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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Hello Everyone, To be honest, I have not been following this thread. However, a list member recently brought it to my attention. Clearly, the conversation has become unpleasant so I'll ask you to please discontinue this particular thread. Thank you all. I will post this message under a separate subject in order to make certain that it is seen by everyone. Please do not reply to this thread as it is to be terminated, immediately. Thank you, Moderator Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Send all the Emails you want to Apple Accessibility. Just don't take up list space griping about Apple. Everybody and their dog knows you don't like much about Apple. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, I did what you guys suggest every time when someone find a voice over bug. So now you are saying that we should not email apple accessibility? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard > On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, > hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due > to the apple close policies. > It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, > but it is what it costed to me. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You > wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a > business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, > Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before > and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping > the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they > make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't > want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and > I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send > you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their > apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. > It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a > subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > Hi Sieghard, > No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I > have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you > should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have > paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, > plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the > headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is > too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is > why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good > desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for > android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the > software policies of apple. > Look how many other things you would be able to do if you d
RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Send all the Emails you want to Apple Accessibility. Just don't take up list space griping about Apple. Everybody and their dog knows you don't like much about Apple. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, I did what you guys suggest every time when someone find a voice over bug. So now you are saying that we should not email apple accessibility? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard > On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, > hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due > to the apple close policies. > It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, > but it is what it costed to me. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You > wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a > business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, > Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before > and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping > the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they > make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't > want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and > I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send > you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their > apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. > It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a > subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > Hi Sieghard, > No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I > have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you > should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have > paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, > plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the > headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is > too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is > why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good > desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for > android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the > software policies of apple. > Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an > iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a > huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, > but we added some new. > Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > Christopher, > > I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to > pop up, I was just pulling P
RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Well, I did what you guys suggest every time when someone find a voice over bug. So now you are saying that we should not email apple accessibility? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard > On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, > hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due > to the apple close policies. > It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, > but it is what it costed to me. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You > wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a > business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, > Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before > and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping > the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they > make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't > want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and > I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send > you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their > apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. > It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a > subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > Hi Sieghard, > No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I > have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you > should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have > paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, > plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the > headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is > too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is > why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good > desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for > android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the > software policies of apple. > Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an > iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a > huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, > but we added some new. > Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. > > > > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > Christopher, > > I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to > pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much > fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the > rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a > Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop > it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. > Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying > around the
Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Pablo's not the only one who prefers Android's eco system over Apple's. He's just the only one bringing it up on this iPhone list. On 25/03/17 12:09, Richard Turner wrote: Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due to the apple close policies. It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, but it is what it costed to me. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Sieghard, No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the software policies of apple. Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, but we added some new. Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Christopher, I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android tablets. *smile* Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me think it's base
Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Well, I have to say though that, much as I like my iPad Mini 4, I do miss the ability to snap an SD card into it, and the ability to simply copy and paste files from my laptop onto it. I've used Windows and before that, DOS laptops, and being able to transfer files from one place to another is simple and straightforward on those. It does bug me that I need a specialized app such as iTunes or something else just to get some music on my iPad Mini 4. When I got it, the web research I did indicated that accessibility was better with iOS than with Android, and I know people with iDevices and there's a tremendous amount of support for VoiceOver online. I've found a lot of useful apps for it. I do like it quite a lot, but the next time I'm in the market for a tablet or a phone, and I get info that Android is equal or better accessibilitywise, I may very well jump over to it. Evan -Original Message- From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due to the apple close policies. It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, but it is what it costed to me. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Sieghard, No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the software policies of apple. Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, but we added some new. Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Christopher, I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the rescue. Good thing he
Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard > On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, > hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due > to the apple close policies. > It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, > but it is what it costed to me. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You > wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a > business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, > Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before > and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping > the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they > make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't > want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and > I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send > you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their > apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. > It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a > subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pablo Cesar Morales > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Hi Sieghard, > No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I > have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you > should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have > paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, > plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the > headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is > too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is > why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good > desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for > android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the > software policies of apple. > Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an > iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a > huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, > but we added some new. > Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Christopher, > > I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to > pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much > fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the > rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a > Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop > it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. > Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around > there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must > not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android > tablets. *smile* > > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM > To: viphone
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Pablo, Since you seem to be the only one having such headaches, sending tons of Email to Apple, etc., could it be your attitude that is the problem rather than Apple's closed OS? Richard > On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, > hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due > to the apple close policies. > It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, > but it is what it costed to me. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You > wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a > business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, > Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before > and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping > the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they > make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't > want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and > I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send > you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their > apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. > It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a > subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pablo Cesar Morales > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Hi Sieghard, > No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I > have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you > should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have > paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, > plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the > headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is > too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is > why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good > desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for > android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the > software policies of apple. > Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an > iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a > huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, > but we added some new. > Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Christopher, > > I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to > pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much > fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the > rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a > Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop > it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. > Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around > there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must > not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android > tablets. *smile* > > > Take care, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM > To: viphone
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Ok, pay what it costed for me. Headaches, tylenoles, arguments in the list, hundreds of emails to apple accessibility, and all difficulties created due to the apple close policies. It is just $7000. It is what it costed to me. I know that the value is $100, but it is what it costed to me. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Sieghard, No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the software policies of apple. Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, but we added some new. Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Christopher, I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android tablets. *smile* Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been just a year ago. On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: > Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of > apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that > IOs has, and many other funny things. > > It is why I bought a pixel device, becau
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I didn't say you paid $100, I told you I buy it from you for $100. You wouldn't need to buy Tylonol any more and when something doesn't work for a business then they just cut their losses and get rid of it. But seriously, Pablo, you knew exactly what you were getting into, you had iPhones before and you knew Apple's way and their policies as you call them about keeping the OS closed. Of course the OS now is as open as it has never been, they make many SDK's available to developers and more will follow. But I don't want to continue argueing with you, you have your opinion and I have mine and I really like my iPhone so it's all good. Just let me know when I should send you the $100, I'll even add a $20 gift card for the Google Play store, their apps are so cheap that it will be good for the rest of your life *smile*. It's good that Apple at least pays all the developers fairly, it's like a subsidy from Apple so they can afford to develop their apps for Google. Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Sieghard, No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the software policies of apple. Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, but we added some new. Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Christopher, I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android tablets. *smile* Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been just a year ago. On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: > Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of > apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that > IOs has, and many other funny things. > > It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and > much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are > usually so frustrated with their phones that they
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Hi Sieghard, No, I didn't paid for the iPhone $100. I paid a lot more, and it is wwhy I have been mad in the last 4 years. However if you are a business man, you should know that you will sale it for at least what you paid for it. I have paid around $7000. The accounting cost, plus the whole problems with IOs, plus the whole limitations, plus the tylenole that I have to buy due to the headings that this iPhone gave me. So, the economic cost of this iPhone is too high, and the benefits received are the same in the last 4 years. It is why a lot of people are moving from IOs to android. Economicly is not a good desition. Just see the cost of IOs apps, and the cost of the same apps for android. Just see how many headaches you and me have taken due to the software policies of apple. Look how many other things you would be able to do if you didn't buy an iPhone, that do the same things that the iPhones in the last years. Not a huge difference, just in the bugs, now we keep the same bugs than years ago, but we added some new. Maybe you should sale your iPhone too, for other $7000. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Christopher, I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android tablets. *smile* Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been just a year ago. On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: > Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of > apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that > IOs has, and many other funny things. > > It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and > much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are > usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of > humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPho > ne-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html > > > > > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We > need to have some fun. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googleg
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Christopher, I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, it's fun for a bit but enough is enough. Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android tablets. *smile* Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been just a year ago. On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: > Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of > apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that > IOs has, and many other funny things. > > It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and > much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are > usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of > humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPho > ne-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html > > > > > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We > need to have some fun. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. > > > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not > helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about > is helping each other to learn. > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Sieghard, > > Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say > it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? > > Because you said so? > > Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? > > No right? > > Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an > android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you > believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. > &g
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I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been just a year ago. On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that IOs has, and many other funny things. It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPhone-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have some fun. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other to learn. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m
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Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that IOs has, and many other funny things. It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPhone-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other to learn. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@goo
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Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPhone-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other to learn. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.
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hi, what happens if you tab around, till you find a tab control, and close the tab? it may be in the tree view. PS. remember, outLook is better, just because some say so LOL. Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 6:57 PM, Lynn White wrote: CCan someone please tell me how to get into the inbox of Thunderbird without having to read their release notes and all that? I just want to use it like you could before the latest update. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:24 AM, rajmund wrote: i, android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible. Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone. I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.* *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not iTunes.* *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.* *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my phone and it is it.* *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.* *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just doesn’t exist or is very low.* *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I like better android for many many reasons.* * * *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s cult
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LOL tempted to add this list into my pronunciation dictionary in the name of eyes-free. LOL. Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor *From:*Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would p
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Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other to learn. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouvei
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Great, I like it. Just tell me when. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Pablo, I like to bother you just as much and I guess we make each other laugh. So why is Android better? Because you say so, right? Yes, you have both devices and you think and this is the keyword here “you think” that Android is better. That of course means it is better in your opinion, right? As I said, I am sure Android by now is very advanced, I am sure the Google Pixel is a very nice phone and I’m sure many people prefer Android over iOS. But that doesn’t mean iOS is not good and that many people don’t prefer it over Android. I know a number of people who have switched from Android to iOS and think it’s way better and the same goes the other way around. Anyways, now you better shut up because you know nothing and I could take you any day and with both hands tied behind my back, how do you like that *grin* Oh, and if the Pixel with Android is so great, why has Apple sold more iPhone 7 in the first weekend than Google has sold Pixels since they were released? Best regards and wit great affection Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple I
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Hi victor, Have you ever seen to bulls out in a pastor. Every spring they butt heads together until their heads get bloody to prove who is the tuffus bull. Now do you understand? Of course I know neither one of them could break out of a wet paper bag. LOL Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don't understand how this devolved into an argument over which is better, iPhone, or Android. The fact is, each has benefits above and beyond the other, and there is no clear winner. Just like if you come across a blind Android user, they'll say that the Android is more accessible, and the iPhone user will state the opposite. I simply pointed out that Mary could not make such a blanket statement with providing a factual basis for her statement. I outlined what was wrong with her statement, and I've moved on from there. I've no idea how we've gotten into this devolved argument again. I've noticed that this argument comes across every few months and I don't understand why. Every one has read the benefits of each OS, and it's all subjective, in the end. Victor -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg This is just my opinion, but I've used both Apple and Android, and I find Android to be the better platform. I appreciate it's openness and customizability. I like the widget support it's had for years. I like the variety in form factors. Android does have trouble with fragmentation though, but I'm willing to put up with this for the benefits I perceive. Apple is a great product and a great ecosystem. I used it for years before I thought Android accessibility had caught up enough to make the jump possible. I still use an iPhone for work. I think either platform is great depending on what you're looking for and how you use your phone. I think choice is good, and I don't think people need to get defensive when talking about the brand they chose to use or put down the other options. I for one hope both platforms get better and more accessible. On 22/03/17 20:56, John Panarese wrote: > Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits > over any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information > can be found all over the place. > >As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a > much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used > Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google > device with a straight forward version of Android. > > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales >> mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot >> of money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So >> we should use the same rule that you used with Samsung. >> >> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition >> Red iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much >> of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after >> year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. >> You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the >> technical press that is all over articles every time some company >> gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on >> them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, >> because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being >> made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung >> makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also >> make a ton of m
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I don't understand how this devolved into an argument over which is better, iPhone, or Android. The fact is, each has benefits above and beyond the other, and there is no clear winner. Just like if you come across a blind Android user, they'll say that the Android is more accessible, and the iPhone user will state the opposite. I simply pointed out that Mary could not make such a blanket statement with providing a factual basis for her statement. I outlined what was wrong with her statement, and I've moved on from there. I've no idea how we've gotten into this devolved argument again. I've noticed that this argument comes across every few months and I don't understand why. Every one has read the benefits of each OS, and it's all subjective, in the end. Victor -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg This is just my opinion, but I've used both Apple and Android, and I find Android to be the better platform. I appreciate it's openness and customizability. I like the widget support it's had for years. I like the variety in form factors. Android does have trouble with fragmentation though, but I'm willing to put up with this for the benefits I perceive. Apple is a great product and a great ecosystem. I used it for years before I thought Android accessibility had caught up enough to make the jump possible. I still use an iPhone for work. I think either platform is great depending on what you're looking for and how you use your phone. I think choice is good, and I don't think people need to get defensive when talking about the brand they chose to use or put down the other options. I for one hope both platforms get better and more accessible. On 22/03/17 20:56, John Panarese wrote: Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits over any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information can be found all over the place. As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google device with a straight forward version of Android. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot of money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So we should use the same rule that you used with Samsung. *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more approp
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CCan someone please tell me how to get into the inbox of Thunderbird without having to read their release notes and all that? I just want to use it like you could before the latest update. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:24 AM, rajmund wrote: > > i, > android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much > you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's > android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of > being able to use it or whether it's accessible. > > Sent from Thunderbird > >> On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: >> *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers >> are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on >> android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone. >> I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot >> of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that >> I was missing when I was an iPhone user.* >> >> *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using >> internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what >> ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed >> automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not >> with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install >> apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not >> iTunes.* >> >> *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with >> copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my >> computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.* >> >> *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need >> to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my >> phone and it is it.* >> >> *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using >> jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.* >> >> *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just >> doesn’t exist or is very low.* >> >> *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In >> United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is >> because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you >> are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones >> used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android >> wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I >> like better android for many many reasons.* >> >> * * >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Alan Lemly >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red >> iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> >> Pablo, >> >> >> >> I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like >> Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any >> company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And >> you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of >> companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like >> Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for >> them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an >> Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply >> and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. >> >> >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red >> iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> >> Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android >> device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with >> sd cards. >> >> Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with >> everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone >> memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very
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Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other to learn. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that six
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Hi Pablo, I like to bother you just as much and I guess we make each other laugh. So why is Android better? Because you say so, right? Yes, you have both devices and you think and this is the keyword here “you think” that Android is better. That of course means it is better in your opinion, right? As I said, I am sure Android by now is very advanced, I am sure the Google Pixel is a very nice phone and I’m sure many people prefer Android over iOS. But that doesn’t mean iOS is not good and that many people don’t prefer it over Android. I know a number of people who have switched from Android to iOS and think it’s way better and the same goes the other way around. Anyways, now you better shut up because you know nothing and I could take you any day and with both hands tied behind my back, how do you like that *grin* Oh, and if the Pixel with Android is so great, why has Apple sold more iPhone 7 in the first weekend than Google has sold Pixels since they were released? Best regards and wit great affection Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieg
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Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other to learn. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to av
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Sieghard, Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not? Because you said so? Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ? No right? Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise. But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that means. Leave the list? No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you. Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my experience and expectations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com> > wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in
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If you have an old iPad, such as an iPad two or three or even an iPad air the original air, and you don't want to lay out the big bucks for an iPad Pro which is still rumored to be coming later this year, that's the advantage of buying this one. It's cheaper. If it satisfies you and you don't have or want to pay the big bucks, you can still get an Apple tablet for a "cheap price". Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Cris Ali wrote: > > I have no interest in the apple versus android comparison. What I find > interesting though is that the new iPad is even weaker than the iPad pro 9.7 > inch which was released last spring. The iPad pro 9.7 of last year has 5 MB > front facing Camera and 12 MB back Camera. The new one has 1.2 MB front > facing, and 8 MB back Camera. They both has the same A9 processor and they > have similar storage options. It also seems that the new model is slightly > heavier. So the question is then: What is the advantage of buying the new > iPad other than the fact it is slightly cheaper? > Did any of you find any other advantages for buying the new iPad? > > Regards, > > Cris > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Marissa Solaun > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:37 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone > > Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone > More stories by Alex Webb > Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at > the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to > combat AIDS. > > Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at > $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, > part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes > to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. > > “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a > significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our > products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the > way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and > Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement > Tuesday. > > Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing > more than $130 million, the company said. > > Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this > year. > Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which > reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. > Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March > in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the > 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music > and the App Store, and the other products category. > > Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. > Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. > > > The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus > cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and > more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be > available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple > also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display > model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current > capacity and replacing the previous models. > > Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips, that helps > people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through > social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, > which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional > languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. > > Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list mo
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I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: vipho
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Mary is correct, there are of course way more Android devices out there, but if you look at the smartphone industry in terms of profits Apple totally dominates because they make expensive devices with high profit margins. Saying there are other drinks out there other than Coke is true, but that would be like comparing the smartphone market to the market which includes TV’s, appliances, computer screens and so on. Yes, Samsung and LG are huge corporations which make everything from washers to laptops and smartphones, bluetooth headsets to screens, but Apple is not the richest and most valueable company in the world for nothing. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am n
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Hi Alan, Well said, Apple has a totally different business model as it relies on its hardware and services to make money. Google makes its money from advertising, but of course now that Alphabet Inc. which owns Google and a multitude of other companies has been set up, it is even more complicated. The fact is that Android is a platform which manufacturers can use and customize and impose their own UI elements on, there are hundreds and hundreds of manufacturers who make Android devices and there is one company which makes Apple devices with iOS. I always hear how users are running from Apple to Android because of all that fantastic flexibility and freedom Android offers, yet while apple experienced less growth about a year ago, the iPhone 7/7 Plus again were hugely successful and just as people leave iOS to try Android, the opposite is also true. I really think we should stop making every argument for or against one or the other a competition as to what is better. The fct is that both platforms are good, both are very mature by now, you can get beautiful devices from Apple and you can get beautiful Android phones. Everybody decides what they want and you are totally correct that Apple should make as much money as they can which of course is what they do. They are a publically traded company and they have an obligation towards their shareholders to make money. Pablo left the iPhone behind a couple or 3 years ago because he thought Android was so much better. When he came back to the list having just bought an iPhone 7 I think he said himself how Android had all this flexibility but that it also had its issues. I personally can’t justify owning two high-end smartphones and maintaining two cell phone plans and while Apple sometimes totally screws up, I do for the most part like their devices and ecosystem and so far have not felt the need to try Android. At the same time I am perfectly happy with my Windows computers and what Microsoft has been doing with Windows 10, I like Jaws and know it inside out and therefore don’t feel any urge to try Apple computers. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introdu
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I have no interest in the apple versus android comparison. What I find interesting though is that the new iPad is even weaker than the iPad pro 9.7 inch which was released last spring. The iPad pro 9.7 of last year has 5 MB front facing Camera and 12 MB back Camera. The new one has 1.2 MB front facing, and 8 MB back Camera. They both has the same A9 processor and they have similar storage options. It also seems that the new model is slightly heavier. So the question is then: What is the advantage of buying the new iPad other than the fact it is slightly cheaper? Did any of you find any other advantages for buying the new iPad? Regards, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb<https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> Apple Inc.<https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said. Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year. Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category. Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. [https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ip8vUiYTHg.8/v2/800x-1.png] The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models. Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>, that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality [https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i5YSNG8k7G8o/v5/640x-1.jpg] Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:v
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Gerardo, I disagree. I have found better accessibility on android apps, and in all areas of android than what I have found in IOs apps and IOs. I also use both platforms. I have several examples of apps on android that provide better accessibility than what I have found in IOs. IOs is more limited, and it makes more simple the use of phone and apps, but simplicity doesn't mean better. Ability to get information, is what I call accessibility. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Apple is the vest in accessibility still. Android still has some ways to go. I'm speaking from the persective of having both platforms of course. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S > El 23/03/2017, a las 7:12 a.m., Dave escribió: > > who cares! for god sake, use which ever phone you want, and get on with it! > > Now please give it a rest!! > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- From: rajmund > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:26 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple, > anyway? > > Sent from Thunderbird > >> On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: >> Most don’t make profit? >> >> How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? >> >> It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are >> moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I >> should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a >> nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Mary Otten >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition >> Red iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> >> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making >> most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make >> android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in >> business forever if they don't make a profit. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia >> mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: >> >>Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS >>reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away >>from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in >>the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I >>don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five >>that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. >>When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they >>realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take >>pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the >>32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the >>smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more >>waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem >>with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged >>to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is >>guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their >>content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and >>you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t >>have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes >> when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to >> a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the >>Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a >>thought. >> >> >> >>Victor >> >> >> >>*From:*Sieghard Weitzel >> >>*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM >> >>*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >>*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition >>Red iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> >>
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Apple is the vest in accessibility still. Android still has some ways to go. I'm speaking from the persective of having both platforms of course. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S > El 23/03/2017, a las 7:12 a.m., Dave escribió: > > who cares! for god sake, use which ever phone you want, and get on with it! > > Now please give it a rest!! > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- From: rajmund > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:26 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple, > anyway? > > Sent from Thunderbird > >> On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: >> Most don’t make profit? >> >> How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? >> >> It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are >> moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should >> recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, >> or a pixel phone. They are great. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Mary Otten >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red >> iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> >> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making >> most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make >> android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in >> business forever if they don't make a profit. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia > <mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: >> >>Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS >>reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away >>from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in >>the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I >>don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five >>that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. >>When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they >>realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take >>pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the >>32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the >>smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more >>waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem >>with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged >>to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is >>guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their >>content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and >>you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t >>have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes >>when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to >>a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the >>Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a >>thought. >> >> >> >>Victor >> >> >> >>*From:*Sieghard Weitzel >> >>*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM >> >>*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >>*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition >>Red iPhone - Bloomberg >> >> >> >>Hi Victor, >> >> >> >>I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and >>offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce >>media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or >>maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give >>users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly >>defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD >>card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of >>latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes >>against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some >>
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apples and bananas for tea. -Original Message- From: Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Yes, you are right. Like Christopher said before. Everything depends of likes. Some people like apple, some people like android. I used iPhone for several years, and for several years I have been complaining about apple software policies. Now with android I don't have those problems, so of course I am happy using android more than IOs. However people who are comfortable using apple software policies , they don't see any advantage using android. But those are likes. I like apple because it was the first smart device that I used. However some situations that aggravated me that probably doesn't aggravate you or other users, moved me to android. But you, me and everyone are different. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rajmund Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg i, android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible. Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone. I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.* *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not iTunes.* *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.* *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my phone and it is it.* *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.* *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just doesn’t exist or is very low.* *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I like better android for many many reasons.* * * *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they
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who cares! for god sake, use which ever phone you want, and get on with it! Now please give it a rest!! Dave. -Original Message- From: rajmund Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple, anyway? Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor *From:*Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest i
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Yes, you are right. Like Christopher said before. Everything depends of likes. Some people like apple, some people like android. I used iPhone for several years, and for several years I have been complaining about apple software policies. Now with android I don't have those problems, so of course I am happy using android more than IOs. However people who are comfortable using apple software policies , they don't see any advantage using android. But those are likes. I like apple because it was the first smart device that I used. However some situations that aggravated me that probably doesn't aggravate you or other users, moved me to android. But you, me and everyone are different. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rajmund Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg i, android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible. Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: > *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The > Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much > better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel > phone. > I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot > of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something > that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.* > > *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using > internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for > what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is > installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel > phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able > to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular > browser. Not > iTunes.* > > *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with > copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my > computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.* > > *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t > need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties > apps in my phone and it is it.* > > *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using > jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.* > > *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just > doesn’t exist or is very low.* > > *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In > United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is > because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because > you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when > iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true > that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and > android user. I like better android for many many reasons.* > > * * > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alan Lemly > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Pablo, > > > > I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like > Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that > any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. > And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the > multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If > you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working > pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you > should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. > That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. > > > > Alan Lemly > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Pixel doesn’t have a sd car
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and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple, anyway? Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor *From:*Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that
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i, android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible. Sent from Thunderbird On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone. I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.* *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not iTunes.* *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.* *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my phone and it is it.* *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.* *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just doesn’t exist or is very low.* *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I like better android for many many reasons.* * * *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPh
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How about a comparison between Apple and Android in the field of functionality. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don't know if Apple is the most profitable company in the world. Maybe they are. And market sure in the long run is not totally irrelevant. But divorced from profit, marketshare is a relevant. And so much of the android fan base out there seems to think that marketshare trumps all and the profitability is a relevant. They're always these fans of my articles out there trumpeting the end of Apple. And it hasn't happened yet. As long as Apple can keep Bies happy and keep growing the base to the extent that it needs to order to keep its profits up there and it's stock price up there, it will do great. And it really doesn't matter in terms of marketshare worldwide, how much that is. That's all I'm saying. Obviously, if you're trying to sell a product and nobody wants to buy it, you're done. But the issue here between android and Apple has always been market share. The android fan voice say, look how small apples worldwide market share is. But it doesn't matter, as long as the people who like apple keep buying it and making apple big bunches of money, and as long as there are new people coming into the system who think Apple's products are worth the high prices they charge. That means Apple App Store profits are up, developers are happy, and life goes on. In that sense, marketshare is not relevant. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I can't understand how you say market share has nothing to do with Apple's profits. If they had no market share they wouldn't be selling any phones. I'm not sure why we're arguing about Apple's profitability though. They are a very profitable company. I don't think this means they can ignore market share though or stop listening to their customers. I will say though that they must be doing a lot of things right, and they aren't going to stray from their core principles that made them the wealthiest company in the world. On 22/03/17 21:22, Mary Otten wrote: For all those of you who apparently don't bother to read the technical press, the great majority of apples profit comes from the iPhone. It's that simple. And for those of you who say I should try android, I have. In fact, I own to android devices, a Nexus six and an axon seven mini. Before that, I had a Nexus seven. I would love to find a device that is cheaper than an iPhone that does as well for me as an iPhone, because I am like everybody else in that I like to save money there are things about the Apple system that I do not appreciate, one of them being the fact that is rather a pain to transfer files to and from an iPhone. On the other hand, as someone who has a Mac, I offer you the observation that transferring files between android devices and Mac is not a piece of cake. So, grass is not always greener on that side of the fence either. Also, the top-of-the-line android phones, such as those from Samsung on the top in and the Google pixel are very comparable if not more expensive than iPhones. As such, I would want those devices to be kept up-to-date quickly for several years, as is the case with an iPhone. My Nexus six which is I believe, the same vintage as an iPhone 6, has yet to receive an update to the latest operating system. And it's not going to get anymore. The iPhone 6 on the other hand, God it's update right along with all other Apple iPhones. That is a huge drawback to Android, and Google knows it. They're taking steps to fix it, but I remain skeptical as to how successful they might be. I'm not saying android is bad. And I think it's great that there are phones in many price ranges. But what I am saying is that it is a simple matter of provable fact as acknowledge in the technical and financial press that Apple makes the vast majority of profit in the smart phone industry. You can love it or leave it but you can't change it. And marketshare has absolutely nothing to do with it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c
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What is surprising to me is how Microsoft is falling by the way side in this field. - Original Message - From: John Panarese To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits over any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information can be found all over the place. As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google device with a straight forward version of Android. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote: Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot of money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So we should use the same rule that you used with Samsung. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people a
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I don't know if Apple is the most profitable company in the world. Maybe they are. And market sure in the long run is not totally irrelevant. But divorced from profit, marketshare is a relevant. And so much of the android fan base out there seems to think that marketshare trumps all and the profitability is a relevant. They're always these fans of my articles out there trumpeting the end of Apple. And it hasn't happened yet. As long as Apple can keep Bies happy and keep growing the base to the extent that it needs to order to keep its profits up there and it's stock price up there, it will do great. And it really doesn't matter in terms of marketshare worldwide, how much that is. That's all I'm saying. Obviously, if you're trying to sell a product and nobody wants to buy it, you're done. But the issue here between android and Apple has always been market share. The android fan voice say, look how small apples worldwide market share is. But it doesn't matter, as long as the people who like apple keep buying it and making apple big bunches of money, and as long as there are new people coming into the system who think Apple's products are worth the high prices they charge. That means Apple App Store profits are up, developers are happy, and life goes on. In that sense, marketshare is not relevant. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I can't understand how you say market share has nothing to do with Apple's > profits. If they had no market share they wouldn't be selling any phones. > > I'm not sure why we're arguing about Apple's profitability though. They are a > very profitable company. I don't think this means they can ignore market > share though or stop listening to their customers. I will say though that > they must be doing a lot of things right, and they aren't going to stray from > their core principles that made them the wealthiest company in the world. > >> On 22/03/17 21:22, Mary Otten wrote: >> For all those of you who apparently don't bother to read the technical >> press, the great majority of apples profit comes from the iPhone. It's >> that simple. And for those of you who say I should try android, I have. >> In fact, I own to android devices, a Nexus six and an axon seven mini. >> Before that, I had a Nexus seven. I would love to find a device that is >> cheaper than an iPhone that does as well for me as an iPhone, because I >> am like everybody else in that I like to save money there are things >> about the Apple system that I do not appreciate, one of them being the >> fact that is rather a pain to transfer files to and from an iPhone. On >> the other hand, as someone who has a Mac, I offer you the observation >> that transferring files between android devices and Mac is not a piece >> of cake. So, grass is not always greener on that side of the fence either. >> Also, the top-of-the-line android phones, such as those from Samsung on >> the top in and the Google pixel are very comparable if not more >> expensive than iPhones. As such, I would want those devices to be kept >> up-to-date quickly for several years, as is the case with an iPhone. My >> Nexus six which is I believe, the same vintage as an iPhone 6, has yet >> to receive an update to the latest operating system. And it's not going >> to get anymore. The iPhone 6 on the other hand, God it's update right >> along with all other Apple iPhones. That is a huge drawback to Android, >> and Google knows it. They're taking steps to fix it, but I remain >> skeptical as to how successful they might be. I'm not saying android is >> bad. And I think it's great that there are phones in many price ranges. >> But what I am saying is that it is a simple matter of provable fact as >> acknowledge in the technical and financial press that Apple makes the >> vast majority of profit in the smart phone industry. You can love it or >> leave it but you can't change it. And marketshare has absolutely nothing >> to do with it. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales > <mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg >>> >>> Most don’t make profit? >>> >>> How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? >>> >>> It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are >>> moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should >>> recommend that do
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#x27;m not saying android is bad. And I think it's great that there are phones in many price ranges. But what I am saying is that it is a simple matter of provable fact as acknowledge in the technical and financial press that Apple makes the vast majority of profit in the smart phone industry. You can love it or leave it but you can't change it. And marketshare has absolutely nothing to do with it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor *From:* Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM *
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I can't understand how you say market share has nothing to do with Apple's profits. If they had no market share they wouldn't be selling any phones. I'm not sure why we're arguing about Apple's profitability though. They are a very profitable company. I don't think this means they can ignore market share though or stop listening to their customers. I will say though that they must be doing a lot of things right, and they aren't going to stray from their core principles that made them the wealthiest company in the world. On 22/03/17 21:22, Mary Otten wrote: For all those of you who apparently don't bother to read the technical press, the great majority of apples profit comes from the iPhone. It's that simple. And for those of you who say I should try android, I have. In fact, I own to android devices, a Nexus six and an axon seven mini. Before that, I had a Nexus seven. I would love to find a device that is cheaper than an iPhone that does as well for me as an iPhone, because I am like everybody else in that I like to save money there are things about the Apple system that I do not appreciate, one of them being the fact that is rather a pain to transfer files to and from an iPhone. On the other hand, as someone who has a Mac, I offer you the observation that transferring files between android devices and Mac is not a piece of cake. So, grass is not always greener on that side of the fence either. Also, the top-of-the-line android phones, such as those from Samsung on the top in and the Google pixel are very comparable if not more expensive than iPhones. As such, I would want those devices to be kept up-to-date quickly for several years, as is the case with an iPhone. My Nexus six which is I believe, the same vintage as an iPhone 6, has yet to receive an update to the latest operating system. And it's not going to get anymore. The iPhone 6 on the other hand, God it's update right along with all other Apple iPhones. That is a huge drawback to Android, and Google knows it. They're taking steps to fix it, but I remain skeptical as to how successful they might be. I'm not saying android is bad. And I think it's great that there are phones in many price ranges. But what I am saying is that it is a simple matter of provable fact as acknowledge in the technical and financial press that Apple makes the vast majority of profit in the smart phone industry. You can love it or leave it but you can't change it. And marketshare has absolutely nothing to do with it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an e
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This is just my opinion, but I've used both Apple and Android, and I find Android to be the better platform. I appreciate it's openness and customizability. I like the widget support it's had for years. I like the variety in form factors. Android does have trouble with fragmentation though, but I'm willing to put up with this for the benefits I perceive. Apple is a great product and a great ecosystem. I used it for years before I thought Android accessibility had caught up enough to make the jump possible. I still use an iPhone for work. I think either platform is great depending on what you're looking for and how you use your phone. I think choice is good, and I don't think people need to get defensive when talking about the brand they chose to use or put down the other options. I for one hope both platforms get better and more accessible. On 22/03/17 20:56, John Panarese wrote: Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits over any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information can be found all over the place. As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google device with a straight forward version of Android. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot of money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So we should use the same rule that you used with Samsung. *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor *From:* Mary Otten *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pi
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g to >> android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that >> don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. >> They are great. >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On >> Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most >> of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android >> devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business >> forever if they don't make a profit. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia > <mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and >> phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for >> just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and >> rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones >> available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those >> devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the >> iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people >> wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still >> offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just >> the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more >> waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD >> card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort >> of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so >> people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up >> the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple >> couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their >> eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a >> portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android >> devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. >> >> Victor >> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Hi Victor, >> >> I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD >> card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card >> then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more >> accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the >> SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of >> the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce >> a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes >> against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some >> high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, >> just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card >> slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because >> there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely >> not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course >> making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much >> more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no >> problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays >> 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb >> devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> <> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On >> Behalf Of Victor Gouveia >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:v
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For all those of you who apparently don't bother to read the technical press, the great majority of apples profit comes from the iPhone. It's that simple. And for those of you who say I should try android, I have. In fact, I own to android devices, a Nexus six and an axon seven mini. Before that, I had a Nexus seven. I would love to find a device that is cheaper than an iPhone that does as well for me as an iPhone, because I am like everybody else in that I like to save money there are things about the Apple system that I do not appreciate, one of them being the fact that is rather a pain to transfer files to and from an iPhone. On the other hand, as someone who has a Mac, I offer you the observation that transferring files between android devices and Mac is not a piece of cake. So, grass is not always greener on that side of the fence either. Also, the top-of-the-line android phones, such as those from Samsung on the top in and the Google pixel are very comparable if not more expensive than iPhones. As such, I would want those devices to be kept up-to-date quickly for several years, as is the case with an iPhone. My Nexus six which is I believe, the same vintage as an iPhone 6, has yet to receive an update to the latest operating system. And it's not going to get anymore. The iPhone 6 on the other hand, God it's update right along with all other Apple iPhones. That is a huge drawback to Android, and Google knows it. They're taking steps to fix it, but I remain skeptical as to how successful they might be. I'm not saying android is bad. And I think it's great that there are phones in many price ranges. But what I am saying is that it is a simple matter of provable fact as acknowledge in the technical and financial press that Apple makes the vast majority of profit in the smart phone industry. You can love it or leave it but you can't change it. And marketshare has absolutely nothing to do with it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Most don’t make profit? > How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? > It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to > android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that > don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. > They are great. > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of > the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. > Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they > don't make a profit. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia > wrote: > > Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and > phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for > just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and > rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones > available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those > devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the > iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted > to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 > gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller > issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and > dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in > addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact > is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced > to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and > you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. > Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to > expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest > they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for > expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. > > Victor > > From: Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Hi Victor, > > I am not sure if Apple could keep their w
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Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits over any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information can be found all over the place. As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google device with a straight forward version of Android. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales > wrote: > > Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot of money > with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So we should use the > same rule that you used with Samsung. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the > phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple > makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like > it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all > over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. > Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes > exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being > made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. > Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also > make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all > those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. > It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia <mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: > >> Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. >> >> One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry >> because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight >> companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple >> was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is >> making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other >> drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. >> >> Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to >> Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement >> would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple >> does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. >> >> Victor >> >> From: Mary Otten >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most >> of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android >> devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business >> forever if they don't make a profit. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia > <mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and >>> phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for >>> just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and >>> rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones >>> available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those >>> devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the >>> iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people >>> wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still >&
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Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot of money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So we should use the same rule that you used with Samsung. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com> > wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com> > wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
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Most don’t make profit? How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit? It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com> > wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@go
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No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone. I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that I was missing when I was an iPhone user. I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not iTunes. If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that. If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my phone and it is it. I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand. I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just doesn’t exist or is very low. Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I like better android for many many reasons. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way. From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that A
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Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergAnthony, I did nothing of the sort. I simply asked her to qualify her statement with some sort of reference. As you may or may not have seen, her subsequent message clarified she was referring to one company versus another, not the industry as a whole. We are simply waiting for her to tell me whether I misunderstood her message or not. Victor From: Anthony Vece Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg You made it look like she didn't know what she was talking about. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!! On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Anthony, I’m sorry, what did I do wrong except contradict someone’s opinion and clear up some confusion that may have been made that misunderstood my words. Should I have let it go, and let her keep stating a fact that is not a fact? I’m not sure what I did wrong here. Victor From: Anthony Vece Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hey Victor; I'm Mary is speaking from knowledge that is credible. Leave her alone. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!! On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in
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Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergThis is not the statement you made at the offset. In the below, you’re comparing Apple products to Samsung products, and in this statement, I agree with you, but in your first statement, you were comparing Apple products to the number of devices currently on the market, unless I misunderstood your initial post. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Like I said, I agree wholeheartedly with your below statement, but this is not the statement you made to the list before. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Sorry, Victor. I am not confused. I know the difference between profit and market share. One, profit, is relevant if you're a business. Two, marketshare, is not relevant at all if you're not making any money. You will go out of business if you do not make money. Eventually, whoever is subsidizing all of your losses will get tired of it, and you will go away. It's that simple. If you get complacent, then you won't be selling as many hi profit margin products, and then you have a problem. But since I just saw an article that talked about how the-year-old iPhone 6s sold more than Samsung's top two phones of last year, the S7 and S7 edge, I don't think Apple has anything to worry about in the complacency department. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Mary, I think you’re getting confused with profits and market share, or sales. What I mean to say is that in terms of pricing and how much money Apple makes cannot be denied, but they are a low percentage of the share of the cell phone market, and this has nothing to do with whether I like the news or not, if you came to me and proved to me that your blanket statement was correct, I would humbly apologize, and stand corrected, however, the fact is, in market share, there are too many cell phones out there for Apple to even corner the market or even the entire cell phone market. I’m sorry if I confused you. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the adde
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Sorry, Victor. I am not confused. I know the difference between profit and market share. One, profit, is relevant if you're a business. Two, marketshare, is not relevant at all if you're not making any money. You will go out of business if you do not make money. Eventually, whoever is subsidizing all of your losses will get tired of it, and you will go away. It's that simple. If you get complacent, then you won't be selling as many hi profit margin products, and then you have a problem. But since I just saw an article that talked about how the-year-old iPhone 6s sold more than Samsung's top two phones of last year, the S7 and S7 edge, I don't think Apple has anything to worry about in the complacency department. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: > > Mary, I think you’re getting confused with profits and market share, or sales. > > What I mean to say is that in terms of pricing and how much money Apple makes > cannot be denied, but they are a low percentage of the share of the cell > phone market, and this has nothing to do with whether I like the news or not, > if you came to me and proved to me that your blanket statement was correct, I > would humbly apologize, and stand corrected, however, the fact is, in market > share, there are too many cell phones out there for Apple to even corner the > market or even the entire cell phone market. I’m sorry if I confused you. > > Victor > > From: Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the > phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple > makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like > it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all > over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. > Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes > exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being > made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. > Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also > make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all > those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. > It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia >> wrote: >> >> Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. >> >> One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry >> because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight >> companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple >> was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is >> making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other >> drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. >> >> Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to >> Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement >> would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple >> does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. >> >> Victor >> >> From: Mary Otten >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most >> of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android >> devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business >> forever if they don't make a profit. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and >>> phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for >>> just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and >>> rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones >>> available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those >>> devices are p
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You made it look like she didn't know what she was talking about. Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!! > On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: > > Anthony, I’m sorry, what did I do wrong except contradict someone’s opinion > and clear up some confusion that may have been made that misunderstood my > words. Should I have let it go, and let her keep stating a fact that is not > a fact? > > I’m not sure what I did wrong here. > > Victor > > From: Anthony Vece > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Hey Victor; > > I'm Mary is speaking from knowledge that is credible. > Leave her alone. > Anthony > > > Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!! > >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Victor Gouveia >> wrote: >> >> Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. >> >> One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry >> because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight >> companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple >> was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is >> making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other >> drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. >> >> Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to >> Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement >> would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple >> does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. >> >> Victor >> >> From: Mary Otten >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most >> of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android >> devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business >> forever if they don't make a profit. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and >>> phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for >>> just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and >>> rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones >>> available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those >>> devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the >>> iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people >>> wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still >>> offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is >>> just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and >>> more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with >>> an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid >>> that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed >>> platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App >>> store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to >>> jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple >>> should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it >>> easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the >>> cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. >>> Just a thought. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> From: Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >>> - Bloomberg >>> >>> Hi Victor, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD >>> card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card >>> then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more >>> accurate to say that Apple
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Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergAnthony, I’m sorry, what did I do wrong except contradict someone’s opinion and clear up some confusion that may have been made that misunderstood my words. Should I have let it go, and let her keep stating a fact that is not a fact? I’m not sure what I did wrong here. Victor From: Anthony Vece Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hey Victor; I'm Mary is speaking from knowledge that is credible. Leave her alone. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!! On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder
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Hey Victor; I'm Mary is speaking from knowledge that is credible. Leave her alone. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!! > On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: > > Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. > > One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry > because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight > companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple > was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is > making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other > drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. > > Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to > Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement > would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple > does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. > > Victor > > From: Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of > the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. > Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they > don't make a profit. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia >> wrote: >> >> Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and >> phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for >> just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and >> rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones >> available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those >> devicesare pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the >> iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people >> wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still >> offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just >> the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more >> waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD >> card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort >> of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so >> people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up >> the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple >> couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes >> when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a >> portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android >> devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. >> >> Victor >> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Hi Victor, >> >> >> >> I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD >> card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card >> then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more >> accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the >> SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of >> the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce >> a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes >> against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some >> high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, >> just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card >> slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because >> there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely >> not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course >> making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much >> more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no >> problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays >> 1
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Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergMary, I think you’re getting confused with profits and market share, or sales. What I mean to say is that in terms of pricing and how much money Apple makes cannot be denied, but they are a low percentage of the share of the cell phone market, and this has nothing to do with whether I like the news or not, if you came to me and proved to me that your blanket statement was correct, I would humbly apologize, and stand corrected, however, the fact is, in market share, there are too many cell phones out there for Apple to even corner the market or even the entire cell phone market. I’m sorry if I confused you. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slot
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Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia wrote: > > Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. > > One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry > because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight > companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple > was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is > making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other > drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. > > Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to > Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement > would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple > does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. > > Victor > > From: Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of > the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. > Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they > don't make a profit. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia >> wrote: >> >> Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and >> phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for >> just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and >> rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones >> available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those >> devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the >> iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people >> wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still >> offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just >> the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more >> waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD >> card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort >> of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so >> people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up >> the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple >> couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes >> when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a >> portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android >> devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. >> >> Victor >> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone >> - Bloomberg >> >> Hi Victor, >> >> >> >> I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD >> card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card >> then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more >> accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the >> SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of >> the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce >> a lot of latency in how fast things get load
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Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergMary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first. One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple. To say that Apple was making most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea. Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts. Victor From: Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced th
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Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they don't make a profit. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia > wrote: > > Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and > phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for > just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and > rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones > available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those > devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the > iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted > to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 > gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller > issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and > dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in > addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact > is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced > to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and > you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. > Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to > expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest > they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for > expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. > > Victor > > From: Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Hi Victor, > > I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD > card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card > then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more > accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the > SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of > the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce > a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes > against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end > Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just > something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? > Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there > is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not > very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a > highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more > difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with > Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t > get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can > get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Victor Gouveia > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the > memory it’s offering. > > I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an > expansion slot for an SD card. > > Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, > since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, > and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem > that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. > > Victor > > From: Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > Hi Mary, > I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. > Mr. Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM > To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re:
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Pablo, I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iP
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Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergHi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just that reason. With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it. When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue. How many phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing. Fact is, I think that Apple is guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from iTunes and App store. Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that. Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in. Just a thought. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE
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I mean Bluetooth external memory card, if it can be used to expend IDevices internal memory? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg What is bluetooth removeable media? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Don’t we have or likely to have in future Bluetooth removable media? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone <https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> More stories by Alex Webb <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the ch
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Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards. Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the i
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What is bluetooth removeable media? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Don’t we have or likely to have in future Bluetooth removable media? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb<https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> Apple Inc.<https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, w
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Don’t we have or likely to have in future Bluetooth removable media? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone <https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> More stories by Alex Webb <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessorie
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I think they isolate the SD card slot from the rest of the phone, that is how Garmin does this also. Garmin outdoor GPS units have the IPX67 rating also (up to 30 minutes in 1 metre of water) but they say the battery compartment which is also where the SD card slot is, needs to be dried out should the unit get submerged. Anyhow, it is what it is, I highly doubt Apple will ever make an iPhone with an SD card slot especially considering how much larger and less expensiv solid state storage is getting. In 3 or 5 years we probably have iPhones with 750 Gb or 1 Tb of storage at the same price as now the 256 Gig. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg The Pixel doesn't have an SD card slot but the S7 series of Samsung Galaxy line does. Google also hasn't had a SD card slot in their phones since the first Nexus phone. Android 6 also added a feature where you could format an SD card and have it treated as an extension to the internal storage on board your phone. I don't think it's an issue of high end Android phones getting away from the SD card slot as much as it is just different philosophies amongst the high end smart phone manufacturers. I don't know how the dimensions compare, but the S7 and the S7 Edge are pretty thin iPhone like phones, and they do have an SD card slot. Furthermore, they're both IP68 rated for water resistance, so adding an extra slot doesn't seem to prohibit water resistance. On 21/03/17 22:47, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Victor, > > > > I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and > offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media > on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it > would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users > access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the > purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the > newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast > things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants > to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones > are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I > heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, > having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is > probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely > not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of > course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would > probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. > Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I > totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder > how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 > times the space) for $100 more. > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not > with the memory it’s offering. > > > > I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s > got an expansion slot for an SD card. > > > > Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this > concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory > on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. > Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. > > > > Victor > > > > *From:*Mr. Ed > > *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM > > *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg > > > > Hi Mary, > > I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. > > Mr. Ed > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red > iPhone - Bloomberg
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The Pixel doesn't have an SD card slot but the S7 series of Samsung Galaxy line does. Google also hasn't had a SD card slot in their phones since the first Nexus phone. Android 6 also added a feature where you could format an SD card and have it treated as an extension to the internal storage on board your phone. I don't think it's an issue of high end Android phones getting away from the SD card slot as much as it is just different philosophies amongst the high end smart phone manufacturers. I don't know how the dimensions compare, but the S7 and the S7 Edge are pretty thin iPhone like phones, and they do have an SD card slot. Furthermore, they're both IP68 rated for water resistance, so adding an extra slot doesn't seem to prohibit water resistance. On 21/03/17 22:47, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor *From:*Mr. Ed *Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marissa Solaun *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb <https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH
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That is aimed at iPad to folks who need to upgrade. And it's only 32 GB. That's not much in this day and age. Then otherwise you jump all the way up to 128, and I'm not sure what the price jump for that one is. The specs are not that much better than the iPad air too. It's actually a little heavier and a little thicker. It has the Anine Chip, which is not the most recent one that Apple has. So it's already a year out of date, which makes it better than the mini for, which is 2+ years out of date. They're selling a bunch of old technology here. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > > Hi Mary, > I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. > Mr. Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a > new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But > these upgrades are no big deal. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the > Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where > a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just > do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more > last yer around the iPhone SE.. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Marissa Solaun > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone > > Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone > More stories by Alex Webb > Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at > the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to > combat AIDS. > > Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at > $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, > part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes > to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. > > “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a > significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our > products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the > way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and > Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement > Tuesday. > > Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing > more than $130 million, the company said. > > Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this > year. > Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which > reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. > Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March > in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the > 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music > and the App Store, and the other products category. > > Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. > Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. > > > The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus > cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and > more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be > available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple > also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display > model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current > capacity and replacing the previous models. > > Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips, that helps > people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through > social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, > which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional > languages: Japanese, French, German, Spa
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Hi Victor, I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot. Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for $100 more. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg I don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb<https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> Apple Inc.<https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, c
Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - BloombergI don’t agree. Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not with the memory it’s offering. I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s got an expansion slot for an SD card. Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this concept, since it would enable them to lower the amount of ROM memory on the device, and allow people to expand according to their budget. Alas, it would seem that Apple is destined not to ever get the message. Victor From: Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said. Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year. Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category. Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models. Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips, that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this lis
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Hi Mary, I would think if you could get a new iPad for $329 that would be a big deal. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone <https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> More stories by Alex Webb <https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/terminal/ON6020MEQTXJ> statement Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said. Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year. Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category. Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. <https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ip8vUiYTHg.8/v2/800x-1.png> The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models. Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html> Clips, that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality <https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i5YSNG8k7G8o/v5/640x-1.jpg> Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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These are not big deal upgrades. If they actually introduce a substantial a new iPad Pro, I would suppose they would do so with a bit more fanfare. But these upgrades are no big deal. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the > Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where > a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just > do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more > last yer around the iPhone SE.. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Marissa Solaun > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - > Bloomberg > > May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone > > Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone > More stories by Alex Webb > Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at > the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to > combat AIDS. > > Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at > $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, > part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes > to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. > > “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a > significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our > products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the > way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and > Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement > Tuesday. > > Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing > more than $130 million, the company said. > > Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this > year. > Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which > reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. > Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March > in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the > 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music > and the App Store, and the other products category. > > Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. > Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. > > > The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus > cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and > more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be > available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple > also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display > model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current > capacity and replacing the previous models. > > Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips, that helps > people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through > social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, > which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional > languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. > > Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@goo
RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
And it’s not even April 1 yet. Is this actually for real? I just heard on the Apple Byte Podcast that Digitimes said there would be an event in April where a new 10.5 inch iPad Pro would be introduced, hard to believe they would just do this without much fanfare, if I remember correctly they did a bit more last yer around the iPhone SE.. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marissa Solaun Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb<https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AQjTH3FjSCY/alex-webb> Apple Inc.<https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AAPL:US> introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said. Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year. Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category. Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. [https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/ip8vUiYTHg.8/v2/800x-1.png] The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models. Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips<http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2017/03/21Apple-Introduces-Clips-The-Fun-New-Way-to-Create-Expressive-Videos-on-iOS.html>, that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality [https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i5YSNG8k7G8o/v5/640x-1.jpg] Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for a
Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg
May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone More stories by Alex Webb Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to combat AIDS. Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS. “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement Tuesday. Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing more than $130 million, the company said. Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year. Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the App Store, and the other products category. Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80. The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing the previous models. Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips, that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese. Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.