RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello Brandon, Wow! This sounds very exciting. I, for one, will definitely check it out and encourage others to do the same. Thank you ever so much. Mark From: Brandon Butler [mailto:hackmodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:53 PM To: VIPhone Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks I ended up creating an app that solves the issue :D Check out Undulib.com for more details. Undulib is available on the Appstore now. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 2:52:17 AM UTC-4, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello Brandon, As this is a rather high-traffic list, you may not have read my subsequent posts in this thread. My solution to listening to manually created audio books in iOS 8.4 is to use the iOS native podcast app. To my complete delight, I have discovered that I prefer using the podcast app to the iOS 8.3 music app as the podcast app has a much better built-in sleep timer than the one included in the native iOS clock. The setting I have come to love is the one that stops playback at the end of an individual episode. Mark From: Brandon Butler [mailto:hackmodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks I'm literally in the same boat. I'm so glad to find another audio drama listener ;) I've submitted a couple bug reports to Apple regarding this. One alternative is to use the Audible app to listen to audiobooks synced via iTunes instead. It's not perfect (it can't sort the titles by sort title metedata), but it's a step in the right direction and requires no change on your part. On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 2:52:17 AM UTC-4, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https
Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
I've seen a few podcasts in M4A which is (AFAIK) an Apple audio format for MP3. But the majority of podcast files are .mp3. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 4:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Keith, Generally speaking, there is no specific Apple-designated file extension for podcast files. Ifyou think about it, such an extension would work against Apple as most podcasters publish their podcast episodes using .mp3. To manually designate a .mp3 (music) file as a podcast, do the following: 1. Open iTunes on your computer. 2. Import the desired .mp3 file or files. They will appear in the Music area of your iTunes Library. 3. Locate the file or files and select them either one at a time or in a group. 4. Now, right-mouse click on the selected file or files. A list box will appear. 5. Select Get Info. A multi-tab dialog box will appear. 6. Select the Options tab. 7. In the Media Kind drop-down list box, select Podcast. 8. Save the changes. The file or files will now be moved, and consequently listed in the Podcast area of your iTunes library. Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 7:55 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks What's the file extension for podcast files? i.e. .m4a for audio, .m4b for books, .m4r for ringtones, etc. Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Frank, Thank you so much for your very thoughtful reply and for your precisely stated options. As I posted in a different thread, my solution to this conundrum is to simply tag the files as I normally would but, under the media type, select Podcast rather than Audiobook. Given that I do not use the native iOS podcast app for listening to actual podcast, choosing instead to use DownCast, the podcast area of my iTunes library is completely empty of any live podcast feeds. Consequently, all I see when I open this area of iTunes is the list of books. After syncing to my iOS device, launching the native podcast app displays all of my manually created audiobooks. Single-finger double-tapping on any of the books results in each title being displayed just as it used to be displayed in iOS 8.3 and earlier. While I have no objection to third-party apps, I really do try to use as many native iOS apps as possible. It took over a year or so but I have finally found a practival use for the native podcast app (smile). Thank you again for your help on this. Happy Listening, Mark From: Frank Wassermann [mailto:f.wasserm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks 1. Juli 2015 08:52:17 UTC+2 M. Taylor: snip So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. snip If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. snip I have exactly the same problem with audio books being handled by the ibooks app on IOS 8.4. As long as Apple won't display track names instead of track numbers (and I fear they won't at all) I see only two approaches to solve this problem: 1) Tag all audio book files as music so that they will be displayed in the music app. Although this seems to solve your problem the drawback is that your music library gets cluttered
Re: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
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RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
What's the file extension for podcast files? i.e. .m4a for audio, .m4b for books, .m4r for ringtones, etc. Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Frank, Thank you so much for your very thoughtful reply and for your precisely stated options. As I posted in a different thread, my solution to this conundrum is to simply tag the files as I normally would but, under the media type, select Podcast rather than Audiobook. Given that I do not use the native iOS podcast app for listening to actual podcast, choosing instead to use DownCast, the podcast area of my iTunes library is completely empty of any live podcast feeds. Consequently, all I see when I open this area of iTunes is the list of books. After syncing to my iOS device, launching the native podcast app displays all of my manually created audiobooks. Single-finger double-tapping on any of the books results in each title being displayed just as it used to be displayed in iOS 8.3 and earlier. While I have no objection to third-party apps, I really do try to use as many native iOS apps as possible. It took over a year or so but I have finally found a practival use for the native podcast app (smile). Thank you again for your help on this. Happy Listening, Mark From: Frank Wassermann [mailto:f.wasserm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks 1. Juli 2015 08:52:17 UTC+2 M. Taylor: snip So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. snip If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. snip I have exactly the same problem with audio books being handled by the ibooks app on IOS 8.4. As long as Apple won't display track names instead of track numbers (and I fear they won't at all) I see only two approaches to solve this problem: 1) Tag all audio book files as music so that they will be displayed in the music app. Although this seems to solve your problem the drawback is that your music library gets cluttered with audio books and if you don't tag them to be skipped when playing in random mode they will also be selected along with your music files. 2) Change the album name of the audio book files to the names of the specific episode. So in your case the albums would be called Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room all having Beyond Midnight set as artist. Problem here is that you get a lot of seperate audio books in the ibooks app (I got a show with 73 episodes...) Currently I see no other solution to this. HTH, Frank -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All
RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
usually podcasts are just regular mp3 files. At 10:54 AM 7/3/2015, you wrote: What's the file extension for podcast files? i.e. .m4a for audio, .m4b for books, .m4r for ringtones, etc. Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Frank, Thank you so much for your very thoughtful reply and for your precisely stated options. As I posted in a different thread, my solution to this conundrum is to simply tag the files as I normally would but, under the media type, select Podcast rather than Audiobook. Given that I do not use the native iOS podcast app for listening to actual podcast, choosing instead to use DownCast, the podcast area of my iTunes library is completely empty of any live podcast feeds. Consequently, all I see when I open this area of iTunes is the list of books. After syncing to my iOS device, launching the native podcast app displays all of my manually created audiobooks. Single-finger double-tapping on any of the books results in each title being displayed just as it used to be displayed in iOS 8.3 and earlier. While I have no objection to third-party apps, I really do try to use as many native iOS apps as possible. It took over a year or so but I have finally found a practival use for the native podcast app (smile). Thank you again for your help on this. Happy Listening, Mark From: Frank Wassermann [ mailto:f.wasserm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks 1. Juli 2015 08:52:17 UTC+2 M. Taylor: snip So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. snip If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. snip I have exactly the same problem with audio books being handled by the ibooks app on IOS 8.4. As long as Apple won't display track names instead of track numbers (and I fear they won't at all) I see only two approaches to solve this problem: 1) Tag all audio book files as music so that they will be displayed in the music app. Although this seems to solve your problem the drawback is that your music library gets cluttered with audio books and if you don't tag them to be skipped when playing in random mode they will also be selected along with your music files. 2) Change the album name of the audio book files to the names of the specific episode. So in your case the albums would be called Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room all having Beyond Midnight set as artist. Problem here is that you get a lot of seperate audio books in the ibooks app (I got a show with 73 episodes...) Currently I see no other solution to this. HTH, Frank -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All
RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello Keith, Generally speaking, there is no specific Apple-designated file extension for podcast files. Ifyou think about it, such an extension would work against Apple as most podcasters publish their podcast episodes using .mp3. To manually designate a .mp3 (music) file as a podcast, do the following: 1. Open iTunes on your computer. 2. Import the desired .mp3 file or files. They will appear in the Music area of your iTunes Library. 3. Locate the file or files and select them either one at a time or in a group. 4. Now, right-mouse click on the selected file or files. A list box will appear. 5. Select Get Info. A multi-tab dialog box will appear. 6. Select the Options tab. 7. In the Media Kind drop-down list box, select Podcast. 8. Save the changes. The file or files will now be moved, and consequently listed in the Podcast area of your iTunes library. Good Luck, Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 7:55 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks What's the file extension for podcast files? i.e. .m4a for audio, .m4b for books, .m4r for ringtones, etc. Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 2:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Frank, Thank you so much for your very thoughtful reply and for your precisely stated options. As I posted in a different thread, my solution to this conundrum is to simply tag the files as I normally would but, under the media type, select Podcast rather than Audiobook. Given that I do not use the native iOS podcast app for listening to actual podcast, choosing instead to use DownCast, the podcast area of my iTunes library is completely empty of any live podcast feeds. Consequently, all I see when I open this area of iTunes is the list of books. After syncing to my iOS device, launching the native podcast app displays all of my manually created audiobooks. Single-finger double-tapping on any of the books results in each title being displayed just as it used to be displayed in iOS 8.3 and earlier. While I have no objection to third-party apps, I really do try to use as many native iOS apps as possible. It took over a year or so but I have finally found a practival use for the native podcast app (smile). Thank you again for your help on this. Happy Listening, Mark From: Frank Wassermann [mailto:f.wasserm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks 1. Juli 2015 08:52:17 UTC+2 M. Taylor: snip So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. snip If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. snip I have exactly the same problem with audio books being handled by the ibooks app on IOS 8.4. As long as Apple won't display track names instead of track numbers (and I fear they won't at all) I see only two approaches to solve this problem: 1) Tag all audio book files as music so that they will be displayed in the music app. Although this seems to solve your problem the drawback is that your music library gets cluttered with audio books and if you don't tag them to be skipped when playing in random mode they will also be selected along with your music files. 2) Change the album name of the audio book files to the names of the specific episode. So in your case the albums would be called Let me See Your Face
RE: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello Daniel, This was an excellent suggestion; one that I had considered earlier but had not yet tested. However, upon reading your post, I did test your suggestion and am sorry to say that the results were no different from those experienced with .mp3 files. The problem is with the iBooks app, not the files, themselves. The developers must allow iBooks to display individual track titles, when provided. Both the native music and podcast apps respect such metadata. My personal opinion is that the developers probably did not take into account that people like to make their own audiobook volumes consisting of various episode titles. My hope is that, should enough people report the oversight, it will be corrected in iOS 9. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 1:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hi Mark. Can I offer another suggestion? Instead of converting the files to MP3, convert them to him for a, but change the eight to a beat. That way they'll be tagged as an audiobook, and should theoretically have your title is intact. Just a suggestion though, I'm not sure if that will work. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:59 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello All, As you may recall, I posted a message to the list discussing my dismay at the loss of manually-created audiobook chapter heading or individual episode title navigation as a result of Apple's decision to move native audiobook playback from the native iOS Music app to iBooks. By the way, as stated in my previous post, I did submit a bug report to Apple about this issue. Today, during a very pleasant phone discussion with an extremely kind list member, who responded to my request for a Voice Dream Reader conversation, it occurred to me that, as a workaround, instead of tagging the .mp3 files as audiobooks, via iTunes, I could simply change the media type to Podcast, instead. Then, after syncing my iOS device as I would normally do, simply listen to the manually-created audiobooks, complete with chapter heading or individual episode title navigation intact, using the native Apple Podcast app. I am delighted to say that this workaround is working perfectly in iOS 8.4. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can
RE: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello Frank, Thank you so much for your very thoughtful reply and for your precisely stated options. As I posted in a different thread, my solution to this conundrum is to simply tag the files as I normally would but, under the media type, select Podcast rather than Audiobook. Given that I do not use the native iOS podcast app for listening to actual podcast, choosing instead to use DownCast, the podcast area of my iTunes library is completely empty of any live podcast feeds. Consequently, all I see when I open this area of iTunes is the list of books. After syncing to my iOS device, launching the native podcast app displays all of my manually created audiobooks. Single-finger double-tapping on any of the books results in each title being displayed just as it used to be displayed in iOS 8.3 and earlier. While I have no objection to third-party apps, I really do try to use as many native iOS apps as possible. It took over a year or so but I have finally found a practival use for the native podcast app (smile). Thank you again for your help on this. Happy Listening, Mark From: Frank Wassermann [mailto:f.wasserm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: mk...@ucla.edu Subject: Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks 1. Juli 2015 08:52:17 UTC+2 M. Taylor: snip So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. snip If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. snip I have exactly the same problem with audio books being handled by the ibooks app on IOS 8.4. As long as Apple won't display track names instead of track numbers (and I fear they won't at all) I see only two approaches to solve this problem: 1) Tag all audio book files as music so that they will be displayed in the music app. Although this seems to solve your problem the drawback is that your music library gets cluttered with audio books and if you don't tag them to be skipped when playing in random mode they will also be selected along with your music files. 2) Change the album name of the audio book files to the names of the specific episode. So in your case the albums would be called Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room all having Beyond Midnight set as artist. Problem here is that you get a lot of seperate audio books in the ibooks app (I got a show with 73 episodes...) Currently I see no other solution to this. HTH, Frank -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello All, As you may recall, I posted a message to the list discussing my dismay at the loss of manually-created audiobook chapter heading or individual episode title navigation as a result of Apple's decision to move native audiobook playback from the native iOS Music app to iBooks. By the way, as stated in my previous post, I did submit a bug report to Apple about this issue. Today, during a very pleasant phone discussion with an extremely kind list member, who responded to my request for a Voice Dream Reader conversation, it occurred to me that, as a workaround, instead of tagging the .mp3 files as audiobooks, via iTunes, I could simply change the media type to Podcast, instead. Then, after syncing my iOS device as I would normally do, simply listen to the manually-created audiobooks, complete with chapter heading or individual episode title navigation intact, using the native Apple Podcast app. I am delighted to say that this workaround is working perfectly in iOS 8.4. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hi Mark. Can I offer another suggestion? Instead of converting the files to MP3, convert them to him for a, but change the eight to a beat. That way they'll be tagged as an audiobook, and should theoretically have your title is intact. Just a suggestion though, I'm not sure if that will work. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:59 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello All, As you may recall, I posted a message to the list discussing my dismay at the loss of manually-created audiobook chapter heading or individual episode title navigation as a result of Apple's decision to move native audiobook playback from the native iOS Music app to iBooks. By the way, as stated in my previous post, I did submit a bug report to Apple about this issue. Today, during a very pleasant phone discussion with an extremely kind list member, who responded to my request for a Voice Dream Reader conversation, it occurred to me that, as a workaround, instead of tagging the .mp3 files as audiobooks, via iTunes, I could simply change the media type to Podcast, instead. Then, after syncing my iOS device as I would normally do, simply listen to the manually-created audiobooks, complete with chapter heading or individual episode title navigation intact, using the native Apple Podcast app. I am delighted to say that this workaround is working perfectly in iOS 8.4. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives
Re: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
As a note of interest, along with using voice dream reader to listen to old time radio shows, I use the following app: LibriVox Audio Books Pro, Theodore Book, Version 4.2. With this app, I can download old time radio shows directly to my ios device. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello All, As you may recall, I posted a message to the list discussing my dismay at the loss of manually-created audiobook chapter heading or individual episode title navigation as a result of Apple's decision to move native audiobook playback from the native iOS Music app to iBooks. By the way, as stated in my previous post, I did submit a bug report to Apple about this issue. Today, during a very pleasant phone discussion with an extremely kind list member, who responded to my request for a Voice Dream Reader conversation, it occurred to me that, as a workaround, instead of tagging the .mp3 files as audiobooks, via iTunes, I could simply change the media type to Podcast, instead. Then, after syncing my iOS device as I would normally do, simply listen to the manually-created audiobooks, complete with chapter heading or individual episode title navigation intact, using the native Apple Podcast app. I am delighted to say that this workaround is working perfectly in iOS 8.4. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched
Re: A Workaround FollowUp To: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hi Russ and all, how much is this app? By the way, this may be slightly off topic, but anyone who also has an android device, can download a free app, called Old Time Radio, wich lets you listen to thousands of shows and download them to your device! Have a good one: John John Jacques Amateur Radio Station: KD8PC Whare Cat Is, Is civilization! Robert A Heinlein http://www.johnjacques.weebly.com NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
I use voice dream reader for listening to old time radio shows. For example, I zip up a folder called the Shadow part 1. Then I use itunes to transfer it to voice dream reader. -Original Message- From: M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A Definite Step Backwards for AudioBook Listeners in iOS 8.4 iBooks
Hello Everyone, This post comes under the heading of look before you leap: I enjoy downloading old-time radio dramas such as the Mystery Theater and Beyond Midnight as .mp3 files, then tagging them as Audio Books in iTunes and then listening to them in the native iOS app. So, for example, I have three episodes from the Beyond Midnight radio series. The three titles are Let me See Your Face, Fortieth Birthday, and The Room. These are .mp3 files that, after being imported into iTunes, I change their media type to Audio Book. Now because I have them tagged as Beyond Midnight, under the Album field, in the Title field, I can list the actual episode names as listed above. In iOS 8.3 and earlier, after syncing to my iOS device, I would then simply select Audiobooks from within the native music app, and then I would see Beyond Midnight listed as a single book. After single-finger double-tapping on the title, I would then see each episode listed by name. No longer. To my complete dismay, I now discover that in iOS 8.4, the iBooks app does not list the individual episodes by names or chapter titles but simply list them as tracks. This means that when I now select Beyond Midnight, under contents, all I see are track 1, track 2, and track 3. Try as I may, I cannot figure out how to get each episode listed by its episode title or chapter heading. At first, I thought this was an oversight until I did a search on Google and discovered the following excerpt from Mac Rumors that described this issue back near the beginning of the beta cycle: [Begin Excerpt] Currently, in iOS 8.3, a users' audiobook library is divorced from their ebook library, forcing users to use two different apps to access their entire digital book library. The new update consolidates all books in Apple's iBooks app and also fixes another longstanding issue with audiobooks on iOS. Since iOS 7, audiobook listeners have been unable to view chapter titles or even select them. However, pazimi points out that while chapters are now selectable in iOS 8.4, they do not list the actual chapter titles, as they're listed as track numbers. [End Excerpt] The URL for the entire article can be found at: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/audiobooks-ios-8-4-beta/ This issue occurs in both iTunes 11.x and the very latest version of iTunes 12. Fortunately for me, I have not yet updated my beloved 6 Plus to iOS 8.4. Although I doubt it will make any difference to Apple, I will send a bug report via the bug reporting portal. If any of you have discovered a tagging method that will allow for the individual chapter titles to be respected in audiobooks, in the iBooks app, please post. If I had updated to the latest iOS without doing some testing, over 70 episodes of my radio dramas would have been reduced to mere track numbers on my phone. In The Journey, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
