Hi everyone. If you live in Oregon, the pilot program is now closed. I just talked to Crystal with an LS, and they do not know when they will be handing out the braille displays to the general public. Julia.
> On Aug 15, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I mean, I’m not complaining, just find it interesting. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > Https://devinprater.flounder.online > >> On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Julia Kulak <julia.ku...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone. Richard, thank you very much for this description. Devon, I >> don’t care if the voice over driver has more holes than a block of Swiss >> cheese. I am just grateful to have a free braille display! Julia. >>>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and >>> press the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the >>> thing. :) NVDA has no such faults, go figure. >>> Devin Prater >>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com >>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner >>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days. >>>> >>>> My impressions are below, in no particular order. >>>> >>>> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, >>>> and made out of a very rough material. >>>> >>>> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my >>>> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly >>>> too far to the right. >>>> >>>> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers >>>> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons. >>>> >>>> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space >>>> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some >>>> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard. >>>> >>>> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy. >>>> >>>> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book >>>> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys >>>> exposed. The best word I can think of is, "cute." >>>> >>>> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch >>>> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers. >>>> >>>> 7. It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a >>>> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard. >>>> >>>> 8. The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays. >>>> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the >>>> instructions did work. >>>> >>>> 9. NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward. >>>> >>>> 10. Changing braille grades is slow. Press Space+g and you have to wait >>>> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you >>>> want is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go >>>> back to what you were doing. >>>> >>>> 11. when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works >>>> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good. >>>> >>>> 12. The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet. >>>> >>>> 13. There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD >>>> books and updating the firmware. >>>> >>>> 14. The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go. >>>> >>>> 15. I have not tried using it with the computer. >>>> >>>> 16. It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to >>>> shut down. Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not >>>> sure. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for >>>> the blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader. >>>> If you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how >>>> to get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the >>>> program that is.. >>>> >>>> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to >>>> agree to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after >>>> receiving the device and of course, to return it if you are not going to >>>> use it. If you want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished. >>>> >>>> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting >>>> the one from Zoomax. >>>> >>>> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…, >>>> etc.. >>>> >>>> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: >>>> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: >>>> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Software means never having to say you're finished >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Web site: www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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