RE: trying to deside on what phone to upgrade to from the I Phone 8 64 bit.

[terrieter]

Hi everyone,

I also bought the 13 Pro a month ago. I love love love it and can’t wait to use 
LIDAR as I think is going to be possible in iOS 16.

Terrie Terlau

 

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Subject: RE: trying to deside on what phone to upgrade to from the I Phone 8 64 
bit.

 

Hey Mich. If you can swing it and are interested in lidar, the 13 pro is an 
excellent choice. I bought the 250 gig back in May and love it. The battery is 
excellent. 

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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mi...@eastlink.ca  
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Subject: trying to deside on what phone to upgrade to from the I Phone 8 64 bit.

 

Hi all. I would like the lists thoughts. I am running a I phone 8 with 64 bit 
running ios15.5 and am able to upgrade it. I am trying to find out what I 
should upgrade it to. I am blind and am a exclusive voice over user. I have 
herd different things about the newer I phones that are out now like the I 
phone 13 I phone 13 max and others like the I phone SE3. some things I am 
thinking about are battery life and storage space. As some one who is blind I 
don’t really cair that mutch about the camra since I use it some times to take 
picks but not that offen. I would like to know what the lists thoughts on what 
I should upgrade it to as some one who uses voice over only and the camra and 
other things not that mutch. Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.

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RE: Accessibility Of Ring app

[terrieter]

Also, could someone share the names of the products that work with the Ring 
app? I am interested in one that will let me talk to someone at my door. Video 
would be nice too. Thanks very much for sharing all of this helpful information.

Terrie Terlau

 

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Subject: RE: Accessibility Of Ring app

 

Do you pay for the cloud service?

 

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Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessibility Of Ring app

 

What do you 
want to know? If you’re totally blind, you obviously won’t see who’s there but 
you can talk to them and it will be like a phone call. The person at your door 
can’t see you. You can also send the video to anybody you’d like so if you 
don’t know where a package is at your door, you can send the video to someone 
who doesn’t have ring and they can play it. I’ve sent some cute videos of my 
kids to Grandma that way and once when we had a package dropped off I sent the 
video to my dad and asked him to take a look, my husband was busy, my dad 
wasn’t and I wanted the package in before it started raining. 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessibility Of Ring app

 

We know nothing about this, and have wondered about it for awhile. If anyone 
would like, you could write and tell us at either 

 

curtis1...@verizon.net   or

catwa...@verizon.net  

 

We’d really appreciate any wisdom on this system and all the ins and outs, but 
we don’t want to clog up the list.

 

Thanks ever so much,

Karen

 

 

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Subject: RE: Accessibility Of Ring app

 

It is, and I love it. 

 

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Subject: Accessibility Of Ring app

 

Hi all:

Since Amazon Prime day is almost upon us.. I’m thinking about buying the ring 
pro2 doorbell, and ring floodlights. Is the iOS app for Ring accessible? If not 
accessible, is it usable? Will also do their cloud subscription to offload my 
videos. Any thoughts?

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RE: Ring video doorbell

[terrieter]

Hi Robin,
Thanks very very much. This is very helpful.
Terrie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ring video doorbell

Hi,

Yes you can use the app to speak to someone outside though sometimes it takes a 
few more seconds than I'd like to open the app and get to the right button. But 
I also wanted to mention that if you had an Amazon Echo you can use newer 
models to say wake word answer front door or wherever you have your bell set up 
and speak through it as well. Some find this method quicker if at home. When 
done you can say wake word end call and there you are.

I hope that helps.

Take good care.

Robin


On 3/26/2022 9:17 AM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Does the ring Doorbell app allow you to speak to the person outside the door 
> so that you can find out who it is before you open the door? Just wanted to 
> make sure before I bought one.
> Thanks very much.
> Terrie Terlau
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Molly O'Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 8:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Ring video doorbell
>
> My husband and I have a Ring Doorbell and a few spotlight cams. He is 
> sighted, so he set up the various camera sensitivities, but I have had no 
> problems using the app.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 25, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2022, at 10:15, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey everyone
>>> I’ve got a question about Ring video doorbell and their app 
>>> accessibility Has anyone using it?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Orbit Writer

[terrieter]

Hi Brandon,
My neighbor put the lanyard on for me. I'm sorry, but I don't know how he did 
it. I have seen the two little holes on other small cases that say they can 
have a lanyard attached and I don't know how this process works. I wish I could 
be of help.
Best,
Terrie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
A. Olivares
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 10:08 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Orbit Writer

Would you be able to tell me how you connect the lanyard? I got one, and I see 
there are two small holes in the front of the Orbit Writer, but can't for the 
life of me figure out how it connects.

> On Mar 26, 2022, at 10:01 AM,   wrote:
> 
> Hi Joshua,
> I am selling an Orbit Writer with the AT Guys case and a lanyard. As this is 
> not a buying-selling list, please write to me off list for more info if you 
> are interested.
> I am Terrie Terlau, terrie...@gmail.com Best, Terrie Terlau
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 2:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
> 
> I really like my Hable One.  I'm almost tempted to get an orbit writer just 
> to compare the 2 braille bluetooth keyboards.  However, if I get an orbit 
> writer and don't like it I don't want to have spent $100 and not be able to 
> get my money back.  I also have my input set to contracted braille and words 
> for my typing.  It works quite well.
> 
> On 3/26/22, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>> I just wanted to reply to this because I just got the Orbit Writer 
>> and have been playing around with the settings.
>> 
>> These are the options that worked best for me:
>> 
>> Braille input: contracted (automatically translate) Typing feedback: 
>> words
>> 
>> I find it gets way less confused when I have it on words. Backspace 
>> doesn't tell me every character, but if I backspace through an entire 
>> word, it'll tell me the word I just deleted, so it works fine for me.
>> 
>> It now works very reliably and I have not had any issues with it.
>> 
>> My wife is ambivalent about it so far, but I like it personally.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:12 PM Jennie Facer 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> For some reason, I can't get the Orbt writer to tell me what I am 
>>> backspacing. I may toy turning my settings to words or something to 
>>> see if that works, but for now, I can't tell what I'm writing.
>>> 
>>> jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
 On Mar 21, 2022, at 2:16 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 
>>> wrote:
 
 My Orbit Writer does announce what I'm deleting when I backspace. 
 I
>>> can't track down a setting that would change this though. I will say 
>>> though that if you're using contracted braille then the Orbit Writer 
>>> will get confused when you start backspacing. You can avoid this by 
>>> using uncontracted braille or switching to the on screen keyboard to 
>>> do your deleting.
 
 I was also just looking through my Orbit Writer documentation, and
>>> another misconception I'd like to clear up is that you can connect 
>>> your Orbit Writer through the braille support in VoiceOver, but you 
>>> can also connect it as a keyboard through the Bluetooth settings. I 
>>> don't do this myself, but I know some expressed a concern about 
>>> having to go through the VoiceOver settings to pair the Orbit Writer.
>>> Obvoiusly, if you skip VoiceOver then you'll be losing out on 
>>> functionality you only get through VoiceOver.
 
 --
 Christopher (AKA CJ)
 Chaltain at Outlook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of
>>> Brandon A. Olivares
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 4:06 PM
 To: VIPhone 
 Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
 
 Please let me know about the backspace thing, as I'd think that 
 could
>>> get annoying.
 
 Brandon
 
> On Mar 2, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
>>> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, I'll have to take a look, but I'd think this could be changed 
> in
>>> IOS's keyboard or braille settings.
> 
> I too love my Orbit Writer. I like the fact that I can pair it to
>>> multiple devise and then switch between them. The only thing I 
>>> thought was a challenge, and this isn't the fault of the device 
>>> itself, is all of the keyboard commands I tried to learn to replace 
>>> any on screen gesture I might use. There's just a lot of them and 
>>> there's only so much Apple and Orbit can do to make them intuitive.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of
>>> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
> 
> The only thing I did not like about the Writer is that when i
>>> backspaced something, it 

RE: Orbit Writer

[terrieter]

Hi Joshua,
I am selling an Orbit Writer with the AT Guys case and a lanyard. As this is 
not a buying-selling list, please write to me off list for more info if you are 
interested.
I am Terrie Terlau, terrie...@gmail.com
Best,
Terrie Terlau


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 2:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Writer

I really like my Hable One.  I'm almost tempted to get an orbit writer just to 
compare the 2 braille bluetooth keyboards.  However, if I get an orbit writer 
and don't like it I don't want to have spent $100 and not be able to get my 
money back.  I also have my input set to contracted braille and words for my 
typing.  It works quite well.

On 3/26/22, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> I just wanted to reply to this because I just got the Orbit Writer and 
> have been playing around with the settings.
>
> These are the options that worked best for me:
>
> Braille input: contracted (automatically translate) Typing feedback: 
> words
>
> I find it gets way less confused when I have it on words. Backspace 
> doesn't tell me every character, but if I backspace through an entire 
> word, it'll tell me the word I just deleted, so it works fine for me.
>
> It now works very reliably and I have not had any issues with it.
>
> My wife is ambivalent about it so far, but I like it personally.
>
> Brandon
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:12 PM Jennie Facer 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For some reason, I can't get the Orbt writer to tell me what I am 
>> backspacing. I may toy turning my settings to words or something to 
>> see if that works, but for now, I can't tell what I'm writing.
>>
>> jenn
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>> > On Mar 21, 2022, at 2:16 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> > 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > My Orbit Writer does announce what I'm deleting when I backspace. 
>> > I
>> can't track down a setting that would change this though. I will say 
>> though that if you're using contracted braille then the Orbit Writer 
>> will get confused when you start backspacing. You can avoid this by 
>> using uncontracted braille or switching to the on screen keyboard to 
>> do your deleting.
>> >
>> > I was also just looking through my Orbit Writer documentation, and
>> another misconception I'd like to clear up is that you can connect 
>> your Orbit Writer through the braille support in VoiceOver, but you 
>> can also connect it as a keyboard through the Bluetooth settings. I 
>> don't do this myself, but I know some expressed a concern about 
>> having to go through the VoiceOver settings to pair the Orbit Writer. 
>> Obvoiusly, if you skip VoiceOver then you'll be losing out on 
>> functionality you only get through VoiceOver.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> > Chaltain at Outlook
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> > Of
>> Brandon A. Olivares
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 4:06 PM
>> > To: VIPhone 
>> > Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
>> >
>> > Please let me know about the backspace thing, as I'd think that 
>> > could
>> get annoying.
>> >
>> > Brandon
>> >
>> >> On Mar 2, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> >> 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hmm, I'll have to take a look, but I'd think this could be changed 
>> >> in
>> IOS's keyboard or braille settings.
>> >>
>> >> I too love my Orbit Writer. I like the fact that I can pair it to
>> multiple devise and then switch between them. The only thing I 
>> thought was a challenge, and this isn't the fault of the device 
>> itself, is all of the keyboard commands I tried to learn to replace 
>> any on screen gesture I might use. There's just a lot of them and 
>> there's only so much Apple and Orbit can do to make them intuitive.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> >> Chaltain at Outlook
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> >> Behalf Of
>> Jennie Facer
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 10:51 AM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
>> >>
>> >> The only thing I did not like about the Writer is that when i
>> backspaced something, it would not tell me what i was deleting. Other 
>> than that, I love it!
>> >>
>> >> Jenn
>> >>
>> >> Jenn and Kumi
>> >>
>>  On Mar 2, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Brandon A. Olivares <
>> programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been seeing discussion of the Orbit Reader on the list. This
>> prompted me to look up the product as I had never heard of it before.
>> >>>
>> >>> That's when I discovered the Orbit Writer. I'm wondering if 
>> >>> anyone
>> here has used it and what your impression of it is? I don't care as 
>> much right now about having a braille display, but having an easier 
>> way to write in braille would be useful. Any input or tips would be 
>> appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Brandon
>> >>>
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RE: Ring video doorbell

[terrieter]

Hi Everyone,
Does the ring Doorbell app allow you to speak to the person outside the door so 
that you can find out who it is before you open the door? Just wanted to make 
sure before I bought one.
Thanks very much.
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Molly 
O'Sullivan
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ring video doorbell

My husband and I have a Ring Doorbell and a few spotlight cams. He is sighted, 
so he set up the various camera sensitivities, but I have had no problems using 
the app. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> Yes
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2022, at 10:15, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey everyone
>> I’ve got a question about Ring video doorbell and their app 
>> accessibility Has anyone using it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: light detector

[terrieter]

Hi Janet,
Seeing AI has a Light Detector item in its menu and it works well. You flick 
right till you are on the menu and then flick up through menu options till you 
come to the light detector. Sorry the Light detector app isn't working. I have 
used it a few days ago and it still worked for me. I'll have to try it now and 
see what it is doing or not doing.
Best,
Terrie Terlau

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Bell
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can anyone suggest an app for finding out if your lights are on. I used to use 
light detector but it doesn't seem to work these days.  Janet

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RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[terrieter]

Hi Mark,
Do you use these three apps all at the same time or do you choose the one that 
works best in a given area?
Thanks much.
Terrie Terlau

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 8:06 PM
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Subject: RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As for me, I use Good Maps Outdoors, Nearby Explorer, and Lazarillo GPS.  Each 
app works differently in various areas.  Between them, however, I get the info 
that I need.

Mark

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Arrigo
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Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good as 
nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since I 
think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>  
> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how it 
>> does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>  
>> Cher
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[terrieter]

Dear Julian,
It is working! I have installed Nearby Explorer and the map download is 80% 
complete. Thank you so much for responding to my email. I know a number of 
people as well as me who will be delighted. I can't thank you enough! My 
national maps just downloaded and now Kentucky is 100% downloaded and the map 
download is complete. You are my Nearby Explorer hero. Thank you again. This 
will make a huge difference in my  life.
Warm regards,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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RE: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[terrieter]

Hello Julian,
Oh, I am going to try this now! I had no idea that this might be possible. 
Thank you for your instructions. I'll let you all know if it works.
Terrie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[terrieter]

Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. Sometimes 
it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
Best,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections

Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good as 
nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since I 
think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>  
> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how it 
>> does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>  
>> Cher
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RE: App for counting steps

[terrieter]

My thanks to all of you for your responses! I am glad that my info was not 
accurate and that I can look into step counting using the iPhone with 
confidence.

You all rock.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

That could be difficult for those of us with large big toes,

 

I wonder how you could limit the jumping between the little toe?

 

Or could it be you have to tape or glue the phone to the sole of your shoe for 
it to count the number of steps your taking?

 

LOL.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 7:08 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

It should only count steps when typing if you put your phone on the floor and 
jump from letter to letter. Of course you'd have to do the ballet thing where 
you are on your tippy toes otherwise it won't work 藍

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 20, 2021 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

To test what the articles I’ve read are saying; check your step count, then 
walk a known path so you know how far you have walked.  Check the pedometer 
reading.

Later, see if you can take a ride in a vehicle on something very close to that 
same path and check the readings before and after.

My thought is, if it is truly measuring steps, it should not give you much 
after riding in a vehicle.

 

Besides, the keyboard business would only possibly be if one had an apple 
watch; but I doubt very much that would register typing unless you are a very 
dramatic typist, .

If the phone is in a pocket, I could see tapping one’s foot registering as 
steps.

That happens with some cheap standard pedometers you hang on a belt.

They also register riding in cars because the least vibration causes them to 
think you are walking…

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: App for counting steps

 

Hi.  I have used Pedometer ++ on the original iPhone SE and now on the 12 Pro 
and I haven't noticed foot tapping or keyboard use adding to step count.  I've 
experimented with this before and the only times steps register is when the 
phone is in a pocket or on the waste area, like it would be in a holster or in 
a fanny pack.  I can't speak about the native pedometer because I've never used 
it, but the Pedometer ++ app is accessible and has worked well for me.

 

Lisa

 

 

Lisa Belville 

missktlab1...@frontier.com  

On 9/20/2021 11:30 AM, terrie...@twc.com   wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if one 
taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a reasonably 
 accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would appreciate 
advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes movements other than 
walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for apps or other hardware 
that can give an accurate step count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any 
suggestions you can give.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with tons 
of app reviews and tutorials.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: App for counting steps

 

Hi people,

I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me how 
to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my questions.  
Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I ask.  Last, I 
am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions.  Is there a 
resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new things in 14?  
Yes, I realize that 15 has come 

RE: App for counting steps

[terrieter]

Hi everyone,

I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if one 
taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a reasonably 
 accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would appreciate 
advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes movements other than 
walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for apps or other hardware 
that can give an accurate step count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any 
suggestions you can give.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with tons 
of app reviews and tutorials.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App for counting steps

 

Hi people,

I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me how 
to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my questions.  
Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I ask.  Last, I 
am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions.  Is there a 
resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new things in 14?  
Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for now I want to learn 14 and then 
move on.  Thanks much all.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

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RE: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

[terrieter]

Hi Cristóbal and everyone,
For those of you who have used the Bluetooth Instant Pot, did you have to 
update your IOS to the latest version and did you have to update the Instant 
Pot app? Thanks for your guidance. I can't wait to use my Bluetooth Instant Pot 
again.
Best,
Terrie Terlau
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

Use the instant pot this morning and am happy to confirm that everything works 
as before. Didn't have to pare the IP again or anything.


Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.

No you shouldn't have to update your phone.  I have an iPhone that is still 
running IOS 12 and the smart cooker app showed up on it.  It would not update 
because the phone needed 13 or higher, but it was there.  I'd wait to see if 
the app update shows up in a couple of days because sometimes update aren't 
rolled out the same day all over the country.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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-Aristotle.


- Original Message -
From: "Deb Cook Lewis" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.


I still have the old app but I don't see any update for it. I didn't update my 
phone though. I'm wondering if I have to update my phone for the update to 
appear or if my phone wasn't updated at some magic moment if I'll still not 
benefit. Sure would be ice if there was communication somewhere. I'm not sure 
if I should take the risk or not.

On 7/7/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> If you got rid of the app from your phone like I did, you should be 
> able to get it back as a previously purchased app. That's what I did. 
> I couldn't find it with an App Store search. But I was able to 
> re-download it because I had had it before.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 7, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>
>> ?I'm not seeing the update. Wonder if it's becuase I didn't let my 
>> phone update from when it stopped working for others? I do still have 
>> the app. I don't know how it can bet an update without being in the 
>> app store though. I guess I'll take a chance on updating the phone 
>> and see if I get the update to the app?
>>
>>> On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> I saw the update to the app on my phone this morning.  Wonder why 
>>> they changed their minds?  Just think of all the grumbles they got 
>>> from everyone
>>>
>>> that has the older pots.  It wouldn't have been just blind people 
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a 
>>> habit.
>>> -Aristotle.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Penny Reeder" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is such good news! Thank you for sharing it.
>>> Penny
>>>
 On 7/7/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
 I think it is the second one from the bottom on the right hand column.
 You

 need to press and hold it for it to go in to pairing mode.  Hope 
 this helps.

 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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  - Original Message -
  From: Mary Otten
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2021 10:23 PM
  Subject: Re: the Instant Pot bluetooth app works again.


  Well I finally found my purchase history and I think I have 
 download the correct app. Now of course, it's not connected. Can 
 someone tell me please which button I have to press to make this 
 happen? I don't recall.



  Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Cristobal Munoz 
 
 wrote:


?
I still had it on my phone. Doing a quick search in the App 
 Store, it doesn't seem to come up though. I don't know if it will 
 come up in the purchase history if you by any chance removed it.


  On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Kay Malmquist 
 
 wrote:


  ?
  Wow!  that is way cool!  Did you have to download the new app 
 or did you still have the old one?

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, 
 but a habit.
  -Aristotle.


- Original Message -
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 

RE: Beets Blu bathroom scale app

[terrieter]

I am having trouble with the Renpho Bluetooth scale hpairing with the app on my 
iPhone. Has anyone successfully paired this phone? Any tips would be 
appreciated. Also I would appreciate knowing what accessible scale you bought.
Thanks very much.
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beets Blu bathroom scale app

Ran into the same thing about three months ago… Ended up buying a new scale…

Sent from my IPhome.

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> Hello,
> 
> I’ve had this scale for several years but have not used it for about a year.  
> This morning I discovered that my app is out dated and no longer in the app 
> store.  I’ve been looking for the Beets Blu  site on Google with no luck and 
> then I discovered an app with the same name (samrt scale) in the app store 
> but it is not accessible.
> 
> 
> So, after all of this I’m wondering if anyone else is using this scale and if 
> so what have you done about the app issue?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kim
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RE: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

[terrieter]

Hi Tony,
I think you are marvelously creative and very intuitive to think of these apps. 
I love the idea of using your compass app to walk a straight line across a very 
wide open area. This is brilliant. Thank you so much for your work!
Smiles,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Compass and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind

Blind Compass  and Blind Bat - new apps for the blind Hello, My name is Tony 
and I wrote two iPhone apps for blind people and recently I published them in 
AppStore.
Blind Compass is a compass app specifically designed for blind people. I was 
surprised that such an app didn't seem to exist before - or am I missing 
something? First, it reports your heading continuously by varying pitch, so 
that even with not much musical training you can easily memorize how the right 
direction sounds like, and you'll be able to walk in straight line just by 
listening to your direction. ALso when your heading crosses North,East, South, 
or West you will hear that spoken to you.
I recommend to use Blind Compass with bone conductance bluetooth headphones. 
Bone conductance headphones don't block ears, so that you can hear sounds from 
the environment, as well as audio feedback from BlindCompasss.
You can also have your heading spoken by either pressing button in the app, or 
if you are using bluetooth headphones, you can press play button once.
Second, Blind Compass allows you to lock your direction. Either press lock 
button in the app, or press fast forward button on your headphones, or double 
press play button on your headphones, and your direction will be locked. You 
will hear auditory feedback guiding you back to the original heading. If you 
allow Blind Compass to use location data, then it will also count distance 
travelled from the point where you locked your location. This way you can cross 
vast open space without fear of veering.

Another app I wrote is Blind Bat - and it is designed to help people to learn 
echolocation. Maybe I'm not that good at it myself, but I wanted to play around 
with it, so I designed an app that would make ideal click, whatever that might 
entail. You have a few parameters you can adjust and the app would generate 
click sound that conforms to these parameters. You can specify mean frequency, 
bandwidth and duration of click.


If anyone is interested in source code:

https://github.com/mltony/blind-compass/

https://github.com/mltony/blind-bat/


Let me know what you think of them!
--Tony

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Accessible Bluetooth Accurate Scale

[terrieter]

Hello everyone,

I am looking for an accurate Bluetooth scale with an accessible app for the
iPhone. I only care about my weight. I don't need body composition or other
information. But I do want a scale that can be accurate within 2 tenths of a
pound. Is anyone using a scale with these features? If so, and if you like
the scale, could you send me the name and any other info I would need to
order it on line? I would appreciate this very very much.

Good wishes,

Terrie Terlau

 

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RE: Does anyone use the Apple battery case?

[terrieter]

Hi Dennis and everyone,

Below is what I bought from Amazon. I do sometimes get the message “This 
accessory may not be supported by this device.” However, when I then unplug the 
cable and plug it in again, I usually don’t get that message again. Another 
beware message: I have read that you are supposed to charge the battery cases 
and  the phone separately to prevent overheating. I have not done this and 
perhaps this is why I have had the problems I had with the Apple chargers.

However, here is what I bought from Amazon:

 

QTshine Battery Case for iPhone 6/6s/7/8, Upgraded [6000mAh] Protective 
Portable Charging Case Rechargeable Extended Battery Pack for Apple iPhone 
6/6s/7/8Sold by: 

QTshineDirect$25.95 

 

I don’t see the direct link to this product in my orders list, but if you 
search for the name, it should be there.

Hope this helps.

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the Apple battery case?

 

Terrie

Can you share what case your using and provide a link please if possible.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com  
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the Apple battery case?

 

Hi everyone,

I love the Apple battery cases, but I have had problems with the case for the 
iPhone 7. This is the case the Apple store sold me to be used with the iPhone 
8, as they are the same size. My first case lasted nine months and then started 
to charge very sporadically. The cable would charge the phone by itself, but 
not the case whether the phone was in it or not. So I went through the 
replacement process as this was still under warranty. I got a replacement, same 
model of case. My replacement lasted 3 months and then started to have the same 
charging problems as the first case. I made arrangements to send it back and 
get a new one as it was still under warranty. But then I charged the case for 
about 16 hours and it worked, so I canceled the return.  then it stopped 
charging, just like the first case. Again, the cable worked with the phone by 
itself, so the problem was not the charging cable. I then gave up as I was 
pretty sure I had passed the warranty time.

So, speaking for the iPhone  7 Apple battery case, I love it but I don’t trust 
its reliability. I hope the cases for other models do not have this problem. 
Right now, I am using a cheap battery case and it is currently working.

Hope this is useful.

Terrie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom 
Lange
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the Apple battery case?

 

aHi Kimberly,

I’ve used the Apple Smart Battery Case for years and I swear by it. Yes, it 
does add considerable heft to the phone, and, because I often carry my phone in 
my pants pocket along with keys, a nail clipper and assorted change from time 
to time, the satiny rubber covering can get kinda thrashed, but the case works 
like a champ. If I drop the phone it will usually land on its back because of 
the way the battery’s situated, so the case offers some good protection. Even 
the beveled edge of the case which is about 1/16 inch above the phone’s front 
face will keep the front glass from taking a direct hit. When you use the case, 
the battery in the case is discharged first, then the phone’s battery is 
engaged. 

My first battery case was a Mophie Juice Pack which worked well but was 
considerably bulkier than the Apple case. I liked the Apple’s form factor 
better so I switched.

Hope this helps.

Tom

 

 

On Nov 10, 2020, at 7:06 AM, Kimberly mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



What I’m wondering is how much bulk does it add to the phone? I have an SE 2020 
and the battery life is awful so I’m considering getting a battery case to 
boost my battery longevity during the day. Any thoughts appreciated.

 

 

 

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RE: Does anyone use the Apple battery case?

[terrieter]

Hi everyone,

I love the Apple battery cases, but I have had problems with the case for the 
iPhone 7. This is the case the Apple store sold me to be used with the iPhone 
8, as they are the same size. My first case lasted nine months and then started 
to charge very sporadically. The cable would charge the phone by itself, but 
not the case whether the phone was in it or not. So I went through the 
replacement process as this was still under warranty. I got a replacement, same 
model of case. My replacement lasted 3 months and then started to have the same 
charging problems as the first case. I made arrangements to send it back and 
get a new one as it was still under warranty. But then I charged the case for 
about 16 hours and it worked, so I canceled the return.  then it stopped 
charging, just like the first case. Again, the cable worked with the phone by 
itself, so the problem was not the charging cable. I then gave up as I was 
pretty sure I had passed the warranty time.

So, speaking for the iPhone  7 Apple battery case, I love it but I don’t trust 
its reliability. I hope the cases for other models do not have this problem. 
Right now, I am using a cheap battery case and it is currently working.

Hope this is useful.

Terrie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the Apple battery case?

 

aHi Kimberly,

I’ve used the Apple Smart Battery Case for years and I swear by it. Yes, it 
does add considerable heft to the phone, and, because I often carry my phone in 
my pants pocket along with keys, a nail clipper and assorted change from time 
to time, the satiny rubber covering can get kinda thrashed, but the case works 
like a champ. If I drop the phone it will usually land on its back because of 
the way the battery’s situated, so the case offers some good protection. Even 
the beveled edge of the case which is about 1/16 inch above the phone’s front 
face will keep the front glass from taking a direct hit. When you use the case, 
the battery in the case is discharged first, then the phone’s battery is 
engaged. 

My first battery case was a Mophie Juice Pack which worked well but was 
considerably bulkier than the Apple case. I liked the Apple’s form factor 
better so I switched.

Hope this helps.

Tom

 





On Nov 10, 2020, at 7:06 AM, Kimberly mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



What I’m wondering is how much bulk does it add to the phone? I have an SE 2020 
and the battery life is awful so I’m considering getting a battery case to 
boost my battery longevity during the day. Any thoughts appreciated.

 

 

 

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RE: Cheat-Sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

[terrieter]

Oh my goodness, I love this! Not only because of how you present it, but also 
because I do need to help a sighted person occasionally and with this I will 
stand at least a chance of doing so (smile).

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cheat-Sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

 


Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users


 

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

 

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

 

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.

 

This is a start anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

[terrieter]

GoodMaps Explorer does do outdoors. I just installed it and looked at POIs from 
inside my bedroom. It seemed accurate about what I know is around me. I like 
its tabs at the bottom of the screen; they make sense to me. It is a free 
download. Not sure if its maps are on line or are part of the download, though 
the download was fast so I conjecture that maps are online and not downloaded.

Will share more after I have used it outside.

 

A caviat about indoor maps for this application: someone has to map a space by 
walking around it with a backpack of equipment. I saw two places that had 
indoor maps within five miles of me: American Printing House for the Blind and 
the McDowell Rehabilitation Center, the state rehab facility for persons with 
visual impairments. Although the maps do not rely on installation of beacons or 
other hardware that must be maintained and powered , they do require someone 
with requisite equipment to walk around the space on all floors and then there 
are three more steps in making the maps. It is a good idea, but indoor mapping 
may be limited by how many facilities want to pay to be mapped and how many 
backpacks of equipment are floating around the country to be used to get the 
first level of map data.

 

On the plus side, this company is offering other applications of this 
technology, e.g., first responders. I would think such data could also be 
useful in coal mines when miners need to get out fast and can’t see because of 
smoke from a fire. Many facilities might be inclined to pay for initial map 
making for use in emergencies. This data would also make indoor maps for 
GoodMaps Explore.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 Thanks for this. 

Kristeen

 

 

On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Yes.

If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.

If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.

It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.

I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Hello,

 

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

 

Thanks,

 

Rena

 

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RE: Accessible thermometer

[terrieter]

Thanks, Richard. I wonder if Seeing AI or another app could read the numbers on 
the digital display? I realize  you don’t know this, just thinking out loud. 
Thanks for all that you share on this list. I appreciate your knowledge and 
having the benefit of what you share.

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Well, you learn something every day.

I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite a few 
ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.

https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com  
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead thermometers 
that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned across it. 

Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to keep 
looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 

 

On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com  " 
mailto:terrie...@twc.com> > wrote:

 

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that works 
with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

Terrie 
Terlau

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these days if 
multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could disinfect it 
each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers are definitely a 
better option right now and probably even if there weren’t a COVID-19 virus, 
after all, if you think you have a fever you probably want to avoid giving 
whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is not an issue if you are 
only 1 person who uses it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Good to know.

The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older model I have 
is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.

I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

There is also the “Thermo” from Nokia Health formerly Withings.

Below are links, first to the Withings website directly, then to the Canadian 
Apple, Amazon and Best Buy, after that the US Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy and 
Walmart. Finally I put the links for the Thermo app on both the Canadian and US 
App Stores. The only problem is that it seems you are not going to be able to 
find one since they show as sold out everywhere or, in the case of Amazon, as 
“currently unavailable”, I guess that is probably a result of COVID-19.

I haven’t checked, but that may very well be the case for the Kinsa thermometer 
as well.

The Thermo, by the way, connects via WiFi, not Bluetooth. we have had ours for 
probably 3 years or a bit longer and I hadn’t used it until recently for about 
2 years because just before Christmas 2017 was the only and last time I was 
sick with the flu and a fever in probably 10 years.

I did use it a bit more often recently just checking myself since I do have a 
retail store and am out in public every day. I realized I hadn’t even connected 
it yet to my iPhone 8 which I got a year and a half ago, but as before the 
connection was easy and quick and after signing in to the app with my user name 

RE: Accessible thermometer

[terrieter]

The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead thermometers 
that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned across it. 

Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer

 

I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact. 

But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to keep 
looking until they find a supplier that still has some.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 





On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com"  wrote:

 

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that works 
with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

Terrie 
Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these days if 
multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could disinfect it 
each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers are definitely a 
better option right now and probably even if there weren’t a COVID-19 virus, 
after all, if you think you have a fever you probably want to avoid giving 
whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is not an issue if you are 
only 1 person who uses it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Good to know.

The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older model I have 
is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.

I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

There is also the “Thermo” from Nokia Health formerly Withings.

Below are links, first to the Withings website directly, then to the Canadian 
Apple, Amazon and Best Buy, after that the US Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy and 
Walmart. Finally I put the links for the Thermo app on both the Canadian and US 
App Stores. The only problem is that it seems you are not going to be able to 
find one since they show as sold out everywhere or, in the case of Amazon, as 
“currently unavailable”, I guess that is probably a result of COVID-19.

I haven’t checked, but that may very well be the case for the Kinsa thermometer 
as well.

The Thermo, by the way, connects via WiFi, not Bluetooth. we have had ours for 
probably 3 years or a bit longer and I hadn’t used it until recently for about 
2 years because just before Christmas 2017 was the only and last time I was 
sick with the flu and a fever in probably 10 years.

I did use it a bit more often recently just checking myself since I do have a 
retail store and am out in public every day. I realized I hadn’t even connected 
it yet to my iPhone 8 which I got a year and a half ago, but as before the 
connection was easy and quick and after signing in to the app with my user name 
and password my wife’s and my own profiles showed up and I could still see the 
measurements I took back in 2017.

The Thermo also has a display where a sighted person can instantly read the 
result, otherwise you can get the result inside the app about 15 or so seconds 
after the reading is complete.

There is one single button. You press it once and the thermometer makes a small 
vibration which means it’s ready. You have to be a little bit quick and have it 
ready pointing to the middle of your forehead about half an inch or so away 
from your skin since the measuring starts right away after the vibration and 
only lasts for about 4 or 5 seconds.

It reads the temperature contactless, as soon as it vibrates you smoothly move 
it from the middle of your forehead to your temple and stop there, the Thermo 
will vibrate twice to indicate it has finished the reading.

After you do this a few times you quickly get the hang of how fast you have to 
move it across your forehead so you get to your temple just before the second 
double vibration.

Even if you take a reading without the Thermo app open you soon get a 
notification that a new temperature reading is available, if you double tap on 
that notification the app opens and shows the profiles you have set up.

In our case it shows “Me” which is me and it shows “Jackie” which is my wife. 
Above 

RE: Accessible thermometer

[terrieter]

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that works 
with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?

Terrie 
Terlau

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these days if 
multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could disinfect it 
each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers are definitely a 
better option right now and probably even if there weren’t a COVID-19 virus, 
after all, if you think you have a fever you probably want to avoid giving 
whatever causes it to anybody else. Of course that is not an issue if you are 
only 1 person who uses it.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

Good to know.

The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older model I have 
is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.

I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer

 

There is also the “Thermo” from Nokia Health formerly Withings.

Below are links, first to the Withings website directly, then to the Canadian 
Apple, Amazon and Best Buy, after that the US Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy and 
Walmart. Finally I put the links for the Thermo app on both the Canadian and US 
App Stores. The only problem is that it seems you are not going to be able to 
find one since they show as sold out everywhere or, in the case of Amazon, as 
“currently unavailable”, I guess that is probably a result of COVID-19.

I haven’t checked, but that may very well be the case for the Kinsa thermometer 
as well.

The Thermo, by the way, connects via WiFi, not Bluetooth. we have had ours for 
probably 3 years or a bit longer and I hadn’t used it until recently for about 
2 years because just before Christmas 2017 was the only and last time I was 
sick with the flu and a fever in probably 10 years.

I did use it a bit more often recently just checking myself since I do have a 
retail store and am out in public every day. I realized I hadn’t even connected 
it yet to my iPhone 8 which I got a year and a half ago, but as before the 
connection was easy and quick and after signing in to the app with my user name 
and password my wife’s and my own profiles showed up and I could still see the 
measurements I took back in 2017.

The Thermo also has a display where a sighted person can instantly read the 
result, otherwise you can get the result inside the app about 15 or so seconds 
after the reading is complete.

There is one single button. You press it once and the thermometer makes a small 
vibration which means it’s ready. You have to be a little bit quick and have it 
ready pointing to the middle of your forehead about half an inch or so away 
from your skin since the measuring starts right away after the vibration and 
only lasts for about 4 or 5 seconds.

It reads the temperature contactless, as soon as it vibrates you smoothly move 
it from the middle of your forehead to your temple and stop there, the Thermo 
will vibrate twice to indicate it has finished the reading.

After you do this a few times you quickly get the hang of how fast you have to 
move it across your forehead so you get to your temple just before the second 
double vibration.

Even if you take a reading without the Thermo app open you soon get a 
notification that a new temperature reading is available, if you double tap on 
that notification the app opens and shows the profiles you have set up.

In our case it shows “Me” which is me and it shows “Jackie” which is my wife. 
Above that it then shows an unassigned reading, if you double tap on that 
Voiceover reads out the date, time and the temperature and you can then double 
tap on whichever profile you want to assign that reading to. It’s very 
accessible, very simple and reliable.

After you are done you just put on the soft silicon cover and the Thermo will 
turn itself off, if you want to take a second reading you just press the button 
again and repeat. You can take 2 or 3 readings one after another and if you do 
this you’ll see in the app that it will say that there are 2, 3 or however many 
readings you took which are unassigned, you can tap on each one and assign it 
or if they are all from yourself you can tap