Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-17 Thread MamaPeach 

Amen, we need more games that the blind and sighted can play together.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Ruby

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Apple Tv accessible Games

If they build their app from the ground up with accessibility for sighted 
users then there are not just in the blind market. If I was going to write 
an app, this is what I would do. In this way too blind and sighted could 
play together too.


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Of Ed Worrell

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:39 PM
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Some of the developers understand that. The reason I am asking is that they 
feel that there is not enough interest they may have to increase the price 
of the App on the Apple TV, as there is a lot of work that goes into 
creating a game that will work with VoiceOver. The general consensus is that 
the market of Blind users with Apple TVs is very small, and they need to 
make their money back to develop for the ATV interface, and controls. Some 
of them also said that if they can they will keep the price down. They just 
want to know what the price point is.


Ed

On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:35 PM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:

The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
should they be any different in price just because they would be used on 
an Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and 
other games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter 
what it is.


-Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

Hello,

Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
(creators of The NightJar)?


Ed
On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
quality and complexity of the app.

On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Listers,

I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be 
willing
to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with 
a
few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest 
question

is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
price for the apps.

Thanks,

Ed Worrell

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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread MamaPeach 
True, but if the prices get too high, they won't have anyone wanting to buy 
them.


-Original Message- 
From: Ed Worrell

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

Some of the developers understand that. The reason I am asking is that they 
feel that there is not enough interest they may have to increase the price 
of the App on the Apple TV, as there is a lot of work that goes into 
creating a game that will work with VoiceOver. The general consensus is that 
the market of Blind users with Apple TVs is very small, and they need to 
make their money back to develop for the ATV interface, and controls. Some 
of them also said that if they can they will keep the price down. They just 
want to know what the price point is.


Ed

On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:35 PM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:

The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
should they be any different in price just because they would be used on 
an Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and 
other games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter 
what it is.


-Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

Hello,

Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
(creators of The NightJar)?


Ed
On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
quality and complexity of the app.

On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Listers,

I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be 
willing
to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with 
a
few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest 
question

is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
price for the apps.

Thanks,

Ed Worrell

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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread MamaPeach 
The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
should they be any different in price just because they would be used on an 
Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and other 
games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter what 
it is.


-Original Message- 
From: Ed Worrell

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

Hello,

Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
(creators of The NightJar)?


Ed
On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
quality and complexity of the app.

On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Listers,

I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be 
willing

to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest 
question

is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
price for the apps.

Thanks,

Ed Worrell

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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread Ed Worrell 
Hello,

Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind Fold 
Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else (creators 
of The NightJar)?

Ed
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
> quality and complexity of the app.
> 
> On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing
>> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
>> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question
>> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
>> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
>> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
>> price for the apps.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread Ed Worrell 
Some of the developers understand that. The reason I am asking is that they 
feel that there is not enough interest they may have to increase the price of 
the App on the Apple TV, as there is a lot of work that goes into creating a 
game that will work with VoiceOver. The general consensus is that the market of 
Blind users with Apple TVs is very small, and they need to make their money 
back to develop for the ATV interface, and controls. Some of them also said 
that if they can they will keep the price down. They just want to know what the 
price point is.

Ed
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:35 PM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
> should they be any different in price just because they would be used on an 
> Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and other 
> games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
> unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter what 
> it is.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
> Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
> (creators of The NightJar)?
> 
> Ed
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
>> quality and complexity of the app.
>> 
>> On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> 
>>> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing
>>> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
>>> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question
>>> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
>>> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
>>> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
>>> price for the apps.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread goshawk on horseback 
I would second this.
certainly from my point of view, the better quality it is, the more likely I 
am to fork out something decent for it.

Simon


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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games


This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
quality and complexity of the app.

On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing
> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question
> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
> price for the apps.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed Worrell
>
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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread Ed Worrell 
You are right. That’s why they are asking about some price points. I will let 
them know that, thanks for your guys feedback…

Ed
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:42 PM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> True, but if the prices get too high, they won't have anyone wanting to buy 
> them.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games
> 
> Some of the developers understand that. The reason I am asking is that they 
> feel that there is not enough interest they may have to increase the price of 
> the App on the Apple TV, as there is a lot of work that goes into creating a 
> game that will work with VoiceOver. The general consensus is that the market 
> of Blind users with Apple TVs is very small, and they need to make their 
> money back to develop for the ATV interface, and controls. Some of them also 
> said that if they can they will keep the price down. They just want to know 
> what the price point is.
> 
> Ed
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:35 PM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
>> should they be any different in price just because they would be used on an 
>> Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and other 
>> games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
>> unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter what 
>> it is.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
>> Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
>> (creators of The NightJar)?
>> 
>> Ed
>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
>>> quality and complexity of the app.
>>> 
>>> On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing
>>>> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
>>>> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question
>>>> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
>>>> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
>>>> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
>>>> price for the apps.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
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Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread John Diakogeorgiou 
This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
quality and complexity of the app.

On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing
> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question
> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
> price for the apps.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed Worrell
>
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Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread Ed Worrell 
Hello Listers,

I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing to 
pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a few 
people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question is what 
is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a market for 
accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t want to put out 
the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the price for the apps. 

Thanks,

Ed Worrell

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RE: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread Jim Ruby 
If they build their app from the ground up with accessibility for sighted users 
then there are not just in the blind market. If I was going to write an app, 
this is what I would do. In this way too blind and sighted could play together 
too.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

Some of the developers understand that. The reason I am asking is that they 
feel that there is not enough interest they may have to increase the price of 
the App on the Apple TV, as there is a lot of work that goes into creating a 
game that will work with VoiceOver. The general consensus is that the market of 
Blind users with Apple TVs is very small, and they need to make their money 
back to develop for the ATV interface, and controls. Some of them also said 
that if they can they will keep the price down. They just want to know what the 
price point is.

Ed
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:35 PM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
> should they be any different in price just because they would be used on an 
> Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and other 
> games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
> unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter what 
> it is.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
> Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
> (creators of The NightJar)?
> 
> Ed
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
>> quality and complexity of the app.
>> 
>> On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Listers,
>>> 
>>> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be willing
>>> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
>>> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest question
>>> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
>>> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
>>> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
>>> price for the apps.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
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RE: Apple Tv accessible Games

2015-12-16 Thread Jim Ruby 
I have to agree with this, and if I purchased it on my iphone from what I have 
seen you get it for the appletv too under the same purchase.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

The way they are handled in the app store is reasonable in my opinion. Why 
should they be any different in price just because they would be used on an 
Apple TV. The blindfold games offer purchases and the Night Jar and other 
games by that developer are around $4.99, I don't see that those are 
unreasonable. I myself never pay more than $4.99 for any app, no matter what 
it is.

-Original Message- 
From: Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Tv accessible Games

Hello,

Just as an example what would you pay for something like any of the Blind 
Fold Games by Kid Friendly Software, or even the games by SomeThing Else 
(creators of The NightJar)?

Ed
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 12:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> This question is not very easy to answer. It really depends on the
> quality and complexity of the app.
>
> On 12/16/15, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> I am wondering what people with Apple’s 4th Generation Tv would be 
>> willing
>> to pay for accessible games that work with VoiceOver. I am working with a
>> few people to see what can be brought to the ATV, and the biggest 
>> question
>> is what is a fair price for an app. The developers know that there is a
>> market for accessible apps, but it is a very small market, and they don’t
>> want to put out the investment if no-one will be willing to put out the
>> price for the apps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed Worrell
>>
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