RE: Looking for an extremely durable Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

Thanks.  I’ll take it to an Android list.

 

And, I agree with every one who recommended to always use a good case.  This 
lady is just stubborn about using a case.  

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for an extremely durable Android phone

 

Hi James, 

 

I expect you'll have much more success with your question on an Android list as 
opposed to on one that discusses iPhones. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 4, 2023, at 8:17 AM, James Bentley mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



OK, this might sound a bit crazy but I have a very good friend who has dropped 
her Android phone so many times over the years that you all would doubt me if I 
told you how many times.  And, it is usually in my apartment on my hard tile 
floors.  

 

Around one fourth of the time, the screen is cracked and she has to buy a new 
phone.  LOL, her husband is just about to ask her for a divorce.  Just kidding 
on that one.

 

Anyway, does any one make a phone that can survive drops on to a tile floor?  
She hates cases but if necessary, who might make a military grade case.

 

Any information  will be appreciated by me and especially her husband who is 
paying for these phones.

 

 

James B  

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How do I get my I Phone to recognize line breaks while swiping through a document

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I am trying to swipe through a document that was created with Notepad on my
Windows PC.

 

I'm useing One Drive on my I Phone.  But, when I try to swipe through one
line at a time.  VO reads at least 4 lines at a time without recognizing
line breaks.

 

I don't remember seeing this before.

 

I am still using IOS 15.7 on an SE 2nd generation.

 

Have I accidently changed a setting some where on my phone?

 

I appreciate any suggestions,

 

James B  

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RE: Need help with Siri and One Drive

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Sieghard,

 

I will try your shortcut idea when I find enough time to deal with it.  I 
suspect it won’t be a piece of cake.

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

 

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Subject: RE: Need help with Siri and One Drive

 

I don't think OneDrive has such an integration with Siri, but you could 
probably use the Shortcuts app to set up an automation which is triggered by a 
certain phrase and which then may open a folder as you describe. I only played 
around with Shortcuts a bit and don't find the process very intuitive or maybe 
it's just not as accessible as one would like.

 

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Subject: Need help with Siri and One Drive

 

Hi all,

 

I use MS One Drive on 2 laptops and 1 I Phone.  All files are synchronized on 
the 3 devices.

 

Is it possible to use Siri to open a folder in my documents?  And, is it 
possible to use Siri to open a certain file with in this certain folder?

 

Many thanks for any help,

 

James B  

 

 

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Need help with Siri and One Drive

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Hi all,

 

I use MS One Drive on 2 laptops and 1 I Phone.  All files are synchronized
on the 3 devices.

 

Is it possible to use Siri to open a folder in my documents?  And, is it
possible to use Siri to open a certain file with in this certain folder?

 

Many thanks for any help,

 

James B  

 

 

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RE: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

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Every thing in that list there was one of my neighbor’s wi-fi systems.  Sure, 
I’ll phone Apple.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  

 

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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

 

Did you check out each of the options under those settings?

 

If you cannot solve this, I’d call Apple Accessibility.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Subject: RE: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

 

I have some neighbors who do not have their wi-fi secured.  So, wouldn’t I be 
using their data without permision?  And, I thought the phone is suppose to 
switch to my phone’s data plan seemlessly when I leave my home wi-fi range.

 

Sorry for my lack of knowledge but there might always be some of this stuff 
that is a bit over my head.

 

Thank you Richard,

 

James B  joining some one’s 

 

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Subject: RE: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

 

In your Wi-Fi settings, check out the Ask to Join Networks, and Auto Join 
Hotspots options and see if changing one or both of those would help.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Hi all,

 

When I walk out side of my home’s Wi-Fi range, my I Phone seamlessly auto 
switches to cell data.  That is if I am listening to something like YouTube or 
a radio station.

 

But, if I am listening to a certain private nonsecure web site, I get an option 
to join a different Wi-Fi signal.  All of these are my neighbors Wi-Fi signals 
so I don’t want to even try to join.  At the end of this list of Wi-Fi options 
is a cancel button.  If I tap that, the phone appears to switch to cellular 
data and I can then continue listening to this unsecure site when out of range 
of my own wi-fi signal.  In case it matters, the site is:

 

http://w5cqu.homeip.net:8100/

 

Is there a setting some where on my I Phone to cause this to seamlessly auto 
switch like other web content does?

 

Hoping I explained this clear enough.

 

Thanks for any thoughts,

 

James B   

 

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RE: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

[bentleyj1952]

I have some neighbors who do not have their wi-fi secured.  So, wouldn’t I be 
using their data without permision?  And, I thought the phone is suppose to 
switch to my phone’s data plan seemlessly when I leave my home wi-fi range.

 

Sorry for my lack of knowledge but there might always be some of this stuff 
that is a bit over my head.

 

Thank you Richard,

 

James B  joining some one’s 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

 

In your Wi-Fi settings, check out the Ask to Join Networks, and Auto Join 
Hotspots options and see if changing one or both of those would help.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Subject: When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

 

Hi all,

 

When I walk out side of my home’s Wi-Fi range, my I Phone seamlessly auto 
switches to cell data.  That is if I am listening to something like YouTube or 
a radio station.

 

But, if I am listening to a certain private nonsecure web site, I get an option 
to join a different Wi-Fi signal.  All of these are my neighbors Wi-Fi signals 
so I don’t want to even try to join.  At the end of this list of Wi-Fi options 
is a cancel button.  If I tap that, the phone appears to switch to cellular 
data and I can then continue listening to this unsecure site when out of range 
of my own wi-fi signal.  In case it matters, the site is:

 

http://w5cqu.homeip.net:8100/

 

Is there a setting some where on my I Phone to cause this to seamlessly auto 
switch like other web content does?

 

Hoping I explained this clear enough.

 

Thanks for any thoughts,

 

James B   

 

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When my I Phone goes out of my home's wifi range

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

When I walk out side of my home's Wi-Fi range, my I Phone seamlessly auto
switches to cell data.  That is if I am listening to something like YouTube
or a radio station.

 

But, if I am listening to a certain private nonsecure web site, I get an
option to join a different Wi-Fi signal.  All of these are my neighbors
Wi-Fi signals so I don't want to even try to join.  At the end of this list
of Wi-Fi options is a cancel button.  If I tap that, the phone appears to
switch to cellular data and I can then continue listening to this unsecure
site when out of range of my own wi-fi signal.  In case it matters, the site
is:

 

http://w5cqu.homeip.net:8100/

 

Is there a setting some where on my I Phone to cause this to seamlessly auto
switch like other web content does?

 

Hoping I explained this clear enough.

 

Thanks for any thoughts,

 

James B   

 

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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[bentleyj1952]

If I was considering a 2 year old phone, I might take a look at a refurbished 
phone from a well known source like Apple.

James B  

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

I don't like disagreeing with Sieghard, and I'm not really disagreeing, but I'd 
have no problem recommending a two year old phone or even older. If the person 
realizes that they'll be getting that many fewer updates then it's just a 
decision on whether the money they're saving is worth the shortened life span 
or not.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not recommend 
somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than mind 
blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand why people 
who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far as that goes I 
think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro instead of a regular 
iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many times, the processor in 
the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor which is in all the iPhone 13 
models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least get LiDAR which allows you to use 
door detection and whatever other things developers may dream up which can use 
this sensor.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>>> before I decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd 
 take a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could 
 of course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you 
 to decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
 
 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
 Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
 that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
 would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
 would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
 may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
 unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
 some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
 read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
 record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
 the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
 as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new 
 iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it 
 appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple 
 will put a Touch 

RE: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[bentleyj1952]

You are lucky to have such a wife.  I have close friends who will not watch a 
described movie with me because they hate description so much.

Regards,

James  

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

My sighted wife also enjoys audio description.  Especially on mysteries.  They 
often point out things she would have missed. 




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

Well, my mom is not a fan of audio description at all. It’s too distracting for 
her seeing as she can see. my dad doesn’t mind it, but I think he just does it 
for the benefit of me or you know what benefits me sometimes. But I do know 
subsided, people that enjoy it. One of my friends is an audio describer 
technically being a reader that reads the audio description script that was 
written for him I think he even does the Picard series. His name is Roy 
Samuelson. He enjoys listening to audio description as well. He is fully sided.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2022, at 7:16 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Lana,
> Mark was saying the videos do not include the Audio Description track, but he 
> failed to use the word "description" in his statement.
> Yes, they have the full audio and sound effects, minus the description track 
> for the blind.
> Apparently, if you want to buy the video, with full audio including audio 
> description, you need to buy it through Prime.
> I personally am fine with just the free MP3 with no video but all the sounds 
> plus audio description.  My wife who is sighted, isn't a big fan of Sci-Fi.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lana
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; M. Taylor 
> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
> 
> Are you saying that the episodes come with video only? No dialogue or music, 
> or sound effects? or anything? That doesn't make sense, even for a sighted 
> viewer.
> 
>> On 10/18/2022 11:03 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, a list member who is also a Star Trek fan, just purchased Picard, 
>> Season 1, from the iTunes store.  He plans to buy season 2, also, from 
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> He informed me that the audio track is not included in the purchase.
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> I am so surprised given that the audio track is included on Amazon Prime 
>> Video.
>> 
>> Given that the show was produced at the Amazon Studios, I guess I should not 
>> be too surprised, at that.
>> 
>> Like all of my other television series purchases from iTunes, I probably 
>> wouldn't let the lack of an audio track stop me from purchasing the show but 
>> if I can get the same episodes, at the same price, with audio description 
>> from Amazon Prime Video, then so be it.
>> 
>> Well, off to the Amazon Prime Video Store, I go.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
>> 
>> I have not purchased that series. I did listen to season one from 
>> audiovault.net which of course is just the audio file, no Pictures.
>> I have a few movies from iTunes that have audio description.
>> Perhaps this is one where you need to ask Apple directly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an 
>> audio description track.
>> 
>> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
>> have access to that audio track.
>> 
>> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, 
>> Picard, also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is 
>> released in February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the 
>> iTunes store, as well.
>> 
>> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from 
>> the iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
>> 
>> 

RE: battery health

[bentleyj1952]

U, What I was trying to ask is this.

 

I wonder how long that phone will function with a battery that is at 30% of its 
original 100% power level.

 

1 hour?  Or, maybe a bit more?

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery health

 

Well, seeing as is Apple supports released devices for 6 years before they call 
it quits, here is what I found make of it what you will: 
https://www.alphr.com/iphone-8-support-end-date/

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 13, 2022, at 3:31 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Yeah.  I wonder how long that phone works before it goes dead.

James B  

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Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: battery health

Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHELA Robles
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: battery health

I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it was 
lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.

Sent from my iPhone




On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

 

Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: battery health

 

It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 79%. 
Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone shutting down 
and others.

 

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

 

  El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > escribió:

 

 

 

  

  Hi Paula,

 

  I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for three 
years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before I 
traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m 
certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific number. 

 

  Sent from my iPhone

 

 

  On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

 

 

 

  

 

  Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the 
battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t 
remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my memory. 
Thanks in advance.

 

  God bless!

 

  Paula and the pups

 

 

 

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RE: battery health

[bentleyj1952]

Yeah.  I wonder how long that phone works before it goes dead.

James B  

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Subject: RE: battery health

Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. 

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CHELA Robles
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery health

I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it was 
lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
> 
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> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery health
> 
> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
> shutting down and others.
> 
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
> 
>El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
> escribió:
>
>
> 
>
>Hi Paula,
> 
>I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before 
> I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m 
> certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific number. 
> 
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the 
> battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t 
> remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my memory. 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>God bless!
> 
>Paula and the pups
> 
>
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RE: SE 2020

[bentleyj1952]

LOL, Your wife is gonna get hacked off if she catches you whispering sweet 
nothings in to some one elsses ear durring the wee hours of the night.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SE 2020

 

Maybe your microphone is dirty or defective, I have no issues with Siri 
understanding me, last night I wanted her to do a conversion and my wife was 
already sleeping and while I held the iPhone quite close to me I basically 
whispered it to Siri and my request was recognized just fine.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: SE 2020

 

Hello all

There is another thing happening on my SE 2020 since the first 16 update. I did 
write up a list and send it on to Apple Assessibility and just got disconnected 
while waiting on hold to talk to them about what I will describe below.

   Siri is not responding to my normal tone of voice. I have to 
literally yell at the phone (and my echo device) to get her to acknowledge I 
have spoken. I know to wait to hear the bonk sound, for lack of a better term, 
and either way I wind up having to repeat my request twice, and you all know 
how much I like doing that! 

   Is there some setting to mark the sensitivity of the 
recognition? I don't mean speech recognition, just regular dictated speech, 
once again most of the problems are when I try to use Siri from the home 
screen, and I am not within an app. I guess if this persists I will simply get 
trained to always do dictation within an edit field in a specific App.

 

   Another broken thing: 

   If I say go to mail settings or settings for mail, I will never 
be taken to those specific settings. This was not the case with previous IOS 
versions.

   And, why is "mentions" in my roter? I did not put it there and 
see nothing about it in the roter settings.

btw, what bugs did 16.2 fix?

 

   Deidre

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[bentleyj1952]

Thank you sir, very much.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

Hi James,

 

Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where 
the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap.

 

So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an example.

 

Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either move 
up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.

 

It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from 
Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same way from 
it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap 
gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the 
way you want them.

 

 

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM

Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B  

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the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, 
it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A double 
magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
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> Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
> the Rotor
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> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down 
> to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
> there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
> rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
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> 
>Mike:
> 
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[bentleyj1952]

Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B  

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James
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, 
it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A double 
magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

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> Then, how do you use Quick Settings? 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
> the Rotor
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> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down 
> to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen Recognition in 
> there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset.  Think of this as the 
> rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
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>Mike:
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>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
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RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App

[bentleyj1952]

It should go past 75 cents as  long as you never enter a decimal point.  The 
system will asume that the last two digits are on the right side of the decimal 
point even though you never entered the point.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sending Money with the PayPal App

 

It wouldn't go past the 75 cents.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 2:24 PM

Subject: RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App

 

Wonder what would have happened if you had continued by typing 75.00?

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Sending Money with the PayPal App

 

Hi All,

 

Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the PayPal 
app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the amount I 
wanted to send.

 

I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you double 
tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when you are 
entering text.

 

Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 cents 
then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I could do. 
 I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way to navigate 
it myself.

 

I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way to 
enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the steps?  
All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

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RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App

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Wonder what would have happened if you had continued by typing 75.00?

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending Money with the PayPal App

 

Hi All,

 

Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the PayPal 
app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the amount I 
wanted to send.

 

I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you double 
tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when you are 
entering text.

 

Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 cents 
then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I could do. 
 I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way to navigate 
it myself.

 

I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way to 
enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the steps?  
All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

 

 

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RE: Really miss the add featureto dictated messages

[bentleyj1952]

I'm not caught up on mail so this may have already been resolved.

I'm not having this problem when using Ciri with my S E 2020.  I suggest that 
you try saying "add to this message" instead of just saying the word "add"

Hope this helps.

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Nope. Not working that way am I a SE 2020. I doubt there’s a setting I am 
missing. It only allows me to change it. Not at. I can use the command ad but 
it will take that dictation but than it Deletes anything that I’ve dictated 
earlier  in the same message. 
I am talking about dictating a message from the home screen, not from within 
the message app. Within the message app it’s pretty full proof, dictation that 
is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You can still add to messages using Siri.
> When it asks if you are ready to send it, just say "add to it."  Then it 
> asks, what do you want to add, say your addition, and then say send it when 
> it asks, or say add to it again.
> My test just now, it read back the whole message with the addition before 
> asking me if it should send it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
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> 
> Does it bother anybody else that dictates text messages that you can no 
> longer add to a message but that you can only change it? I know sometimes 
> anything you add might delete what was in the edit field before if you’re not 
> in the message app. But often it works. I really miss the ad feature as 
> opposed to having to change the whole message again. Sort of forces me to go 
> into the message app and use that since that never causes any problems. but I 
> like to do things as quickly as possible.The updates makes many things 
> more arduous. There’s more layering. And I can’t stand it. Does anybody else 
> feel this way?
> 
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RE: The vagaries of updating.

[bentleyj1952]

The way things are going, I won’t be updating to 16 for half a year.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 4:44 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: The vagaries of updating.

 

Well, I got 16, then 16.0.2. I got a phone call. How did I know? I found it in 
Notifications. 

 

I asked my husband, did you hear my phone ring about half an hour ago. He did 
not. I did not. So we called from his phone, did not hear. 

 

Bottom line: I went to Settings and Sounds and Haptics, and Ringer Volume was 
at 7%! So, I fixed that. 

 

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RE: Is there a way to get a finer adjustment of the speech rate in Voiceover on my iPhone 13 Pro Max running iOS 16?

[bentleyj1952]

Playing with this does work eventually.  You can actually adjust by 1% up or 
down.  And, you won’t have to mess with it again until Apple fixes it again. 
*grin*

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 12:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Is there a way to get a finer adjustment of the speech rate in 
Voiceover on my iPhone 13 Pro Max running iOS 16?

 

You can play with the slider in the accessibility/VoiceOver settings, but it 
takes some double tapping and holding and sliding up/down and messing with it 
to get some extra tweaking. 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Is there a way to get a finer adjustment of the speech rate in 
Voiceover on my iPhone 13 Pro Max running iOS 16?

 

Sadly, 5% is the smallest increment of change and that as you found is only if 
it is on the rotor.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Is there a way to get a finer adjustment of the speech rate in 
Voiceover on my iPhone 13 Pro Max running iOS 16?

 

Hi.

 

I upgraded to iOS 16 Monday night, and noticed that Alex at 50% seemed 
significantly slower. I changed the rotar to speaking rate, and increased it to 
55%. It was speaking a lot faster, so I was hoping to go somewhere in between. 
I went into Voiceover settings, and tried to slow the rate down. To my 
surprise, I went from 55% to 45%, so it was even worse, and I thought I could 
make finer adjustments there. Is there somewhere I can make a happy medium 
between the huge change in Voiceover, and the smaller, but not small enough, 
change on the home screen?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

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RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Richard and list,

 

I have Yahoo as my default account on my I Phone.

 

Its not the end of the world if this isn’t possible but, I would prefer to have 
my contacts on my phone and two laptops to synk.

 

I am using Windows10 on the 2 laptops with Outlook and the native mail App on 
my S E 2020.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

James

i have my contacts syncing and am using the native mail app.

I do not like the Outlook app.

What is set as your default account under settings, Contacts?

 

 

 

 

Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Sep 10, 2022, at 5:51 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Sounds convenient.  However, I’m not willing to give up the native IOS mail App 
so I might have to do without synchronizing my contacts, calendar etc.

 

Thanks for your post.

 

James B  

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

I use Outlook on my PC with an Outlook.com account. I created an Outlook 
account on my iPhone and I can see my contacts, calendar, notes and email on 
both my PC and my iPhone.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

Hello Richard and list,

 

I suppose its too much to hope that it is possible to get contacts on my I 
Phone to sync with my Windows 10 PC?  Or, vice versa?

 

All take care,

 

James B  

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

If they are both signed in with the same Apple ID, go into settings, the 
account at the top, go over to iCloud and make sure contacts are on then they 
should sync.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

礪

 

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Fazil M.
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

Hi, group.

My subjectline might be a bit misleading because of my poor English, my apology 
for that.

Basically, my question is that I saved a contact on my iPhone8 and I could not 
find this contact on my iPhone12. Both phone are on the same network.

Are the devices not synchronized automatically? Should I save this contact 
manually in iPhone12?

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RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

[bentleyj1952]

Sounds convenient.  However, I’m not willing to give up the native IOS mail App 
so I might have to do without synchronizing my contacts, calendar etc.

 

Thanks for your post.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

I use Outlook on my PC with an Outlook.com account. I created an Outlook 
account on my iPhone and I can see my contacts, calendar, notes and email on 
both my PC and my iPhone.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

Hello Richard and list,

 

I suppose its too much to hope that it is possible to get contacts on my I 
Phone to sync with my Windows 10 PC?  Or, vice versa?

 

All take care,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

If they are both signed in with the same Apple ID, go into settings, the 
account at the top, go over to iCloud and make sure contacts are on then they 
should sync.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

礪

 

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Fazil M.
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

Hi, group.

My subjectline might be a bit misleading because of my poor English, my apology 
for that.

Basically, my question is that I saved a contact on my iPhone8 and I could not 
find this contact on my iPhone12. Both phone are on the same network.

Are the devices not synchronized automatically? Should I save this contact 
manually in iPhone12?

Thanks!

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RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

[bentleyj1952]

Hello Richard and list,

 

I suppose its too much to hope that it is possible to get contacts on my I 
Phone to sync with my Windows 10 PC?  Or, vice versa?

 

All take care,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

If they are both signed in with the same Apple ID, go into settings, the 
account at the top, go over to iCloud and make sure contacts are on then they 
should sync.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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Fazil M.
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Sharing Contacts Across Devices?

 

Hi, group.

My subjectline might be a bit misleading because of my poor English, my apology 
for that.

Basically, my question is that I saved a contact on my iPhone8 and I could not 
find this contact on my iPhone12. Both phone are on the same network.

Are the devices not synchronized automatically? Should I save this contact 
manually in iPhone12?

Thanks!

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RE: Apple's iPhone is secretly tracking your every move

[bentleyj1952]

Most of the tracking is necessary in order for the phone and its Apps to 
function properly.  How is my phone going to tell me where the closest library 
is if the phone doesn’t know where I am located?

 

And, this really isn’t any kind of  a secret since, there are numerous articles 
from Apple and other places on the net discussing how to turn these features 
off.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's iPhone is secretly tracking your every move

 

That is not a secret, nor has it ever been a secret.

 

If people would take the time to read and explore the settings on any device, 
they would already know this.

 

I find it annoying that people like Kim Commando make it sound like Apple is 
doing something devious.  

 

It isn’t Apple’s fault people don’t bother checking the security settings they 
are agreeing to…

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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Aedan Something
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone is secretly tracking your every move

 

Thanks for the information. Apple should do a better job of letting users 
decide how it tracks phones and which services to turn off.

Aedan

 

 

 

On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:21 AM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

  
https://www.komando.com/privacy/secret-map-tracking-apple/465598/

 

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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[bentleyj1952]

Dennis,

Thanks for the link for submitting feedback to Apple.

I'll be explaining to Apple how important touch I D is for me.  And, I don't 
care where it is located on the phone.  I do not even necessarily  need a home 
button but, touch I D is extremely important for me.  Glad I don't live in a 
location where I have to wear gloves to protect my hands from frost bite.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I agree submit feedback to 
Feedback.apple.com 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
cory...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

One of my google phones has it on the power button as mentioned in my last 
email, and the other has it on the screen. I'm not sure what's taking apple so 
long to add this feature. 

C
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

That is simply speculation at this point, it is probably more likely they would 
come up with under-screen Touch Id which means that you put your finger on a 
certain area of the screen and that the scanner is embedded under the screen 
and it will read your finger print that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I read somewhere that on a future iPhone, they were going to put a fingerprint 
option in the Power Button. I probably would like that, although that is not a 
deal breaker in my case. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID hit or miss

I like the finger print much better.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
Schneider
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

Attention has always been off, as I was instructed by others on this list to do 
back when I first got my phone about eight months ago or so. Believe me, I have 
tried everything. I don’t mind face ID, but I had better success with the 
fingerprint, that’s for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, there is a setting to not require attention for Face ID 
> that makes it more forgiving. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 8:35 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
>> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
>> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
>> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
>> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
>> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
>> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
>> tempting in the past. 
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
>>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the 
>>> time, if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why 
>>> we could not get it done at Wal-Mart. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>> 
>>> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
>>> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  
>>> but I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I 
>>> will go outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some 
>>> people seem to have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make 
>>> it work consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do 
>>> as well as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it 
>>> gave their phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know 
>>> voice over said it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. 
>>> This is just speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone with which 
>>> to experiment.  

RE: thoughts on SE3

[bentleyj1952]

Maybe it takes 24 to 72 hours to match DNA today.  But, with many forms of 
technology doubling every 18 months, who knows what advances will occur in 10 
to 15 years.

Regards,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 11:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

You watch too much SciFi, there is a reason why if the police wants to identify 
somebody's DNA it has to be sent to a lab where it takes 24 to 72 hours for it 
to be sequenced and matched to somebody.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already 
exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's give 
that technology another 10 to 15 years.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or 

RE: thoughts on SE3

[bentleyj1952]

DNA recognition in a chip implanted some where in the body probably already 
exist.  I suspect that for now, it is too expensive to implament.  Let's give 
that technology another 10 to 15 years.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live 

RE: thoughts on SE3

[bentleyj1952]

Ikeep my phone in my pocket for security.  Its too easy for some jerk/jerkette 
to just reach out and grab and run.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Well Sieghard needs a belt clip to hold his iPhone as he has those little 
noodle arms he can't lift it out of his pocket. LOL. 藍  
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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RE: thoughts on SE3

[bentleyj1952]

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches 

RE: thoughts on SE3

[bentleyj1952]

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
> this year.  Thanks.
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RE: thoughts on SE3

[bentleyj1952]

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 4S in my 
pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a belt so a belt hip 
holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those specs:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes)

iPhone SE
5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30 minutes)


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the 13 
Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.

Kelly



On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> I’m very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery 
> life is certainly much better but I’ve not experimented to find out 
> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone, 
> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now 
> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>
> Alison
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>
>
>
> What are people’s thoughts on the SE3  that’s the one that came out 
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RE: iPhone SE.

[bentleyj1952]

Here is how you can tell.

 

Turn your phone completely off.  Now press down firmly on the home button.  It 
will feel like you are pressing on a solid hard piece of glass.  That is 
because you are actually pressing down on a rigid piece of glass.

 

The haptic bump that you feel while pressing down on the home button when the 
phone is turned on tricks us in to believing that we felt the button go down 
when it is pressed.

 

Its kind of cool technology.  I suppose getting use to a phone with no home 
button is no real problem but where will the finger print reader be located?  I 
will absolutely hate not having a finger print reader if that is what Apple has 
planned for the future.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

 

It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what feels 
more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, rather 
than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first generation 
SE.  Hard to describe.

 

Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I am 
feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from the 
button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.

 

The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was a 
line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would have 
to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  Back then 
we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added new 
prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers. 

 

Those were the days. . .

 

Karen P

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner

 

On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

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RE: iPhone SE.

[bentleyj1952]

If I am understanding this correct, there is the newist third gen SE, then, the 
second Gen, and the very old first Generation.  Only the old phone has a 
phisical home button which can eventually allow water inside the phone or wear 
out.

 

The newer phones have a haptic feel that mimicks the press of a spring loaded 
button but it is not a mechanical button at all.

 

Someone let us know if I am incorrect.  It wouldn’t be the first time.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner





On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

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RE: iPhone SE.

[bentleyj1952]

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

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RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

[bentleyj1952]

Thanks Sieghard and Christopher.

 

My phone now looks like it is set up like I want.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

 

Try going into Settings -> Wi-fi and turn ask to join to notify.

 

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When you are at your coffee shop and are connected you can swipe down on the 
network to “More” and then double tap, after that you can toggle the “Auto 
Join” option to off and that might do it.

If it doesn’t then you have to forget the network which means if you want to 
connect to it again down the road you would have to reenter its security key. 
If there is no security key, e.g. if it is an open public network then maybe 
turning off auto join will do it. If all else fails you can always turn Wi-Fi 
off completely.

In iOS 16 you will have more options to manage networks you have connected to 
in the past, currently if you have connected to your coffee shop before but you 
are not there you won’t see that network which is why you have to wait until 
you are physically there to see if you connect automatically or not.

 

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Subject: RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

 

OK, not to cause too much trouble for you but what steps would I need to take 
to prevent auto connection to the wi-fi at my coffee shop.

 

In other words, I do not want my phone auto connecting to public wi-fi’s 
without notification if possible.

 

Thank you very much,

 

James B  

 

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If you have the Wi-Fi password for your coffee shop entered it is likely that 
your phone will connect to that network if you are in range just as it will 
connect to your home Wi-Fi as soon as you come home..

 

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Hi all,

 

If I walk in to my local coffee shop with wi-fi calling turned on, will my I 
Phone connect without notifying me that I am on wi-fi calling?  

 

Are there any security risk when using wi-fi calling?

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

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OK, not to cause too much trouble for you but what steps would I need to take 
to prevent auto connection to the wi-fi at my coffee shop.

 

In other words, I do not want my phone auto connecting to public wi-fi’s 
without notification if possible.

 

Thank you very much,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
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If you have the Wi-Fi password for your coffee shop entered it is likely that 
your phone will connect to that network if you are in range just as it will 
connect to your home Wi-Fi as soon as you come home..

 

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Hi all,

 

If I walk in to my local coffee shop with wi-fi calling turned on, will my I 
Phone connect without notifying me that I am on wi-fi calling?  

 

Are there any security risk when using wi-fi calling?

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

[bentleyj1952]

Guess I never paid much attention to the bottom of this page.

 

I now have it set to ask before joining networks and hot spots.

 

By the time I figured out what each of these settings meant, I lost track of 
what the default settings were.

 

Thank you for your post.

 

James B  

 

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Yes, it’s in Settings -> Wi-fi. At the bottom you’ll see the option for ask to 
join networks.

 

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Does anyone know where I need to go on my I Phone to find out if I have wi-fi 
set up to automatically join unknown networks?

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

 

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Whis will depend on how you have wi-fi configured. I don’t have wi-fi set up to 
join an unknown network automatically. I don’t think there would be any more of 
a security issue than placing a regular phone call, but I’m not sure.

 

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Hi all,

 

If I walk in to my local coffee shop with wi-fi calling turned on, will my I 
Phone connect without notifying me that I am on wi-fi calling?  

 

Are there any security risk when using wi-fi calling?

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

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Does anyone know where I need to go on my I Phone to find out if I have wi-fi 
set up to automatically join unknown networks?

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Subject: RE: Questions about wi-fi calling

 

Whis will depend on how you have wi-fi configured. I don’t have wi-fi set up to 
join an unknown network automatically. I don’t think there would be any more of 
a security issue than placing a regular phone call, but I’m not sure.

 

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Hi all,

 

If I walk in to my local coffee shop with wi-fi calling turned on, will my I 
Phone connect without notifying me that I am on wi-fi calling?  

 

Are there any security risk when using wi-fi calling?

 

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Questions about wi-fi calling

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Hi all,

 

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RE: Two carriers on the same phone is eating my lunch

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You are correct in that I can choose which line is being used when I use the 
key pad.  But, what do I do to get Ciri to use the line that I want?

 

James B  

 

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You should be able to choose the line you want to place the call from. Its not 
labeled though, so probably just says button.

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On Jun 5, 2022, at 4:30 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I am temporarily using Mint Mobile on my phone’s E sim and Tracfone is on the 
phisical simm card.  I’m using the free 7 day trial of Mint Mobile to see if I 
like it better than Tracfone.  I haven’t gone out to find out which gets the 
stronger signal around town but here at my apartment, Mint Mobile always has 3 
bars while Tracfone is wavering in between 1 and 2 bars.

 

My problem is, when I make a phone call using the number pad, it is Mint Mobile 
that is being used to make the call.

 

But, when I get Siri  to make the call, it is Trackfone that is being used.

 

Anyone know why?

 

BTW, I’m using an I Phone S E 2020 and this is my first time to have two 
carriers on the same phone.

 

Regards,

 

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Two carriers on the same phone is eating my lunch

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I am temporarily using Mint Mobile on my phone's E sim and Tracfone is on
the phisical simm card.  I'm using the free 7 day trial of Mint Mobile to
see if I like it better than Tracfone.  I haven't gone out to find out which
gets the stronger signal around town but here at my apartment, Mint Mobile
always has 3 bars while Tracfone is wavering in between 1 and 2 bars.

 

My problem is, when I make a phone call using the number pad, it is Mint
Mobile that is being used to make the call.

 

But, when I get Siri  to make the call, it is Trackfone that is being used.

 

Anyone know why?

 

BTW, I'm using an I Phone S E 2020 and this is my first time to have two
carriers on the same phone.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

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RE: Wi-Fi ovens

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Thanks Sieghard for your response.

I got curious and Googled around a bit.  It looks to me like as long as one 
buys a name brand product and uses decent cookware, there are no negative 
results with induction range tops.  It looks like these range tops save a lot 
of money.  They; along with special cookware are just a bit expensive.

James B  

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Hello James,

I have an Apple Watch and so does my wife and our watches certainly don't seem 
to come to any harm in the last 3 years! I have heard that it is recommended 
that people with pacemakers are supposed to stay 2 feet away from an induction 
cooktop and I assume if I had such a device I maybe wouldn't buy one, but apart 
from that I never heard they damage anything else.

As for price I really can't say because we are in Canada. The GE Café line is 
their premium line, we paid I believe a bit over $4,000 for our stove back in 
2019 and I assume given how much more expensive things have become in the last 
year or two that the price for an equivalent current model might be a bit 
higher, but how much it is in the US I really can't say, would be easy to find 
out though, just check online or call a store which sells GE appliances and 
ask.I wouldn't be surprised however if it were at least $3,000 US or a bit more.




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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Out of curiosity, do induction stove tops damage wrist watches while stirring 
the contents of pots and pans?

Also, Can you give me a very rough price for your setup in U. S. dollars?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I’d come out 
here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have seen 
that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of these 
have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I are both 
totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas oven if that 
makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

Kellie and Loki   
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Wi-Fi ovens

[bentleyj1952]

Out of curiosity, do induction stove tops damage wrist watches while stirring 
the contents of pots and pans?

Also, Can you give me a very rough price for your setup in U. S. dollars?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I’d come out 
here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have seen 
that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of these 
have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I are both 
totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas oven if that 
makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

Kellie and Loki   
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Problems with the Walmart App

[bentleyj1952]

Walmart just can't leave their web site or their iPhone App alone.  They have 
constantly changed it around twice a year for years now.

Every change, I loose some functionality.  I recently placed an order with my 
iPhone instead of my Windows 10 PC.  I would love to be able to tell every one 
exactly how I managed.  But, by the time I got the order placed, I had no idea 
as to what steps I would need to reccomend.  It can be done if you are willing 
to go through many many, more swipes than before.

One step forward for us.  Three steps back.  Again and again.  What a massive 
headache.

Sorry for the rant.

James B  -Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems with the Walmart App

I know the Walmart app can now often be way  more difficult, but I have managed 
to play  around and find the product details and  nutrition information. If I 
open the particular  product screen, then put my finger on the  screen to make 
sure I am where I think I am,  and then swipe up from the bottom with three  
fingers twice, I very often get to where I can  flick through the nutrition 
information and  then come to the product details. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> As many of you probably know, a while back a major update was done to the 
> Walmart App. I think some of the changes were good.
> 
> However, as with most things, some were not. In some ways, I now find the App 
> a bit more difficult to use.
> 
> 
> For instance, when I would be ordering groceries, I sometimes like to click 
> on a particular item, and read the details on it. Or especially read the 
> nutrition information.
> 
> However, I can no longer seem to be able to do this. I think I may know why, 
> thanks to something a friend told me.
> 
> 
> Apparently, instead of having tabs that I could view, to see either the 
> details, or nutrition facts, it is all now photos. Of course, this isn't at 
> all helpful if you are totally blind.
> 
> 
> So is there possibly anything I can do about this?
> 
> I am not one to complain to a company, really. I haven't ever reached out to 
> a developer about their App. I don't know really how to begin to express why 
> this is a problem, in a way that might be helpful.
> 
> 
> Is this something that I possibly should do?
> 
> If so, what are some ways I should go about it?
> 
> I would really like to hear from some of you who have a lot more experience 
> with this.
> 
> 
> Also, if I don't reach out regarding the App, is there possibly a way to view 
> the information that might be in any of the product photos? Some way that 
> won't be complicated, and add a bunch more steps, to just trying to get 
> groceries ordered?
> 
> 
> Any thoughts, and help is much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

[bentleyj1952]

So, it doesn't matter when you make small changes like wearing a cap or how 
your hair is fixed?  And, face I D works in a dimly lit room?

Just curious,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

You just hold the phone out from you at the level of your face, maybe 15 
inches. The thing works, dark or light, with or without dark glasses. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

Well, I mean...I thought the phone needs to look at you?

 

Cheers,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

Christopher, you just have to hold it and look at it, no need to be waving it 藍

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: November 15, 2021 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

I have tried face ID, and I use it all of the time on my iPhone 11. Even though 
I don't have a problem with face ID, I'd still appreciate having touch ID as an 
option. There are times I just find it annoying to have to wave the phone in 
front of my face.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 12:09 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

I have to agree with Sieghard that Face ID is much easier and faster than Touch 
ID ever was. I would not wait to upgrade to an iPhone containing Touch ID if 
your current iPhone isn't meeting your needs.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 12:01 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

Then definitely expect 2 years rather than 1 because all rumors indicate it's 
unlikely the 14 phones will get Touch Id.

Have you actually really tried Face Id? I mean really had a chance to use an 
iPhone 11, 12 or 13 and set it up and use it?

You might be surprised how fast and good it is, in my opinion much more 
reliable than Touch Id.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: November 15, 2021 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

I use Verizon and I've got an awesome deal.  I get 5 gigs of data and unlimited 
talk and text for around $27 per month.  Esther, I'm not getting a 13 pro this 
year.  I'm holding out for a phone with touch ID.  If I have to wait a couple 
more years to do so, I can do it.

I've only had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  So my phone still has a lot 
of life left in it.  I also just had my battery replaced.

Let me tell you all, that new battery sure does make a difference in available 
time.  I also have a great new otterbox simitry case for my iPhone 8.

 

On 11/15/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

> My carrier is AT, and so far, I have no Siri issues with my iPhone 11.

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 

> Behalf Of Esther Levegnale

> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:16 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

> Subject: Re: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

> 

> 

> 

> Ooops!  I forgot to tell you that my carrier is AT

> 

> Esther

> 

> 

> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> 

> 

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel   > wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Keep in mind that the way Siri behaves may have less to do witgh 
> your 

> iPhone then with the service. Which phone do you have? If it's an 

> iPhone 8 or older I can see how an upgrade could definitely be a good 

> thing, but if you have an iPhone 11 or anything like that I personally 

> really don't see too much benefit.

> 

> I just switched from Koodo here in Canada back to 

RE: new iPhone

[bentleyj1952]

I'll save this post for future reference.  But, as far as Bard books, it sounds 
quicker to just download the books again.  All of my books on my external hard 
drive are unzipped.

Thank you for your responce.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hi James,

It is possible to transfer previously downloaded BARD books from a computer to 
BARD Mobile running on an iDevice. You have to decide whether the involved 
steps take less effort than just downloading the book again. You'll need a 
cloud service like Dropbox and the BARD book should be in its original zip 
format as downloaded from NLS. I have used Dropbox ever since getting my first 
iPhone because it was the service allowing access between files on my computer 
and the apps I used on my iPhone. So it only takes a short time to get zipped 
BARD books already in a Dropbox folder to the BARD Mobile app. From the Dropbox 
app, place focus on the zip file, select export, and then double tap on BARD 
Mobile. If BARD Mobile isn't presented as an option, you might have to execute 
a More button to choose it. You can also use the iOS native Files app to share 
a zipped BARD book with BARD Mobile provided the book is located in a cloud 
service available to Files. I just tested transfer of two separate BARD zip 
files I downloaded over a year ago using the Dropbox and the Files apps and the 
process only took a few seconds and each book played fine in BARD Mobile.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iPhone

Hello,

I have around two hundred Bard books saved to a hard drive in case I want to 
put them back on a thumb drive and play them on my NLS Digital player.

I suppose that it isn't possible to put these books on my iPhone S E 2020 
without just down loading them to the phone from Bard again?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  
> Am I missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the 
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download 
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only 
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really 
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books 
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my 
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to 
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy 
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my 
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong 
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that 
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with 
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the 
>> first of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost 
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be 
>> an iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>> 

RE: new iPhone

[bentleyj1952]

Hello,

I have around two hundred Bard books saved to a hard drive in case I want to 
put them back on a thumb drive and play them on my NLS Digital player.

I suppose that it isn't possible to put these books on my iPhone S E 2020 
without just down loading them to the phone from Bard again?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone

Not to mention BARD keeps track of your downloaded books!

On 11/15/21, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND  wrote:
> If I want to re-read a BARD book, I just download it again from BARD.  Am I
> missing something here?  Just curious.
>
> Pam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone
>
> The minie's don't have good enough battery life for me.  That's the
> point when it comes to bard books.  You can either stream or download
> audible books, however, you can't do that with bard books.  The only
> place you can keep your bard mobile books is on your iPhone.  I really
> hope that will change.  I hate the thought of all my downloaded books
> only on one device not backed up.  Of course, I always make sure my
> bard book is backed up to my external hard drive.  However, I have to
> redownload that book again to my external hard drive if the only copy
> of the book is on my iPhone.  Of course, I have to make sure my
> external hard drive is also backed up in case something goes wrong
> with my drive.  It is very interesting about these new iPhones that
> will be coming in future.  You can just do so much cool stuff with
> them.
>
> On 11/15/21, Paula Jordan  wrote:
>> I have a 13 mini and love it.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I have a friend, hwo loves her 12 Mini. I want to get a 13 after the
>> first
>> of the year or maybe next spring.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>> I heard the minis were going as the 12 mini didn't really take off
>>
>> I'm not sure about he 13 mini,
>>
>>
>>
>> But the SE I was under the impression it was going to stay
>>
>> And be renewed  every couple of years as an entry level lower cost
>> device.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:24 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't recall readin gthis. Most articles say that there won't be an
>> iPhone SE or Mini any more after next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: November 14, 2021 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Interesting article,
>>
>>
>>
>> I question though the comment that under screen touch id would appear in
>> a
>> future SE before the iPhone flag ship,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have thought that any new feature like this would go in to the
>> flag
>> ship phones / devices before a lsecond rate device like the SE
>>
>>
>>
>> And that isn't a down play on the SE,
>>
>>
>>
>> But they are not made to be the top of the line devices,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Richard Petty
>> Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 9:38 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Sieghard, thank you for sharing the full article. For those of us who
>> would
>> hope for an under-display Touch ID, it seems some don't think this will
>> happen. Below is a quote from the article:
>>
>>
>>
>> According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple is working on iPhones that
>> will feature under-display Touch ID, but these devices are not expected
>> to
>> launch until 2023. Other sources like Bloomberg have disagreed that Apple
>> is
>> focused on under-display Touch ID, and it's not clear if the feature
>> would
>> be included in Apple's flagship iPhones or devices like a future iPhone
>> SE.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: new iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis already answered your 

RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

[bentleyj1952]

Well, I mean...I thought the phone needs to look at you?

 

Cheers,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

Christopher, you just have to hold it and look at it, no need to be waving it 藍

 

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: November 15, 2021 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

I have tried face ID, and I use it all of the time on my iPhone 11. Even though 
I don't have a problem with face ID, I'd still appreciate having touch ID as an 
option. There are times I just find it annoying to have to wave the phone in 
front of my face.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 12:09 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

I have to agree with Sieghard that Face ID is much easier and faster than Touch 
ID ever was. I would not wait to upgrade to an iPhone containing Touch ID if 
your current iPhone isn't meeting your needs.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 12:01 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

Then definitely expect 2 years rather than 1 because all rumors indicate it's 
unlikely the 14 phones will get Touch Id.

Have you actually really tried Face Id? I mean really had a chance to use an 
iPhone 11, 12 or 13 and set it up and use it?

You might be surprised how fast and good it is, in my opinion much more 
reliable than Touch Id.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: November 15, 2021 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

 

I use Verizon and I've got an awesome deal.  I get 5 gigs of data and unlimited 
talk and text for around $27 per month.  Esther, I'm not getting a 13 pro this 
year.  I'm holding out for a phone with touch ID.  If I have to wait a couple 
more years to do so, I can do it.

I've only had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  So my phone still has a lot 
of life left in it.  I also just had my battery replaced.

Let me tell you all, that new battery sure does make a difference in available 
time.  I also have a great new otterbox simitry case for my iPhone 8.

 

On 11/15/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

> My carrier is AT, and so far, I have no Siri issues with my iPhone 11.

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 

> Behalf Of Esther Levegnale

> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:16 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

> Subject: Re: Siri is Acting Crazy Again!

> 

> 

> 

> Ooops!  I forgot to tell you that my carrier is AT

> 

> Esther

> 

> 

> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> 

> 

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel   > wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Keep in mind that the way Siri behaves may have less to do witgh 
> your 

> iPhone then with the service. Which phone do you have? If it's an 

> iPhone 8 or older I can see how an upgrade could definitely be a good 

> thing, but if you have an iPhone 11 or anything like that I personally 

> really don't see too much benefit.

> 

> I just switched from Koodo here in Canada back to Telus. Telus is 
> one 

> of the 3 main providers and Koodo is actually owned by them, but they 

> often have offered cheaper plans.

> 

> Now Telus called me and offered me a business plan where the more 

> phones you bring to them the better of a deal you get, 4 would have 

> saved me an extra $5/month per plan, but even with 3 lines which would 

> be my wife, my store manager and myself we get a pretty good deal.

> 

> Anyways, with them I could switch to a 2-year lease and for $27 a 

> months I could have an iPhone 13 128 Gb which after 2 years I could 

> simply give back to them and get a new iPhone which would be the 15 at 

> that point. It was almost tempting, but I decided to just keep my 

> 

RE: Siri not letting you send messages?

[bentleyj1952]

This is an IOS bug.  I have this problem with my iPhone SE 2020 running IOS 
14.8.

 

For me, rebooting the phone will fix the problem for a day or two.  Closing 
every thing in the app manager helps reduce occurrences of this problem, 
especially if messages is closed in the app manager when you try to send a 
message with Siri.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Adam 
Morris
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 12:53 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Siri not letting you send messages?

 

Hi all,

A friend of mine has the issue where she will ask Siri to send a message, she 
starts to say her message and only gets two words out before Siri thinks she 
has finished.
She knows not to pause at the beginning of the message.
Wondering what the best cause of action would be to fix this?
TIA.

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RE: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

[bentleyj1952]

I’m wondering which bugs might still exist.

 

Thanks Sieghard.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

 

If you are on 14.8 there is no reason I can think of not to update to iOS 15.1, 
it is very stable and most of the more serious initial bugs have been resolved.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: November 4, 2021 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

 

Not sure I want to update yet so, I wil try Richard’s suggestion about holding 
the home button down while speaking.

 

Thanks to both of you and to VI Phone

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

 

I’m using an XR. I was getting that all the time but it has not happened since 
I updated to IOS 15.

 

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: November 4, 2021 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

 

Hi all,

 

I’m using an iPhone S E 2020 with IOS, 14.8.

 

When I start talking to send an Eye Message, I get interupted after around two 
words and Siri is asking me if I am ready to send my message.

 

I can reboot and then send my message like normal.  But, why am I having to 
reboot so much?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[bentleyj1952]

The Sensi also does not need the C wire.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

 

Thanks Richard. That really helps.

One of the things that makes it  difficult to decide is the fact that I do not 
even if the wiring of my heating/cooling system has the Common wire, usually 
referred  to as the C wire. So far the only smart thermostat I found which does 
not need the C wire is Nest Gen3, also known as nest learning thermostat. 
However, I do not know how accessible the nest app is. Do you have any 
experience with this app? How accessible is it?

Cheers,

 

On/3/21 11:56 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

HI,

Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
installer had to get.

Honeywell Thermostat

 

9320 WF5003-u

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

 

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.

Sent from my iPhone






On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead mailto:knea...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

 

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible. 

The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.

So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com 

 

 

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Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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RE: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

[bentleyj1952]

Not sure I want to update yet so, I wil try Richard’s suggestion about holding 
the home button down while speaking.

 

Thanks to both of you and to VI Phone

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

 

I’m using an XR. I was getting that all the time but it has not happened since 
I updated to IOS 15.

 

 

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Sent: November 4, 2021 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

 

Hi all,

 

I’m using an iPhone S E 2020 with IOS, 14.8.

 

When I start talking to send an Eye Message, I get interupted after around two 
words and Siri is asking me if I am ready to send my message.

 

I can reboot and then send my message like normal.  But, why am I having to 
reboot so much?

 

Many thanks,

 

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A problem using Siri while sending Eye Messages

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I'm using an iPhone S E 2020 with IOS, 14.8.

 

When I start talking to send an Eye Message, I get interupted after around
two words and Siri is asking me if I am ready to send my message.

 

I can reboot and then send my message like normal.  But, why am I having to
reboot so much?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

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RE: Bird Identification App

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Pam,

 

I live in deep East Texas where we have millions of birds.  But, our apartment 
maintenance had to cut down 5 large trees near my apartment.  Now, most of the 
birds are gone. *groan.

 

But, this coming spring, I should get a better chance to check out this app.

 

Many thanks for the suggestion.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bird Identification App

 

Hi James,

 

We live in the U.S., in Florida.  Lots of birds around here.

 

 

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Bird Identification App

 

Pam,

 

May I ask you what part of the world do you live in.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Bird Identification App

 

Hi,

 

I have been trying to find a good bird id app without much success until now.  

 

I heard about the Merlin Bird Id app and have been trying it out, and so far I 
am quite pleased with it.  

 

They have packs that you can download of birds in different geographical areas. 
 So far, I have just downloaded the one for my area to try it out.  It actually 
has identified some birds which other apps were not able to id.  They had 
recently added the ability to identify birds from you recording the bird call 
you are hearing.  They also list the common birds in your area, and if you 
choose one, you can hear a recorded bird call that someone has contributed to 
the app.

 

So far, I am impressed, especially compared to some of the other apps I have 
tried.  I just wanted to pass this along in case anyone is interested.

 

Pam

 

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RE: Bird Identification App

[bentleyj1952]

Pam,

 

May I ask you what part of the world do you live in.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bird Identification App

 

Hi,

 

I have been trying to find a good bird id app without much success until now.  

 

I heard about the Merlin Bird Id app and have been trying it out, and so far I 
am quite pleased with it.  

 

They have packs that you can download of birds in different geographical areas. 
 So far, I have just downloaded the one for my area to try it out.  It actually 
has identified some birds which other apps were not able to id.  They had 
recently added the ability to identify birds from you recording the bird call 
you are hearing.  They also list the common birds in your area, and if you 
choose one, you can hear a recorded bird call that someone has contributed to 
the app.

 

So far, I am impressed, especially compared to some of the other apps I have 
tried.  I just wanted to pass this along in case anyone is interested.

 

Pam

 

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RE: Placeing an international phone call is trying to kill me and I'm too young to die

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Miss Carolyn,
That's just what a kind lister suggested to me recently.  Guess what.  It 
worked like a charm.

I love this list.

James B  

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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too young to die

James, couldn't you put the numbers in your contacts and let the phone do it 
for you? 

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Subject: Placeing an international phone call is trying to kill me and I'm too 
young to die

Hi all,

 

I am using Tracfone on an iPhone SE 2020 with international calling.

 

I need to dial a 12 digit number pretty quick.  I have tried around 25 times.  
I am not quick enough.  The system times out on me every time.

 

Is there a way around this?

 

Many thanks,

 

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Placeing an international phone call is trying to kill me and I'm too young to die

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I am using Tracfone on an iPhone SE 2020 with international calling.

 

I need to dial a 12 digit number pretty quick.  I have tried around 25
times.  I am not quick enough.  The system times out on me every time.

 

Is there a way around this?

 

Many thanks,

 

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RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[bentleyj1952]

I will also stop after this so I don’t stay off topic but, I just find your 
courage and determination to accomplish so much to be quite uplifting.

 

I would have never guessed how much you have over come.

 

Its amazing what the human spirit can do.

 

Now, back to tech stuff.  And, are we ever lucky that we live in this age of 
technology.  I got my first iPhone around 19 months ago.  I can’t imagine 
living without it now.

 

James B  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks 
or tree stumps or similar things.

We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the 
end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving 
on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full 
support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and 
grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared 
me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed 
like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O and so on. 3 Years 
after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private 
language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from 
my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I 
eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough 
biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for?

 

Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands 
and face.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off 
because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when 
I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb.

I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is 
where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention 
mode is turned off.

I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention 
mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Hi richard,

I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I 
do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never 
had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention 
enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, 
sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention 
mode if I were you.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 
256GB.

(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link 
to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)

 

Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package 
would be delivered today, not Monday. 

 

We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data 
transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar…

You know what happens when you assume?...

 

After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility.

I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us 
through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had us 
reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but 
it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.

 

I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in 

RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

[bentleyj1952]

Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for?

 

Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands 
and face.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off 
because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when 
I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb.

I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is 
where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention 
mode is turned off.

I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention 
mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus

 

Hi richard,

I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I 
do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never 
had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention 
enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, 
sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention 
mode if I were you.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday 
cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 
256GB.

(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link 
to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)

 

Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package 
would be delivered today, not Monday. 

 

We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data 
transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar…

You know what happens when you assume?...

 

After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility.

I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us 
through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had us 
reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process 
went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but 
it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.

 

I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  It is 
quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.

 

I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  The 
case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate holders, a 
plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and 
when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape 
mode.

 

I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below.

 

The Sound.  Well, I was expecting better sound.  I was not expecting this 
quality of sound.  When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting 
at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very 
clear and the sound quality is quite impressive.

Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE 
first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on 
the display.  The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation.  
Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second 
generation, the separation is noticeably better.

I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite 
impressed.

 

Setting up Face ID was very easy.  VoiceOver walks you through the setup with 
good directions.  Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the 
requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if 
you wish.  I wouldn’t do that.  That requires very specific focus rather than 
just some of your face being seen by the camera.  It makes unlocking the phone 
quite fast.

 

I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair 
amount.

 

My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 
Pro because she could not get it to fit.  It goes in upside down from the way 
it was in the SE 2020.  Then, it works fine.  I am on Xfinity, and I could make 
calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure.

I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, 

RE: No new iPhone yet

[bentleyj1952]

I remember a 2 and one half block wait to get Windows 95.  And, every one 
thought it was the greatest new thing since television.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

And I remember the good old days 10 years ago when the release date of new 
iPhones was announced during the Apple Event and then people would start lining 
up in front of all the Apple Stores starting at midnight and by morning in some 
places the line up would stretch around the block! How things change, there are 
still fans who order the minute the new phones go up online or probably those 
who are at the store when they open to get one, but it's a far cry from what it 
used to be which is of course a good thing because at times it seemed that 
getting a new iPhone was absolutely the most important, life-altering event 
with reporters interviewing those in line as if it really made a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

I found out the plan was the next “business day” by calling and getting a call 
back 32 minutes later from a human since the automated BS system couldn’t 
answer my question.

I could have it sent to a depot but that would be Tuesday so Monday will due 
just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

Here it would be dropped off at a local depot where you can then go with your 
card and Id to pick it up.

Usually you can also contact UPS to make arrangements; I am surprised there are 
no further instructions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: No new iPhone yet

 

I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday … well, 
I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, with 
nothing marked on it … which I found out later means, we will try two more 
times to deliver then likely will send it back … and the next time is Monday.

So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.

 

It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I’m not being sarcastic.  
They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the porch, especially 
with all the package thieves running around and they don’t want to be liable.

 

O well, patience is a virtue, right?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

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RE: An iPhone question for a friend

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Thanks for your post.  I’ll let my friend know.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend

 

According to the BARD Mobile user guide found under Help, the latest version of 
BARD Mobile requires iOS version 11 or later to work.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend 

 

You can download them on any device where you have installed the app and signed 
in. 

Perhaps, the new app is not compatible with the older operating system?

She probably could find out through her local NLS library.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I have a friend with an iPhone SE 2020 and an iPhone 5C.  The 5C doesn’t have a 
simm card in it but it still works on their wifi.

 

Her question is, can she download Bard books on both phones?  So far, something 
is going wrong when she tries to download books to the 5C but no problem when 
she tries with the SE 2020.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

James B  

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RE: An iPhone question for a friend

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I bet you are right.

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An iPhone question for a friend

 

You can download them on any device where you have installed the app and signed 
in. 

Perhaps, the new app is not compatible with the older operating system?

She probably could find out through her local NLS library.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I have a friend with an iPhone SE 2020 and an iPhone 5C.  The 5C doesn’t have a 
simm card in it but it still works on their wifi.

 

Her question is, can she download Bard books on both phones?  So far, something 
is going wrong when she tries to download books to the 5C but no problem when 
she tries with the SE 2020.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

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An iPhone question for a friend

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I have a friend with an iPhone SE 2020 and an iPhone 5C.  The 5C doesn't
have a simm card in it but it still works on their wifi.

 

Her question is, can she download Bard books on both phones?  So far,
something is going wrong when she tries to download books to the 5C but no
problem when she tries with the SE 2020.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

James B  

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RE: phone won't do anything

[bentleyj1952]

I have not experimented but for over a year now, many people have said that you 
need to hold the power button down for a minute or so.

Is this just one of those rumors that have been floating around for over a year 
now?

James B  

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: phone won't do anything

Yeah, it is amazing how many problems can be solved by either restarting it, or 
doing a hard reset, which is what you did. Who knows what happened to it. 
Actually, you don't need to hold the power button in more than maybe 10 seconds 
or so. I was just curious as to what happened to it. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:

I can't tell you what the problem was apart from what I  stated earlier 
basically the phone just locked and would't move any which way.  to fix it you 
press the volume up button first and them the volume down button and finally 
press the power button in holding it in for about a minute or a minute and a 
half.  by which time you're phone should have gone off and reset itself.  hope 
that is of some help to you.  Janet

On 26/08/2021 13:00, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> Just curious: What was the problem and how did you solve it?
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> problem has been solved.  thanks to all.  Janet
> 

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RE: How do I find emergency alerts

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Go in to settings and then in to notifications.  All of the different types of 
alerts will be at the end of that long list.

 

The volume level on these alerts is high.

 

 

James B  

 

From: catwacky via VIPhone  

Seriously, the volume on these alerts is quite high.

 

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How do  you even get them to come over your phone?

 

Karen

 

 

 

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Subject: How do I find emergency alerts

 

Hi all,

 

I just received an emergency alert from my local police on my iPhone.  I had 
Siri read the message to me several times.  I can not understand enough of the 
words to understand what is being said.

 

Is there a place where I can go on my iPhone to read the message a word or 
character at a time.

 

Many thanks,

 

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RE: How do I find emergency alerts

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Oops!  It was in the notification area on my SE 2020.  I just missed it.

 

Now, I need to figure out what Blue alert, until Auguist 17 means.

 

Note, I am now reccomending to all that people do not sleep with their phone 
close to their ear.  The volume of the Alert system is really really, loud.

 

LOL, I narrowily avoided having to change my sheets.  

  

Many thanks,

 

James B  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 11:40 PM
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Yes under messages if it’s a text message,

 

Or the notifications area depending on which phone you have,

There is a different way to open the notifications 

 

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Subject: How do I find emergency alerts

 

Hi all,

 

I just received an emergency alert from my local police on my iPhone.  I had 
Siri read the message to me several times.  I can not understand enough of the 
words to understand what is being said.

 

Is there a place where I can go on my iPhone to read the message a word or 
character at a time.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

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How do I find emergency alerts

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Hi all,

 

I just received an emergency alert from my local police on my iPhone.  I had
Siri read the message to me several times.  I can not understand enough of
the words to understand what is being said.

 

Is there a place where I can go on my iPhone to read the message a word or
character at a time.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

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RE: 2 iPhone questions please

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Thank you Richard.

 

Reachability showed up under touch which is under accesibility.  My friend will 
love this.

 

I’m not getting my data eaten up.  Just phone minutes.  I might need to change 
my phone carrier.  Finding a good deal might be a challenge.

 

All of you please stay safe,

 

James B  

 

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Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:50 PM
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Subject: RE: 2 iPhone questions please

 

Have your friend turn off reachability.  I don’t recall under which setting it 
is, but if they use the search box at the top of the settings screen they can 
find it.

 

You may have to contact your carrier about Wi-Fi calling.  But the theory is 
that it helps when a cell signal is weak to give a better connection, I think.

I don’t think it gets you around using minutes if you are actually on a phone 
call.

Minutes should only be used during calls.

Data, on the other hand, is used up while on a cellular (non-wi-fi) connection 
doing things like surfing the net, email, etc.

 

If it is your data being eaten, see if you can connect via Wi-Fi and turn off 
cellular data so you only use data when on Wi-Fi.  That will work until you are 
not on a Wi-Fi network.

 

But, check with your carrier about the wi-fi calling bit.

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

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Subject: 2 iPhone questions please

 

Hi all,

 

A friend’s iPhone SE 2020 makes an obnoxious swooshing sound for no apparent 
reason.  My phone also did that when it was new but Apple tech support told me 
how to turn that noise off.  That was 18 months back and I do not remember how 
to turn it off.  I bet some one here knows.

 

And, I would like to know about wifi calling which is located in the phone 
menu.  I’m trying to figure out if I need that turned on or off.

 

I use Tracfone and my minutes are being used even when I am at home near my 
wifi.  I thought that phone calls were not used when at home near wifi.  Can 
some one please explain?

 

Thanks for all of the help.

 

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2 iPhone questions please

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

A friend's iPhone SE 2020 makes an obnoxious swooshing sound for no apparent
reason.  My phone also did that when it was new but Apple tech support told
me how to turn that noise off.  That was 18 months back and I do not
remember how to turn it off.  I bet some one here knows.

 

And, I would like to know about wifi calling which is located in the phone
menu.  I'm trying to figure out if I need that turned on or off.

 

I use Tracfone and my minutes are being used even when I am at home near my
wifi.  I thought that phone calls were not used when at home near wifi.  Can
some one please explain?

 

Thanks for all of the help.

 

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RE: Wondering if I should update my iPhone

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Thanks to all who responded.

I will go ahead and upgrade now.

Everyone stay safe,

James B  

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I would say, that if you update to 14.7.1, check your settings to make sure 
they are as you have them set. 

I had to:

1. Get my phone back on Internet. 
2. Turn up volume on phone speaker, as it had been turned down, dfown, down.
3. Check Do Not Disturb; mine had been put on a schedule of being on from 10 to 
7. 

Those are the surprises I have encountered so far. 

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Hi all,

 

I am running IOS 14.4.2 on a SE 2020.

 

Are there pros and cons as far as updateing this phone:?

 

Thanks,

 

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Wondering if I should update my iPhone

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Hi all,

 

I am running IOS 14.4.2 on a SE 2020.

 

Are there pros and cons as far as updateing this phone:?

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Speak screen, Expand speaking bar. What is this?

[bentleyj1952]

Devin, its sure convenient to have speak screen out of my way.

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

 

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Prater
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:53 PM
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Yes. You can either expand the speaking bar, by double tapping I think, then 
tap on “stop”, or go to settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Speak 
screen and turn it off. See if either of those help.

Devin Prater

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Hi all,

 

This message is getting in my way.  Can I get rid of it?

 

Many thanks,

 

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Speak screen, Expand speaking bar. What is this?

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

This message is getting in my way.  Can I get rid of it?

 

Many thanks,

 

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RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[bentleyj1952]

No, bears crap any where they want.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Now that’s a cool thought,

 

A gide bear!

 

No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets with you.

 

And bears shit in the woods!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do work). Then 
of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the bear will 
take away from you and use it for seasoning 藍

 

Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you although there 
are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out if you 
accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread and 
there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the most 
part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too used 
to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.

My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall and we 
came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a black 
bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous dog 
seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me when 
there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a foot 
or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we backed 
up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of people maybe 
a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too often because 
it could have gone either way.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about his 
adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
salesperson about walking through bear country.

 

Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do that.

Bill: O, that explains all the little bells I saw in the bear poop on the trail.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

First of all there are only two types of bears here, Black Bears and Grizzly 
Bears. The Brown Bear used to live in Europe where it is largely extinct.

Secondly it is pointless to try and run from any bear because no human alive 
can outrun one, over a short distance a bear can run as fast as a horse.

Thirdly, no bear will ever chase me on an icy hill because both species crawl 
into a den around mid or late October and then sleep until early to mid April, 
I guess they don't like the snow and the cold either.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Hey just so long as if they video you or say myself banging in to things,

 

They give us the url to  go check out the video so we can laugh at ourselves as 
well.

 

 

Mind you,

You have bigger issues during winter than we do here in NZ,

 

I’d like to hear / see the video of you running from a brown bear on an icie 
street / hill,

 

That could be rather funny so long as the bear doesn’t get you.

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 6:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[bentleyj1952]

What about dirt cheap laytex gloves?

 

Or, are you just kidding around?

 

James B

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

It’s not difficult,

 

They just find it hard cleaning the poo out from under their finger nails.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
juanhernande...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 6:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Why is it so hard for blind folks to pickup dog poop?

 

I mean really, if you can’t pick it up, maybe a dog isn’t for you.

 

 

From: h.begum99 via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yeah but then another blind person will probably come and walk over it which is 
disgusting!!! In my area there’s lots of dog poo around on the street and you 
always feel extra apprehensive in case you step in it. Other people just go 
around or over it but of course blind people have no choice but to go through 
it if they are walking alone.

 

 

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goshawk on horseback
Sent: 26 May 2021 00:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

 

exactly, yet another point in the robot's favour. although here in the UK, I 
believe guide dog users are exempt from having to clear it up. I know they used 
to be anyway, but not sure if that is still the case now. 

 

and yet another point, is that the robot one should take you to exactly where 
you want to go, even if you have no idea of how to get there, and no sense of 
direction, where as that would probably be a heck of a lot to ask from the 
standard guide dog. 

 

Simon 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:52 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

Yeah,

 

And it wont poo on the street needing you to then clean it up.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 8:58 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post
Importance: High

 

possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping" 

 

Simon 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: CJ   & AA MAY 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

 

By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their attention. 
Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide dog owner is 
that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. A robot guide 
dog is likely to draw just as much attention.

 

Alison

 

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RE: Water resistant bluetooth speaker?

[bentleyj1952]

Is this water proof enough to use in the shower if kept away from the direct 
water stream?

 

And, roughly , how much does it cost?

 

Thank you Sieghard,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Water resistant bluetooth speaker?

 

Sorry, I meant to say "speakerphone, so it does not have a microphone

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Water resistant bluetooth speaker?

 

You may want to check out the Roam from Sonos. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com  

 

 

On May 21, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Mickey Quenzer mailto:mickey.quen...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Personally, I bought the Bose sound link Bluetooth speakers. I bought two of 
them with protective cases.

You they are advertised as waterproof.

 you can have two of them for left and right channel stereo. I will send you 
the linkBose SoundLink Micro: Small... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748NCPRR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share 

 

Midnight Blue Protective Case for Bose SoundLink Micro Bluetooth Speaker, Best 
Color and Shape Matching, Featured Secure and Easy Pulling Out Strap Design, 
Mesh Pocket for Cable and accessorie 
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075WPKFWN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_66DQX116A012JNAENCEC?_encoding=UTF8
 

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Subject: Water resistant bluetooth speaker? 

 

Hi, I'm in the market for a water resistant Bluetooth speaker. I'd like the 
kind where voiceover will stay on my device and not go to the speaker. It would 
be a bonus if the speaker was compatible with Alexa, but that’s not a must.

Any suggestions?

So far Sound Core speakers look pretty cool. Also I read about a magnetic, 
expandable one from POW.

Thanks for your input,
Traci 

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RE: Finding my place in a document?

[bentleyj1952]

So, I can spell check with Voice Dream Writer and do normal word processing 
things.  And, I will just be using Voice Over for speech.

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?

 

Voice Dream Reader is only an app for reading most any text based document, and 
has some ability to OCR image files. 

Voice Dream Writer is primarily a txt editor with which you can markup or 
"markdown" text files to then export with formatting to RTF format. It only 
opens and works with text txt files; but you can export to several formats.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On Apr 26, 2021, at 5:50 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Hi all,

, I am new to this.

What is the difference between Voice Dream Writer and Voice Dream Reader.

Many thanks,

James B  

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?

You are right! Voice dream works fine for this. thanks
Harry




On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Possibly the voice dream reader app could do this but I'm not a bigg user so 
someone else might have better information.

 

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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 

Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 10:11 pm

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?

 

Yes, I could type in && at the point where I where I finish reading and do a 
search for that when I reopen the document, delete the symbols and do that 
every time. That does work but is a bit convoluted. An app which remembers your 
place would be great, if such a thing exists?

Thanks

Harry

 

On 26 Apr 2021, at 10:54, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Pages would be great for this if you knew what you were doing with it,

 

If you want to read line bvy line then set your rota so that you have lines 
included and then make sure that is what you have when you start reading,

 

If you are looking for a specific place in a txt document then you need to have 
a marker or similar that you can find to start again from there.

 

-Original Message-

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Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 7:25 pm

To: Abridged Recipients mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: Finding my place in a document?

 

In which iOS app can I reliably go back and reopen a document such that 
VoiceOver will start reading from the same place I left off last time I 
finished reading it? I have several .txt files I want to read through quite 
slowly. Pages is useless for this!

Thanks

Harry

 

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RE: Finding my place in a document?

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

, I am new to this.

What is the difference between Voice Dream Writer and Voice Dream Reader.

Many thanks,

James B  

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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?

You are right! Voice dream works fine for this. thanks
Harry

> On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Possibly the voice dream reader app could do this but I'm not a bigg user so 
> someone else might have better information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 10:11 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?
> 
> Yes, I could type in && at the point where I where I finish reading and do a 
> search for that when I reopen the document, delete the symbols and do that 
> every time. That does work but is a bit convoluted. An app which remembers 
> your place would be great, if such a thing exists?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2021, at 10:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Pages would be great for this if you knew what you were doing with it,
>> 
>> If you want to read line bvy line then set your rota so that you have lines 
>> included and then make sure that is what you have when you start reading,
>> 
>> If you are looking for a specific place in a txt document then you need to 
>> have a marker or similar that you can find to start again from there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 7:25 pm
>> To: Abridged Recipients 
>> Subject: Finding my place in a document?
>> 
>> In which iOS app can I reliably go back and reopen a document such that 
>> VoiceOver will start reading from the same place I left off last time I 
>> finished reading it? I have several .txt files I want to read through quite 
>> slowly. Pages is useless for this!
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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A relatively new Bluetooth Braille keyboard

[bentleyj1952]

Hello list,

 

*I’m reposting this because I messed up the link at the bottom of this post.
I hope I did a better job this time around.

 

I recently learned about a product from Orbit Research.  It is a very small
Bluetooth Braille keyboard called the Orbit Writer.

 

It can remember being paired to 5 different Bluetooth devices at one time.
It can also remember 1 USB device.

 

For example, I plan on pairing the Orbit Writer that I just ordered to one
iPhone, and two different Windows computers via Bluetooth.  The device
remembers paired devices so you do not have to waste time pairing every time
you want to switch to a different phone, PC, iPod, etc.

 

This pocket size Braille keyboard is around 6 inches wide by 3 inches deep
by ½ inch thick It is not a Braille display.  It is not even a note taker.
It is just a Braille Bluetooth keyboard that one can use to operate all
functions on a smart phone and many other  devices via Braille input over
Bluetooth.  I do however, doubt if it would be of much value trying to
operate a smart phone camera because one would need to hold the phone in
their hands for acurate snap shots.

 

It has a centrally located connection place for a lanyard.  When using a
neck lanyard, the user can use all functions of their smart phone via
Bluetooth while standing in line for what ever.  This is of course if the
user has their smart phone near by.  Like in their pocket, purse, or back
pack.

 

They cost $100.00, and they are available at AT Guys, Orbit Research.com,
and I think LS and S.

 

Note, AT Guys has a $25.00, TPU snap on case for the Orbit Writer that
protects the device like a smart phone case protects a phone.  This TPU case
has openings to allow the Micro USB port and lanyard connection holes to be
accessed.  And, the top is open so the user can make use of the Perkins
style  keyboard and the navigation ring that controls fast forward, rewind,
up and down.  And there is a button in the middle of the ring that performs
multiple options.  All of the positions on the ring also perform different
options depending on what you are doing.

 

I primarily plan on using my iPhone as a note-taker, and to do email and
things on the internet.  It can control all smart phone or iPod and PC
functions without any swipes or taps.

 

Anyway, I am posting this in case some one is interested.  And, I am very
curious to find out if any of you have heard of the Orbit Writer?  I think
it was released back in August of last year.  I think by an Australian
company.

 

Here is an AT Guys link for the Orbit Writer:

 

 

Hello list,

 

I recently learned about a product from Orbit Research.  It is a very small
Bluetooth Braille keyboard called the Orbit Writer.

 

It can remember being paired to 5 different Bluetooth devices at one time.
It can also remember 1 USB device.

 

For example, I plan on pairing the Orbit Writer that I just ordered to one
iPhone, and two different Windows computers via Bluetooth.  The device
remembers paired devices so you do not have to waste time pairing every time
you want to switch to a different phone, PC, iPod, etc.

 

This pocket size Braille keyboard is around 6 inches wide by 3 inches deep
by ½ inch thick It is not a Braille display.  It is not even a note taker.
It is just a Braille Bluetooth keyboard that one can use to operate all
functions on a smart phone and many other  devices via Braille input over
Bluetooth.  I do however, doubt if it would be of much value trying to
operate a smart phone camera because one would need to hold the phone in
their hands for acurate snap shots.

 

It has a centrally located connection place for a lanyard.  When using a
neck lanyard, the user can use all functions of their smart phone via
Bluetooth while standing in line for what ever.  This is of course if the
user has their smart phone near by.  Like in their pocket, purse, or back
pack.

 

They cost $100.00, and they are available at AT Guys, Orbit Research.com,
and I think LS and S.

 

Note, AT Guys has a $25.00, TPU snap on case for the Orbit Writer that
protects the device like a smart phone case protects a phone.  This TPU case
has openings to allow the Micro USB port and lanyard connection holes to be
accessed.  And, the top is open so the user can make use of the Perkins
style  keyboard and the navigation ring that controls fast forward, rewind,
up and down.  And there is a button in the middle of the ring that performs
multiple options.  All of the positions on the ring also perform different
options depending on what you are doing.

 

I primarily plan on using my iPhone as a note-taker, and to do email and
things on the internet.  It can control all smart phone or iPod and PC
functions without any swipes or taps.

 

Anyway, I am posting this in case some one is interested.  And, I am very
curious to find out if any of you have heard of the Orbit Writer?  I think
it was released back in August of last year.  I think by an Australian

A relatively new Bluetooth Braille keyboard by Orbit Research

[bentleyj1952]

Hello list,

 

I recently learned about a product from Orbit Research.  It is a very small
Bluetooth Braille keyboard called the Orbit Writer.

 

It can remember being paired to 5 different Bluetooth devices at one time.
It can also remember 1 USB device.

 

For example, I plan on pairing the Orbit Writer that I just ordered to one
iPhone, and two different Windows computers via Bluetooth.  The device
remembers paired devices so you do not have to waste time pairing every time
you want to switch to a different phone, PC, iPod, etc.

 

This pocket size Braille keyboard is around 6 inches wide by 3 inches deep
by ½ inch thick It is not a Braille display.  It is not even a note taker.
It is just a Braille Bluetooth keyboard that one can use to operate all
functions on a smart phone and many other  devices via Braille input over
Bluetooth.  I do however, doubt if it would be of much value trying to
operate a smart phone camera because one would need to hold the phone in
their hands for acurate snap shots.

 

It has a centrally located connection place for a lanyard.  When using a
neck lanyard, the user can use all functions of their smart phone via
Bluetooth while standing in line for what ever.  This is of course if the
user has their smart phone near by.  Like in their pocket, purse, or back
pack.

 

They cost $100.00, and they are available at AT Guys, Orbit Research.com,
and I think LS and S.

 

Note, AT Guys has a $25.00, TPU snap on case for the Orbit Writer that
protects the device like a smart phone case protects a phone.  This TPU case
has openings to allow the Micro USB port and lanyard connection holes to be
accessed.  And, the top is open so the user can make use of the Perkins
style  keyboard and the navigation ring that controls fast forward, rewind,
up and down.  And there is a button in the middle of the ring that performs
multiple options.  All of the positions on the ring also perform different
options depending on what you are doing.

 

I primarily plan on using my iPhone as a note-taker, and to do email and
things on the internet.  It can control all smart phone or iPod and PC
functions without any swipes or taps.

 

Anyway, I am posting this in case some one is interested.  And, I am very
curious to find out if any of you have heard of the Orbit Writer?  I think
it was released back in August of last year.  I think by an Australian
company.

 

Here is an AT Guys link for the Orbit Writer:

 

 

https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info
 =34_54_id=317Regards,

 

James B 

 

 

 

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RE: Apple getting cheap

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Maria ,

This seems to becoming common place with a lot of different products that I 
have purchased lately.

I am guessing that so many people have an abundance of chargers laying around 
that it is no longer necessary to include an AC  charger.

If a person does not have a spare charger laying around, then, this is a major 
bummer.

In my case, I am glad that my SE 2020 did not come with a charger because I 
would have had to pay more for the phone to get a charger.  No charges for 
accessories are paid for by the manufacturer.  The additional cost are always 
absorbed by the purchaser which means higher prices.

Amazon is an excellent place to find a multitude of different types of 
chargers.  Some even have surge protection, multiple USB ports, and even 
multiple AC outlets.  Just make sure that it is Apple certified.

Regards,

James B  

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Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple getting cheapq

My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger.  How cheap is that 
considering it's so proprietary?  It came with the C cord but not the 
charger.



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RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

[bentleyj1952]

Hello,

Who is saying that the ScrollBar is the problem?

And, if that is the problem, why can't Apple make that optional.  I would much 
rather do without the ScrollBar if loosing my place in the giant fat middle of 
a long list of mail could be resolved.

Regards,

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

You are not alone with your frustration with the mail app. The problem & cause 
of the hair pulling, & loud swearing, is the useless scrollbar!!! If Apple 
wants to keep it, because some people want the scrollbar, make it an option 
that can be selected or left alone in the depths of HE郎郎 for those of us that 
find the scrollbar a only a pain in the A郎郎! Oh, lets not forget the emails 
that won’t delete unless a magic trick is performed!郎郎

Donna
 
> 
> Hi,
> Excuse me while I vent, as I’ve become increasingly frustrated with the 
> native IOS mail app.  I’ve been using iPhones since the iphone 4  came along 
> in 2010 or 2011, and I’ve used Mail with my GMail account, which has been 
> around since 2007.
> Over the years there have always been focus issues in message lists, and when 
> ovening message threads for the first time I will rarely land on message 1. 
> Then, when opening a message in the thread and using the Messages item in the 
>  rotor to move to the next message, I may get bounced back to a message 
> that’s way earlier in the thread than the one that I intended to move to. For 
> example, let’s say I’m on message 50 of 120 in the thread. I use Messages in 
> the  rotor and select Next Message. In this example, I might get bounced back 
> to Message 21. 
> These are just a couple of situations that are frustrating me like crazy.
> I could try the GMail app or Outlook for Ios, but I like the native mail app 
> for the most part and am realy surprised that Apple hasn’t managed to make 
> the damn thing behave. 
> Surely I’m not the only one who’s having focus issues such as I’ve described 
> above.
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RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

[bentleyj1952]

Is the problem that Apple doesn't care enough to spend some research and 
development money to fix this problem.  Or, maybe Apple has run in to a 
technical problem that they do not know how to resolve.

This has been around for a long time now.

I'm just curious.

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 10:33 PM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

Hi,
Excuse me while I vent, as I’ve become increasingly frustrated with the native 
IOS mail app.  I’ve been using iPhones since the iphone 4  came along in 2010 
or 2011, and I’ve used Mail with my GMail account, which has been around since 
2007.
Over the years there have always been focus issues in message lists, and when 
ovening message threads for the first time I will rarely land on message 1. 
Then, when opening a message in the thread and using the Messages item in the  
rotor to move to the next message, I may get bounced back to a message that’s 
way earlier in the thread than the one that I intended to move to. For example, 
let’s say I’m on message 50 of 120 in the thread. I use Messages in the  rotor 
and select Next Message. In this example, I might get bounced back to Message 
21. 
These are just a couple of situations that are frustrating me like crazy.
I could try the GMail app or Outlook for Ios, but I like the native mail app 
for the most part and am realy surprised that Apple hasn’t managed to make the 
damn thing behave. 
Surely I’m not the only one who’s having focus issues such as I’ve described 
above.

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RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Andy,

To mass delete or move messages in the native mail App on an IPhone, go in to 
the messages that you want to delete and swipe left to the edit fieold and 
single finger double tap there.

Now, Swipe left to the checkbox that says select all and single finger double 
tap that to check it.

Now, near the bottom right of your screen, you should be able to either find a 
move or a delete button that you can single finger double tap on.

>From there, follow the prompts.

For example, if you went in to move, then swipe until you see trash and single 
finger double tap there and all messages will go in to trash.

I'm still new to the iPhone so someone please correct me if I skipped any thing.

Everyone please stay well,

James B  

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Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 12:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

i just wish there was an easy way to mass delete messages.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1


nope you're not alone. this happens more with longer threads.

want to talk about all aspects of blindness? Join the blind chatroom list by 
sending an email to blind-chatroom-requ...@freelists.org with subscribe in 
the subject

> On Apr 13, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Excuse me while I vent, as I’ve become increasingly frustrated with the 
> native IOS mail app.  I’ve been using iPhones since the iphone 4  came 
> along in 2010 or 2011, and I’ve used Mail with my GMail account, which has 
> been around since 2007.
> Over the years there have always been focus issues in message lists, and 
> when ovening message threads for the first time I will rarely land on 
> message 1. Then, when opening a message in the thread and using the 
> Messages item in the  rotor to move to the next message, I may get bounced 
> back to a message that’s way earlier in the thread than the one that I 
> intended to move to. For example, let’s say I’m on message 50 of 120 in 
> the thread. I use Messages in the  rotor and select Next Message. In this 
> example, I might get bounced back to Message 21.
> These are just a couple of situations that are frustrating me like crazy.
> I could try the GMail app or Outlook for Ios, but I like the native mail 
> app for the most part and am realy surprised that Apple hasn’t managed to 
> make the damn thing behave.
> Surely I’m not the only one who’s having focus issues such as I’ve 
> described above.
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RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

[bentleyj1952]

Sorry, I don’t.  I can tell you that I use Seeing AI a lot and it is a battery 
hog.

 

Maybe your phone is old enough that the battery isn’t holding the same charge 
as when it was new.

 

Maybe some one who has the answer to your question will respond but I have seen 
more than just a few mentions stateing that Apple let us down some what on the 
iPhone SE 2020 battery life.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Interesting, do you know what the battery life is compared to an iPhone 8?  

I usually charge my 8 every night because the apps I run seem to take a lot of 
battery.

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

 

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

 

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.  

 

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

 

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Johna Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?

I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Johna Gravitt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM

Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu> > wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have 
> a nice day!
>
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> -Original Message-
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> Joe Orozco
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the 
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner   > wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way 
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> 

RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

[bentleyj1952]

Its camera is perfect for things like Seeing AI and other Apps that the 
visually impaired need.

 

It is extremely fast.  A lot faster than the iPhone 8.  And, since it is 
exactly the same size as an iPhone 8, it fits the same cases.

 

As far as I can tell, its battery is just a bit too small.  

 

I have to charge my SE 2020 once a day.  It gets used around 7 to 8 hours every 
day.

 

Its the least expensive iPhone model out there with a small screen and a bunch 
of camera features that I will never never, use.

 

Cheers,

 

James B  .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

What are the differences between a regular iPhone and the SE Model?  Aren’t 
there some limitations to what it can do verses a regular model?

I thought I read somewhere that the speed isn’t as fast nor is the camera as 
good

Johna

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

No, the SE 2020 iPhone is the same size as the iPhone 8.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Johna Gravitt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 9:21 AM

Subject: RE: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

 

That's the mini, or small iPhone right?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Newest iPhone with a physical home button.

iPhone SE second generation.



On 4/8/21, Lehmann, Timothy A mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu> > wrote:
>
> What is the newest iPhone with a physical home button? Thanks and have 
> a nice day!
>
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>
> CAUTION: External Sender
>
>
> My jacket sleeve is a pro at getting it to work! Sadly, I, as the 
> human, am not.--Joe
>
> On 4/8/21, Richard Turner   > wrote:
>> Thanks for that, but, sadly, that doesn’t address VoiceOver users.
>> It is helpful to review to make sure all the settings are the way 
>> they need to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>> I looked this up via Apple help. Not sure if folks will find it useful.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/watch/tell-time-with-haptic-feedback-
>> apd2c755c294/7.0/watchos/7.0> k.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fguide%2Fwatch%2Ftell-tim
>> e-with-haptic-feedback-apd2c755c294%2F7.0%2Fwatchos%2F7.0=04%7C0
>> 1%7C%7C2de704a1c6304c640f6708d8fa9bfed7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637534895181613014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
>> 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000
>> =FF4NdpFxl6w7KU3PzzjHNJOws0SGxGBCMf9NWF4Ysxc%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:05 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>> >  
>> > wrote:
>>
>> that is what happened to me as well. Even with the pause in between.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ann Byrne"
>> >  
>> >
>> To: >  
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Telling time silently on the watch
>>
>>
>> When I tap twice, the stinker says "9:19 PM".  that isn't what I had 
>> in 

RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Please post a link for the case that you chose.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

I also bought myself the speaker, as well as a case for it.  Both
should be here this coming Friday.  I really don't need another
speaker, but since the price is half off, I couldn't resist.

On 4/7/21, Esther  wrote:
> you got that right! Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 3:06 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I should have it in my hands some time tomorrow.
>>
>> Is 2021 great or what?
>>
>> Now if we could just shoo this stupid virus away.
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>
>> Outstanding. I hope it arrives quickly and you enjoy it.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 1:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>
>> I know.  I just bought it a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Thanks for your post,
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>
>> James,
>>
>> I really think you're going to enjoy the Tribit MaxSound Plus portable
>> speaker. Now is a great time to buy it because the list price at Amazon is
>> $99.99 and it's currently on sale for $49.99. Here's the Amazon link:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MQWG3PR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 3:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>
>> Thank you Joshua and Alan for the information on the Tribit BT speaker.
>>
>> I will be buying this in a couple days.
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>
>> Any bluetooth speaker when your bard book has chapter markup, should go
>> forward and back when you use the correct button presses.  The same is
>> true with any bluetooth headset or ear buds.
>>
>>> On 4/7/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> Yes, when playing a BARD book with the BARD Mobile app on my iPhone SE
>>> 2020, pressing the multifunction button three times with the jump to
>>> button set to chapters jumped the book to the previous chapter.
>>> Pressing it twice jumped to the next chapter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 5:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When using this device with an iPhone to read Bard books, will the
>>> prior track and next track button move back or forward in a Bard book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Donald,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third
>>> from the left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a
>>> table documenting the function based on the number of presses of the
>>> MFB:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Number of presses
>>>
>>> Function
>>>
>>>
>>> Once
>>>
>>> Play/pause
>>>
>>>
>>> Twice
>>>
>>> Skip to next track
>>>
>>>
>>> 3 times
>>>
>>> Skip to previous track
>>>
>>>
>>> Once when incoming call
>>>
>>> Answer/end the call
>>>
>>>
>>> Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call
>>>
>>> Reject the call
>>>
>>>
>>> Press and hold for 2 seconds
>>>
>>> Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to
>>> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great
>>> 

RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

I should have it in my hands some time tomorrow.

Is 2021 great or what?

Now if we could just shoo this stupid virus away.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Outstanding. I hope it arrives quickly and you enjoy it.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

I know.  I just bought it a few minutes ago.

Thanks for your post,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

James,

I really think you're going to enjoy the Tribit MaxSound Plus portable speaker. 
Now is a great time to buy it because the list price at Amazon is $99.99 and 
it's currently on sale for $49.99. Here's the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MQWG3PR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Thank you Joshua and Alan for the information on the Tribit BT speaker.

I will be buying this in a couple days.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Any bluetooth speaker when your bard book has chapter markup, should go forward 
and back when you use the correct button presses.  The same is true with any 
bluetooth headset or ear buds.

On 4/7/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Yes, when playing a BARD book with the BARD Mobile app on my iPhone SE 
> 2020, pressing the multifunction button three times with the jump to 
> button set to chapters jumped the book to the previous chapter.
> Pressing it twice jumped to the next chapter.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 5:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> When using this device with an iPhone to read Bard books, will the 
> prior track and next track button move back or forward in a Bard book.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third 
> from the left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a 
> table documenting the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:
>
>
>
>
> Number of presses
>
> Function
>
>
> Once
>
> Play/pause
>
>
> Twice
>
> Skip to next track
>
>
> 3 times
>
> Skip to previous track
>
>
> Once when incoming call
>
> Answer/end the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call
>
> Reject the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds
>
> Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to 
> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great 
> speaker for the price. It generates a great sound and more than 
> adequate volume for its size.
>
>
>
> Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left 
> most switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what 
> is the third button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, 
> volume up, and the sixth switches to auxiliary input mode. But please 
> tell me what the third button from the left is used for.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don Roberts
>
>
>
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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

I know.  I just bought it a few minutes ago.

Thanks for your post,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

James,

I really think you're going to enjoy the Tribit MaxSound Plus portable speaker. 
Now is a great time to buy it because the list price at Amazon is $99.99 and 
it's currently on sale for $49.99. Here's the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MQWG3PR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Thank you Joshua and Alan for the information on the Tribit BT speaker.

I will be buying this in a couple days.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Any bluetooth speaker when your bard book has chapter markup, should go forward 
and back when you use the correct button presses.  The same is true with any 
bluetooth headset or ear buds.

On 4/7/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Yes, when playing a BARD book with the BARD Mobile app on my iPhone SE 
> 2020, pressing the multifunction button three times with the jump to 
> button set to chapters jumped the book to the previous chapter. 
> Pressing it twice jumped to the next chapter.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 5:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> When using this device with an iPhone to read Bard books, will the 
> prior track and next track button move back or forward in a Bard book.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third 
> from the left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a 
> table documenting the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:
>
>
>
>
> Number of presses
>
> Function
>
>
> Once
>
> Play/pause
>
>
> Twice
>
> Skip to next track
>
>
> 3 times
>
> Skip to previous track
>
>
> Once when incoming call
>
> Answer/end the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call
>
> Reject the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds
>
> Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to 
> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great 
> speaker for the price. It generates a great sound and more than 
> adequate volume for its size.
>
>
>
> Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left 
> most switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what 
> is the third button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, 
> volume up, and the sixth switches to auxiliary input mode. But please 
> tell me what the third button from the left is used for.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don Roberts
>
>
>
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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Thank you Joshua and Alan for the information on the Tribit BT speaker.

I will be buying this in a couple days.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Any bluetooth speaker when your bard book has chapter markup, should
go forward and back when you use the correct button presses.  The same
is true with any bluetooth headset or ear buds.

On 4/7/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Yes, when playing a BARD book with the BARD Mobile app on my iPhone SE 2020,
> pressing the multifunction button three times with the jump to button set to
> chapters jumped the book to the previous chapter. Pressing it twice jumped
> to the next chapter.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 5:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> When using this device with an iPhone to read Bard books, will the prior
> track and next track button move back or forward in a Bard book.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan
> Lemly
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third from the
> left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a table documenting
> the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:
>
>
>
>
> Number of presses
>
> Function
>
>
> Once
>
> Play/pause
>
>
> Twice
>
> Skip to next track
>
>
> 3 times
>
> Skip to previous track
>
>
> Once when incoming call
>
> Answer/end the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call
>
> Reject the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds
>
> Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to
> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for
> the price. It generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its
> size.
>
>
>
> Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most
> switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the
> third button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and
> the sixth switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the
> third button from the left is used for.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don Roberts
>
>
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
> list.
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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Hi,

While reading a Bard book, does the go forward a track and go backward a 
trackmake any changes?  I am hoping that it does with my iPhone.

But, Either way, there are so many good reviews that I have decided to buy one. 
 Probably in a day or two., 

Regards,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Hi.

I've had mine since early November, and the only time mine has turned off on 
its own was when it got unpaired from my computer and I didn't know it. It's a 
great speaker, and I'm constantly using it.

Kevin and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

Oops!  It was in the question and answer section.  Not in the reviews.  There 
are 349 customer questions right before the reviews.  I only read through about 
half and noticed around 15 to 20 complaints.

People kept asking why the BT speaker kept shutting down in the middle of 
streaming or listening to music.  This was happening usually 20 to 90 minutes 
in to using the device.  The seller kept telling everyone to contact them for 
assistance.  Some of the users returned their speakers for replacements that 
did work right.

I am still considering trying this BT speaker because a lot of respondents to 
the complaints stated that they did not have the problem.  And Amazon does have 
a decent return polocy.

These speakers are made in the US with very high reviews and they seem to have 
excellent customer support.  BTW, they are currently selling a one hundred 
dollar speaker for fifty bucks.

Below is a link to the reviews and the 349 questions.

Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker:

https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-MaxSound-Bluetooth-Exceptional-Waterproof/product-reviews/B07MQWG3PR/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8=all_reviews


HTH,

James B
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

I didn't see anything about the speaker shutting down while in use when I 
looked at the reviews of the Tribbit sound max speaker.  I've never had any 
bluetooth speaker do what you describe.

On 4/6/21, bentleyj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Never mind.  I found the Tribit BT speaker at Amazon.  It looks like a 
> very good deal with one exception.
>
>
>
> A lot of reviews complained about the speaker shutting down while in use.
> If it wasn’t for that, I think I would buy one.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Send you a link to what exactly? I got the info about the 
> multifunction button on the Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker on my own and 
> input it manually into an Excel file.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 4:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Can you send us a link?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third 
> from the left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a 
> table documenting the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:
>
>
>
>
> Number of presses
>
> Function
>
>
> Once
>
> Play/pause
>
>
> Twice
>
> Skip to next track
>
>
> 3 times
>
> Skip to previous track
>
>
> Once when incoming call
>
> Answer/end the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call
>
> Reject the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds
>
> Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to 
> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great 
> speaker for the price. It generates 

RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Oops!  It was in the question and answer section.  Not in the reviews.  There 
are 349 customer questions right before the reviews.  I only read through about 
half and noticed around 15 to 20 complaints.

People kept asking why the BT speaker kept shutting down in the middle of 
streaming or listening to music.  This was happening usually 20 to 90 minutes 
in to using the device.  The seller kept telling everyone to contact them for 
assistance.  Some of the users returned their speakers for replacements that 
did work right.

I am still considering trying this BT speaker because a lot of respondents to 
the complaints stated that they did not have the problem.  And Amazon does have 
a decent return polocy.

These speakers are made in the US with very high reviews and they seem to have 
excellent customer support.  BTW, they are currently selling a one hundred 
dollar speaker for fifty bucks.

Below is a link to the reviews and the 349 questions.

Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker:

https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-MaxSound-Bluetooth-Exceptional-Waterproof/product-reviews/B07MQWG3PR/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8=all_reviews


HTH,

James B  
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

I didn't see anything about the speaker shutting down while in use
when I looked at the reviews of the Tribbit sound max speaker.  I've
never had any bluetooth speaker do what you describe.

On 4/6/21, bentleyj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Never mind.  I found the Tribit BT speaker at Amazon.  It looks like a very
> good deal with one exception.
>
>
>
> A lot of reviews complained about the speaker shutting down while in use.
> If it wasn’t for that, I think I would buy one.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Send you a link to what exactly? I got the info about the multifunction
> button on the Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker on my own and input it manually
> into an Excel file.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 4:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Can you send us a link?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third from the
> left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a table documenting
> the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:
>
>
>
>
> Number of presses
>
> Function
>
>
> Once
>
> Play/pause
>
>
> Twice
>
> Skip to next track
>
>
> 3 times
>
> Skip to previous track
>
>
> Once when incoming call
>
> Answer/end the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call
>
> Reject the call
>
>
> Press and hold for 2 seconds
>
> Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
>
> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to
> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for
> the price. It generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its
> size.
>
>
>
> Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most
> switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the
> third button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and
> the sixth switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the
> third button from the left is used for.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don Roberts
>
>
>
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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Never mind.  I found the Tribit BT speaker at Amazon.  It looks like a very 
good deal with one exception.

 

A lot of reviews complained about the speaker shutting down while in use.  If 
it wasn’t for that, I think I would buy one.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

Send you a link to what exactly? I got the info about the multifunction button 
on the Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker on my own and input it manually into an 
Excel file.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 4:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

Can you send us a link?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

Hi Donald,

 

Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third from the 
left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a table documenting 
the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:

 


Number of presses

Function


Once

Play/pause


Twice

Skip to next track


3 times

Skip to previous track


Once when incoming call

Answer/end the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call

Reject the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds

Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it

 

Hope this helps.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to Christmas. 
I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for the price. It 
generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its size.

 

Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most 
switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the third 
button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and the sixth 
switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the third button from 
the left is used for.

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Hi,

 

When using this device with an iPhone to read Bard books, will the prior track 
and next track button move back or forward in a Bard book.

 

Thanks,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

Hi Donald,

 

Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third from the 
left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a table documenting 
the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:

 


Number of presses

Function


Once

Play/pause


Twice

Skip to next track


3 times

Skip to previous track


Once when incoming call

Answer/end the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call

Reject the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds

Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it

 

Hope this helps.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to Christmas. 
I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for the price. It 
generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its size.

 

Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most 
switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the third 
button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and the sixth 
switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the third button from 
the left is used for.

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[bentleyj1952]

Can you send us a link?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

Hi Donald,

 

Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third from the 
left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a table documenting 
the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:

 


Number of presses

Function


Once

Play/pause


Twice

Skip to next track


3 times

Skip to previous track


Once when incoming call

Answer/end the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call

Reject the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds

Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it

 

Hope this helps.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to Christmas. 
I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for the price. It 
generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its size.

 

Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most 
switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the third 
button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and the sixth 
switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the third button from 
the left is used for.

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

[bentleyj1952]

Yep, even reading the discription of this product at Amazon is like trying to 
put a jigsaw  puzzle together.  This product sounds like cheap junk.

 

James B 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

The fractured English tells me this product is from a no-name Chinese company, 
which makes me suspect that the battery is of low quality, and will charge very 
slowly.

If it were me, I’d skip this one, and look for something from Mophie, or 
another reputable brand name.

 

- Brad -

 

On Apr 4, 2021, at 14:27, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

The phone goes into the case very easily. It supposedly gives 1.5 times more 
life to the phone. The manual isn’t very good being written in fractured 
English.

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:26 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

I would be interested in a review if anyone does buy it.  For example how much 
longer do you get out of the phone before you have to charge the phone and 
case?  Does the case charge after the phone is charged?  How long do you need 
to leave the phone and case on the charger to charge them both?  How hard is it 
to get the phone into the case?

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 11:46 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

Please send a link?

I tried searching based on the name in your subject line and found nothing on 
Amazon to match.

They have that brands earbuds and docking station but I did not find that case.

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
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Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 8:26 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

Hi. Has anyone else bought and tried this case. It’s a wonderful price on 
Amazon of 

$16.99. I love its design but can’t work out how the power is used. It has a 
button on the back that supposedly turns on charge with a single tap and turns 
charge off with a double tap but I can’t determine whether the phone draws 
power from the battery first or the phone’s internal battery first. The 
documentation to me is unclear. Hope someone else has bought this thing and 
figured it out.

 

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RE: new phone

[bentleyj1952]

The iPhone SE 2020 is perfect for me.

 

It is super fast and it fits in my pocket.

 

It has amazing sound.

 

It will be supported by Apple for many years.

 

And, It doesn’t break the bank.

 

James B  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new phone

 

Larger screens require larger batteries, the SE 2020 has the same processor as 
the iPhone 11, it does not have Face Id, but for many that is of little concern 
and if you like smaller phones it's a great choice.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 On Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: new phone

 

The SE 2020 is a nice phone, but it's a bottom of the line phone with low end 
components. The battery in the SE 2020 definitely does not have the same 
capacity as the higher end iPhone 11.

This is the trade-off you make by going with the lower-priced phone.

- Brad -


On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:54, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I’m not sure what you mean here.

You said concerning battery “I have SE 2020 and 11 for work and it's not 
comparable...”

 

What isn’t comparable?

I know the 11 has a larger battery, but I use my SE 2020 a lot during the day 
and if I have to charge it at night I do, but I often get a full day’s use and 
often don’t need to charge it until the second day.

I play a couple simple games, do lots of email, web searching, listening to 
books, etc.

Or are you saying they are both way better than the iPhone X’s then yes, they 
are.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
l.d.ethie...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new phone

 

Hello,

my opinion is not also positive if we think about battery. I have SE 2020 and 
11 for work and it's not comparable...

Lyne





Le 31 mars 2021 à 13:23, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > a écrit :

I’ve never heard of a "10 XP”.  Perhaps you are meaning the iPhone XR, which 
is already several iterations old, and I don’t recommend getting this one.

The iPhone SE 2020 is a solid choice.  My wife has one, and I say you can’t go 
wrong with this choice, if you want to go with a basic iPhone that still uses a 
Home button.

As Richard pointed out, the SE 2020 is the same size as the iPhone 7 and 8, and 
your 6S as well, though a case for the older models won’t fit the newer SE 2020 
correctly, because the camera bump is slightly larger on the newer SE 2020.

 

HTH.


- Brad -

 

On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:12, Sharon Morton mailto:smorton5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello, I am coming to the end of a contract with Virgin, and my 6S. I have been 
offered a deal with Rogers for an 10 XP. I would like to know what your opinion 
is on this phone, compared to an SE 2020. Thanks

 

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RE: A couple questions about 2-factor authorization

[bentleyj1952]

Thank you Lana and Richard for the clarification and suggestions.

 

I will attempt a purchase on Amazon just to see if there are any problems.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A couple questions about 2-factor authorization

 

It is actually called Two Factor Authentication not authorization. 

Two factor authentication is more secure, because when you try to log into a 
new device or Apple service with a different device  your Apple ID, you will 
get an alert on your phone, or whatever your main device is asking if you want 
to allow that log in.

You hit allow and you will get a 6 digit cone you have to enter to continue.

The can be a pain, but it certainly is more secure. 

 

Richard

 

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living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

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Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:42 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

To start with, I do not know what 2-factor authorization really is.

 

But, I just upgraded my iPhone SE 2020 to the latest version of IOS.  When I 
restarted the phone, there was an email in my inbox from Apple letting me know 
that I had just enabled 2-factor authorization.

 

I probably wasn’t paying as good of attention as I should have but I do not 
remember authorizing any thing.

 

Anyway, is this a problem?  I am assuming that the 2-factor authorization is 
more secure.  And, what can I now expect to be different when using my phone?

 

Thanks for anyand all information,

 

James B  

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A couple questions about 2-factor authorization

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

To start with, I do not know what 2-factor authorization really is.

 

But, I just upgraded my iPhone SE 2020 to the latest version of IOS.  When I
restarted the phone, there was an email in my inbox from Apple letting me
know that I had just enabled 2-factor authorization.

 

I probably wasn't paying as good of attention as I should have but I do not
remember authorizing any thing.

 

Anyway, is this a problem?  I am assuming that the 2-factor authorization is
more secure.  And, what can I now expect to be different when using my
phone?

 

Thanks for anyand all information,

 

James B  

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RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

[bentleyj1952]

Thanks for all of the information.  I will share with my friend tomorrow night 
when we talk next.  I’m pretty sure that I now have enough information to help 
him out.

 

Thank you very much,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 4 :59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

It should be pretty easy to figure out.

Since the person is low-vision, he should be able to see it.  If he can’t see 
it , then perhaps he is a candidate for using VoiceOver on the watch.


- Brad -

 

On Mar 22, 2021, at 15:28, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

That might be a good solution, do you know which face that is?  There are a lot 
of faces to wade through especially since the person wanting this is brand new 
to the watch.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 12:22 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

There is a watch face available, that will display the time in very large 
digits.

This should be much more effective than increasing the size of regular text on 
the watch face.

- Brad -


On Mar 22, 2021, at 13:59, Richard Turner < 
 richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Tell him after opening settings on the watch, the settings he wants are in the 
display and brightness settings where you can set the always on and adjust the 
text size, etc.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,  

 www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
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 bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 11:58 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

I will share this with him.

 

Thank you very much.

 

James B  

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 1:55 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

There is an Always ON setting.

I think he can enable that through the settings on the watch.

He could hold in the crown and ask Siri to open settings and then navigate 
through.

If I find more info I’ll pass it along.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,  

 www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
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 bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 11:46 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

Hi all,

 

I have a friend with very low vision who recently purchased his first Apple 6S 
watch.

 

I wonder if what he is wanting is even possible with this watch.

 

He wants the watch to display the time in large numbers at all times unless he 
presses the crown and issues instructions to do something else.

 

He often accidentally touches the screen or gets the screen to close to objects 
and the time display is gone when he just wanted to visually check out the time.

 

I have never used an Apple watch so I hope I have given a clear enough 
description to explain his needs.

 

He just wants the watch to always display the time unless 

RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

[bentleyj1952]

OK, this sounds like what he is looking for.  He will be glad to get this 
resolved.

 

I thank you very much.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

Tell him after opening settings on the watch, the settings he wants are in the 
display and brightness settings where you can set the always on and adjust the 
text size, etc.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

I will share this with him.

 

Thank you very much.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

There is an Always ON setting.

I think he can enable that through the settings on the watch.

He could hold in the crown and ask Siri to open settings and then navigate 
through.

If I find more info I’ll pass it along.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: A question for a friend about his new 6S Apple watch

 

Hi all,

 

I have a friend with very low vision who recently purchased his first Apple 6S 
watch.

 

I wonder if what he is wanting is even possible with this watch.

 

He wants the watch to display the time in large numbers at all times unless he 
presses the crown and issues instructions to do something else.

 

He often accidentally touches the screen or gets the screen to close to objects 
and the time display is gone when he just wanted to visually check out the time.

 

I have never used an Apple watch so I hope I have given a clear enough 
description to explain his needs.

 

He just wants the watch to always display the time unless he presses the crown 
to use other features.

 

Many thanks for any assistance,

 

James B

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