Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations
Hi everyone. If you live in Oregon, the pilot program is now closed. I just talked to Crystal with an LS, and they do not know when they will be handing out the braille displays to the general public. Julia. > On Aug 15, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > I mean, I’m not complaining, just find it interesting. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > Https://devinprater.flounder.online > >> On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Julia Kulak wrote: >> >> Hi everyone. Richard, thank you very much for this description. Devon, I >> don’t care if the voice over driver has more holes than a block of Swiss >> cheese. I am just grateful to have a free braille display! Julia. >>>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Devin Prater wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and >>> press the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the >>> thing. :) NVDA has no such faults, go figure. >>> Devin Prater >>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com >>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner >>>> wrote: >>>> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days. >>>> >>>> My impressions are below, in no particular order. >>>> >>>> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, >>>> and made out of a very rough material. >>>> >>>> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my >>>> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly >>>> too far to the right. >>>> >>>> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers >>>> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons. >>>> >>>> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space >>>> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some >>>> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard. >>>> >>>> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy. >>>> >>>> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book >>>> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys >>>> exposed. The best word I can think of is, "cute." >>>> >>>> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch >>>> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers. >>>> >>>> 7. It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a >>>> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard. >>>> >>>> 8. The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays. >>>> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the >>>> instructions did work. >>>> >>>> 9. NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward. >>>> >>>> 10. Changing braille grades is slow. Press Space+g and you have to wait >>>> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you >>>> want is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go >>>> back to what you were doing. >>>> >>>> 11. when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works >>>> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good. >>>> >>>> 12. The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet. >>>> >>>> 13. There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD >>>> books and updating the firmware. >>>> >>>> 14. The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go. >>>> >>>> 15. I have not tried using it with the computer. >>>> >>>> 16. It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to >>>> shut down. Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not >>>> sure. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for >>>> the blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader. >&g
Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations
Hi everyone. Richard, thank you very much for this description. Devon, I don’t care if the voice over driver has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. I am just grateful to have a free braille display! Julia. > On Aug 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > > Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and press > the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the thing. :) > NVDA has no such faults, go figure. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ > > > >> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner >> wrote: >> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days. >> >> My impressions are below, in no particular order. >> >> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and >> made out of a very rough material. >> >> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my >> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too >> far to the right. >> >> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers >> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons. >> >> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space >> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some >> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard. >> >> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy. >> >> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book >> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys >> exposed. The best word I can think of is, "cute." >> >> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch >> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers. >> >> 7. It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a >> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard. >> >> 8. The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays. >> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the >> instructions did work. >> >> 9. NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward. >> >> 10. Changing braille grades is slow. Press Space+g and you have to wait >> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want >> is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to >> what you were doing. >> >> 11. when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works >> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good. >> >> 12. The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet. >> >> 13. There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books >> and updating the firmware. >> >> 14. The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go. >> >> 15. I have not tried using it with the computer. >> >> 16. It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to >> shut down. Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not sure. >> >> >> >> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the >> blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader. If >> you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to >> get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program >> that is.. >> >> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree >> to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the >> device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it. If you >> want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished. >> >> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the >> one from Zoomax. >> >> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…, >> etc.. >> >> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: >> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/ >> >> >> >> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: >> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> Software means never having to say you're finished >> >> >> >> Web site: www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/v
Re: Recording conversations using the iPhone
There used to be a few Apps out there that work. It has been a couple of years since I have used them however. When I was looking into them, I did a search for record phone calls on the App Store. I do not know if any of them are still accessible. Julia. > On Mar 4, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Assuming this is in person, the Voice Memos app that is built in will do a > very nice job. > If you are talking about when you are talking over the phone, no there isn't. > If you had another recording device you could put the phone on speaker. > > > Richard > > "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a > Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in > deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I > was young." > "Why, what did she tell you?" > "I don't know, I didn't listen." > -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:41 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: >> >> There is a voice memos app which is pretty basic that comes with the phone, >> or there are several paid recorder apps. >> >> Andy >> >> - Original Message - From: "Beverly Wieland" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2021 4:32 PM >> Subject: Recording conversations using the iPhone >> >> >>> If I want to record a conversation (such as between myself and my doctor) >>> using my iPhone 7, is there a built-in app or should I download one? >>> If I need to download one, which app would you recommend? >>> >>> I hope this is not too elementary a question to ask! >>> But I would really appreciate your advice, and thank you in advance. >>> >>> Beverly Wieland >>> bwiel...@udel.edu >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cef7c10cf43b14ad35f0808d8df6f5b08%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637505016645269772%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=JM%2Fx%2BylNnUuRwP1jsUZAxQ5ZfrVNQbLMuO88G%2BL9lL4%3D&reserved=0 >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F00a101d71158%252436f0e470%25240201a8c0%2540AndyPC&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cef7c10cf43b14ad35f0808d8df6f5b08%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637505016645269772%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MWnl6btNrwsdjHVMcWDHJHd6ayVNxrUnfMJPstlYm6A%3D&reserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB451345C11E302C145AEA06A2B7969%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message becau
Re: Sonos - Here to Help
Hi everyone. Wow! I cannot believe that is how they responded. That is just unacceptable! My brother has several of their speakers, and I absolutely love their sound, but sheesh! Julia. > On Dec 31, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Dennis Long wrote: > > > I won’t purchase there products. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Sonos - Here to Help > > I completely agree with you Richard, your request was a perfectly reasonable > one and the reply you received was dreadful! > > Malcolm Parfitt > > > On 31 Dec 2020, at 16:14, Richard Turner wrote: > > > Simon, > Because I want to. > The amp will also work with our Samsung TV and use our existing, wired, > Boston Acoustic Bookshelf speakers. > > > > > Richard, in the U.S. > > "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a > Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in > deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I > was young." > "Why, what did she tell you?" > "I don't know, I didn't listen." > -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > > I’m not the card shark > My web site, www.turner42.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon > A Fogarty > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Sonos - Here to Help > > Hi Richard, > > Why do you need to know the frequency response for the sonos 1 speakers? > > There are two versions of the sonos 1 that I know of, > One has alexa built in, the other doesn’t, > > They work with / across 2.4 and 5 g wifi bands or via wired ethernet if you > like plugging cables… > > I don’t know why you would need the amp, > As you can do everything from your mobile phone. > > There is also the older models from sonos, the play 1 which only work over a > 2.4ghz wifi network or with a bridge or boost. > > > Note also that the sonos 1 have only a touch sensitive top or nuttons on the > top, there are no physical buttons that you can feel > Or at least I couldn’t feel them > > > So may be that can help with what you’re looking for. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Thursday, 31 December 2020 3:48 pm > To: ViPone list > Subject: Fwd: Sonos - Here to Help > > I'm forwarding what I feel is one of the worst examples of customer support > I've ever experienced. > I was looking into getting some Sonos 1 speakers and an amp so we could have > music in multiple rooms. I wrote their support to ask about the frequency > range of the speakers and to check if there are different generations of the > Sonos 1 speakers. Below is there utterly useless response. I'm rethinking our > plans. > > > Richard > > "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a > Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in > deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I > was young." > "Why, what did she tell you?" > "I don't know, I didn't listen." > -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Sonos Support > Date: December 30, 2020 at 6:17:40 PM PST > To: richardturne...@outlook.com > Subject: Sonos - Here to Help > > > Sonos > > > > Customer Care > > > Hi Richard, > > Thanks for contacting Sonos. > > Unfortunately, we don't share that technical information with the public, I > apologize for any inconvenience that this can cause. > > Cheers, > > Sonos Customer Care > > Case #: 02475560 > > > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > From: Richard Turner [richardturne...@outlook.com] > Sent: 12/29/2020 10:19 AM > To: c...@sonos.com > Subject: Frequency response of the Sonos 1 > > > > I cannot find any specifications on the frequency response of the Sonos 1 > wireless speakers. > > Are there different generations of the Sonos 1 speaker? > > > > Richard, in the U.S. > > "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a > Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in > deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I > was young." > "Why, what did she tell you?" > "I don't know, I didn't listen." > -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > > I’m not the card shark > My web site, www.turner42.com > > > > > ref:_00D1N2JMtd._5002KrpK8z:ref > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark
Re: VoiceOver speaking with accent on some sites
Hi everyone. Yes, I have had that problem on a couple of websites too. I can’t remember them off hand, but I would also be very interested in a fix for this. Thanks. Julia. > On Oct 1, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Hi all, I'm trying to read some game rules. When I look with my braille > display, it is English, however VoiceOver is speaking with an accent. Is > there something I can do about this? > > Here's the web address. > > http://www.lenagames.com/bp_files/rul/napol-tomb.htm > > Thanks, > Traci > > Sent from my iPad > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/40BB92F7-0552-46ED-A9A9-791D8BCC01FE%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9891FCF0-BEE4-4066-829B-FE8711A4B402%40gmail.com.
Re: Multiplayer apps
Hi everyone. I have only tried it once, but it does seem that the multiplayer game Avalon is accessible. It is a text based game. I do not know if there is an app for it for the iPhone however. I believe you have to buy some software that will help you interact with your screen reader. At least that seems to be the case if you have windows 10. That is, I am referring to VIP mud. I do not know if there > Our other accessible mud clients that you do not have to pay for. Hope this > helps. Julia. 9, 2020, at 5:04 AM, Ibraheem Fakir wrote: > > Hey list, are there any accessible multiplayer games? > All best, > Ibraheem > > Mistakes sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F18EDBF8-D964-4675-BEA1-E07846D70BED%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/347623A0-8A30-4A8A-9228-1413DFE4E2BD%40gmail.com.
