were 100% 
> consistent. It isn't. It's a disaster. It makes you keep checking and 
> rechecking which makes the use of the mail app quite less efficient than it 
> used to be. The word default ought  to mean something.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Guys, 
> Personally, I think this is a great addition to productivity. Yes, it’s a 
> change that we must get used to, but I think it would make the power users of 
> mail very happy. Now, they do need to solve some consistency issues, but I 
> personally like it. It behaves as the app switcher did in iOS 10. Also, 
> regarding the comment about restoring a deleted item, shake your phone, and 
> you will, magically, have an “undo Trash” dialog box. If Apple isn’t allowed 
> to change its OS, why should they pay attention to us at all? When we whine 
> and complain about a change that could significantly improve productivity, 
> why should Apple make its operating system more accessible and better for us?
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>  
> Hello List,
>  
> There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented in 
> the Mail app whenit comes to using the rotor to delete messages. In the past 
> and ever since Apple has introduced rotor actions, a marvellous invention, 
> the behaviour of the rotor has been quite consistent.
> Usually you check your Inbox, some messages you don’t even open before you 
> want to delete them, others you might read and want to delete afterwards, no 
> matter what, you would normally flick up once when ona message in the Inbox, 
> this would put focus on the “Delete” option and now you simply double tap and 
> the message is deleted.
> This is the same in the Messages app, it works if you want to delete a 
> Favourite in your Phone app, a recent call and you can use it in many other 
> places.
> After the message or whatever you are deleting has been deleted, for years 
> the normal behaviour was that “Activate” has focus again. This of course 
> makes sense because if you flick through the available options, “Acti

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi Carol, 
Currently, in iOS 11, the behavior of the actions rotor has changed for Mail. 
It used to be that, when you flicked up or down to an action in Mail and then 
activated it, for example deleting an email, the rotor would return to the 
default option of activate, when focused on the next message. Now, the intended 
behavior is that the rotor should stay on the first option, delete in the 
example above, so that productivity can be enhanced and a user could batch 
delete a bunch of emails by just double tapping continuously. Unfortunately, 
the implementation of this is somewhat spotty, and the rotor does not stay on 
the right option all the time, causing the user to need to check every time 
which setting the rotor is on, causing a huge issue with productivity. 
I hope this helps explain things. Some people don’t like this behavior because 
it doesn’t necessarily occur in a bunch of other places in the OS.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:07 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m sorry, I have probably missed a message or two somewhere…
> I am not sure exactly what you are meaning here. What is wrong with it?
> I will certainly report it if I can find it to be true, but I have no idea 
> quite what’s happening! :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 29 Sep 2017, at 10:19 pm, Aleeha Dudley  <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Guys, 
> Personally, I think this is a great addition to productivity. Yes, it’s a 
> change that we must get used to, but I think it would make the power users of 
> mail very happy. Now, they do need to solve some consistency issues, but I 
> personally like it. It behaves as the app switcher did in iOS 10. Also, 
> regarding the comment about restoring a deleted item, shake your phone, and 
> you will, magically, have an “undo Trash” dialog box. If Apple isn’t allowed 
> to change its OS, why should they pay attention to us at all? When we whine 
> and complain about a change that could significantly improve productivity, 
> why should Apple make its operating system more accessible and better for us?
> 
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello List,
>>  
>> There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented in 
>> the Mail app whenit comes to using the rotor to delete messages. In the past 
>> and ever since Apple has introduced rotor actions, a marvellous invention, 
>> the behaviour of the rotor has been quite consistent.
>> Usually you check your Inbox, some messages you don’t even open before you 
>> want to delete them, others you might read and want to delete afterwards, no 
>> matter what, you would normally flick up once when ona message in the Inbox, 
>> this would put focus on the “Delete” option and now you simply double tap 
>> and the message is deleted.
>> This is the same in the Messages app, it works if you want to delete a 
>> Favourite in your Phone app, a recent call and you can use it in many other 
>> places.
>> After the message or whatever you are deleting has been deleted, for years 
>> the normal behaviour was that “Activate” has focus again. This of course 
>> makes sense because if you flick through the available options, “Activate” 
>> also tells you that it is the default option so of course you would expect 
>> that whatever you do focus returns to it so after you delete a message and 
>> if you now want to read the next message all you have to do is double tap 
>> and it opens up.
>> Now in IOS 11 Apple has decided that in the Mail app only the rotor should 
>> behave differently. Mind you if you go to your Inbox and flick through the 
>> available rotor options, when you get back to activate it still says 
>> “Activate, default”
>> However, if you flick up to delete and double tap to delete a message and 
>> then double tap again expecting you are going to open the next message in 
>> focus you are sadly mistaken. Apparently the term “default” doesn’t apply 
>> any more and all you just did is delete the next message. Oops, it was an 
>> important message you wanted to keep or reply to? Well, no problem, just 
>> back out of your Inbox, find your delete items, find the message and move it 
>> back to the Inbox, then back out of deleted items and go back to your Inbox. 
>> Why, thank you Apple, you just made my day, I didn’t count how many taps and 
>> flicks, scrub gestures and swipes this takes, but it’s of course ridiculous.
>> We all know how engrained keystrokes and by now taps and swipes become when 
>> you get used to something, it makes no sense to make “delet

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

[Aleeha Dudley]

I agree with you, Mary, that should be fixed. But bashing the feature 
altogether is not OK.
Let’s fix the bug, not complain until it returns to the old way. I, for one, 
would like this thing to work. I’ve actually found, in the latest beta, that 
it’s getting better.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It could theoretically be a great change for productivity if it were 100% 
> consistent. It isn't. It's a disaster. It makes you keep checking and 
> rechecking which makes the use of the mail app quite less efficient than it 
> used to be. The word default ought  to mean something.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Aleeha Dudley  <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Guys, 
>> Personally, I think this is a great addition to productivity. Yes, it’s a 
>> change that we must get used to, but I think it would make the power users 
>> of mail very happy. Now, they do need to solve some consistency issues, but 
>> I personally like it. It behaves as the app switcher did in iOS 10. Also, 
>> regarding the comment about restoring a deleted item, shake your phone, and 
>> you will, magically, have an “undo Trash” dialog box. If Apple isn’t allowed 
>> to change its OS, why should they pay attention to us at all? When we whine 
>> and complain about a change that could significantly improve productivity, 
>> why should Apple make its operating system more accessible and better for us?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello List,
>>>  
>>> There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented 
>>> in the Mail app whenit comes to using the rotor to delete messages. In the 
>>> past and ever since Apple has introduced rotor actions, a marvellous 
>>> invention, the behaviour of the rotor has been quite consistent.
>>> Usually you check your Inbox, some messages you don’t even open before you 
>>> want to delete them, others you might read and want to delete afterwards, 
>>> no matter what, you would normally flick up once when ona message in the 
>>> Inbox, this would put focus on the “Delete” option and now you simply 
>>> double tap and the message is deleted.
>>> This is the same in the Messages app, it works if you want to delete a 
>>> Favourite in your Phone app, a recent call and you can use it in many other 
>>> places.
>>> After the message or whatever you are deleting has been deleted, for years 
>>> the normal behaviour was that “Activate” has focus again. This of course 
>>> makes sense because if you flick through the available options, “Activate” 
>>> also tells you that it is the default option so of course you would expect 
>>> that whatever you do focus returns to it so after you delete a message and 
>>> if you now want to read the next message all you have to do is double tap 
>>> and it opens up.
>>> Now in IOS 11 Apple has decided that in the Mail app only the rotor should 
>>> behave differently. Mind you if you go to your Inbox and flick through the 
>>> available rotor options, when you get back to activate it still says 
>>> “Activate, default”
>>> However, if you flick up to delete and double tap to delete a message and 
>>> then double tap again expecting you are going to open the next message in 
>>> focus you are sadly mistaken. Apparently the term “default” doesn’t apply 
>>> any more and all you just did is delete the next message. Oops, it was an 
>>> important message you wanted to keep or reply to? Well, no problem, just 
>>> back out of your Inbox, find your delete items, find the message and move 
>>> it back to the Inbox, then back out of deleted items and go back to your 
>>> Inbox. Why, thank you Apple, you just made my day, I didn’t count how many 
>>> taps and flicks, scrub gestures and swipes this takes, but it’s of course 
>>> ridiculous.
>>> We all know how engrained keystrokes and by now taps and swipes become when 
>>> you get used to something, it makes no sense to make “delete” the default 
>>> action especially if it still says “Activate” is the default. I also wonder 
>>> what’s next, what if Apple decides this should also be so in the Messages 
>>> app? If you accidently delete a text message with important information 
>>> like maybe the link to the boarding pass you just sent to your phone after 
>>> checking in to a flight online then you can’t just tap, swipe and sc

Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

[Aleeha Dudley]

Guys, 
Personally, I think this is a great addition to productivity. Yes, it’s a 
change that we must get used to, but I think it would make the power users of 
mail very happy. Now, they do need to solve some consistency issues, but I 
personally like it. It behaves as the app switcher did in iOS 10. Also, 
regarding the comment about restoring a deleted item, shake your phone, and you 
will, magically, have an “undo Trash” dialog box. If Apple isn’t allowed to 
change its OS, why should they pay attention to us at all? When we whine and 
complain about a change that could significantly improve productivity, why 
should Apple make its operating system more accessible and better for us?


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented in 
> the Mail app whenit comes to using the rotor to delete messages. In the past 
> and ever since Apple has introduced rotor actions, a marvellous invention, 
> the behaviour of the rotor has been quite consistent.
> Usually you check your Inbox, some messages you don’t even open before you 
> want to delete them, others you might read and want to delete afterwards, no 
> matter what, you would normally flick up once when ona message in the Inbox, 
> this would put focus on the “Delete” option and now you simply double tap and 
> the message is deleted.
> This is the same in the Messages app, it works if you want to delete a 
> Favourite in your Phone app, a recent call and you can use it in many other 
> places.
> After the message or whatever you are deleting has been deleted, for years 
> the normal behaviour was that “Activate” has focus again. This of course 
> makes sense because if you flick through the available options, “Activate” 
> also tells you that it is the default option so of course you would expect 
> that whatever you do focus returns to it so after you delete a message and if 
> you now want to read the next message all you have to do is double tap and it 
> opens up.
> Now in IOS 11 Apple has decided that in the Mail app only the rotor should 
> behave differently. Mind you if you go to your Inbox and flick through the 
> available rotor options, when you get back to activate it still says 
> “Activate, default”
> However, if you flick up to delete and double tap to delete a message and 
> then double tap again expecting you are going to open the next message in 
> focus you are sadly mistaken. Apparently the term “default” doesn’t apply any 
> more and all you just did is delete the next message. Oops, it was an 
> important message you wanted to keep or reply to? Well, no problem, just back 
> out of your Inbox, find your delete items, find the message and move it back 
> to the Inbox, then back out of deleted items and go back to your Inbox. Why, 
> thank you Apple, you just made my day, I didn’t count how many taps and 
> flicks, scrub gestures and swipes this takes, but it’s of course ridiculous.
> We all know how engrained keystrokes and by now taps and swipes become when 
> you get used to something, it makes no sense to make “delete” the default 
> action especially if it still says “Activate” is the default. I also wonder 
> what’s next, what if Apple decides this should also be so in the Messages 
> app? If you accidently delete a text message with important information like 
> maybe the link to the boarding pass you just sent to your phone after 
> checking in to a flight online then you can’t just tap, swipe and scrub for 
> 30 seconds to get it back, it’s gone for good which is why allowing Apple to 
> get away with this sets I think a dangerous precedent.
> Looking at the issue from that perspective is concerning and I think it is 
> one of these times when everybody and I really mean everybody even if you 
> don’t use the Mail app on the iPhone should send a message 
> toaccessibil...@apple.com  asking that the 
> default action which is “activate” is restored, it may not effect you this 
> time, but maybe next time Apple changes something it will effect you and we 
> need to speak up and let Apple know that we prefer a consistent, polished UI 
> and experience over random and unexplained changes which make no sense to 
> anybody. Come on Apple, Tim Cook and others point out at every keynote how 
> Apple can do things others can’t because you have complete control over both 
> hardware and software, you claim that your devices and software are superior 
> because of the consistency in the UI often even when you go from iOS to Mac 
> OS, TV OS and Watch OS so put your rotor actions where your mouth is and fix 
> this so it is once again consistent.
> I am going to do something I usually don’t do because I respect the owner’s 
> wish not to discuss beta software. However, in this case I will say that 
> after installing the iOS 11.1 Public Beta this behaviour is still present. 
> This would support the 

Re: text messages

[Aleeha Dudley]

Janet, 
The reason your phone was behaving like this is because you are using the rotor 
to delete messages you no longer want. When you do this, it causes the phone to 
present a "null" in the app, which can only be gotten rid of by closing 
messages out of the app switcher and re-opening it. If "null" is displayed, new 
messages that come in will not display properly, or at all. So, as a 
workaround, if you ever need to delete a message, use the edit option in the 
top right corner, select the message or threads you want to delete, and then 
press the delete button in the bottom right corner. 
This bug has been reported to Apple and will hopefully be fixed in the next 
release. 
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I can delete the messages ok it is reading them first that is the  
> problem.  If your message was not aimed at me then I apologise.   Janet
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: text messages
>  
> You should currently not use the rotor delete option to delete text messages 
> as this results int his “mull” thing until you close Messages in the app 
> switcher and then reopen it.
> I am not sure what happened on your phone, but for me the Messages app is as 
> always except for that bug with the deleting. I just tap on Edit in the top 
> right, then double tap the messag or messages I want to delete to select them 
> and tap on Delete at the bottom. I’m sure they’ll fix this bug soon and this 
> is not too difficult a work-around.
> If you have some major issue with Messages you may have to restore the phone 
> which means reinstalling iOS 11. Just out of curiocity, what preparations did 
> you do before updating?
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: text messages
>  
> managed to find them by switching the phone off and on again but there must 
> be a way to read them without turning the phone off all the time.  Janet
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: text messages
>  
> No different as before, if you continue to swipe right you should find it. 
> You could also ask SIRI to read new text messages to you.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: text messages
>  
> please can someone tell me how I read a text mesage that someone has sent to 
> me.  I open up messages and it says one new message but I can’t find it to 
> read it anywhere.  any suggestions would be helpful.  thanks a lot   Janet
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Re: Can I activate Do Not Disturb after a Skype call is initiated to avoid being interrupted during the call?

[Aleeha Dudley]

Absolutely. Swipe up with three fingers on the status bar  and you can get the 
setting from in control center. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi,
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> I’m expecting a Skype call this afternoon during which I do not want to be 
> interrupted. Once the Skype call is established, can I activate Do Not 
> Disturb to keep from the call being interrupted, without risking loss of the 
> established call?
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Re: Receiving calls on two phones

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Hi, 
You’ll need to go to the phone that you want the calls on, go to settings, 
double tap on phone, and turn off “calls from other devices”, which should be 
set to “nearby.” These calls are not coming over cellular to the old phone, 
only over WiFi. 
HTH,
Aleeha 

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Ralph Supernaw  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have my Mom's old IPhone and reset it so I could use it for some things.  I 
> now have it set up on my Apple id.  When I receive a phone call it rings on 
> both phones.  I have two questions:
> 
> 1. Is there a way to prevent phone calls from going to both phones?
> Are the calls to Mom's phone coming through wifi or cellular?  She had a 
> different carrier than I do.
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: iPhone 8 plus question

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The 8plus screen is not split like the iPad is. The 7 and 8 are the same size 
as the 6, with a 4.7 inch screen. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2017, at 12:09 PM, regina alvarado  
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> 
> Since iPhone 8 plus is pretty much the same as 7 Plus, can someone tell me if 
> the screen is split like iPad? How big is the 7? 
> Trying to get a handle on how big the 8 plus is. Thanks. I upgraded mostly 
> for added battery life. 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

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Hi, 

You can change the volume of the watch by two finger double tapping and holding 
until you hear a soft ding, then dragging your fingers up and down to change 
the volume in that direction. The time is generally spoken immediately when you 
press the button on the crown. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
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> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Re: Alexa app on the iPhone

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
You cannot talk to the Alexa app, it is only a method for accessing settings 
and features of the Echo device. You can access your messages and 
notifications, as well as enable and sign into new skills, but you can’t 
actually interact with Alexa through the app.
HTH,
Aleeha 
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> I have a client who just got an Echo Dot.
> It is now setup on his iPhone.
> 
> I do not have one, so wondered what the app provides you when you are not in 
> the same room as the Echo Dot?
> Can you verbally talk to the app and get responses?
> I won't see him for a couple of weeks, so any tips on what the app does for 
> you would be helpful.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Re: Questions regarding the Cash App

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello, 
If you have a Cash account, you can send money to someone. I also believe there 
is a way to set up a URL to be paid by, but I'm not sure how. You can request a 
free Cash Card, which will be mailed to you and can be used like a debit card, 
using the funds in your Cash app. 
HTH, 
Aleeha 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Terri,
> 
> The Cash app by Square, Inc. which has also been called Square Cash I believe 
> does what you're asking. I got a little confused by just what your friend is 
> trying to accomplish because it sounded a bit as if she wanted to use the 
> Cash app like a prepaid credit card.
> 
> You can use the app to electronically move money between app users who've set 
> it up properly. This used to involve keying in your bank's debit card number 
> information in order to tie your bank account to your Cash app. Both my son 
> and I have done this so I can easily transfer money to him via the Cash app 
> without any fees. I think the app may have expanded how to transfer money 
> with it since I set it up over a couple of years ago. You can read its iTunes 
> Apps Store description here:
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cash-app-send-and-receive-money/id711923939?mt=8
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Terri Stimmel
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> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have some questions, regarding the Cash App. I apologize, I don't remember 
> who created it. But I used it once to pay someone.
> 
> 
> What I would like to know is, can people take certain information from 
> this App, and put money in to your cash account?
> 
> Then could you move it to your bank, if desired?
> 
> 
> I am trying to help a friend out. She wants to get a pre-paid card. She 
> wants him to be able to load money on it, online.
> 
> Does such a thing exist?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Storm tracker... anyone know of an accessible app?

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
The only one that I know of that could do even close to what you are looking 
for is Dark Sky. It will tell you when rain is coming, as well as push severe 
weather warnings for the area you have selected. I’m not sure of any app that 
will accessibly let you track where a storm is, but would love to hear about 
one.
Aleeha
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> While I am not in the path of any hurricanes, I have family and friends who 
> are. Can anyone please point me to an accessible app that allows me to track 
> a storm? 
> Thanks.
> Jen
> 
> 
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Re: one foundation

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I am going to miss this app so much with iOS 11. It has served me quite well 
for hours of addictive entertainment. Sigh. I wish the developer would make it 
a 64 bit app.

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:52 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I used to play this game a lot. It is basically the solitaire game golf. I no 
> longer use it since I have the Blindfold Solitaire set of golf games.  The 
> cards are laid out in a grid that is 7 cards across and several rows high. 
> The remaining cards are placed in a pack or deck and one card is turned over. 
> The object is to play cards from the bottom row to build the number sequences 
> up or down. When you can’t play any more then you tap to turn over the next 
> card on the pile and continue. Although the 1 Foundation is basically 
> accessible the main difficulty is that it does not let you know when you get 
> to the end of the bottom row which is all the cards that are eligible to 
> play.  So you have to count across the first 7 cards to the left of the Pack. 
>  In the Blindfold versions There is this basic version of golf and double 
> golf as well as Putt-putt and double Putt-putt. The main difference is that 
> in golf and one foundation you cannot wrap around from Ace to King and in 
> Putt-putt you can.  I play double putt-putt all the time.  Other improvements 
> in the Blindfold version over the one foundation is that you can tap two 
> fingers to review the foundation top card. You can also swipe up to see what 
> card will be revealed when you double tap one of the cards in the bottom 
> playable row that allows you to use more strategy.  I did discover that if 
> you choose vertical navigation from the rotar when playing the 1 Foundation 
> you can swipe up to see what cards will be revealed when you play the card on 
> the bottom row.  But the main drawback is having to count as you go across 
> the bottom row since there is no indication when you move to the second row.
> I found the golf package in the Blindfold Solitaire to be well worth the cost 
> as I have gotten countless hours of entertainment from it.
> .
> Sherrie Gosling
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
> From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 11:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: one foundation
>  
> If you want so that we don’t clutter the list, you can email me at 
> pau...@roadrunner.com .  I really do want to 
> learn this silly game. 
> God bless!
> Paula and Garcon
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> MamaPeach
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 9:38 PM
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>  
> Double tap on the card beside the pack and then tap on the card where you 
> want to play it. Say the card next to the pack is a 5 of diamonds and there 
> is a 4 or a 6 that is exposed, double tap on the 5 and then double tap on the 
> 4 or the 6 to play the card, those will disappear and a new card will appeard 
> where the 4 or the 6 was. Keep doing this until you can play all of the cards 
> in the pack.
>  
> From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: one foundation
>  
> Hi, to those who play one foundation.  I don’t understand how to move cards.  
> Can someone enlighten me please. I get that you can only stack one card 
> before and one after a card, but when I tap them they don’t seem to move.  
> This seems like a game I might like even if it is for a short time since it 
> probably won’t work with IOS 11.  Thanks.
> God bless!
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Re: OCR Apps

[Aleeha Dudley]

While KNFB is excellent and I do own a copy, Prizmo Go is a very nice free 
option that will work almost as well as the reader. 

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> after every update. However, if it is believed that the results are superior 
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Re: Voices on IPhone 7

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Hello, 
Go into the speech settings for VoiceOver and you should be able to select them 
from there. You will need to find American English and double tap that, and you 
should see all the voices there. There have been some bugs in the past with 
voices not downloading, so make sure the phone is updated to the latest version 
of iOS.
HTH,
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> A friend just got a new IPhone 7 and we can not find a way to get the voices 
> for voiceover the way we did it with the 6S. She restored from a backup of 
> the 6S which had both the Alex voice and the AVA voice so how do we get them 
> activated on the new phone?
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Re: OCR scanning software for the Mac book

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Hi, 
I would advise using Docuscan plus for the Mac. It’s fairly easy to use and 
quite accurate.
Best,
Aleeha 
> On Feb 17, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Marissa Solaun  
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> Considering purchasing a MacBook I am aware that it comes with voiceover. My 
> question however, is what type of OCR software would be recommended?  coming 
> from Kurzweil  well 1000 for windows. 
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Re: apple music free tryel registration

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Yes, because after the trial, you will automatically be billed for the next 
month.

> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Fanus  wrote:
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Re: restoring purchased alert tones from iTunes

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Hi, 
Tis appears to only work with an iDevice affected by a bug in iOS 8.1. When you 
go to the site on the current iOS, it says that my tones were not affecteed. 
Thanks,
Aleeha 
> On Dec 11, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Helga Schreiber  
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> Hi, How are you? Below will be a link that will give you instructions in how 
> to restore your alert ringtonesor tones.  It says thee you need to go to 
> Itunes to the section of tones. that is one way. Hope this helps! I look 
> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! 
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> On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Gordon  > wrote:
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>> My GF and I got iPhone 7's this weekend. She has made a few purchases from 
>> the iTunes store, but those aren't showing up on her new phone after 
>> restoring from the encrypted  backup. When she plugged her SE into the 
>> computer iTunes told her that purchases were on her phone that hadn't been 
>> uploaded to iTunes yet and asked her if she wanted to do that which she did. 
>> So how do we go about getting these tones to the new phone?
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Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm

[Aleeha Dudley]

It does say it will not help. If you read toward the end of the article, you 
will see this: 

On both Android and iOS, algorithms run memory management. They’ll close apps 
that need to be closed, typically ones that have been dormant for a while or 
are using more power or memory than they should. And they’re very good at 
knowing when you’re going to need data, or want a refresh, or open an app 
again. Apps that are already in memory open quickly, rather than having to 
fully start again; it’s like waking your computer from sleep rather than 
rebooting it completely. You’re far, far better off letting the system work for 
you rather than forcing it to re-open and re-start everything every time. 
Battery questions aside, it makes your phone slower and less coherent.. 

The rest of what I said comes from someone who works closely with Apple 
products on a daily basis. Also, you want reputable? Despite the fact that all 
the major Mac and tech sites, like Wired, Lifehacker, 9 to 5 mac, Apple 
insider, etc, all, have, articles like this, do some simple searching and you 
will find a nicely done 9 to 5 mac article with screenshots of emails with 
verified message headers that are directly from Apple itself stating such 
facts. Time magazine published a similar article, as did other, non-rumor based 
sites. So, believe me or not, there you have it.


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
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> I find this hard to believe that closing an app in the app switcher is going 
> to create problems. I will have to hear this from a good reliable  source 
> before I believe this. I think closing an app is just like closing it on the 
> pc. It has no effect. In fact it might run better as it clear all the junk 
> out and the app a lot of times works better after closing it in the app 
> switcher and reopening it. This is what you said, “please, please, please 
> read this article, closing your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do.” 
> Now you need to go back an read the article on the link you posted. It said 
> closing an app does not help battery life. I did not see where it said 
> anything about closing an app could be harmful.
> Please correct me if I am wrong.
> Mr. Ed
>   <>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm
>  
> Hi, 
> Just a couple of things here. First, is that screen curtain on its own will 
> not help your battery. You must turn the brightness down to help in any way. 
> Second, charging at higher levels does not affect your battery like it used 
> to be rumored to. Third, and please, please, please read this article, 
> closing your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do. It will not save 
> battery and is not recommended (except for that one nasty time when Roger 
> decided to eat your battery like a picnic lunch). Read this article and be 
> informed. 
>  
>  
> https://www.wired.com/2016/03/closing-apps-save-battery-makes-things-worse/ 
> <https://www.wired.com/2016/03/closing-apps-save-battery-makes-things-worse/>
> Essentially, closing an app tells your device that something’s wrong, forcing 
> it to try to find another way to do things. After closing apps a lot, your 
> phone can become unstable and begin behaving oddly, causing the necessity to 
> restart or even restore the device. 
> HTH,
> Aleeha 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Tony mailto:t...@k5twz.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> From what I have read and experienced with lithium batteries charging habits 
>> don't have much effect on them.  Depending on brand and the care in 
>> manufacturing most batteries can be nearly completely discharged and then 
>> fully recharged from 300 to 1000 times.  Warranties are usually calculated 
>> at about 300 times but I have seen some as low as 100 cycles.
>> 
>> The life of a battery is not based on the number of times you charge it but 
>> on the total amount of current you use out of the battery.  Any time you 
>> have a charger plugged in the battery's life is not being shortened because 
>> nearly all of the power used is provided by the charger and not by the 
>> battery.
>> 
>> The only reason for frequently charging a battery is in case you may run it 
>> down before you are able to recharge it again.
>> 
>> Batteries, and the equipment they are used in, have been developed to the 
>> point they pretty much protect themselves from over charging and over 
>> heating.  They will quit working 

Re: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
Just a couple of things here. First, is that screen curtain on its own will not 
help your battery. You must turn the brightness down to help in any way. 
Second, charging at higher levels does not affect your battery like it used to 
be rumored to. Third, and please, please, please read this article, closing 
your apps is a very, very unhelpful thing to do. It will not save battery and 
is not recommended (except for that one nasty time when Roger decided to eat 
your battery like a picnic lunch). Read this article and be informed. 
https://www.wired.com/2016/03/closing-apps-save-battery-makes-things-worse/ 

Essentially, closing an app tells your device that something’s wrong, forcing 
it to try to find another way to do things. After closing apps a lot, your 
phone can become unstable and begin behaving oddly, causing the necessity to 
restart or even restore the device. 
HTH,
Aleeha 
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Tony  wrote:
> 
> From what I have read and experienced with lithium batteries charging habits 
> don't have much effect on them.  Depending on brand and the care in 
> manufacturing most batteries can be nearly completely discharged and then 
> fully recharged from 300 to 1000 times.  Warranties are usually calculated at 
> about 300 times but I have seen some as low as 100 cycles.
> 
> The life of a battery is not based on the number of times you charge it but 
> on the total amount of current you use out of the battery.  Any time you have 
> a charger plugged in the battery's life is not being shortened because nearly 
> all of the power used is provided by the charger and not by the battery.
> 
> The only reason for frequently charging a battery is in case you may run it 
> down before you are able to recharge it again.
> 
> Batteries, and the equipment they are used in, have been developed to the 
> point they pretty much protect themselves from over charging and over 
> heating.  They will quit working rather than become damaged.  While other 
> types of batteries could become hot enough to blister your sking or leak some 
> unpleasant chemical, lithium batteries can fail by catching on fire.  That is 
> why so much effort and money has been invested in battery safety.  
> Considering how many billions have been made, and how much users demand they 
> be more powerful, the number of serious battery failures is continuing to 
> decrease.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm
> 
> Hi Terri,
> 
> According to Popular Mechanics and Battery University, charging patterns have 
> little to no effect on battery life in today's modern phones (they used to 
> with other types of batteries), so no, when you decide to charge has no 
> effect on how long your battery will last.
> 
> As for things you can do to make the battery go longer between charges, you 
> can turn off the display (or actually I mean turn down the brightness of the 
> display).  Turn off automatic  brightness, the manually set the display to a 
> very low brightness level.  This means you will manually have to turn it back 
> up if you want to show a sighted person something.  Using the Voice Over 
> curtain feature is not the same, and does not save any battery.
> 
> As for the phone getting warm, I think this is just lack of cooling air 
> circulating around it; especially as you describe it slipping down in the 
> chair, but the bed is also a good insulator, even on one side.  If it's 
> plugged in when you feel it getting warm, I'd say this is normal.
> 
> Sometimes my phone gets warm even when not plugged in, but that's when I'm 
> using it a lot by talking or otherwise causing it to transmit (typing in 
> texts, emails, other transmissions).
> 
> I would think you could still by a battery case for your phone, certainly you 
> can just buy an external battery to plug it into for charging.
> 
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question regarding battery life, and phone getting warm
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have a few questions here. I am hoping someone can give me some thoughts, 
> or advice.
> 
> 
> First of all, my phone is up to date. I have the 5S. I can upgrade by 
> February, but I don't know if I will. I am paying for this phone monthly.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I have been noticing that sometimes my batter runs down faster. 
> I am on my phone quite a lot some days, more than other days. Not always 
> making calls, but checking out Facebook, and maybe commenting on posts, 
> or making posts. Checkin

Re: Voiceover volume on the Apple Watch

[Aleeha Dudley]

You can also two finger double tap and hold on the watch screen and drag your 
fingers up or down. You have to do it slowly, though, or you will run out of 
screen.
Aleeha 
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 2:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> What is the easiest and quickest way to raise or lower the volume of 
> Voiceover on the Apple Watch?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Question Regarding Restoring a Phone

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Hi, 
Restoring a phone puts a clean copy of the OS on the phone, which “erase all 
content and settings” does not do.
HTH,
Aleeha 
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Keith Bundy  wrote:
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> Hello, all. Recently I read some posts about battery drain and some people 
> recommended restoring the phone to factory settings then downloading your 
> apps again. So now my curiosity is up.
> 
> What is the difference between restoring to factory settings and erasing all 
> content and settings, signing into iCloud, and downloading your apps. There 
> may not be a difference, but I am very curious. I just did the latter because 
> my new iPhone 7 was running slower than expected when I restored my phone 
> from iCloud. 
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts. 
> 
> Keith 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Changing the Sound of the Alarm

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Hi, 
You’ll need to do this when setting up the alarm in the clock app. When you 
double tap on the add button, you will see different items, like when the alarm 
should repeat, and also on that screen is alarm sound. You can choose from all 
your ring tomes, or you can pick a song to wake up to.
HTH,
Aleeha 
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
>  wrote:
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> Is it possible to change the sound of the alarm the way one can change text  
> or tweet sounds?  If so, where?
>  
> Dulce
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Re: Locked screen

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I wish, but the only way to do this is to lower VoiceOver’s volume.
Aleeha 
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah, thanks, that is why I couldn't get it to work.  
> 
> Is there a way to lower the volume of the sound affects without lowering any 
> other volumes?  I find them somewhat intrusive.
> 
> Thanks.
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Aleeha 
> Dudley [blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Locked screen
> 
> Hello,
> You will need to have your VoiceOver sound effects on for this to work.
> Thanks,
> Aleeha
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when locking the 
>> screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I saw what to change in 
>> settings on this list, but I am not finding it.
>> 
>> Can anyone refresh my memory?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
>> pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Locked screen
>> 
>> Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
>> wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
>>> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
>>> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Locked screen
>>> 
>>> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked
>>> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
>>> Lynda,
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Re: Locked screen

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello, 
You will need to have your VoiceOver sound effects on for this to work. 
Thanks,
Aleeha 

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am trying to figure out how to just have the sound played when locking the 
> screen, so it won't say "Screen Locked".  I believe I saw what to change in 
> settings on this list, but I am not finding it.
> 
> Can anyone refresh my memory?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
> pegkan...@gmail.com [pegkan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Locked screen
> 
> Also, if you hit the side button on your phone I think it's called the sleep 
> wake button when the screen is locked it will make a funny noise.
> 
> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you touch the screen and nothing speaks, it is locked.
>> It does make a soft sound if sounds are enabled.
>> Also, if you hit the home button, you will find out if it is locked.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 8:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Locked screen
>> 
>> I notice with the latest update voice over does not say Screen Locked
>> any more.  So, how can I tell when the screen is locked?
>> Lynda,
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Re: youtube freezing the status bar

[Aleeha Dudley]

Yes, I have this issue as well. Running iOS 10 on an iPhone 6. 
Aleeha 
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:01 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
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> hi! all,
> when we are whatching a youtube video. 
> the status bar will freez.
> it means it will stop on the current time and battery status.
> 
> anyone have this issue?
> 
> 
> Ming
> 
> 
> msn/window live messenger
> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
> skype:
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> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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Re: VO Gesture to show the dial pad in Messages App?

[Aleeha Dudley]

You will just need to reply with a number by pressing the more, numbers button 
found in the bottom left of our keyboard. A row of numbers will appear at the 
top of the keyboard, as normal. Once you have found the number you want, type 
it like you would a letter and press the send button.
I hope this is helpful.
Aleeha 
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> 
> I received a text message instructing me to press 1,2,3,or 4- but can’t 
> locate any way to make a dial pad show in the messages app. Is this possible? 
>  
> Is there a way to dictate an answer or otherwise respond?  Thanks.
>  
> Cher
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Re: [ABD] Interest in a list to discuss I device and Mac betas?

[Aleeha Dudley]

Also, Adam, please do not cross post. It makes it difficult when people reply 
all, as I just did. 
Another fact of the matter: if people would reply all the the message Matt 
sends out, people would get added a lot faster. This is not all on us. 
Aleeha Dudley, co-moderator 

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> Hi all,
> 
> I realise there is currently a list to discuss betas but people aren't being 
> added in over a month.
> 
> I'm gauging interest in a new list.
> 
> If people can write to me off list at
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> a...@damorris.com
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Re: [ABD] Interest in a list to discuss I device and Mac betas?

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As one of the mods of this list, I must take some offense with your message. I, 
as well as Matt, the other moderator, have been enduring some significant life 
changes right now and haven’t had time to add people. Publicly bashing this 
list, on this list, is not OK. Creating another beta list is your prerogative, 
but further discussion on this list about it is offensive and in poor taste. 
Aleeha Dudley, co-moderator 
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 2:45 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I realise there is currently a list to discuss betas but people aren't being 
> added in over a month.
> 
> I'm gauging interest in a new list.
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> If people can write to me off list at
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> a...@damorris.com
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Re: RSS Games on the Apple devices, was RE: pretty exciting

[Aleeha Dudley]

Really? You want to find a developer who will do it for free? Blind people have 
to eat, too. And, even if they did find someone to do it for free, you might 
sacrifice quality. So many blind people are so entitled. They think that 
everything should be free to them because they’re blind. Honestly, I’ll happily 
put down the money, once  I have it. Get over it. DOn’t buy it if you don’t 
want to, but don’t complain about how they’re ripping people off. They’re not. 
It takes a lot to port something to the iPhone. Sighted people pay for high 
quality games, too. Honestly, this complaining sickens me and makes me ashamed 
of our community. 
Aleeha 
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I may not buy these games, as I am not much of a game player. But I always 
> wonder what goes into the thinking when people come on and say "this isn't 
> worth it". Just do it for free some other way. How do you suppose this got 
> ported to iOS? You think whoever did the programming did it for free? I doubt 
> it. What would be a fair price in your opinion? And how would you, having 
> absolutely no idea as to the costs involved in making the port to  iOS, 
> derive that proposed fair price?Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:13 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> 
>> This isn't worth it.
>> Its terrible that they charge an unreasonable price.
>> Don't buy into this scam, just play for free on your computer..


>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is mentioned in the article. It also mentions that for a one-time 
>>> price of $37 you have unlimited access to all games. We all have to make a 
>>> living and while I am not much into playing games, for somebody who is I 
>>> understand this is not a bad deal.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jen .
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: RSS Games on the Apple devices, was RE: pretty exciting
>>> 
>>> hi Yolie thing is it says after seven days you have to pay for the games 
>>> where is on the computer they are free unless I am missing something but 
>>> when I went into each game last night it told me I only had seven days left 
>>> for free to try them out
>>> 
 On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Gordon  wrote:
 
 Sorry I wasn't more specific on the original description. It was a long 
 hot day here in Dallas TX and I was ready to crash for the evening.
 
 
> On 7/26/2016 9:15 AM, christopher huby wrote:
> I must say this is fantastic news and I have just downloaded the app and 
> think It is wonderful as it allows you to play against other people 
> online and to see who is available to play against.
> 
> Thanks for letting us all know about this and thank you and well done to 
> the developers.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Christopher huby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: 26 July 2016 14:32
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RSS Games on the Apple devices, was RE: pretty exciting
> 
> I almost didn't read this because the subject was very vague.  I took a 
> chance and when I saw that the link was to Blind Bargains, I checked it 
> out.
> I've not been an RSS games player, but this might be worth checking out.
> Here is the full text of the article:
> 
> RS Games shuts the box on only computer playing, goes Apples to 
> Apples with iOS Scott Davert yesterday 11:54 PM ET  Earlier today, RS 
> Games announced on Twitter that there is now an iOS version of its 
> service available. The app, was developed with Kid Friendly Software 
> features many of the gestures and voice settings found in the 
> conventional Blindfold series of games.
> While the app is free, not all games are free to play. The games that are 
> free include Slots, Blackjack, Pig, and Driedel. All other games come 
> with a free 7 day trial which starts the first time you launch them, 
> whether you play them right away or not. Once your trial expires on a 
> specific game, you can then continue to use it via an in-app purchase. 
> All other games that are currently on the RS Games Server are available 
> for purchase. The prices on games ranged from $2.99 for a few of the 
> games, up to $5.99 for monopoly. There are also bundles available which 
> allows you to save a few dollars. You can pay for unlimited access to all 
> games for $37.99. After downloading the app, you will find more details 
> under the upgrades button.
> 
> This news will have players excitedly downloading the games, the 
> developers encourage players to check out the User Guide under the he