RE: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

[Carolyn Arnold]

When I use Facetime, I keep my screen facing me like taking a selfie, because 
essentially, that is what you are doing on Facetime. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 6:34 PM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Re: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

Hi, Richard.


When I use face time, does it default to the back facing camera or the front 
facing one?


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/3/2024 5:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
> I would suggest doing a facetime call with someone with the camera upside 
> down and have them tell you how that works.
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Richard,
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 1:39 PM
> To: V I Phone 
> Subject: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I recently purchased a neck lanyard from AT guys called a slinger slim.
>
>
> It's about half the size of an iPhone case with adhesives that stick to the 
> iPhone case and the lanyard.
>
>
> The person who set up the lanyard said the picture of the lanyard and an
> iPhone showed it with the camera part of the phone facing downward, in
> other words, the phone is upside down in the lanyard.  This lanyard was
> specifically recommended to be used with Be My Eyes, Aira and other
> hands free video calls.
>
>
> Does the position of the camera matter when using Aira or be my eyes?
> What about a Face Time call or using GPS?
>
>
>

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RE: Walmart right now it’s almost impossible!

[Carolyn Arnold]

Maybe a good idea if all of you Wal-Mart users send certified letters, 
signature required to Bentonville. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kolby Garrison
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Walmart right now it’s almost impossible!

Hi, Merv and All,

I, too, am experiencing the same scenario of the Walmart app being inaccessible 
using the latest app update (Version 24.39.1). I can also confirm the complete 
regression in accessibility began before iOS 18 was released. I continue to 
report the inaccessibility of the app via in-app feedback, reviews in the Apple 
App Store; and via the feedback form using a web browser.

I sincerely appreciate those of you who keep advocating for accessibility to be 
restored. I will continue to do so as well.

Thank you,

Kolby

 

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Walmart right now it’s almost impossible!

 

I order from Walmart using the iPhone App weekly. I had two updates in less 
than 24 hours. I had hopes that were dashed this morning when I found it was 
still hopelessly non-accessible. I gave it a review as I have been doing every 
week, asking for the accessibility to be restored. I submitted feedback I 
should more accurately say. Which seems to be going nowhere in my opinion.

Merv

 





On Oct 3, 2024, at 12:04 AM, Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Truer words have never been spoken that the Walmart app is almost 
impossible. I tried it for I don’t know how long and then my brother tried it 
and he is cited and he was having trouble. It’s just not worth the effort. They 
better fix it or they’re going tolose a lot of customers. I know a lot of us 
blind people do shop with Walmart.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On Oct 2, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
mailto:jennybomareto.from.flor...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I was able to add some items in my cart, however very very 
time-consuming. So would be nice if it worked like it did from the start. Now 
last night, for example after I checked out, and when I went into my most 
recent order when it said, I had items for tomorrow’s order. It worked like it 
was supposed to as if I was in the my items section of the app.

 

I’m so glad Mark got the app to work very well for him.

 

Yesterday when Mark and I were talking. He told me to go in to 
settings to make sure that under screen and brightness under font. If I 
remember right, I think that’s the name. I made sure it was set to default and 
it is. Any other settings y’all think I should check into if maybe something 
has to be changed? I had another conversation one of the CS people and it was 
like talking to a wall as usual!

 

It would be cool if there were some blind people that worked in 
Just like how there’s Apple accessibility that could help blind people or low 
vision order with all these difficulties. Also, yesterday, as I told Mark, I 
deleted the app turned off my phone turned it back on, reinstalled the app, 
turned off my phone, turned it back on, and then moved the app to page one. Now 
the guy did give me a promo code as well, and he had to tell me the promo code 
cause it’s easier for me to do it that way so I don’t have to get out of the 
Walmart app. I’ll be so grateful and thankful when everything gets back to 
normal in this app!  Oh, I also did what Bill said for navigating the app as 
well. As he said, it is easier but still very time-consuming.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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RE: Question about the reminder app

[Carolyn Arnold]

If I get them from Echo, is there a way that I have to mark them as complete? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the reminder app

Sieghard, 

Thanks for those additional details. They seem to support my decision to use my 
Echo for my reminders. 

Alan 
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 3, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

Hi Alan,

 

This once again is where I find Siri is very stupid. If I say “Set a 
reminder for October 8 at 10 AM” Siri will then ask what I want to be reminded 
about. If I then say “Doctor’s appointment at Noon” Siri answers me, OK, I’ll 
remind you and if I then check the reminder, it will still only say “Doctor’s 
appointment” and Siri will have set  it up for October 8 at 12 PM even though I 
had previously asked for it to be set for October 8 at 10 AM.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the reminder app

 

Or you could just set your reminder for the time you want to first be 
alerted and include the actual appointment time within the text of the 
reminder. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 3, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:

 

Say you want a reminder about a doctor’s appointment at 10 AM 
on October 8, just say to Siri “Remind me about my Doctor’s appointment at 10 
AM on October 8”.

The only thing is that if you want to be reminded a certain 
time prior to your appointment time, you have to open the reminders app after 
you created the reminder with Siri, flick down  with 1 finger until you get to 
“Show details”, double tap on it and then swipe until you find “Early 
Reminder”, double tap and select the time you want to be reminded prior to the 
appointment time. The options are:

5 minutes before

15 minutes before

30 minutes before

1 hour before

2 hours before

1 day before

2 days before

1 week before

1 month before

Custom – this allows you to select, for example, 3 hours or 5 
hours before, but you can only do full hours, something like 4 hours and 30 
minutes before is not supported.

I have so far not found a way to set a reminder with Siri for a 
particular time and include the information about a 2 hour early reminder. 
Maybe once we get further with Apple Intelligence Siri will be able to do this.

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about the reminder app

 

Hello,

 

What should I do to have the phone reminding me about anything?

Once I asked Siri to remind me and the reminder showed up in my 
windows pc instead of the phone.

I would like the phone ring or make any sound to remind me  

Is it possible?

 

Rena

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RE: Question about the reminder app

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is what I do, alan. 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about the reminder app

Or you could just set your reminder for the time you want to first be alerted 
and include the actual appointment time within the text of the reminder. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 3, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

Say you want a reminder about a doctor’s appointment at 10 AM on 
October 8, just say to Siri “Remind me about my Doctor’s appointment at 10 AM 
on October 8”.

The only thing is that if you want to be reminded a certain time prior 
to your appointment time, you have to open the reminders app after you created 
the reminder with Siri, flick down  with 1 finger until you get to “Show 
details”, double tap on it and then swipe until you find “Early Reminder”, 
double tap and select the time you want to be reminded prior to the appointment 
time. The options are:

5 minutes before

15 minutes before

30 minutes before

1 hour before

2 hours before

1 day before

2 days before

1 week before

1 month before

Custom – this allows you to select, for example, 3 hours or 5 hours 
before, but you can only do full hours, something like 4 hours and 30 minutes 
before is not supported.

I have so far not found a way to set a reminder with Siri for a 
particular time and include the information about a 2 hour early reminder. 
Maybe once we get further with Apple Intelligence Siri will be able to do this.

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Rena
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about the reminder app

 

Hello,

 

What should I do to have the phone reminding me about anything?

Once I asked Siri to remind me and the reminder showed up in my windows 
pc instead of the phone.

I would like the phone ring or make any sound to remind me  

Is it possible?

 

Rena

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RE: Question about the reminder app

[Carolyn Arnold]

I just say:

9 AM, 10/17, remind me audiology at 3, 10/18.; It does. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the reminder app

Say you want a reminder about a doctor’s appointment at 10 AM on October 8, 
just say to Siri “Remind me about my Doctor’s appointment at 10 AM on October 
8”.

The only thing is that if you want to be reminded a certain time prior to your 
appointment time, you have to open the reminders app after you created the 
reminder with Siri, flick down  with 1 finger until you get to “Show details”, 
double tap on it and then swipe until you find “Early Reminder”, double tap and 
select the time you want to be reminded prior to the appointment time. The 
options are:

5 minutes before

15 minutes before

30 minutes before

1 hour before

2 hours before

1 day before

2 days before

1 week before

1 month before

Custom – this allows you to select, for example, 3 hours or 5 hours before, but 
you can only do full hours, something like 4 hours and 30 minutes before is not 
supported.

I have so far not found a way to set a reminder with Siri for a particular time 
and include the information about a 2 hour early reminder. Maybe once we get 
further with Apple Intelligence Siri will be able to do this.

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about the reminder app

 

Hello,

 

What should I do to have the phone reminding me about anything?

Once I asked Siri to remind me and the reminder showed up in my windows pc 
instead of the phone.

I would like the phone ring or make any sound to remind me  

Is it possible?

 

Rena

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RE: Here’s the first text I wrote to her.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Maybe good idea to write a letter to Vice-President of Marketing in 
Bentonville, Arkansas. 

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Jenny Bomareto
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Here’s the first text I wrote to her.

Well,




Still the same thing is occurring for me in the wish list. Which is horrible as 
I said that the Blind community isn’t able to do the same as visual people when 
we want to order our necessities and food and all. I thought about writing in 
the section where it talks about give feedback However I feel like I’m just 
talking to the wall on that one too as it’s been with all the other 
representatives. All of the Blind community as I said is very frustrated me 
being one of them as I told you earlier.  I’ve been took the app off my phone 
re-downloaded it twice. Turned off my phone. Then, when my friend told me 
yesterday there was another update still the same thing even after turning off 
my phone turning it back on.  Yesterday one of my neighbors also was trying to 
help me and the same thing occurred for her as well. And I’ve even told the CS 
people that this is very very wrong that we like our independence and it’s very 
important for us to have our independence just the same as visual people.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Question about the reminder app

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh yes, I have a custom Reminder sound too. 

Since my hearing is so bad, on text messages, I have train whistle, but for my 
daughter-in-law, where I have bicycle horn. 

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Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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And I also have a custom reminder sound to ensure I do not miss a reminder. 
Merv


> On Oct 3, 2024, at 9:43 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You set Reminder Sound in Sounds and Haptics,. I get one nightly reminder for 
> my husband's medical care. I have to keep marking the things complete though. 
> Years back, when I got a weekly one for a medication he took, I never marked 
> anything. Could be that I needed to, just didn't know. 
> 
> One time, we walked into a department store, when they opened at 9 A.M. on a 
> Wednesday, when my phone proudly announced to the world, Wednesday, 
> Methotrexate time! I keep my phone on Bluetooth to my hearing aids, so no one 
> hears my phone. I am so thankful for that. If I didn't have hearing aids, I'd 
> get some kind of Bluetooth headset that was small enough to use all the time. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rena
> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about the reminder app
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> What should I do to have the phone reminding me about anything?
> 
> Once I asked Siri to remind me and the reminder showed up in my windows pc 
> instead of the phone.
> 
> I would like the phone ring or make any sound to remind me  
> 
> Is it possible?
> 
> 
> 
> Rena
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RE: Question about the reminder app

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, I always get Siri to set up reminders. One thing good about it, I can say, 
Siri, remind me to call so and so, when I get home, and Siri will do that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith Kramlinger
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the reminder app

Hi,
I briefly used the Reminders app, but grew frustrated that I always missed the 
alert and then also had to indicate that the task was completed.
Since, I have been asking Siri to, create a new event on Tuesday at 2:15 PM to 
2:16 PM titled whatever the task is you wish. Then I get a single alert at the 
time of the event, or if you have Set up the event in a way to have an advance 
notice of the event it will indicate that at a specified time. Prior to the 
stated time of the event.
Best, Keith

> On Oct 3, 2024, at 8:43 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You set Reminder Sound in Sounds and Haptics,. I get one nightly reminder 
> for my husband's medical care. I have to keep marking the things complete 
> though. Years back, when I got a weekly one for a medication he took, I never 
> marked anything. Could be that I needed to, just didn't know.
> 
> One time, we walked into a department store, when they opened at 9 A.M. on a 
> Wednesday, when my phone proudly announced to the world, Wednesday, 
> Methotrexate time! I keep my phone on Bluetooth to my hearing aids, so no one 
> hears my phone. I am so thankful for that. If I didn't have hearing aids, I'd 
> get some kind of Bluetooth headset that was small enough to use all the time.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rena
> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about the reminder app
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> What should I do to have the phone reminding me about anything?
> 
> Once I asked Siri to remind me and the reminder showed up in my windows pc 
> instead of the phone.
> 
> I would like the phone ring or make any sound to remind me  
> 
> Is it possible?
> 
> 
> 
> Rena
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RE: Question about the reminder app

[Carolyn Arnold]

You set Reminder Sound in Sounds and Haptics,. I get one nightly reminder for 
my husband's medical care. I have to keep marking the things complete though. 
Years back, when I got a weekly one for a medication he took, I never marked 
anything. Could be that I needed to, just didn't know. 

One time, we walked into a department store, when they opened at 9 A.M. on a 
Wednesday, when my phone proudly announced to the world, Wednesday, 
Methotrexate time! I keep my phone on Bluetooth to my hearing aids, so no one 
hears my phone. I am so thankful for that. If I didn't have hearing aids, I'd 
get some kind of Bluetooth headset that was small enough to use all the time. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rena
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about the reminder app

Hello,

 

What should I do to have the phone reminding me about anything?

Once I asked Siri to remind me and the reminder showed up in my windows pc 
instead of the phone.

I would like the phone ring or make any sound to remind me  

Is it possible?

 

Rena

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RE: Best Buy Program V Apple care?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I always got apartment insurance, but never Apple Care. 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
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I've had apple care on my last four phones and have never had to use it. I'm 
currently using the 15 pro and will not likely upgrade until next year when the 
17 line comes out, and at that time I might decide to dump apple care. Haven't 
quite decided. Years ago one of my friends moved, and as he had never been 
robbed he decided not to get apartment insurance. Two weeks after he moved he 
was robbed, lol.

Chris Judge






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Hudson
Sent: October 2, 2024 11:35 PM
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Subject: Re: Best Buy Program V Apple care?

I recommend, since your phone is an Apple phone to purchase AppleCare as well. 
As Best Buy is not obligated to work on an Apple phones and it came voyager 
Apple warranty.

> On Oct 2, 2024, at 4:11 AM, donmoor...@gmail.com wrote:
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> My phone should be covered under my Best Buy yearly contract which 
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RE: Best Buy Program V Apple care?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I am so thankful. If I had Apple Care at $14 a month, I'd have paid $336 by 
now, and in one more year, $484! Wow, I could get a new SE with that and money 
back for my 14 Pro, if I wanted to this time next year. 

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Joshua Hendrickson
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I pay $14 per month for apple care. I’m glad I have that protection available 
to me. I know that when I need to have my battery replaced on my 13 pro max, 
that it won’t cost anything which I think is so cool. Good luck.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Oct 2, 2024, at 4:11 AM, donmoor...@gmail.com wrote:
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RE: send to phone from PC

[Carolyn Arnold]

That's entirely different. I have never texted from my computer, only my 
iPhone. 

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From: 'Curtis Delzer' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2024 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: send to phone from PC

I wish it to go to his text "messaging" app, thanks.

On 9/28/2024 11:25 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
> If you have your son's email address, you can use your PC to send a 
> message to his phone if he has set up an email account on his phone.
>
> Marty Hutchings
>
> On 9/28/2024 1:04 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>> I've read your message several times, and have no idea what you are 
>> trying to do.
>> You have your son's iPhone, is that right?
>> You are wanting to use his iPhone to send an email to him?
>> Am I reading that correctly?
>>
>> Have you ever used an iPhone?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
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>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2024 10:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: send to phone from PC
>>
>> I wish to send email to my son with his iPhone, so how do I do that 
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RE: send to phone from PC

[Carolyn Arnold]

I send to my daughter-in-law, and her email, like mine, is in sync with her 
iPhone, so she can get my message on either device. 

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From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2024 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: send to phone from PC

I've read your message several times, and have no idea what you are trying to 
do.
You have your son's iPhone, is that right?
You are wanting to use his iPhone to send an email to him?
Am I reading that correctly?

Have you ever used an iPhone?



Richard, USA
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I wish to send email to my son with his iPhone, so how do I do that from my PC?

Please help!

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RE: Light Detector app gone?

[Carolyn Arnold]

My color identifier has light detection too, in addition, of course, to Seeing 
A I. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 11:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Light Detector app gone?

Apparently both the one called Light Detecter and the Boop Light Detecter are 
both gone. Seeing AI has a light detection channel.
I just checked under my purchases in the app store and neither light detecter 
or boop are showing up. 



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On Aug 30, 2024, at 7:26 PM, vcollins5...@gmail.com wrote:





Have any of you tried to download the Light Detector app lately? With 
me here in the United States, I’m no longer able to get it from the app store, 
although I am still able to use it on two of my three iPhones.

 

When I couldn’t get any service on my iPhone 13 Mini on Tuesday, but I 
could get service on the 12 Mini, I somehow thought the problem was on my end 
and erased the 13 Mini and then restored it using the quick startup feature 
with my still working iPhone 12 Mini. Since all of my iPhones are set to be as 
much alike as their software will allow, I could do that. And while I still had 
no service on that iPhone after the first restore, I erased and tried again. 
And by that time, apparently AT&T had resolved the issue and I once again had 
service, but the Light Detector app just wasn’t available to me anymore. I was 
kind of surprised, though, as the app had indeed been available when I set up 
my iPhone 15 Pro in early June, but I was now told that the app was no longer 
available in the app store.

 

A couple of side notes here, just because. I still thought the problem 
was with my 13 Mini until I got a text message from AT&T today saying I would 
get a credit because of the outage on Tuesday. I then went and looked on the 
web and saw the story about the network issues on Tuesday.

 

Also, although I’m still using my two iPhone Mini phones right now, my 
iPhone 15 Pro is all set up and ready to go once my iPhone 12 Mini battery gets 
to 80% and I send it back to Apple for an Apple gift card. Both of my Mini 
phones are showing the battery at 81% right now, so maybe I should go ahead and 
put in that request before the new iPhones come out and the trade-in values get 
lower. And, grin, I’m thinking my 13 Mini will likely take its trip to Apple a 
little after Black Friday.

 

Oh, one more thing, while I’m at it. As to why I have two active 
iPhones instead of just the one, remember, I don’t have any separate internet 
or cable here, which is my choice, but that means that anything I do along 
those lines is done with my iPhone, whether it be streaming or personal hotspot 
or whatever. And since I use the iPhone for practically everything, just one 
won’t last me all day, thus I want to have an iPhone available to move around 
with me while the other one is charging.



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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

True enough, no way to get out of paying and one way or the other is right for 
sure.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Caroline, you can use your phone to death for everything whether you have an 
expensive plan or not. The fact is that carriers as a rule still ge ttheir 
money's worth and they are not giving you a brand new iPhone for half the 
price. Tjhey may make it sound that way, but believe me, if you add it all up 
you pay for it one way or another. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Yeah, like my daughter-in-law lawst year this time - 15 Pro Max for $320.00. 
She has no problem with an expensive phone plan, because she uses her phone to 
death for everything. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

I bought my 11 from AT&T on a plan like that and also my 14 Pro. When the COVID 
stimulous came, I called AT&T and paid off the 11 free and clear. When I got my 
14 Pro, I had it for ten months, when I had to change to Verizon because of 
better coverage here, and it cost me $794 to pay it off, which I did. So now, 
the phone is all mine. I'm guessing that I came out somewhere in the middle, 
could have paid more or less each time. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

And typically the really good offers from the carriers are for phones that are 
a year or two old; for the latest model you will in the end pay even if the 
cost is hidden in ane xpensive plan or an extra fee you pay for 24 months. 
People here sometimes don't think this through, they are told an iPhone 16 Gb 
128 Gb is $42.50 a months over 24 months which comes to $1,020, then they see 
the phone at Apple is $1,449 and they think they are saving $400. Then maybe  
the carrier gives them a couple of hundred for their old phone which they could 
sell for probably at least 50% more if they sold it privately and it's an even 
better deal. They don't consider that they either have to give the phone back 
after 2 years and again sign up for an expensiv e monthly charge for the next 
new phone or they are then surprised if they are charged a buy-out fee so they 
can keep the phone..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good that you got that. When I was looking into Android, I thought that the 
Pixel was really good, so I hope people jump at your offer on them. 

-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

If you buy a phone from Apple, isn't it unlocked by default? For carriers to 
still lock phones is pretty antiquated and I just don't understand the 
reasoning. If you buy the phone on a contract where you pay a monthly amount 
for two years to pay the  phone off means you already have a contract so what's 
the point to lock the phone.
I am really glad that the CRTC here in Canada, I believe that is a little bit 
like the FCC in the US, has put an end to SIM locking and was already on 
December 1, 2017, so almost 7 years ago. I didn't want to buy a new iPhone 16 
or 16 Pro from my carrier here which is Telus, either. An iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb 
would have cost me $42.50 a months for 24 months and then if I wanted to keep 
the phone after that, I would have had to pay a $470 buy-out fee. If you add 
that all up, it's $1,490 and I can buy a brand new iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb at the 
Apple Store for $1,449 Canadian, $40 less than the Telus offer. Of course they 
say that I could pay monthly and all that, but if I add the monthly cost of the 
$470 buy-out fee over 24 months, it is just under $20 which means if I add this 
to the $42.50 monthly cost, I am paying a bit over $62 and that again is 
exactly the same as Apple's price if I buy the phone on a monthly plan from 
them except on the Apple Store site they are upfront about it and say that this 
means a 7.9% interest fee.
Anyways, after I was persistent about not wanting a new iPhone, the agent I 
spoke with said she could still offer me a new and better plan. I have a Telus 
business account with 4 phones on it and I pay $65 a month per phone which 
includes unlimited calling and texting in Canada and 55 Gb of 5G data. The new 
plan she told me was exactly the same $65, but it would include free calls and 
texts to Canada, the US and Mexico and data was 250 Gb and it also included 
1000 international minutes pretty much to any country in the world. It was of 
course not difficult to make the decision to upgrade to that plan and lock it 
in for 2 years, then she told me that I could also get a Google Pixel 8 128 Gb 
phone for free with that plan as well as a Telus Smart Hub I could, for 
example, use as backup should my fiber internet go down. I said that while I am 
not an Android user, I would of course not say no, and I expected to receive 1 
google Pixel 8 phone and the hub, instead yesterday I received my package and 
it included 4 Google Pixel 8 phones, one for each line on my plan, and the hub. 
When I checked online, these phones which are now last year's Pixel model with 
google having released the Pixel 9 this year, still go for $679 at Best Buy and 
I think Walmart had them for $655. I left all 4 phones in their boxes so they 
are entirely new and unopened and I will try to sell them for $550 assuming 
most people may offer me $500. But that is still $2,000 which is more than the 
iPhone 16 Pro 128 Gb I am looking to buy costs. All  in all I always read 
Canada has some of the highest costs for cell plans, but sometimes you also get 
an unexpected bonus.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either put 
in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other than 
if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the new 
one. I hope that explains everything.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
> question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
> connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
> What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
> buy it through Apple, at least I can get

RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I can just trurn off Bluetooth, if I need to do that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

There are adjustments they can make.  I usually wind up putting an old set of 
hearing aids on so the blue tooth doesn't kick in since apparently if you're 
wearing them, it's the primary connection.  I'm going to be looking at new 
phones this weekend, so I'll try to find out if that changes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Definitely yesterday, when I disengaged Bluetooth, it cleared the connection. 
Good point about microphone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
>> 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is encouraging, in case I ever want to change again. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Well, I guess I was lucky, because the two times I've had to switch numbers to 
a different carrier, it took maybe 30 minutes. And I've done this several times.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is an ordeal to get a number transferred, if changing carriers. However, 
> when I did change to Verizon from AT&T, when AT&T realized that I'd moved to 
> a rural area, and that Verizon had fuller coverage here, they worked with me 
> and Verizon to port my number. It takes some time, like several days, or it 
> did in my case. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
> suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
> getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some 
> vague memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t 
> remember though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 
> 10 are isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
> Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
> get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred 
> to your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t 
> back in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
>> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
>> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
>> That makes it worth the while.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch 
>>>>> carriers but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on 
>>>>> T-Mobile. But as far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me 
>>>>> anything useful. I would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, 
>>>>> which would be really stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any 
>>>>> of the extras that we would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a 
>>>>> phone through Apple that is going to be connected with your carrier once 
>>>>> you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to 
>>>>> going through your carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at 
>>>>> least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when 
>>>>> you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>

RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good point. I( have an appointment in about three weeks. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but still, 
> people continue to say I'm breaking up.
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
> 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yeah. I've always gone through carrier. I don't think I'd do any other way, but 
good that we have options. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I went through my carrier and that way it is already setup with the eSim and I 
just had to activate it when it arrived.
So, essentially, buying it online.  


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

Oh well that’s a bummer. I’m going to buy it online, because we don’t have an 
Apple Store.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:22 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up 
> with your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you 
> have to take it to your carrier to activate.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier 
> pluses and minuses
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
> when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a 
> new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
> probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

It is an ordeal to get a number transferred, if changing carriers. However, 
when I did change to Verizon from AT&T, when AT&T realized that I'd moved to a 
rural area, and that Verizon had fuller coverage here, they worked with me and 
Verizon to port my number. It takes some time, like several days, or it did in 
my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

OK. So I can’t remember if this phone has an eSIM or not. It’s a 10 R. I 
suppose the new ones have already in them, so the only question would be 
getting my number changed over to that one from this one, and I have some vague 
memory of some kind of online process you could do for that. I don’t remember 
though. There’s no reason for me to go through the carrier, as this 10 are 
isn’t going to be worth  very much of anything. 
 Better to keep it around as a spare, plus I still have barred books I need to 
get off of here by reading them. I wish that bar books would be transferred to 
your new phone when you get it, but they’re not. Or at least they weren’t back 
in the day, and I assume they still are not. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Julian  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to 
> be a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a 
> phone through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal 
> That makes it worth the while.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
>> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if 
>> you get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no 
>> problem. I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
 six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
 but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
 far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
 would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
 stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
 would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
 that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
 not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
 carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
 back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
 bucks or so.  Mary
 
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

I just get mine from the carrier and get them to get me set up. Mostly, that 
has worked very well. I had one that really saw me coming, and when I got the 
first month's bill, I made a call, and we took stuff off. 

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Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:22 PM
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and minuses

I used to buy my phones at the local Apple Store and they would set you up with 
your carrier of choice, but now they just sell you the phone and you have to 
take it to your carrier to activate.

Andy


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Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses 
and minuses

I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with Verizon 
when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you get a new 
phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. I’ll 
probably get my next phone through apple as well.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the carrier 
> and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that I've 
> purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and either 
> put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any parks other 
> than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards the cost of the 
> new one. I hope that explains everything.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
>> years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
>> think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
>> can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
>> upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our 
>> case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so 
>> the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to 
>> be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked 
>> phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure 
>> that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple 
>> card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yeah, like my daughter-in-law lawst year this time - 15 Pro Max for $320.00. 
She has no problem with an expensive phone plan, because she uses her phone to 
death for everything. 

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Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 6:21 PM
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and minuses

Hi Mary,

I always prefer to get my phones directly from Apple. Generally, it tends to be 
a lot less complicated. The only reason, at least in my opinion, to get a phone 
through your carrier is if your carrier is offering such a good deal That makes 
it worth the while.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve bought all my pfones through apple. I just told apple I was with 
> Verizon when I bought my iPhone 8 and 13 pro max and all was good. Now if you 
> get a new phone, you’ll have to have an esim card, but that shde no problem. 
> I’ll probably get my next phone through apple as well.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:48 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary, I've purchased phones that are going to be connected to the 
>> carrier and I'm also purchased unlocked phones. However, any phones that 
>> I've purchased, from Apple directly, I have just done it all unlocked and 
>> either put in my Sim card or activated the eSIM. There's not really any 
>> parks other than if your phone has any value to it they'll put it towards 
>> the cost of the new one. I hope that explains everything.
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is 
>>> six years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers 
>>> but I think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as 
>>> far as I can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I 
>>> would have to upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really 
>>> stupid in our case, since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we 
>>> would get. so the question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple 
>>> that is going to be connected with your carrier once you get it? That is 
>>> not an unlocked phone. What’s that like as opposed to going through your 
>>> carrier? I figure that if I buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% 
>>> back via my Apple card, which beats a blank when you’re talking about 1000 
>>> bucks or so.  Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and minuses

[Carolyn Arnold]

Well, Mary, for a thousand-dollar phone, yuou get $50, if you get 5%. While 
that is not a lot, it could be that you'd save money, if you can get a cheaper 
calling plan. 

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Mary Otten
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Subject: Purchasing a phone from Apple rather than from your carrier pluses and 
minuses

Hi all.
I have always gotten my phones through my carrier. This present phone is six 
years old, so it’s been a while. I had thought I might switch carriers but I 
think we’re going to standpat with what we have on T-Mobile. But as far as I 
can see, T-Mobile isn’t really offering me anything useful. I would have to 
upgrade to their most expensive plan, which would be really stupid in our case, 
since we don’t need or want any of the extras that we would get. so the 
question: has anybody purchased a phone through Apple that is going to be 
connected with your carrier once you get it? That is not an unlocked phone. 
What’s that like as opposed to going through your carrier? I figure that if I 
buy it through Apple, at least I can get 5% back via my Apple card, which beats 
a blank when you’re talking about 1000 bucks or so.  Mary

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Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

[Carolyn Arnold]

So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
breaking up. 

Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
connection to her. 

I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
on. 

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RE: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is what I have heard now, that it was not available there. It is way more 
convenient to read it on my Victor than my computer, but in this case, it is 
like saying, it would be way more convenient if I could see, LOL! 

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donmoor...@gmail.com
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Subject: RE: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

Suggestion that you ask on the victor stream list?  I think I saw where he was 
shutting it down though.

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Arnold
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 2:06 PM
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Subject: Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

The subject says it all. I tried to get it, was told it could not be found. 
Thanks for any help. 

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RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Carolyn Arnold]

LiDAR is a good thing, but a battery eater. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

Yes, any Pro or Pro Max phone since the iPhone 12 has LiDAR.

You can’t “activate” it, you can take advantage of it by using apps which use 
it such as Seeing AI as well as the iPhone’s built-in Magnify feature. If you 
open it, tap on “Detection Mode” near the bottom of the screen, you then get 
the following explanation:

 

Detection mode, heading

Point and speak, to use point and speak, point to a specific sectionn of text 
or move your pointer finger around in the camera view. Your iPhone will detect 
the text near  your finger and read this text to you.

Text, use your iPhones camera to hear and read the text detected nearby

People, your iPhone can let you know when it detects people nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the person is 
closer to you.

Doors, your iPhone can let you know when it detects doors nearby with sound, 
speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the door is 
closer to you.

Furniture, your iPhone can let you know when it detects furniture nearby with 
sound, speech and haptic feedback. Feedback will be more frequent if the 
furniture is closer to you.

Scenes, scenes provide a live description of the scenes detected in the camera 
view.

All detection modes, double tap the screen with 2 fingers to pause or resume 
detection.

Continue, button

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What will Lidar do for me.

 

Hi, Richard. I have 15 pro, does that mean I already have lider? If yes, how 
can I activate it, please? 

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 22, 2024, at 12:18 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

 

Also, it will tell you exactly how many feet you are away from and air 
tag. As you move closer the feet report changes as you get closer so you can 
find the air tag.

Mr. Ed

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

HI LIDAR is built-in to the pro models since the 12 pro.

The letters stand for light detection and ranging.

Some apps are using it for object and people detection.  It helps with 
photographs.  The iPhone Magnifier app can use it to detect people, doors, and 
text.

Seeing AI uses it in the World Channel on phones that have it for 
detection of some things.

There is, or was, a free app called Super LIDAR that I have not tried 
for a couple of years, so maybe it has been updated to do more.

 

I’ll paste a link to a Wikipedia article that will tell you far more 
than you want or need to know,.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

 

It may be that app developers will begin taking more advantage of that 
technology, but no one knows for sure.

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 6:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

So how do you get started with LIDAR? Is it an app? Or is it on another 
app? And how do you  start learning what all things that you can do with it?  

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What will Lidar do for me.

 

LIDAR, which you spelled correctly, has one feature that is clearly 
intended to help visually impaired and it will take the app developers to 
really leverage it in more ways.  Some are trying to, like Seeing AI’s World 
channel that tries to identify objects and tell you how far away they are, etc.

Here is a list I grabbed from Copilot, number 3 is Door Detection that 
is really useful in unfamiliar buildings. 

 

1.  Sharper Photos: LiDAR helps the camera capture sharper photos, 
especially in low-light conditions. So, your nighttime shots will look even 
better! 🌙📸

2. Augmented Reality (AR): LiDAR enables AR experiences by 
blending the real world with virtual elements. Here are

RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

[Carolyn Arnold]

Speaking of Health, I need to edit something. I have tried in Settings and just 
going into Health from the Home Page, but no success so far. Thanks for any 
help. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

Yes, I meant to correct myself. The metrics and interaction with the Health app 
are new, but they weren’t that important to me. I shouldn’t have assumed that 
others wouldn’t have found them important.

 

I could have sworn there was already a search option, but I can’t check now. 
This is a big deal.

 

Another thing I noticed, which doesn’t seem like a big deal, but it is 
important to my perfectionist self, is that when you set the date to the 
moment, it uses the time of the moment as well and not the moment date with the 
current time.

 

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Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2024 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

 

I don’t recall that there was a sjejarch function or the insights thing where 
you see how nany days you have Journal entries for, how many words and all that.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

 

I was excited when I saw this email in my inbox, but when I read it, I didn’t 
see anything that wasn’t already in the Journal app before I upgraded to IOS 18.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 7:38 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: iOS 18 Brings Much Needed Features to Journal App, 9 to 5 Mac

 

9 to 5 Mac - Thursday, September 19, 2024

Last year, Apple introduced its brand new Journal App alongside its iOS 17.2 
update. It was a very basic app with one real function: inputting journal 
entries in chronological order. While customers welcomed the new free app, many 
pretty basic features were missing. There was no search functionality, no 
password protection, and no additional insights that could be seen. Just one 
continuous feed for your journal entries. But, it looks as though Apple 
listened to our feedback and added a few new features to the iOS 18 version of 
the Journal App. Here are all the changes you can use today!

Be sure to check out our hands-on video below to see all these changes in 
action.
1.
Search
This was the one feature Apple omitted from their initial Journal App release 
that annoyed me a bit. I know people who journal multiple times a day. So if 
you had 100s of journal entries, there was no way to quickly look up one that 
you wrote in the past. You would have to endlessly scroll through your feed 
attempting to find your three-month-old entry. This was a big turn-off for many 
digital journalers. One of the best parts of journaling is being able to go 
back later and reflect on past entries. The fact that there was no search 
function really made that tough to do.
So the first thing Apple did was add a search function that persists on the top 
right corner. You can search based on media type, text that was written, dates, 
activities and pretty much anything that has something to do with a post. This 
makes management and navigation of the entire app much better.
 
2.
Insights
The next feature Apple added was the insights feature. This is my absolute 
favorite new feature. This essentially gamifies the journal entry process but 
giving you all the data you want to know about your journaling. You can see:
• Number of entries
• Words written
• Daily and weekly streaks
• Calendar view
• Visited locations
• Media types journaled
Apple really doubled down on this because the very first thing you see when you 
open the app is an info bar at the top that gives you some insights into your 
journaling at a glance. They also added a much more robust page view of your 
insights that gives you all the metrics listed above. Not only that, but they 
also allow you to expand on each one of the insight cards to get an even better 
look at each statistic. All in all, a very welcome update to the Journal App.
 
3.
Locking Journal App
iOS 18 gave users the ability to hide and password-protect individual apps. Be 
sure to watch our walkthroughs here to see how that is done. But on top of this 
new feature, Apple gave us the ability to also lock the Journal app. The 
process

Question, how do I get Living Blindfully 300 on my Victor Stream?

[Carolyn Arnold]

The subject says it all. I tried to get it, was told it
could not be found. Thanks for any help. 

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RE: moving junk mail to not junk mail in the mail app

[Carolyn Arnold]

I highlight a message in Junk Mail, then move it to my Inbox. Then, say, if it 
is a one for a specific box, I set up another message rule for it to go to that 
box. If I want to move everything out of Junk, I press Control A, when in Junk 
to move all of them en bloc. 

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If you have multiples, hit the edit button at the top, and click the mark 
button and select not junk. But first, do you have to select them all.

> On Sep 20, 2024, at 2:59 AM, Janet Wright  wrote:
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> does anyone know how to move junk mail to be non-junk mail in the mail app on 
> iOS?
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: What will Lidar do for me.

[Carolyn Arnold]

LiDAR is in Magnification. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
k...@axistech.net
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2024 11:13 AM
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Subject: What will Lidar do for me.

I’m one who only upgrades my phone when I can’t do things I want to do. For 
this reason last March my wife and I turned in our iPhone 6S phones for iPhone 
15S. Over recent months I have used access apps like Seeing AI BeMyAI etc. I 
have heard that accessibility apps for the blind will be greatly enhanced or 
only work if the phone has Lidar. I know that’s probably not the correct 
spelling. Anyway, when I got my 15S last March I thought the guy at the AT&T 
store told me it had Lidar. I have since discovered that it doesn’t. My 
question is what will Lidar do for me that I can’t do without it? I am 
seriously thinking of upgrading to a 16 Pro in a few months if Lidar is really 
that important. Can someone give me a description of what I would get if I had 
Lidar? Thanks.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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RE: the iPhone se

[Carolyn Arnold]

Sorry to say me too, but I just have to post that I agree with you, Sieghard. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 8:25 PM
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Subject: RE: the iPhone se

There is no big rush since the new iPhone SE will not be released until the 
Spring. In any case, I'd take an iPhone SE 4th Gen with Face Id over a 3rd Gen 
with Touch Id any day because the new iPhone will be multiple generations more 
advanced with the processor and support Apple Intelligence. The 3rd Generation 
iPhone has the same processor as an iPhone 13 and while it will still get iOS 
updates for several more years, Touch Id is a thing of the past so whether you 
get Face Id now or in a few years, it really doesn't matter, at least that is 
my opinion. I actually wouldn't go back to Touch Id if you gave me a free phone 
and $100 cash.


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yes, it can
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>>> I am thinking of getting an IPhone se, which one do users recomend?
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RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yeah, I just go to Control Center. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

No, you can add Airplane mode, cellular data and personal hotspot, but not 
Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.
There is a Shortcuts heading in the list of available items which has 2 items, 
" Shortcut" and "Open app", I think maybe it might be possible to make a 
shortcut to toggle Bluetooth, but can't say for sure.
Of course you can just swipe down from the top to open Control Center and then 
toggle Bluetooth there or ask Siri to turn it off or on.
I wrote out the entire list of available actions/apps below, whenever it says 
"Heading" it means if you turn the rotor to heading you can navigate to any of 
these headings and then swipe right to the individual items. Keep in mind that 
"Just Press Record" will of course only be there if you have that app and maybe 
you have an app which supports this which is in your list and which I don't 
have.

Heading: Capture
Camera, control
Scan code, control

Heading: Clock
Alarm, control
Timer, control

Heading: Stopwatch, control

Heading: Connectivity
Airplane mode, control
Cellular data, control
Personal hotspot, control

Heading: Display and Brightness
Dark mode, control

Heading: Home
Home, control

Heading: Just Press Record
Toggle recording, control

Heading: Remote
Remote, control

Heading: Shortcuts
Shortcut, control
Open app, control

Heading: Sounds
Recognize music, control

Heading: Translate
Translate, control

Heading: Utilities
Flashlight, control
Calculator, control
Scan code, control
Magnifier, control

Heading: Voice Memos
Voice memo, control

Heading: Wallet
Wallet, control
Tap to cash, control

Heading: Watch
Ping my watch, control

Heading: Accessibility
Assistive access, control
Live speech, control

Heading: Hearing Accessibility
Music haptics, control
Left right stereo balance, control
Live captions, control

Heading: Motor Accessibility
Switch control, control
Voice control, control
Full keyboard access, control
Assistive touch, control
Apple Watch mirroring, control
Control nearby devices, control
Eye tracking, control

Heading: Vision Accessibility
Classic invert, control
Color filters, control
Live recognition, control
Increase contrast, control
Reduce motion, control
Reduce transparency, control
Reduce white point, control
Smart invert, control
Voiceover, control
Zoom, control
Speak screen, control
Dim flashing lights, control
Hover text, control
Hover typing, control


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

Question, if I can manage to alter my Lock Screen, could I put Bluetooth on it? 
My husband is forever using my phone, and I have to go in and turn off 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lyne
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

It seems to be easier by paper wall 

Lyne


Le 20 sept. 2024 à 09:49, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 a écrit :





I took the message that Sieghard had written and formatted it slightly 
and am pasting it here.


Adding/removing items on the lock screen


By Sieghard Weitzel

 

1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up. 

2. I did a double tap and hold on the time 

3. A menu came up with the following:

Link a focus, 

Collections, 

wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable 

Customize 

Add mew lock screen wall paper.

 

If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:

Customize wall paper, heading

Customize lock screen wall paper, button 

Customize home screen wall paper, button 

 

Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:

Cancel at the top left of the screen

Done at the top right of the screen

Calendar, 

date, 

top widget, button - this is your date display which is there by 
default 

Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default 

Depth effect, button - I think this lets you blur the background or 
something like that. 

Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark 

Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button 
for each If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something 
slightly different, but anyways you tap it and you ca

RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Carolyn Arnold]

That must be true with Bluetooth too? 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

And, as far as I can tell, phone nor messages are an option to have on the lock 
screen.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

Thanks, Richard, here a little more information, I had already added a widget 
below my time and date which are there by default and I left that out.

 

If you have added a widget it will be announced after the clock and date 
widgets and you can flick down to “Remove” if you want to remove it.

If you have not added anything, you will have an “Add Widget, button” below 
date and above the “Depth effect”.

I also just went ahead and deleted the Start/stop recording button from Just 
Press Record I had previously put in place of the Flashlight.

The button you are looking for if you want to add an app is called “Add quick 
action” and as I said, it only is available if you remove either Flashlight or 
Camera since you can only have two things there so when two apps are present 
the Add quick action is not therre because you can’t add more.

If it is there it will be right after the “Appearance” button.one of the 
appears 

 

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

I took the message that Sieghard had written and formatted it slightly and am 
pasting it here.


Adding/removing items on the lock screen


By Sieghard Weitzel

 

1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up. 

2. I did a double tap and hold on the time 

3. A menu came up with the following:

Link a focus, 

Collections, 

wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable 

Customize 

Add mew lock screen wall paper.

 

If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:

Customize wall paper, heading

Customize lock screen wall paper, button 

Customize home screen wall paper, button 

 

Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:

Cancel at the top left of the screen

Done at the top right of the screen

Calendar, 

date, 

top widget, button - this is your date display which is there by default 

Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default 

Depth effect, button - I think this lets you blur the background or something 
like that. 

Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark 

Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button for each 
If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something slightly 
different, but anyways you tap it and you can choose from a bunch of things, 
you can add Voice Memos, you can even add Voiceover, speak screen, calculator. 

In my case I have the Just Press Record app and you can add a start/stop 
recording button etc.

You can of course remove both items and then press done or whatever it is and 
not have anything on the bottom of the lock screen.

 

 

HTH,

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: 'Anna Rita de Bonis' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

Hello,

Could you please explain in detail how to do it?

How to remove the flashlight or camera?

Thanks,

Anna Rita de Bonis - Inviato da iPhone

 

Il giorno 20 set 2024, alle ore 07:23, Shai mailto:shai...@gmail.com> > ha scritto:



Hello Sieghard, 

Thank you for your email. I reviewed the message that you posted in 
regards to adding apps to the lock screen; however, my iPhone (an iPhone SE 
third generation) does not have the flashlight or camera on the lock screen not 
by my own doing but rather it never did. 

How would I add apps to the lock screen in this case? 

I am only able to see add widget and depth effect. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

You may want to review the thread as I have posted a message yesterday 
wi

RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

[Carolyn Arnold]

Question, if I can manage to alter my Lock Screen, could I put Bluetooth on it? 
My husband is forever using my phone, and I have to go in and turn off 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lyne
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

It seems to be easier by paper wall 

Lyne


Le 20 sept. 2024 à 09:49, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 a écrit :





I took the message that Sieghard had written and formatted it slightly 
and am pasting it here.


Adding/removing items on the lock screen


By Sieghard Weitzel

 

1. My phone was locked, I pressed the side button to wake it up. 

2. I did a double tap and hold on the time 

3. A menu came up with the following:

Link a focus, 

Collections, 

wall paper 1 of 2, adjustable 

Customize 

Add mew lock screen wall paper.

 

If you tap on "customize", you then get the following:

Customize wall paper, heading

Customize lock screen wall paper, button 

Customize home screen wall paper, button 

 

Now you double tap on "Customize lock screen wall paper" and you get:

Cancel at the top left of the screen

Done at the top right of the screen

Calendar, 

date, 

top widget, button - this is your date display which is there by 
default 

Clock widget, button - this is the time which is there by default 

Depth effect, button - I think this lets you blur the background or 
something like that. 

Appearance, button - here you can choose automatic, light or dark 

Next are the Flashlight and Camera icons and there is a remove button 
for each If you remove one you then get an Add button, it's called something 
slightly different, but anyways you tap it and you can choose from a bunch of 
things, you can add Voice Memos, you can even add Voiceover, speak screen, 
calculator. 

In my case I have the Just Press Record app and you can add a 
start/stop recording button etc.

You can of course remove both items and then press done or whatever it 
is and not have anything on the bottom of the lock screen.

 

 

HTH,

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: 'Anna Rita de Bonis' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

Hello,

Could you please explain in detail how to do it?

How to remove the flashlight or camera?

Thanks,

Anna Rita de Bonis - Inviato da iPhone





Il giorno 20 set 2024, alle ore 07:23, Shai mailto:shai...@gmail.com> > ha scritto:



Hello Sieghard, 

Thank you for your email. I reviewed the message that you 
posted in regards to adding apps to the lock screen; however, my iPhone (an 
iPhone SE third generation) does not have the flashlight or camera on the lock 
screen not by my own doing but rather it never did. 

How would I add apps to the lock screen in this case? 

I am only able to see add widget and depth effect. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

You may want to review the thread as I have posted a message 
yesterday with exact step by step instructions.

Calendar and Clock are, by the way, not apps, they are widgets. 
The only apps on the lock screen are Flashlight and Camera and you first have 
to remove one or both before you can add another.

Maybe somebody can repost my message, unfortunately I was just 
having a really quick look at the messages this morning, but I have to go to 
work right away so I can’t do it now.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Adding apps to loc screen iOS 18

 

Hello a

RE: Lock screen apps

[Carolyn Arnold]

I am not figuring why I would want to add anything to my locked screen. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

What apps are people adding to the lock screen?
I cannot manage to figure out how you get to the point of adding anything but 
wigits or wall paper.
I don't want Wigits getting in my way, at least not yet.

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

I probably need to mess with this more myself, but how do you double tap and 
hold on the lock screen? Whenever I double tap and hold on the screen, it 
brings up the clock, fitness app, camera and so on. I've tried double tapping 
and holding on a blank part of the lock screen but it's still bringing up one 
of the apps on the lock screen.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lock screen apps

Yes, just switched out the Flashlight icon with one to toggle recording for the 
Just Press Record app.
It is fairly straight forward, you double tap and hold on the lock screen and 
then tap on "Customize", just explore from there. You have to first remove one 
of the two bottom icons, Flashlight or Camera, before you have the "Add Quick 
Action" button appear where you can choose a different one.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
Marzec
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lock screen apps

Has anyone checked how to change default shortcuts on the lock screen for 
example from torch and camera to something else?
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

[Carolyn Arnold]

What are CerePlay voices? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Goshawk On Horseback
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: big problem with IOS 18.0 update on Iphone SE 2nd gen

By any chance, are you trying to use any of the CerePlay voices?
I ask this, as I recently attempted to use one of these on my 13 pro, and the 
result was so bad, that I had a lot of trouble even switching back to my 
previous voice.

Simon, the March Merman.


On 16 Sep 2024, at 21:08, Dan  wrote:



 

I updated and now my VO is producing loud static instead of the voice.  
It is so severe that I had to have my wife look at it to see if she could 
change the voice.  that did nothing to fix it.




I did power off and back on but this fixed it for about 30 seconds and 
it started the static again.




I am now going to connect to my laptop and restore my phone back to IOS 
17.7.




Anyone else having this issue yet?




Thanks.

 


-- 
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RE: Problem con Siri

[Carolyn Arnold]

I don't know why the guy told me that. You do have high mountains there; I 
remember from maps when in school. We just have hills where we are. Lately, for 
convenience sake, I have had Siri make more calls than in the past. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 3:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem con Siri

Sorry Caroline, but what have hills and woods to do with asking Siri to start a 
call?
I start calls with Siri all the time and I live right next to an 8,500 foot 
mountain; it makes no difference if you ask Siri to start a call or if you 
start the call from your contact list or if you use the keypad to dial the 
number, as long as you have a good enough cell signal your call will go 
through. Of course mountains will effect the cellular coverage in your area 
depending on how many towers there are, here in Northern BC where I live you 
loose cell coverage as soon as you are 20 or 30 minutes outside of town, then 
you have a deadspot and drive into the coverage area of the next town and so on.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problem con Siri

Here, there are hills and woods, and apparently in certain places, calls won't 
work with Siri, but will when done from the phone. At least, that has been true 
in my case. 

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donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Problem con Siri

Truthfully, I’ve had no problem with asking Siri to either call someone in my 
directory or by saying “call and then state the area code and number.  Is there 
another issue which could cloud what Siri hears?
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem con Siri
 
Hello,
 
Lately, Siri doesn’t understand when one ask her to make a call. I use this 
feature very seldom, but I have a sighted friend who needs to use Siri to make 
calls due to some health problem.
Does anyone know about any solution?
 
Rena
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

We both make three-way calls periodically, so she and I each knew not to hang 
up. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 3:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

Did you make sure to tell the first person to not hang up, I assume that after 
you pressed Add Caller the first person though the call had disconnected and 
they hung up.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

We both know how to do that, but when we pressed for Add Caller, it cut off the 
first one. Who knows why. Maybe it was a one time thing; I hope so. 

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Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Three-way calling.

Carolyn, the object of this is to hit the call, but select the person that you 
wanna call or type in their phone number. Tap on the phone number if you are 
selecting from a contact or if you're dialing the keypad hit the call button, 
once they pick up, then hitch the merge button. And then the two parties will 
be connected.

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk 
> three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, 
> could not complete the three-way call without losing the one on the 
> other line. Her mom has just a flip phone. I told Sharon that the 
> problem might be related to the latest update of 17.6.1.
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RE: Problem con Siri

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good point., But, I just listened to the guy and sickled on. Still, like I said 
in the earlier post, that did not solve the problem for the specific person. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem con Siri

Hey Caroline, when the guy at consumer cellular just told you to make the call 
yourself if Siri wouldn’t work, was letting Siri off the hook when you let Siri 
off the hook, it doesn’t fix the problem. Siri needs to be kept on the hook and 
made to stay on the hook, and people have to be told they need to fix it right 
here and right now you’re not a moment later. That is the way we get things 
fixed 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2024, at 2:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Rena, I don't use Siri for calls a lot. However, when I first got an iPhone, 
> I did, and in a down hill wooded area, simply could not get one done. So, the 
> guy at Customer Service for Consumer Cellular told me that if I tried Siri, 
> and a call would not go through, to make it myself, which I did, and it 
> worked. However, that is no good answer in this case. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rena
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Problem con Siri
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> Lately, Siri doesn’t understand when one ask her to make a call. I use this 
> feature very seldom, but I have a sighted friend who needs to use Siri to 
> make calls due to some health problem.
> 
> Does anyone know about any solution?
> 
> 
> 
> Rena
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RE: Problem con Siri

[Carolyn Arnold]

Here, there are hills and woods, and apparently in certain places, calls won't 
work with Siri, but will when done from the phone. At least, that has been true 
in my case. 

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donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Problem con Siri

Truthfully, I’ve had no problem with asking Siri to either call someone in my 
directory or by saying “call and then state the area code and number.  Is there 
another issue which could cloud what Siri hears?
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem con Siri
 
Hello,
 
Lately, Siri doesn’t understand when one ask her to make a call. I use this 
feature very seldom, but I have a sighted friend who needs to use Siri to make 
calls due to some health problem.
Does anyone know about any solution?
 
Rena
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RE: Problem con Siri

[Carolyn Arnold]

Rena, I don't use Siri for calls a lot. However, when I first got an iPhone, I 
did, and in a down hill wooded area, simply could not get one done. So, the guy 
at Customer Service for Consumer Cellular told me that if I tried Siri, and a 
call would not go through, to make it myself, which I did, and it worked. 
However, that is no good answer in this case. 

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Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem con Siri

Hello,

 

Lately, Siri doesn’t understand when one ask her to make a call. I use this 
feature very seldom, but I have a sighted friend who needs to use Siri to make 
calls due to some health problem.

Does anyone know about any solution?

 

Rena

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RE: Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

You don't have to hide, when getting to the Merge Button. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marda
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2024 12:07 AM
To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Three-way calling.

Oh that's even more clear.  Thanks, r
Richard.  As usual, you did a great job at clearly and sequentially explaining 
so now I can try it if I can fix my phone keyboard problem on my iPhone.

Marda

On 9/13/2024 1:06 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
> You know, you have to call person 1, use the hide button on the lower right 
> of the screen.
> Then, on the screen there is an add call button.
> You double tap that, call the second person, then, I don't recall if you have 
> to hide that one too to get back to the merge call button, but if you are 
> connecting three people, that is what is needed.
> So, Carolyn could call her friend with the iPhone,  then, that person could 
> hide the phone screen and use the add call button, etc.
>
>
> Richard, USA
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Three-way calling.
>
> Carolyn, the object of this is to hit the call, but select the person that 
> you wanna call or type in their phone number. Tap on the phone number if you 
> are selecting from a contact or if you're dialing the keypad hit the call 
> button, once they pick up, then hitch the merge button. And then the two 
> parties will be connected.
>
>> On Sep 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk 
>> three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, 
>> could not complete the three-way call without losing the one on the 
>> other line. Her mom has just a flip phone. I told Sharon that the 
>> problem might be related to the latest update of 17.6.1.
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RE: Three-way calling.

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No, after you have adderd a caller, you press Merge Calls. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

You know, you have to call person 1, use the hide button on the lower right of 
the screen.
Then, on the screen there is an add call button.
You double tap that, call the second person, then, I don't recall if you have 
to hide that one too to get back to the merge call button, but if you are 
connecting three people, that is what is needed.
So, Carolyn could call her friend with the iPhone,  then, that person could 
hide the phone screen and use the add call button, etc.


Richard, USA
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Three-way calling.

Carolyn, the object of this is to hit the call, but select the person that you 
wanna call or type in their phone number. Tap on the phone number if you are 
selecting from a contact or if you're dialing the keypad hit the call button, 
once they pick up, then hitch the merge button. And then the two parties will 
be connected.

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk 
> three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, 
> could not complete the three-way call without losing the one on the 
> other line. Her mom has just a flip phone. I told Sharon that the 
> problem might be related to the latest update of 17.6.1.
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

We both know how to do that, but when we pressed for Add Caller, it cut off the 
first one. Who knows why. Maybe it was a one time thing; I hope so. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Three-way calling.

Carolyn, the object of this is to hit the call, but select the person that you 
wanna call or type in their phone number. Tap on the phone number if you are 
selecting from a contact or if you're dialing the keypad hit the call button, 
once they pick up, then hitch the merge button. And then the two parties will 
be connected.

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk 
> three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, 
> could not complete the three-way call without losing the one on the 
> other line. Her mom has just a flip phone. I told Sharon that the 
> problem might be related to the latest update of 17.6.1.
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have too, with any kind of phone, but something didn't work last night. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Three-way calling.

It should have nothing to do with her landline. Either you or the other iPhone 
user would have to set it up. 
I've used it with no issues with a landline. 



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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 



On Sep 13, 2024, at 10:35 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
wrote:



You know, come to think of it, we were trying to call her on her 
landline. Of course, even if she has three-way capability, she wouldn't know 
how to do it. She is a retired teacher and a year younger than I am, but tends 
to stumble with anything the least techy. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

Have you done the three-way call with that person's flip phone before?
There is nothing in the 17.6.1 update that would cause this.


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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:30 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Three-way calling.

Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk 
three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, could not 
complete the three-way call without losing the one on the other line. Her mom 
has just a flip phone. I told Sharon that the problem might be related to the 
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

You know, come to think of it, we were trying to call her on her landline. Of 
course, even if she has three-way capability, she wouldn't know how to do it. 
She is a retired teacher and a year younger than I am, but tends to stumble 
with anything the least techy. 

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From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

Have you done the three-way call with that person's flip phone before?
There is nothing in the 17.6.1 update that would cause this.


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-Original Message-
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Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:30 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Three-way calling.

Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk three way. 
However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, could not complete 
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flip phone. I told Sharon that the problem might be related to the latest 
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RE: Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

No, we haven't. Interesting that it could be getting to her phone, obviously an 
Android type.l 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Three-way calling.

Have you done the three-way call with that person's flip phone before?
There is nothing in the 17.6.1 update that would cause this.


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Arnold
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:30 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Three-way calling.

Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted to talk three way. 
However, neither Sharon with her iPhone, nor me with mine, could not complete 
the three-way call without losing the one on the other line. Her mom has just a 
flip phone. I told Sharon that the problem might be related to the latest 
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Three-way calling.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Last night, my daughter-in-law and her mother and I wanted
to talk three way. However, neither Sharon with her iPhone,
nor me with mine, could not complete the three-way call
without losing the one on the other line. Her mom has just a
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RE: smaller phones

[Carolyn Arnold]

The big problem is sighted people's lack of interest in smaller screens.They 
are the major market. 

-Original Message-
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Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smaller phones

I agree. I like the way my 13 Mini fits in my pocket better than the standard 
sized iPhone 12 I had before did. And I also plan to hold on to it as long as I 
possibly can.

True, these smaller phones have smaller batteries, but for what I use mine for, 
my battery life is just fine.


One might be forgiven for thinking that a company valued at over 3 trillion 
dollars could give us more than, what? four or five choices of iPhone, and make 
one of them smaller, but one would apparently be mistaken about that.

Although, from what I have read, as Joshua pointed out, the 13 Mini did not 
sell great, it does have a pretty loyal fan base; and Apple could certainly 
afford to produce a greater variety of iPhones than they do.

How many choices of phones do Android users get? I really have no idea, but it 
is certainly a lot more than four or five.

Evan




On 9/9/2024 7:33 AM, Kerry Macdonald wrote:


I too hope that they will release another smaller phone in the near 
future. I love the size of my SE and I’m disappointed to learn that the new one 
will be about the size of an iPhone 14. I really want a smaller phone and will 
hold onto this one as long as it will update. I don’t understand the emphasis 
on these huge phones I get that sided folks like a larger screen, but there 
should be something available for those of us with smaller hands who like the 
smaller form factor.


Kerry 


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
  wrote:



 

Not this year and even the expected iPhone SE 4th generation 
will now be a larger phone most likely similar to a regular iPhone 16.

There are rumours about an iPhone 17 Air or iPhone 17 Slim or 
whatever Apple will call it a year from now, but whether this phone will 
actually be much smaller or simply a thinner phone nobody knows.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
   
  On Behalf Of Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: smaller phones

 

Just wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about a new mini 
type phone.  I really like the size of my 13 mini.  Just curious.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: Walmart, customer care phone number. It’s pasted in the body of the message.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yeah, thanks. I did send a later post realizing the sense of it. 

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Jenny Bomareto
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Walmart, customer care phone number. It’s pasted in the body of 
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Carolyn,

800 number that’s for Walmart Customer Care that I sent on August 26.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone 15


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All I'm seeing is a phone number. 

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Behalf Of Jenny Bomareto
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of the message.

1 (800) 925-6278



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RE: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

[Carolyn Arnold]

That makes sense. 

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portillo@gmail.com
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I don't believe so. I think it's the 16 pro that will have it.
At least, that's what I got from trying to look it up.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
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That was what I wonder, would the 16 have LiDAR? Not my problem, since I don't 
plan to update this year. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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Subject: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

I am sure there are a number of details which weren’t covered in the keynote, 
but simply based on what was said there definitely seems to be less of a reason 
for a blind person to buy an iPhone Pro or Pro Max as opposed to the regular 
iPhone 16 or 16 Plus. One thing I am curious about is whether LiDAR has made it 
to the regular iPhone 16 yet or if that is still a 16 Pro/Pro Max only feature, 
but many of the other differences with pictures and videos is possibly not as 
bog of a deal for a blind/visually impaired user and both phones now have the 
action and capture buttons. Seems like for a few years Apple really pushed the 
Pro phones with the next genration chip whereas the regular phones kept the 
previous year’s chip, this year the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus also have the new A18 
chip and while the Pro models have an A18 Pro chip which is even faster, I 
wonder  if that is really worth the extra money.

 

 

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RE: iPhone 16 vs iPhone 16 Pro - let the discussion begin

[Carolyn Arnold]

That was what I wonder, would the 16 have LiDAR? Not my problem, since I don't 
plan to update this year. 

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I am sure there are a number of details which weren’t covered in the keynote, 
but simply based on what was said there definitely seems to be less of a reason 
for a blind person to buy an iPhone Pro or Pro Max as opposed to the regular 
iPhone 16 or 16 Plus. One thing I am curious about is whether LiDAR has made it 
to the regular iPhone 16 yet or if that is still a 16 Pro/Pro Max only feature, 
but many of the other differences with pictures and videos is possibly not as 
bog of a deal for a blind/visually impaired user and both phones now have the 
action and capture buttons. Seems like for a few years Apple really pushed the 
Pro phones with the next genration chip whereas the regular phones kept the 
previous year’s chip, this year the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus also have the new A18 
chip and while the Pro models have an A18 Pro chip which is even faster, I 
wonder  if that is really worth the extra money.

 

 

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RE: smaller phones

[Carolyn Arnold]

The thing is that sighted people are more likely to want a larger screen. They 
are the majority of the market. 

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Joshua Hendrickson
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 You have a smaller phone, your battery life isn’t as good. I had to adjust 
when I got my 13 pro max. However, I wouldn’t go back to a smaller phone if I 
could. I think smaller phones are a thing of the past. I know the 13 mini 
didn’t sell all that well.

Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!


On Sep 9, 2024, at 6:33 AM, Kerry Macdonald  
wrote:




I too hope that they will release another smaller phone in the near 
future. I love the size of my SE and I’m disappointed to learn that the new one 
will be about the size of an iPhone 14. I really want a smaller phone and will 
hold onto this one as long as it will update. I don’t understand the emphasis 
on these huge phones I get that sided folks like a larger screen, but there 
should be something available for those of us with smaller hands who like the 
smaller form factor.


Kerry


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:



 

Not this year and even the expected iPhone SE 4th generation 
will now be a larger phone most likely similar to a regular iPhone 16.

There are rumours about an iPhone 17 Air or iPhone 17 Slim or 
whatever Apple will call it a year from now, but whether this phone will 
actually be much smaller or simply a thinner phone nobody knows.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: smaller phones

 

Just wondering if anyone has heard any rumors about a new mini 
type phone.  I really like the size of my 13 mini.  Just curious.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: Walmart, customer care phone number. It’s pasted in the body of the message.

[Carolyn Arnold]

All I'm seeing is a phone number. 

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1 (800) 925-6278



Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Carolyn Arnold]

I can understand about the battery, which was why I traded my SE1 for an 11. 

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James Bentley
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 11:12 AM
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The battery in the S E 3 just isn’t enough for me.  So, the S E 4 battery life 
will be worth it.

As far as the Apple Intelligence, I know nothing about that but the phone is 
obviously faster.

 

James B 

 

 

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Long
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

Not much at all.  The SE four is absolutely worth the upgrade if you have an SE 
3.  You will get apple intelligence which alone makes it worth it.  Never mind 
the better battery etc.  the battery in the SE 4 is more than double in size to 
what is in the SE 3.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

Does anybody know how much taller and wider this s E 4 will be compared to the 
S E 3?

I know that the screen size goes from 4.7 inches to 6.1 inches but is this a 
diagonal measurement or a measurement from top to bottom.  And, I am especially 
interested in the with.

 

Many thanks, 

James B 

 

James B 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.

You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?

On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:

I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a 
wonderful phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 
is 4279 ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing 
that you will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery 
will be what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this 
phone will work for most people.  

When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe Rossignol 
 

Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current 
iPhone SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest 
rumors about the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and 
launch timing.



Timing

The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 

 . In his Power On newsletter 

  last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.

Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The 
Information also previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the 
first quarter of 2025 

 , so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in October 
 .

Features

The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage 
and 4GB of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 
Bionic chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcom

RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Carolyn Arnold]

I not only do not miss a Home Button, given a choice, I would choose not to 
have one. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Nope if you read the article it said face id.  No home button.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch
 
Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?



On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a 
wonderful phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 
is 4279 ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing 
that you will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery 
will be what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this 
phone will work for most people.  
When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch
Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe Rossignol 
 
Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current 
iPhone SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest 
rumors about the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and 
launch timing.

Timing
The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 

 . In his Power On newsletter 

  last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The 
Information also previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the 
first quarter of 2025 

 , so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in October 
 .
Features
The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage 
and 4GB of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 
Bionic chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel 
rear camera, and a Lightning port.
The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:
*   6.1-inch OLED display
*   A18 chip
*   Face ID
*   USB-C port
*   Action button
*   Apple-designed 5G chip
*   A single 48-megapixel rear camera
*   8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence
Gurman believes the next iPhone SE will likely be priced in the $400 to 
$500 range, so the device would remain a lower-cost option in Apple's 
smartphone lineup, despite gaining a larger display and a more modern set of 
features.
Update — September 2024:
Japanese publication Nikkei Asia has since also reported 
  
that the iPhone SE 4 with an OLED display will be released in 2025.
 
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/05/when-to-expect-iphone-se-4/
 
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RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Carolyn Arnold]

It is diagonal. I do not know how much longer from top to bottom that will make 
the phone. I did really like my SE1, because it fit in more places than my 
bigger phones have. 

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James Bentley
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Does anybody know how much taller and wider this s E 4 will be compared to the 
S E 3?

I know that the screen size goes from 4.7 inches to 6.1 inches but is this a 
diagonal measurement or a measurement from top to bottom.  And, I am especially 
interested in the with.

 

Many thanks, 

James B 

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.

You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?



On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:

I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a 
wonderful phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 
is 4279 ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing 
that you will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery 
will be what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this 
phone will work for most people.  

When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe Rossignol 
 

Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current 
iPhone SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest 
rumors about the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and 
launch timing.



Timing

The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 

 . In his Power On newsletter 

  last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.

Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The 
Information also previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the 
first quarter of 2025 

 , so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in October 
 .

Features

The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage 
and 4GB of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 
Bionic chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel 
rear camera, and a Lightning port.

The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:

*   6.1-inch OLED display
*   A18 chip
*   Face ID
*   USB-C port
*   Action button
*   Apple-designed 5G chip
*   A single 48-megapixel rear camera
*   8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence

Gurman believes the next iPhone SE will likely be priced in the $400 to 
$500 range, so the device would remain a lower-cost option in Apple's 
smartphone lineup, despite gaining a larger display and a more modern set of 
features.

Update — September 2024:

Japanese publication Nikkei Asia has since also reported 
  
that the iPhone SE 4 with an OLED display will be released in 2025.

 

  

RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Carolyn Arnold]

Ron , the time is coming to say bye bye Home Buttons. I am pretty sure that the 
SE4 will not have one.
Frankly, I have never missed one. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 2:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?




On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:


I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a 
wonderful phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 
is 4279 ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing 
that you will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery 
will be what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this 
phone will work for most people.  

When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe Rossignol 
 

Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current 
iPhone SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest 
rumors about the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and 
launch timing.



Timing

The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 

 . In his Power On newsletter 

  last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.

Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The 
Information also previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the 
first quarter of 2025 

 , so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in October 
 .

Features

The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage 
and 4GB of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 
Bionic chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel 
rear camera, and a Lightning port.

The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:

*   6.1-inch OLED display
*   A18 chip
*   Face ID
*   USB-C port
*   Action button
*   Apple-designed 5G chip
*   A single 48-megapixel rear camera
*   8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence

Gurman believes the next iPhone SE will likely be priced in the $400 to 
$500 range, so the device would remain a lower-cost option in Apple's 
smartphone lineup, despite gaining a larger display and a more modern set of 
features.

Update — September 2024:

Japanese publication Nikkei Asia has since also reported 
  
that the iPhone SE 4 with an OLED display will be released in 2025.

 

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/05/when-to-expect-iphone-se-4/

 

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RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

[Carolyn Arnold]

I would not want a Home Button either, Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 3:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

As it will be a larger phone with Face Id I highly doubt it will have a home 
button.

You may as well get used to it as this is the way the technology is going and I 
would actually not want a home button any more even if I had the option as I 
find the gestures much more intuitive and easy.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

 

Hi Group,

I have both the second and third generation iPhone Se models. Not that I 
couldn't get used to operating without a home key, but I do like the idea that 
the SE versions still have a home key. Will the SE 4 have one?




On 9/6/2024 1:20 AM, Dennis Long wrote:

I will say unless you need the pro features this is going to be a 
wonderful phone.  There was another mac rumors article Battery in the iPhone 14 
is 4279 ma in the iPhone 15 pro it is 4290 MA.  That is not enough of a thing 
that you will notice.  Its 12 milliamp.   It is rumored the iPhone 14 battery 
will be what you get in the SE 4.  So if you get that or better again this 
phone will work for most people.  

When to Expect the iPhone SE 4 to Launch

Thursday September 5, 2024 2:19 pm PDT by Joe Rossignol 
 

Over two and a half years have passed since Apple released the current 
iPhone SE, so the device is due for an update. Below, we recap the latest 
rumors about the next-generation iPhone SE, including potential features and 
launch timing.



Timing

The latest word comes from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman 

 . In his Power On newsletter 

  last month, he said he expects the next iPhone SE to launch in the spring of 
2025. All three existing iPhone SE models were announced in March over the 
years, so it seems likely that the fourth-generation model will also be 
introduced in March next year.

Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and the technology publication The 
Information also previously claimed that the next iPhone SE will launch in the 
first quarter of 2025 

 , so that timeframe has been corroborated by multiple sources. The Information 
said that Apple suppliers would begin ramping up mass production of the device 
in October 
 .

Features

The current iPhone SE starts at $429 in the U.S. with 64GB of storage 
and 4GB of RAM. The device's key features include a 4.7-inch LCD display, A15 
Bionic chip, Touch ID, 5G support with a Qualcomm chip, a single 12-megapixel 
rear camera, and a Lightning port.

The next iPhone SE is rumored to have an iPhone 14-like design with the 
following features:

*   6.1-inch OLED display
*   A18 chip
*   Face ID
*   USB-C port
*   Action button
*   Apple-designed 5G chip
*   A single 48-megapixel rear camera
*   8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence

Gurman believes the next iPhone SE will likely be priced in the $400 to 
$500 range, so the device would remain a lower-cost option in Apple's 
smartphone lineup, despite gaining a larger display and a more modern set of 
features.

Update — September 2024:

Japanese publication Nikkei Asia has since also reported 
  
that the iPhone SE 4 with an OLED display will be released in 2025.

 

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/05/when-to-expect-iphone-se-4/

 

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RE: Nespresso machines

[Carolyn Arnold]

I just bought a Newhouse one-cup coffeemaker from Amazon. I bought it for a 
backup, but ended up deligating my Keureg for backup. This one is smaller, way 
smaller than my Keureg and Accessible, Accessible, Accessible! 

When you connect it, it makes one beep. When you turn it on, it makes one quick 
growl. It is quiet. Then you hear water dripping into the coffee cup, and when 
it has drips, the coffeemaker beeps five times, the kind of beep like my 
three-beep microwave makes. Another thing I like, it has a really heavy cord on 
it. The Mainstay that I wore out had a fairly light cord for something that 
heats. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nespresso machines

I would be interested in knowing the model of that Keurig as well. I have a 
coffee maker that makes ice coffee, but I would like to know of another machine 
because I’ve had this one for a long time and don’t know how long it will 
continue to last.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 2, 2024, at 8:51 PM, Tali Sarnetzky  
wrote:




Hi.

There is a Keurig machine which is easy to use. I don't remember the 
model, but I can check it for you. My friend has it and I used it myself when I 
visited. 
There are five sizes of drinks, the possibility to make cold drinks, 
and for coffee, you can use strong or not. 
No need for an app, although if you are not sure of something, you can 
call a volunteer on Be My Eyes. The digital screen is large and easy to see.

The only thing with Keurig is that every drink they make, from coffee 
to tea and apple cider, looks the same. So your friend will have to separate or 
label them.

Nespresso machines are usually simple to use. You can buy a simple one, 
which usually has only two buttons on the top: short and long. They make 
coffees and sometimes flavoured coffees, but nothing else.

Hope this helps. 

Cheers,
Tali 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 4:44 AM Jen . mailto:jencol...@hotmail.com> > wrote:


Hi I hope this is allowed to ask, but if not, my apologies.
A friend of mine who is totally blind is interested in an 
espresso machine I am interested in getting one for her as a birthday present, 
but I know nothing about them. I've read there are Wi-Fi machines and ones that 
do not run on Wi-Fi but other than that, have no idea, hoping someone in this 
group can shed some light for me.  What are the differences between these 
machines and a Keurig?  Which models are the best and why and would there be a 
particular model that would be easiest to operate if you have no vision?  Also 
did a search and found out there is an app. Is it accessible or not? Sorry for 
all the questions.  I am assuming Nespresso machines just make coffee or do 
they make other drinks as well?
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, that is what I liked about my 4S and SE; they were small. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

I really like my iPhone 8 and I will miss it when it is gone but I also really 
really liked the 5S that I had. I liked how small it was. I'm not looking 
forward to getting a much bigger phone.


On Aug 31, 2024, at 12:58 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:




My favorite iPhone was my iPhone 6 and my second favorite was my iPhone 
4S.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:49 PM, M. Taylor  
wrote:



Yes.

My favorite phone of them all was my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.

My second favorite was my iPhone 4 / 4S.

Mark


On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:33:37 AM UTC-7 Sieghard Weitzel 
wrote:


I don't quite agree with this list, while the 6 and 6 
Plus were the first larger phones, I think the 6S and 6S Plus as the second 
generation of that form factor so to speak were much better phones.

Although, I think the iPhone 4S which was the first 
phone to feature Siri should have been in this list.

I would definitely 

 

From: VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:57 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks 
for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

 

Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 
7 best iPhones of all time
With a new model around the corner, here are our 
favorite models over the past 17 years.
By Mahmoud Itani 
AUG 29, 2024

With almost every iPhone launch, Apple states how its 
latest flagship is the best it has ever created. While the company undoubtedly 
enhances its smartphone line with every annual upgrade, not all of its releases 
have been equally impactful. With the iPhone 16 debut less than two weeks away, 
it’s time to walk down memory lane and highlight the seven best iPhone models 
yet.

7. iPhone 5s (2013)
The iPhone 5s will always have a special place in my 
heart. For starters, it was the very first mainstream smartphone to feature a 
chip with a 64-bit architecture. At the time, many perceived the A7 chipset as 
overkill due to the simple phone tasks. Nevertheless, the shift pushed the 
industry forward and influenced Android phone makers, which followed suit soon 
after.
 
Speaking of green-bubbled devices, the iPhone 5s was 
also one of the first phones to feature a reliable fingerprint scanner. Back 
then, many Android phones prompted people to swipe on the sensor to 
authenticate, and they simply weren’t as dependable. Touch ID, on the other 
hand, required iPhone users to simply rest their fingertips on it, et voilà!
Beyond the performance, the iPhone 5s design is a 
timeless masterpiece that Apple repurposed with its initial iPhone SE release. 
It was the first iPhone to offer three finishes after years of being limited to 
a single color or two. It also was the last iPhone to offer a flat back, thanks 
to its bump-less rear camera. The iPhone 5s, in my opinion, was the epitome of 
smartphone design at the time. It was the result of extensive research and 
gradual improvements over the years. It also marked the end of a major iPhone 
era, as its successor changed the entire formula.

6. iPhone 6/6 Plus (2014)
A year after the iPhone 5s, it was time for Apple to 
think differently. The recipe was getting old, so it had to serve something 
completely new. The iPhone 6 debuted as the thinnest Apple smartphone yet and 
the first to offer customers two size options. The 4-inch format as out, in 
favor of 4.7- and 5.5-inch models.
 
Despite the infamous “Bendgate,” fiasco the iPhone 6 
attracted over 220 million customers, making it the best-selling smartphone to 
date. Its general design language continues to live on today through the iPhone 
SE 2.

5. iPhone 12 (2020)
By the time the iPhone 12 came around, the iPhone X was 
already three years old and 

RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

[Carolyn Arnold]

I plan to wait until at least the 17 comes out before replacing. I might wait 
until the 18; time will tell. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

I guess I am not that nostalgic, I like each new phone I have better than my 
old one because it's a little faster and usually has better battery life at 
least in the beginning and of course potentially new features.

I read quite a few articles in the tech publications where the authors think 
that next year is actually the year to upgrade because there will be more 
hardware changes with the iPhone 17 family than with the iPhone 16 family and 
they argue that many Apple Intelligence features will not be available until 
first or even second quarter of 2025 so then it will only be another 4 to 6 
months before the 2025 iPhones are released. They say it will be better to 
maybe look at the iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max this year as they should be offered 
at some good deals and they can run Apple Intelligence.

Personally for me there is no generic recipe which applies here. Whether you 
want to upgrade in the first place or not all depends on what phone you have 
now, whether it's financially not too hard for you and if Apple Intelligence 
interests you; I have talked to a few people who think that this will be a 
reason to switch to Android but then of course I remind them that Google is 
hard at work to bring all these AI features to Android as well and in the end I 
still trust Apple more with my privacy than I do Google.

Personally I can't wait for Apple Intelligence when it will be much more 
efficient to do stuff with your voice and to have Chat GPT behind Siri and all 
that. My wife and I both have an iPhone 13 Pro whih we bought a year after the 
iPhone 13 was released because at that point the iPhone 14 had the same chip as 
the 13 Pro and the 14 Pro just didn't interst me as much so we did go the less 
expensive route and got the prior year's model. This year if I upgrade at all I 
don't think I'll get an iPhone 15 Pro because I have a feeling the rumoured 
camera button willb e very handy and I believe it is also rumoured that the 
action button can be programmed to do more than what it can do so far. Not yet 
having a phone with a USB-C connection for me is also a big deal, of course 
here the iPhone 15 Pro would fulfill that requirement, but I can't wait until 
all my devices are USB-C and once I have a new iPhone they almost will be. I 
can't emphasise enough how nice it is when travelling to have only USB-C 
devices. My Thinkpad T16 charges via USB-C and I have a little foldable travel 
2-in-1 MagSafe charger for my iPhone and Apple Watch, also my Creative 
Soundblaster headset I mostly use with my laptop is USB-C as is my Sleep Phone 
headset I use for in bed.

For power I have a very compact GAN travel wall adapter from Hyperjuice which 
has a fold-out plug. It is capable of 240 Watts output, 1 USB-C port with 140 
Watts and 1 with 100 Watts and 1 USB-A port, can't remember the max output, but 
the 2 USB-C are more than enough to power my laptop and my MagSafe charger and 
a UsB-A to USB-C cable can be used for a headset or other device. I also have a 
Hyperjuice external battery with 26,000 MAH capacity and it's has 4 USB-C ports 
with 2 of them putting out 100 Watts so I can even charge my laptop from that 
battery; it's heavy, but a nice thing to have on a longer trip.

This means 3 items, the wall adapter, the battery and the MagSafe charger and 
then I usually also bring 3 cables: 1 long USB-C cable, 1 shorter one and one 
6-foot multi-use cable from Amazon which can plug either into a USB-A or USB-C 
port and on the other end it is USB-C with attached adapters for Lightning and 
Micro USB. It makes for a very small electronics bag and I love it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 9:49 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

 

Yes.

 

My favorite phone of them all was my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.

 

My second favorite was my iPhone 4 / 4S.

 

Mark

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:33:37 AM UTC-7 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I don't quite agree with this list, while the 6 and 6 Plus were the 
first larger phones, I think the 6S and 6S Plus as the second generation of 
that form factor so to speak were much better phones.

Although, I think the iPhone 4S which was the first phone to feature 
Siri should have been in this list.

I would definitely 

 

From: VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:57 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPh

RE: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have had a 4S, an 11, and a 14Pro. I can't say which was my favorite, could 
be my SE at that time, but I am not sure if I'd want one now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2024 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time: Macworld

My favorite iPhone was my iPhone 6 and my second favorite was my iPhone 4S.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:



Yes.

My favorite phone of them all was my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.

My second favorite was my iPhone 4 / 4S.

Mark


On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:33:37 AM UTC-7 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I don't quite agree with this list, while the 6 and 6 Plus were 
the first larger phones, I think the 6S and 6S Plus as the second generation of 
that form factor so to speak were much better phones.

Although, I think the iPhone 4S which was the first phone to 
feature Siri should have been in this list.

I would definitely 

 

From: VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2024 8:57 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 
7 best iPhones of all time: Macworld

 

Waiting for the iPhone 16? Check out our picks for the 7 best 
iPhones of all time
With a new model around the corner, here are our favorite 
models over the past 17 years.
By Mahmoud Itani 
AUG 29, 2024

With almost every iPhone launch, Apple states how its latest 
flagship is the best it has ever created. While the company undoubtedly 
enhances its smartphone line with every annual upgrade, not all of its releases 
have been equally impactful. With the iPhone 16 debut less than two weeks away, 
it’s time to walk down memory lane and highlight the seven best iPhone models 
yet.

7. iPhone 5s (2013)
The iPhone 5s will always have a special place in my heart. For 
starters, it was the very first mainstream smartphone to feature a chip with a 
64-bit architecture. At the time, many perceived the A7 chipset as overkill due 
to the simple phone tasks. Nevertheless, the shift pushed the industry forward 
and influenced Android phone makers, which followed suit soon after.
 
Speaking of green-bubbled devices, the iPhone 5s was also one 
of the first phones to feature a reliable fingerprint scanner. Back then, many 
Android phones prompted people to swipe on the sensor to authenticate, and they 
simply weren’t as dependable. Touch ID, on the other hand, required iPhone 
users to simply rest their fingertips on it, et voilà!
Beyond the performance, the iPhone 5s design is a timeless 
masterpiece that Apple repurposed with its initial iPhone SE release. It was 
the first iPhone to offer three finishes after years of being limited to a 
single color or two. It also was the last iPhone to offer a flat back, thanks 
to its bump-less rear camera. The iPhone 5s, in my opinion, was the epitome of 
smartphone design at the time. It was the result of extensive research and 
gradual improvements over the years. It also marked the end of a major iPhone 
era, as its successor changed the entire formula.

6. iPhone 6/6 Plus (2014)
A year after the iPhone 5s, it was time for Apple to think 
differently. The recipe was getting old, so it had to serve something 
completely new. The iPhone 6 debuted as the thinnest Apple smartphone yet and 
the first to offer customers two size options. The 4-inch format as out, in 
favor of 4.7- and 5.5-inch models.
 
Despite the infamous “Bendgate,” fiasco the iPhone 6 attracted 
over 220 million customers, making it the best-selling smartphone to date. Its 
general design language continues to live on today through the iPhone SE 2.

5. iPhone 12 (2020)
By the time the iPhone 12 came around, the iPhone X was already 
three years old and in need of a refresh. The iPhone 12 delivered it, with a 
new design and host of new features that belied its status as an entry-level 
phone.
 
After the iPhone XR and iPhone 11 were somewhat disappointing 
compared to their Pro counterparts, the iPhone 12 got it right. Among the 
upgrades Apple brought was a gorgeous flat-edged design that’s reminiscent of 
the beloved iPhone 4, the first OLED display in a non-Pro model, 5G networking, 
a powerful processor, and a slew of camera enhancements. It also had the very 
best blue c

RE: Light Detector app gone?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I use it from Seeing A I. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
vcollins5...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Light Detector app gone?

Have any of you tried to download the Light Detector app lately? With me here 
in the United States, I’m no longer able to get it from the app store, although 
I am still able to use it on two of my three iPhones.

 

When I couldn’t get any service on my iPhone 13 Mini on Tuesday, but I could 
get service on the 12 Mini, I somehow thought the problem was on my end and 
erased the 13 Mini and then restored it using the quick startup feature with my 
still working iPhone 12 Mini. Since all of my iPhones are set to be as much 
alike as their software will allow, I could do that. And while I still had no 
service on that iPhone after the first restore, I erased and tried again. And 
by that time, apparently AT&T had resolved the issue and I once again had 
service, but the Light Detector app just wasn’t available to me anymore. I was 
kind of surprised, though, as the app had indeed been available when I set up 
my iPhone 15 Pro in early June, but I was now told that the app was no longer 
available in the app store.

 

A couple of side notes here, just because. I still thought the problem was with 
my 13 Mini until I got a text message from AT&T today saying I would get a 
credit because of the outage on Tuesday. I then went and looked on the web and 
saw the story about the network issues on Tuesday.

 

Also, although I’m still using my two iPhone Mini phones right now, my iPhone 
15 Pro is all set up and ready to go once my iPhone 12 Mini battery gets to 80% 
and I send it back to Apple for an Apple gift card. Both of my Mini phones are 
showing the battery at 81% right now, so maybe I should go ahead and put in 
that request before the new iPhones come out and the trade-in values get lower. 
And, grin, I’m thinking my 13 Mini will likely take its trip to Apple a little 
after Black Friday.

 

Oh, one more thing, while I’m at it. As to why I have two active iPhones 
instead of just the one, remember, I don’t have any separate internet or cable 
here, which is my choice, but that means that anything I do along those lines 
is done with my iPhone, whether it be streaming or personal hotspot or 
whatever. And since I use the iPhone for practically everything, just one won’t 
last me all day, thus I want to have an iPhone available to move around with me 
while the other one is charging.

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RE: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and Volume

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks for that. I think I liked best 150%./ That is going to be really good. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Preview of a change coming in iOS 18 for Audio Ducking and Volume

Sample of new Audio Ducking and Volume settings in iOS 18

Below is about a 2 minute MP3 file demonstrating the effects of the new audio 
Ducking settings in iOS 18. The volume can be set up to 199% while Audio 
Ducking is on or set to While Speaking. That means that the volume of whatever 
is playing, music, phone menus at a bank, etc., or a book, will be lowered by 
roughly the amount the Volume is set to over 100%. I demonstrate what happens 
when the volume is set to 199%, 150% and 100% when music is playing.  I am 
using my iPad Mini 6 as since I don’t want to put betas on my iPhone in case 
there are serious issues.  

AudioDuckingSample-Coming-In-iOS18.mp3 
  

 

 

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

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to what strength looks like.  Which is to suggest that the measure of one's 
strength is based on who you beat down, instead of what we know the true 
measure of your strength is based on, who you lift up." --  Kamala Harris

 

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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

I stumbled on something last night with my air tag, and it told me to my right, 
six feet, four feet, until I found my reader. I liked that. I don't know what I 
did exactly, but I think if I did it once, I can again, and next time, I'll pay 
attention to how I did that. I did not know it had that capasbility. In the 
past, I just got that sort of sing sound, but I'd have to keep turning sound 
back on. I really liked the way it did yesterday. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about air tags

Hi no I agree from the demonstration that I herd on these air tags the sound is 
fairly quiate and like was said would be impossible to hear in a air port. Not 
only that but the sound is not continues it does shut up after a few minnits or 
maybe seconds. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: August 27, 2024 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about air tags

 

Maybe if you had a pet owl like in Harry Potter this would work, but there is 
no way a human even with the best hearing would hear an air tag inside a 
suitecase on a conveyer belt in the airport. I think even if it were dead quiet 
you wouyld have a hard time hearing it if it was inside a suitcase full of 
clothing.

 

From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

I thought about getting an AirTag to put in my suitcase when I travel by plane. 
The one thing I wasn’t sure of though is if I could hear the AirTag when I 
tapped my phone to make it play a sound. When your suitcase is going around on 
the conveyor belt at the airport, are you able to hear the AirTag so you can 
locate your suitcase on your own? 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Aug 18, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

You won't hear the sound anyways if there is any sort of noise. Even if 
it's sitting openly on a table outside you wouldn't hear it if you were 50 feet 
away.

As for the tracking it works just fine inside the suitecase.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

I am not sure how to answer your question. I imagine it difficult to 
work. This device is too tiny and its antenna may not pick up the signals 
inside a suitcase. Also if you are looking for your item, you may not be able 
to hear the sound if it is hidden inside a suitcase or backpack.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad





On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Mich Verrier mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > wrote:

 Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as 
far as attaching them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or 
something like that or into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked 
without the case question from Mich

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Yes you have to activate each of them individually. 
You also need to buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to 
your suitcases or the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag 
itself which is a tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have 
no case witha ring or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad





On Aug 18, 2024, at 2:36 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca 
  wrote:

 

Hi all I am planning a trip and have invested 
in a pack of 4 air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how 
to activate them with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one 
individualy?? If so that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich Verrier 
from New lIskeard Ontario Canada.

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RE: Retrieving a Deleted Phone Number

[Carolyn Arnold]

You can get a number you didn't answer on Missed Calls, but not a deleted 
number. I think it's gone bye bye, once it is deleted. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Retrieving a Deleted Phone Number

Hello Mike and All, 

 

Did you check in the missed calls options? 

I had this happen to me 2 times after I updated my phone, and I had to RESTORE 
DATA.  

Go to settings, Accounts, and backup Restore data, Choose your desired device 
backup, then select the Call logs option and tap on Restore.

This is what Apple had me to do, and I did get my calls bac that I didn’t 
answer, and I then got the phone number of the caller I wanted. 

My phone carrier also told me to do the same thing.  

I wasn’t very happy about having to go through all that, but I did need a phone 
number from a caller, and this was the only way I could get that.  

I hope this helps.  

 

 

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Retrieving a Deleted Phone Number

 

Yes, I went to my carrier's website and checked, but being it wasn't a phone 
call that my wife answered it didn't show in the all calls list.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 

From: Kenny Nead   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 2:31 AM

Subject: RE: Retrieving a Deleted Phone Number

 

I think that your carrier has a record of every call, might try calling the 611 
number.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2024 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Retrieving a Deleted Phone Number

 

My wife was receiving the call, not calling someone, and there wasn't a voice 
mail left, so this wasn't an option.  Thank you very much for your reply.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 

From: lang...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2024 4:39 PM

Subject: RE: Retrieving a Deleted Phone Number

 

Hi Mike,

You wrote:

 

Hi All,

 

Running iOS17.6.1 on an SE2022.  My wife accidentally deleted a phone number 
she was trying to as to her contacts from the Recents folder.  Is it possible 
to retrieve a deleted contact from the Recents folder?  If so, how can it be 
done?  

 

If the call was accidentally deleted and if the person that your wife called 
has left a voicemail, you can hopefully see the voicemail in the Voicemail tab 
of the Phone app. Tap on the Voicemail tab to bring up the list of voicemails 
and locate the voicemail message from the person in question. Each voicemail 
will have a More Info option. Tap on that. You should then see an option to 
create a new contact further down the screen. Tap that and you should then see 
the New Contacts screen with the usual fields for first name, last name, et 
cetera et cetera. . Fill in as appropriate, then tap the Done button when 
you’re finished. Problem solved. 

   

Also, is there an incoming call log somewhere on the phone and if so, how would 
I access it?

 

There is no Incoming Calls list per se, only a Recents tab, which includes all 
Recent calls and and Missed calls.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Tom

Go Dodgers! 

 

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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a 14 Pro, and I have to keep on turning on Sound. It gives one signal 
and no more unless I keep turning it on, very annoying. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2024 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about air tags

AirTags use a wideband Bluetooth protocol that’s fairly directional, and for 
iPhones, newer than the iPhone 12 you should be able to clearly closely detect 
the location of the AirTag without sound. The  iPhone vibrates when you pointed 
in the direction of the AirTag.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 21, 2024, at 10:20 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:



 
in that case I would recommend you put it in like a side pocket made of 
mesh, or a front pocket if you don't want to get clips for them, not sure how 
hard it will be to track if the AirTag is buried in a suitcase.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Cris Ali  
wrote:



 I am not sure how to answer your question. I imagine it 
difficult to work. This device is too tiny and its antenna may not pick up the 
signals inside a suitcase. Also if you are looking for your item, you may not 
be able to hear the sound if it is hidden inside a suitcase or backpack.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad


On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Mich Verrier 
 wrote:



 Well, thanks for answering the questions about the 
AirTags as far as attaching them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack 
or something like that or into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked 
without the case question from Mich

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali 
 wrote:



 Yes you have to activate each of them 
individually. You also need to buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able 
to attach to your suitcases or the items you need to track. What you get is 
just the tag itself which is a tiny little round device, but what to do with it 
if you have no case witha ring or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 18, 2024, at 2:36 AM, 
mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:



 

Hi all I am planning a trip and have 
invested in a pack of 4 air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video 
on how to activate them with vo. My question is do you have to activate every 
one individualy?? If so that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich 
Verrier from New lIskeard Ontario Canada.



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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

I can understand about Air Tags in a noisy air port. I know I'd never be able 
to hear the thing. 

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k...@axistech.net
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2024 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about air tags

The Air tag will track your suitcase just fine even if it is inside the 
suitcase. I have never found the sound emitted by the air tag to be loud enough 
in a crowded airport to hear so I can find the suitcase by myself regardless of 
where it is.

 

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From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

I thought about getting an AirTag to put in my suitcase when I travel by plane. 
The one thing I wasn’t sure of though is if I could hear the AirTag when I 
tapped my phone to make it play a sound. When your suitcase is going around on 
the conveyor belt at the airport, are you able to hear the AirTag so you can 
locate your suitcase on your own? 

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 18, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

You won't hear the sound anyways if there is any sort of noise. Even if 
it's sitting openly on a table outside you wouldn't hear it if you were 50 feet 
away.

As for the tracking it works just fine inside the suitecase.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

I am not sure how to answer your question. I imagine it difficult to 
work. This device is too tiny and its antenna may not pick up the signals 
inside a suitcase. Also if you are looking for your item, you may not be able 
to hear the sound if it is hidden inside a suitcase or backpack.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad






On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Mich Verrier mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > wrote:

 Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as 
far as attaching them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or 
something like that or into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked 
without the case question from Mich

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Yes you have to activate each of them individually. 
You also need to buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to 
your suitcases or the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag 
itself which is a tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have 
no case witha ring or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad






On Aug 18, 2024, at 2:36 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca 
  wrote:

 

Hi all I am planning a trip and have invested 
in a pack of 4 air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how 
to activate them with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one 
individualy?? If so that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich Verrier 
from New lIskeard Ontario Canada.

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RE: Cell phone with Tactile buttons

[Carolyn Arnold]

I think they can set you up with a carrier too, and the good thing about 
Accessible Electronics is that whatever you get from them is ready to use along 
with tutorials. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cell phone with Tactile buttons

It is available on Accessible electronics, and they have pretty good prices and 
discounts.  


On Aug 19, 2024, at 1:51 PM, aruell via VIPhone 
 wrote:





If he can find a way to afford it, perhaps using a payment plan, I 
would suggest the Blind Shell Classic 2.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Louise Peyton
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cell phone with Tactile buttons

 

Hi:  You might want to check the Blind Shell phone which speaks when 
you touch the buttons.  Not sure who sells it or the cost.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann 
M Medlar
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Cell phone with Tactile buttons

 

Hi all,

My friend who is totally blind asked me if I knew a cell phone with 
tactile buttons.  

He lives in Ohio and does not have much financial means.

All suggestions appreciated.

Thank you,

Ann 

 

 

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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, I'll try Siri next time. Thanks for that tip. 

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I haven't actually lost something yet so haven't had to do it. You can just 
say, siri, find my keys, or find my wallet or whatever, and the tags sound will 
play. If you have a phone with Lidar it's even more fun cause you can use the 
phone to guide you to the tag.

Chris Judge






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Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 8:53 PM
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What do you do to keep the sound going, Chris? 

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I keep one in my wallet, one in each of my backpacks and one in my travel bag. 
I just tucked them in a pocket and they work fine. I also have a holder for the 
one on my keys.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as far as attaching 
them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or something like that or 
into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked without the case question 
from Mich

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Yes you have to activate each of them individually. You also need to 
buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to your suitcases or 
the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag itself which is a 
tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have no case witha ring 
or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad





On Aug 18, 2024, at 2:36 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca 
<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>  wrote:

 

Hi all I am planning a trip and have invested in a pack of 4 
air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how to activate them 
with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one individualy?? If so 
that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich Verrier from New lIskeard 
Ontario Canada.

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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is great to know, Joseph! 

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Joseph Hudson
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You don't have to replace the AirTag itself, you just have to replace the 
battery. I actually googled it and found what size they take and I told my mom. 
But I'd have to re-google it again and tell you exactly what size it is. 
There's a YouTube video, on what to get the air tank come apart so that you can 
replace the battery.

> On Aug 18, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My complaint about air tags is that sound doesn't keep sounding until I find 
> my item. I have to keep turning it on. I'm not sure I'll replace them, when 
> they die. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: question about air tags
> 
> You won't hear the sound anyways if there is any sort of noise. Even if it's 
> sitting openly on a table outside you wouldn't hear it if you were 50 feet 
> away.
> 
> As for the tracking it works just fine inside the suitecase.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 6:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question about air tags
> 
> 
> 
> I am not sure how to answer your question. I imagine it difficult to work. 
> This device is too tiny and its antenna may not pick up the signals inside a 
> suitcase. Also if you are looking for your item, you may not be able to hear 
> the sound if it is hidden inside a suitcase or backpack.
> 
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
>    Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as far as 
> attaching them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or something 
> like that or into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked without the 
> case question from Mich
> 
>   Sent from my iPhone
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
>   On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali  
> wrote:
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>    Yes you have to activate each of them individually. You also 
> need to buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to your 
> suitcases or the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag itself 
> which is a tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have no 
> case witha ring or a clip to attach to items?
> 
>   Sent from my iPad
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
>   On Aug 18, 2024, at 2:36 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
>    
> 
>   Hi all I am planning a trip and have invested in a pack 
> of 4 air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how to 
> activate them with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one 
> individualy?? If so that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich 
> Verrier from New lIskeard Ontario Canada.
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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

What do you do to keep the sound going, Chris? 

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I keep one in my wallet, one in each of my backpacks and one in my travel bag. 
I just tucked them in a pocket and they work fine. I also have a holder for the 
one on my keys.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as far as attaching 
them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or something like that or 
into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked without the case question 
from Mich

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Yes you have to activate each of them individually. You also need to 
buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to your suitcases or 
the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag itself which is a 
tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have no case witha ring 
or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad





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air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how to activate them 
with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one individualy?? If so 
that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich Verrier from New lIskeard 
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RE: question about air tags

[Carolyn Arnold]

I can hear mine in my purse. 

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Cris Ali
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I am not sure how to answer your question. I imagine it difficult to work. This 
device is too tiny and its antenna may not pick up the signals inside a 
suitcase. Also if you are looking for your item, you may not be able to hear 
the sound if it is hidden inside a suitcase or backpack.

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On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:



 Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as far as 
attaching them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or something like 
that or into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked without the case 
question from Mich

Sent from my iPhone


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 Yes you have to activate each of them individually. You also 
need to buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to your 
suitcases or the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag itself 
which is a tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have no case 
witha ring or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad


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Hi all I am planning a trip and have invested in a pack 
of 4 air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how to activate 
them with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one individualy?? If 
so that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich Verrier from New lIskeard 
Ontario Canada.



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RE: accessible blood pressure monitor

[Carolyn Arnold]

Kevin sells talking ones for around $25. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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Why would you spend $200? I just checked and even here in Canada and in 
Canadian Dollars the Qardio Arm 2 which I guess is an updated model of the 
original is $119 Canadian which would be less than $100 US. The only thing is 
that it says it is currently sold out and even the link I found to Amazon 
Canada says it is currently unavailable so not sure if a new ve3rsion is coming 
or what is going on. Anyways, we bought one many years ago so I'm personally 
not in the market, but it definitely shouldn't cost $200 especially if you are 
in the US.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 3:44 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: accessible blood pressure monitor

 

Hi,

 

I am looking for an accessible blood pressure monitor that sincs with my iPhone.

 

I have read reviews of the QuardioArm on this list in the past and would go 
that route but don't really want to spend $200 for it.

 

Has anyone tried the Withings BPM Connect - Digital Blood Pressure Cuff & Heart 
Rate Monitor - Blood Pressure Machine Arm Cuff, FDA Cleared, FSA/HSA Eligible, 
IOS?  It is only $100.00 on amazon.  Just wondering if the iOs app is 
accessible?

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Sincerely,

Donald


 

Sincerely,

Donald Raikes, CPACC

Accessibility Specialist

IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core  

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RE: question about air tags

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My complaint about air tags is that sound doesn't keep sounding until I find my 
item. I have to keep turning it on. I'm not sure I'll replace them, when they 
die. 

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Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about air tags

You won't hear the sound anyways if there is any sort of noise. Even if it's 
sitting openly on a table outside you wouldn't hear it if you were 50 feet away.

As for the tracking it works just fine inside the suitecase.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about air tags

 

I am not sure how to answer your question. I imagine it difficult to work. This 
device is too tiny and its antenna may not pick up the signals inside a 
suitcase. Also if you are looking for your item, you may not be able to hear 
the sound if it is hidden inside a suitcase or backpack.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad





On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:

 Well, thanks for answering the questions about the AirTags as far as 
attaching them couldn’t I just throw one in to say a backpack or something like 
that or into a suitcase and it still be able to be tracked without the case 
question from Mich

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 18, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Cris Ali  
wrote:

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need to buy each of them a holder with a ring to be able to attach to your 
suitcases or the items you need to track. What you get is just the tag itself 
which is a tiny little round device, but what to do with it if you have no case 
witha ring or a clip to attach to items?

Sent from my iPad





On Aug 18, 2024, at 2:36 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

 

Hi all I am planning a trip and have invested in a pack 
of 4 air tags for the trip. I have all ready watched a video on how to activate 
them with vo. My question is do you have to activate every one individualy?? If 
so that is fine I just thought I would ask. From Mich Verrier from New lIskeard 
Ontario Canada.

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I would not think that the iPhone 3 is the problem or that replacing it would 
solve the problem. 

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Hi, 

Siri stops in the middle of writing a message for me. It cuts off or says, 
"Something went wrong—please try again." ​ —I thought it was my phone and was

I am using an SE3 and wonder if I should buy a new phone, but hope not to need 
to.
Shirley Tracy

  


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Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2024 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Siri Interrupting Herself
 

Hello, this is not a dictation accuracy problem, but rather, Siri stumbling 
over herself.  While providing an answer, she will seem to start listening 
again in the middle of the answer.

It happens quite frequently with IOS 17.6 and iPhone 14 Pro.

Curious to know if others are experiencing this?

Thanks a lot.

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RE: Forwarding multiple emails?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Right, Simon, my exact question. 

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How is one supposed to do that on the iPhone, which doesn’t have those keys?

Simon, the March Merman.

> On 6 Aug 2024, at 02:09, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Sure, while in your inbox, hold the shift key and use the arrow keys to 
> select your messages you want to forward and hit control+c.  to copy them to 
> the clipboard. Now open a new message and hit control+v to paste them into 
> your message. Of course, this assumes your messages are contiguous.
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> 
> Hello all, don't want to go into too many details, but I need to send about 
> 10 emails to one specific email address. Is there any way on the iPhone, that 
> I can send them all in the one message, rather than having to forward each 
> one individually? Hope that makes sense.
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RE: Forwarding multiple emails?

[Carolyn Arnold]

What if you don't have a Bluetooth keyboard, but just use the phone keyboard? 

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Sure, while in your inbox, hold the shift key and use the arrow keys to select 
your messages you want to forward and hit control+c.  to copy them to the 
clipboard. Now open a new message and hit control+v to paste them into your 
message. Of course, this assumes your messages are contiguous.

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Hello all, don't want to go into too many details, but I need to send about 10 
emails to one specific email address. Is there any way on the iPhone, that I 
can send them all in the one message, rather than having to forward each one 
individually? Hope that makes sense.

Simon, the March Merman.

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RE: a bard question

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is what it does for me, just brings up the book I punched in and no more. 

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Yes you can. Just go to the search edit field and put in the book number. Items 
matching the book number will then be displayed. I just tried it with the 
search by keyword option selected, and it worked. It showed me the exact book 
that I was looking for.


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Hi all.I’m wondering if you can search for a book by number when in the 
get books setting of Bard.  I don’t see that option.  Thanks. 

God bless!

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RE: a bard question

[Carolyn Arnold]

You just go to Search the , I forget, but it is 2 pressed up twice from when 
you get in. Then, when you write in what you what, press Book Marker Key, and 
it will say numbers, and you type in the number of the book you want. 

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Hi all.I’m wondering if you can search for a book by number when in the get 
books setting of Bard.  I don’t see that option.  Thanks. 

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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RE: Texting

[Carolyn Arnold]

Why anyone would want that feature is beyond me. 

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It is in Settings > iMessage, but it is entirely up to the recipient whether 
they want you to know if they read the message or not.

You can turn it on, but if you exchange an iMessage with somebody who does not 
turn it on because they don't want others to see if they read a message or not, 
then there is nothing you can do about it.

It also works only with iMessages and not with regular text messages. Maybe 
once iOS 18 is out and RCS support is widely added by all carriers, this will 
also work if you send a message to an Android phone, but while I do see "RCS" 
when I send text messages to some of my contacts using the iOS 18 Beta, I don't 
think I have seen a confirmation it has been delivered or read.

 

From: 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2024 11:35 AM
To: VIPhone (viphone@googlegroups.com) 
Subject: Texting

 

Hi All, 

 

I thought their used to be a setting to notify you when someone has read your 
text. If yes, would someone be able to remind me where this setting is located?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Thank You, 

Steve Cook, CPM

Statewide Services Manager

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate Avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

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RE: Thomas Donville's podcast?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is good news, Anna. 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:07 PM
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Hello,

Thomas said he will continue to podcast and will post on social media when he 
has his new podcast set up.

Best,
Anna



On Jul 28, 2024, at 12:48 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

There isn’t much there right now.
I have no idea if he will continue it separate from AppleVis…
Time will tell.
 
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Thomas Donville's podcast?
 
That's it! Yes I knew it had something to do with In the Dark! Thanks 
for this! I'll definitely go and follow it on Overcast!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



El 28 jul 2024, a la(s) 11:06 a.m., 'Richard Turner' via 
VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > escribió:


One of his podcasts is called Seeing in the Dark, this is what 
I found in Overcast:
 
Seeing in the Dark is geared towards blind or visually impaired 
individuals. Your host, Thomas Domville (aka: AnonyMouse), will demonstrate and 
detail iOS, Windows, and other technology software, products, and services from 
a blind perspective.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
 
 
(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 
 



On Jul 28, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Joseph Hudson 
mailto:jhud7...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I know you can look him up on X, he occasionally post 
his content there. And maybe you could ask him what the podcast is called.




On Jul 27, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

With the closing of "AppleVis", I hope Thomas 
Donville continues to produce his podcast!, especially during the beginning of 
September when he reviews the new iOS features! But for the life of me, I just 
can't remember what the podcast is called, to subscribe to it! I was on there 
before, but because it was a repeat of AppleVis, I saw no sense in being there, 
but now that Applevis is closing...

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de 
Telcel

 

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RE: Applevis Site

[Carolyn Arnold]

Incidentally, as for email and Hadley, I get emails from them regularly, but 
can't get anything to last, if I try to get a tutorial or program. Right now, 
they're not worth my time. 

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Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 3:09 PM
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Which group are you trying to apply to? Maybe I can research and see if it's 
still exist.

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I did ck my spam folder.
> 
> Jenn
> Jennie Facer
> To the world you are someone, but to someone you are the world!
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 11:44 AM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> No, there's no limit. I've never had any issues. Did you ever check your 
>> spam folder. I was originally trying to help Carolyn.
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 6:49 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Joseph,
>>> 
>>> I was able to sign up with my jennnie.fa...@gmail.com The email I 
>>> wanted to use was pup...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> I sent like four emails to subscribe from the Puppy email address, and I 
>>> would never get the message to reply. Do you think I am limited on how many 
>>> groups.io groups I can subscribe to with that email?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> To the world you are someone, but to someone you are the world!
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2024, at 10:28 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Which email address do you want signed up? I might be able to help you 
>>>> fix that problem. With a little luck. I always seem to have magic.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Without Applevis, plus Hadley, I'd have never learned to use my phone. I 
>>>>> can't get into Hadley now, have gone through the fields to sign up plus 
>>>>> have called Hadley on the phone to get signed up, but no go. I'm just 
>>>>> glad I got them as long as I did.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:53 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Applevis Site
>>>>> 
>>>>> It needs to be saved.  We as a community need to come together.  Without 
>>>>> Applevis I never would’ve gotten my first iPhone.  It is invaluable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Marda
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:39 PM
>>>>> To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agreed.  There was something in the article, after telling us that it 
>>>>> would be taken down, that it was on read only status and tsomething like 
>>>>> "as the editorial staff consider other options"  (paraphrase, not an 
>>>>> exact quote) but I am thinking they would be open to keeping it up if 
>>>>> someone qualified technically and otherwise to run the site could be 
>>>>> found who would be willing to put in all that work on a voluntary basis, 
>>>>> either one person or possibly a group who had the proper skills.  I truly 
>>>>> hope they find a way to keep it up because the site has provided a wealth 
>>>>> of information to me as I have begun my journey through the apple world.  
>>>>> It was recommended to me and the first place on the web that I went 
>>>>> seeking information about how to use my iPhone and apple watch.  (Still 
>>>>> working on that one.)  I was unaware that such things as the podcasts and 
>>>>> articles could be downloaded but someone mentioned that in a message.  Is 
>>>>> this true?  We can save things from applevis?  if it absolutely has to be 
>>>>> taken down can or will it be put in the wwayback machine on the internet 
>>>>> archive so at least current content could be accessed?
>>>>> Marda
>>>>> On 7/28/2024 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>>>>> To be extra clear, David said it would go away after August 31st if n

RE: Applevis Site

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I have dealt with them on the phone and gone through the fields on 
their site twice. Right now, with all going on with Jim and all, I don't intend 
to bother with them, at least for the time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applevis Site

I was trying to help you get signed up for the Hadley stuff. That's what I mean.

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 12:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't need an email address. Thanks. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
> 
> Which email address do you want signed up? I might be able to help you fix 
> that problem. With a little luck. I always seem to have magic.
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Without Applevis, plus Hadley, I'd have never learned to use my phone. I 
>> can't get into Hadley now, have gone through the fields to sign up plus have 
>> called Hadley on the phone to get signed up, but no go. I'm just glad I got 
>> them as long as I did. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Applevis Site
>> 
>> It needs to be saved.  We as a community need to come together.  Without 
>> Applevis I never would’ve gotten my first iPhone.  It is invaluable.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marda
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:39 PM
>> To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>> 
>> Agreed.  There was something in the article, after telling us that it would 
>> be taken down, that it was on read only status and tsomething like "as the 
>> editorial staff consider other options"  (paraphrase, not an exact quote) 
>> but I am thinking they would be open to keeping it up if someone qualified 
>> technically and otherwise to run the site could be found who would be 
>> willing to put in all that work on a voluntary basis, either one person or 
>> possibly a group who had the proper skills.  I truly hope they find a way to 
>> keep it up because the site has provided a wealth of information to me as I 
>> have begun my journey through the apple world.  It was recommended to me and 
>> the first place on the web that I went seeking information about how to use 
>> my iPhone and apple watch.  (Still working on that one.)  I was unaware that 
>> such things as the podcasts and articles could be downloaded but someone 
>> mentioned that in a message.  Is this true?  We can save things from 
>> applevis?  if it absolutely has to be taken down can or will it be put in 
>> the wwayback machine on the internet archive so at least current content 
>> could be accessed?
>> Marda
>> On 7/28/2024 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>>  To be extra clear, David said it would go away after August 31st if no 
>> other option is found.
>>  While it is a slim chance this will happen, as it says in one of our 
>> favorites songs from Spamalot, it is “not dead yet.”
>>   
>>  Richard, USA
>>  "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>>  SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>>  -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>   
>>  My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>   
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>>  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
>> Alan Lemly
>>  Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 9:12 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>  Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>>   
>>  Also, be aware that according to David Goodwin's blog post about the 
>> closure of AppleVis that the site will go from read only to removed 
>> completely after August 31, 2024. 
>>   
>>  Allen Lemly 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>   
>>  On Jul 28, 2024, at 11:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>>   
>>  The site is read only now, the contact form is no longer 
>> available, e

RE: Applevis Site

[Carolyn Arnold]

I don't need an email address. Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Applevis Site

Which email address do you want signed up? I might be able to help you fix that 
problem. With a little luck. I always seem to have magic.

> On Jul 29, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Without Applevis, plus Hadley, I'd have never learned to use my phone. I 
> can't get into Hadley now, have gone through the fields to sign up plus have 
> called Hadley on the phone to get signed up, but no go. I'm just glad I got 
> them as long as I did. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Applevis Site
> 
> It needs to be saved.  We as a community need to come together.  Without 
> Applevis I never would’ve gotten my first iPhone.  It is invaluable.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marda
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:39 PM
> To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
> 
> Agreed.  There was something in the article, after telling us that it would 
> be taken down, that it was on read only status and tsomething like "as the 
> editorial staff consider other options"  (paraphrase, not an exact quote) but 
> I am thinking they would be open to keeping it up if someone qualified 
> technically and otherwise to run the site could be found who would be willing 
> to put in all that work on a voluntary basis, either one person or possibly a 
> group who had the proper skills.  I truly hope they find a way to keep it up 
> because the site has provided a wealth of information to me as I have begun 
> my journey through the apple world.  It was recommended to me and the first 
> place on the web that I went seeking information about how to use my iPhone 
> and apple watch.  (Still working on that one.)  I was unaware that such 
> things as the podcasts and articles could be downloaded but someone mentioned 
> that in a message.  Is this true?  We can save things from applevis?  if it 
> absolutely has to be taken down can or will it be put in the wwayback machine 
> on the internet archive so at least current content could be accessed?
> Marda
> On 7/28/2024 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>   To be extra clear, David said it would go away after August 31st if no 
> other option is found.
>   While it is a slim chance this will happen, as it says in one of our 
> favorites songs from Spamalot, it is “not dead yet.”
>
>   Richard, USA
>   "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>   SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>   -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>
>   My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
>   Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 9:12 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>   Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>
>   Also, be aware that according to David Goodwin's blog post about the 
> closure of AppleVis that the site will go from read only to removed 
> completely after August 31, 2024. 
>
>   Allen Lemly 
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>   On Jul 28, 2024, at 11:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>    
>   The site is read only now, the contact form is no longer 
> available, e.g. it says 
>
>   Status message
>   Sorry… This form is closed to new submissions.
>
>   Having said this, if any of the Applevis people read this, it 
> might be an idea to approach Apple directly and ask if they would 
> host/maintain the site and by doing so allow the editorial team and other 
> contributors to continue.
>
>   From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
>   Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 1:47 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>   Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>
>   https://www.applevis.com/contact
>
>
>   Richard, USA
>   "Reality is the leading

RE: drop in volume

[Carolyn Arnold]

Have you called Apple Accessibility? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: drop in volume

Yes and this temporarily fixes the problem but then it comes back.

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: drop in volume

Have yall powered your phones off, then back on? Simple question, my guess is 
that you have. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: drop in volume

I close and reopen seeing A I.

I hope Apple fixes this.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: drop in volume

 

Are you able to rectify it, James, other than just turning up the volume switch?

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 12:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: drop in volume

 

I have this same problem with Seeing A I.

I’m using IOS 17.5.1 on a S E 3rd gen.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: drop in volume

 

Recently my iPhone suddenly drops in volume, especially when using Duo Lingo, a 
language learning app. 

I’m pretty sure it isn’t a Voiceover issue and if I turn up the volume via the 
phone’s switch, then the volume increases and then later, I have to turn it 
back down when normal volume resumes. 

Is anyone else having this issue?

Alison

 

From: 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all 
afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was 
talking about iMessage, but when I finally, got her thinking email, she said 
that there is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an 
idea of when the problem will be solved.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?

 

That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.

 

On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having 
the exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email 
settings, but so far, I haven’t found any problems. I have also had her send 
email to two of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they 
are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iCloud mail question?

 

Hello,

 

I wonder if anyone can assist me here.

 

A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud 
mail without success.

 

We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  
We are unable to receive any of the messages that we have sent to a variety of 
e-mail services including my own domain.

 

On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders 
although they never arrive.  We get no error messages either.

 

On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.

 

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

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RE: drop in volume

[Carolyn Arnold]

Have yall powered your phones off, then back on? Simple question, my guess is 
that you have. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: drop in volume

I close and reopen seeing A I.

I hope Apple fixes this.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: drop in volume

 

Are you able to rectify it, James, other than just turning up the volume switch?

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 12:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: drop in volume

 

I have this same problem with Seeing A I.

I’m using IOS 17.5.1 on a S E 3rd gen.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: drop in volume

 

Recently my iPhone suddenly drops in volume, especially when using Duo Lingo, a 
language learning app. 

I’m pretty sure it isn’t a Voiceover issue and if I turn up the volume via the 
phone’s switch, then the volume increases and then later, I have to turn it 
back down when normal volume resumes. 

Is anyone else having this issue?

Alison

 

From: 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all 
afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was 
talking about iMessage, but when I finally, got her thinking email, she said 
that there is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an 
idea of when the problem will be solved.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?

 

That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.

 

On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having 
the exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email 
settings, but so far, I haven’t found any problems. I have also had her send 
email to two of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they 
are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iCloud mail question?

 

Hello,

 

I wonder if anyone can assist me here.

 

A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud 
mail without success.

 

We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  
We are unable to receive any of the messages that we have sent to a variety of 
e-mail services including my own domain.

 

On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders 
although they never arrive.  We get no error messages either.

 

On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.

 

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

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RE: Applevis Site

[Carolyn Arnold]

Without Applevis, plus Hadley, I'd have never learned to use my phone. I can't 
get into Hadley now, have gone through the fields to sign up plus have called 
Hadley on the phone to get signed up, but no go. I'm just glad I got them as 
long as I did. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Applevis Site

It needs to be saved.  We as a community need to come together.  Without 
Applevis I never would’ve gotten my first iPhone.  It is invaluable.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marda
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:39 PM
To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Applevis Site
 
Agreed.  There was something in the article, after telling us that it would be 
taken down, that it was on read only status and tsomething like "as the 
editorial staff consider other options"  (paraphrase, not an exact quote) but I 
am thinking they would be open to keeping it up if someone qualified 
technically and otherwise to run the site could be found who would be willing 
to put in all that work on a voluntary basis, either one person or possibly a 
group who had the proper skills.  I truly hope they find a way to keep it up 
because the site has provided a wealth of information to me as I have begun my 
journey through the apple world.  It was recommended to me and the first place 
on the web that I went seeking information about how to use my iPhone and apple 
watch.  (Still working on that one.)  I was unaware that such things as the 
podcasts and articles could be downloaded but someone mentioned that in a 
message.  Is this true?  We can save things from applevis?  if it absolutely 
has to be taken down can or will it be put in the wwayback machine on the 
internet archive so at least current content could be accessed?
Marda
On 7/28/2024 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
To be extra clear, David said it would go away after August 31st if no 
other option is found.
While it is a slim chance this will happen, as it says in one of our 
favorites songs from Spamalot, it is “not dead yet.”
 
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
   On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Applevis Site
 
Also, be aware that according to David Goodwin's blog post about the 
closure of AppleVis that the site will go from read only to removed completely 
after August 31, 2024. 
 
Allen Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone
 
On Jul 28, 2024, at 11:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
 
The site is read only now, the contact form is no longer 
available, e.g. it says 
 
Status message
Sorry… This form is closed to new submissions.
 
Having said this, if any of the Applevis people read this, it 
might be an idea to approach Apple directly and ask if they would host/maintain 
the site and by doing so allow the editorial team and other contributors to 
continue.
 
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Applevis Site
 
https://www.applevis.com/contact
 
 
Richard, USA
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." - Jane Wagner from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in 
the Universe.
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
Sent from my iPad Mini 6



On Jul 27, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Juan hernandez 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi All,
 
Can someone help me out by giving me David goodwin’s 
email, or some contact method? Or maybe one of the other editorial team emails? 
I’d like to discuss applevis.com and future hosting and running of the site
 
Best,
 
Juan
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RE: Applevis Site

[Carolyn Arnold]

Actually, the first time I called Apple Accessibility, the lady recommended 
Applevis to me, -lus she gave me other valuable help.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marda
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:39 PM
To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Applevis Site

Agreed.  There was something in the article, after telling us that it would be 
taken down, that it was on read only status and tsomething like "as the 
editorial staff consider other options"  (paraphrase, not an exact quote) but I 
am thinking they would be open to keeping it up if someone qualified 
technically and otherwise to run the site could be found who would be willing 
to put in all that work on a voluntary basis, either one person or possibly a 
group who had the proper skills.  I truly hope they find a way to keep it up 
because the site has provided a wealth of information to me as I have begun my 
journey through the apple world.  It was recommended to me and the first place 
on the web that I went seeking information about how to use my iPhone and apple 
watch.  (Still working on that one.)  I was unaware that such things as the 
podcasts and articles could be downloaded but someone mentioned that in a 
message.  Is this true?  We can save things from applevis?  if it absolutely 
has to be taken down can or will it be put in the wwayback machine on the 
internet archive so at least current content could be accessed?

Marda


On 7/28/2024 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:


To be extra clear, David said it would go away after August 31st if no 
other option is found.

While it is a slim chance this will happen, as it says in one of our 
favorites songs from Spamalot, it is “not dead yet.”

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
   On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Applevis Site

 

Also, be aware that according to David Goodwin's blog post about the 
closure of AppleVis that the site will go from read only to removed completely 
after August 31, 2024. 

 

Allen Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 28, 2024, at 11:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

The site is read only now, the contact form is no longer 
available, e.g. it says 

 

Status message

Sorry… This form is closed to new submissions.

 

Having said this, if any of the Applevis people read this, it 
might be an idea to approach Apple directly and ask if they would host/maintain 
the site and by doing so allow the editorial team and other contributors to 
continue.

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Applevis Site

 

https://www.applevis.com/contact

 

 

Richard, USA

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." - Jane Wagner from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in 
the Universe.

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Sent from my iPad Mini 6






On Jul 27, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Juan hernandez 
mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi All,

 

Can someone help me out by giving me David goodwin’s 
email, or some contact method? Or maybe one of the other editorial team emails? 
I’d like to discuss applevis.com and future hosting and running of the site

 

Best,

 

Juan

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RE: Thomas Donville's podcast?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, I'd like to know if Thomas has a site too. 

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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 9:28 PM
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Subject: Thomas Donville's podcast?

With the closing of "AppleVis", I hope Thomas Donville continues to produce his 
podcast!, especially during the beginning of September when he reviews the new 
iOS features! But for the life of me, I just can't remember what the podcast is 
called, to subscribe to it! I was on there before, but because it was a repeat 
of AppleVis, I saw no sense in being there, but now that Applevis is closing...
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RE: How to Set Split Tap

[Carolyn Arnold]

My cousin likes the predictive text, but I do not and have mine turned off. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Set Split Tap

I agree with the slide to type, but both of these are personal preference, I 
personally like the predictive text function.

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to Set Split Tap

 

The other things to be sure you change in settings, general, keyboard is to 
turn off slide to type and predictive text. They are both a pain in the butt 
for VoiceOver users. If those are off, touch typing works very well because you 
do not have to slide unless you touch the wrong letter, then slide to the 
correct letter and lift. It works great. But I usually use braille screen input 
just because it is even easier for me. 

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ...

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 

 





On Jul 17, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  
wrote:

I could never figure out touch typing either. I could never really 
slide to the letters I wanted very easily. I’m glad I have my braille keyboard 
to use instead.

Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!





On Jul 17, 2024, at 7:27 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 wrote:



The setting is called Touch Typing and is under VoiceOver 
settings, typing: and will say:

Typing Style Touch Typing

 

You probably have typing style set to normal, double tap and 
flick through the options and select touch typing. Then, touch and lift will be 
their friend.

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ...

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 

 





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wrote:



Actually I was referring to just split tapping on the 
home screen but since you mentioned it, I was also looking on how to set up 
typing such that I can touch a letter & when I lift my finger, it is typed.  I 
looked through settings but could not find it & set it up so long ago that I 
can’t remember what I did.  I think this would also help the friend who just 
started using voice over.

 

I thought about changing the subject for this but 
decided I should stick to the thread.  I’ve seen so many complaints about 
changing the subject.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Set Split Tap

 

She may refer to using split tap when typing text in 
which case standard typing has to be selected, but I believe that is still the 
case by default when you set up a new iPhone and you have to change it to touch 
typing which in my opinion is much more efficient.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: How to Set Split Tap

 

Agreed. Split tap is just an alternative to double 
tapping, and you get this for free, just like double tapping.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: How to Set Split Tap

 

There is no setting I know of. Split Tap means holding 
one finger on the icon then while keeping 

RE: Voice Control Question

[Carolyn Arnold]

People do get mixed up about Voicre Control and Voiceover. Over the years, I've 
told one that I needed a device to talk to me; I did not need to talk to a 
device. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jody ianuzzi
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2024 11:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Control Question

I think the sales person was confused with voice control and voiceover. No, 
using voice control is a lot more difficult when using voiceover unless you use 
headphones.

JODY


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On Jul 5, 2024, at 10:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:





I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T 
Mobile.  She was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a 
bit of usable sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly.

 

Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I 
think it is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging 
for her.

 

Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to 
one of her care givers.

 

Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA

 

 



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RE: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, that makes sense. I had set horn for hers so I could hear them. Finally, 
it dawned on me, I kept seeing Muted on hers. Go figure. I have no idea how I 
managed to do that, but now that I am aware, I will know for the future, and 
thanks to you, I'll know how to undo it. 

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Joseph hudson
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

As long as you have her on show alert, she shall alert you if you get a message.

> On Jul 7, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I havr her on Show Alerts now; we'll see what happens. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 3:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Be aware that you can practice with an existing message. Flick up to "hide 
> alerts" and double tap. It will announce that the message is muted. Now flic 
> up or down to "show alerts" and double tap and it becomes unmuted.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.
> 
> 
> Thanks. I keep checking for messages from her so I can get this problem 
> solved.
> 
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> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.
> 
> instead of opening the message flick up with one finger to show alerts 
> and double tap
> 
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> From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> To: "viPhone" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2024 1:31 PM
> Subject: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.
> 
> 
> What does it mean for a message to be muted, and is there a way to unmute it? 
> The person that I have more frequent texts with is muted, and I can't hear 
> when her texts arrive.
> Neither can I get her to come up when I start to type her name; I just put in 
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RE: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I havr her on Show Alerts now; we'll see what happens. 

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Robert Doc Wright
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Subject: Re: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

Be aware that you can practice with an existing message. Flick up to "hide 
alerts" and double tap. It will announce that the message is muted. Now flic up 
or down to "show alerts" and double tap and it becomes unmuted.
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.


Thanks. I keep checking for messages from her so I can get this problem solved.

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Robert Doc Wright
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instead of opening the message flick up with one finger to show alerts and 
double tap

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Subject: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.


What does it mean for a message to be muted, and is there a way to unmute it? 
The person that I have more frequent texts with is muted, and I can't hear when 
her texts arrive.
Neither can I get her to come up when I start to type her name; I just put in 
her phone number, then her name comes up. I have gone into her contact, into 
messages, and also sounds and haptics and can't figure out how to remedy this 
problem. Any help will be appreciated.

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RE: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I keep checking for messages from her so I can get this problem solved. 

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Robert Doc Wright
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instead of opening the message flick up with one finger to show alerts and 
double tap

- Original Message -
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To: "viPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2024 1:31 PM
Subject: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.


What does it mean for a message to be muted, and is there a
way to unmute it? The person that I have more frequent texts
with is muted, and I can't hear when her texts arrive.
Neither can I get her to come up when I start to type her
name; I just put in her phone number, then her name comes
up. I have gone into her contact, into messages, and also
sounds and haptics and can't figure out how to remedy this
problem. Any help will be appreciated.

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RE: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I'll have to wait for another message, but I will follow your 
directions, as they always work. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2024 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about muted person in Messages on my iPhone 14 Pro.

Supplement easy, fix, so find the conversation that you have going on with her 
in messages, then flick down or up until you hear, unmute conversation and then 
double tap. And your conversation should be good to go.

> On Jul 6, 2024, at 2:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What does it mean for a message to be muted, and is there a way to 
> unmute it? The person that I have more frequent texts with is muted, 
> and I can't hear when her texts arrive.
> Neither can I get her to come up when I start to type her name; I just 
> put in her phone number, then her name comes up. I have gone into her 
> contact, into messages, and also sounds and haptics and can't figure 
> out how to remedy this problem. Any help will be appreciated.
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