Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, the set is wonderfully accessible to the blind and low vision. However, in my opinion, sighted assistance is definitely needed to enable the screen reader, out of the box. Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same television, Not bad; not Bad at all. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003301d8f6ae%24b5fd7a20%2421f86e60%24%40ucla.edu.
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, the set is wonderfully accessible to the blind and low vision. However, in my opinion, sighted assistance is definitely needed to enable the screen reader, out of the box. Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same television, Not bad; not Bad at all. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C07607554b7f346ecc80d08dac4c5db8e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638038651309427935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IjEOfMTb%2BjP7PFQh3wxw9tCK%2FLABYy%2BdLDHuUzA87NM%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F003301d8f6ae%2524b5fd7a20%252421f86e60%2524%2540ucla.edu&data=05%7C01%7C%7C07607554b7f346ecc80d08dac4c5db8e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638038651309427935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GzjiJ6zpTSeHKm9gSHArLMCdSE1aMaYfT9gKnB6JXtY%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re
Re: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
Hi, I have a Samsung TV and she's accessible. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8207D17A-782C-475A-9AEA-DB986B4590FF%40gmail.com.
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
If you are getting a TV and primarily don't have sighted people around to watch it may not make such a big difference, but if you do then an OLED TFV like the LG OLED series, there is a "B", C" and "G" series, are considered among the best. Sony has a new OLED offering this year which also gets very good reviews. The LG "B" series (I think of "B" as budget) is less expensive than the "C" series and the most expensive is the "G" or gaming series. All LG TV's use WebOS as their operating system and they do have voice guidance. We have the original LG 55-inch C-series from 2020, last year the C1 (Gen 1) was released as an upgrade and this year the C2 (Gen 2) came out and these TV's are available I think as small as 42 inch, there is definitely a 48-inch, 55-inch, 65-inch and 75-inch. Another consideration is you have a soundbar like the Sonos Arc which support Dolby Atmos is to make sure the TV you are buying as an "eARC" HDMI port, this stands for "enhanced audio return channel" and unless you connect your Dolby Atmos capable soundbar to your TV on that port you will not get the full Atmos experience. I am sure the Sony OLED TV's are very nice, I really like the LG we bought because it is so very thin and even when it's been running for hours it is cool to the touch which means it obviously does not use very much electricity since anything which gets warm means it is not very efficient. I must admit that I can't say too much about how user friendly the WebOS screenreader is because when we watch TV my wife who is sighted usually does all the navigating, but there is an LG app which allows me to do things likek Play/Pause, change the volume and so on, of course since we have this connected to a Sonos system I can also use the Sonos digital assistant and ask it to turn the volume up or down. I think there is a fair bit of voice input capability as well and the LG remote has a button you push so you can talk to it, but I haven't played around with this yet. Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, the set is wonderfully accessible to the blind and low vision. However, in my opinion, sighted assistance is definitely needed to enable the screen reader, out of the box. Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Rea
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
You're quite welcome, Christopher. One thing I've learned about the latest models of the Sony Bravia line is that they seem to have removed the 3.5 audio jack for headphones. There are a great many articles on the web written by people who are so very disappointed by this fact. I must admit, I was a bit surprised by this, also. There may be some kind of adapter that one can insert into one of the ports but, as yet, I have not researched this very much. There are times, very rarely to be honest, when I like to use a 3.5 audio headset such as when there are several people in the living room and I do not wish to disturb them when they are reading, studying, etc. I only do this once or twice a year but still ... When you receive your new television, if you do not like a great deal of bass and you do not wish to tweak the OS equalizer, set the sound audio to wall unit instead of table top so that the audio will be directed at you instead of being directed towards the table, creating more of a bass sound. It seems to me that my Apple TV 4KHD seems to offer more options now that it is connected to the new television. My imagination? Mark -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, the set is wonderfully accessible to the blind and low vision. However, in my opinion, sighted assistance is definitely needed to enable the screen reader, out of the box. Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same television, Not bad; not Bad at all. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C07607554b7f346ecc80d08dac4c5db8e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638038651309427935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IjEOfMTb%2BjP7PFQh3wxw9tCK%2FLABYy
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
My Sony will be mounted over the fireplace, so I don't think I'll miss the headphone jack! It'll also be tied into our surround sound speaker system. I'm looking forward to sending more audio through our speakers and my wife is looking forward to actually being able to see the basketball players on the screen! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:10 PM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All You're quite welcome, Christopher. One thing I've learned about the latest models of the Sony Bravia line is that they seem to have removed the 3.5 audio jack for headphones. There are a great many articles on the web written by people who are so very disappointed by this fact. I must admit, I was a bit surprised by this, also. There may be some kind of adapter that one can insert into one of the ports but, as yet, I have not researched this very much. There are times, very rarely to be honest, when I like to use a 3.5 audio headset such as when there are several people in the living room and I do not wish to disturb them when they are reading, studying, etc. I only do this once or twice a year but still ... When you receive your new television, if you do not like a great deal of bass and you do not wish to tweak the OS equalizer, set the sound audio to wall unit instead of table top so that the audio will be directed at you instead of being directed towards the table, creating more of a bass sound. It seems to me that my Apple TV 4KHD seems to offer more options now that it is connected to the new television. My imagination? Mark -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, the set is wonderfully accessible to the blind and low vision. However, in my opinion, sighted assistance is definitely needed to enable the screen reader, out of the box. Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same television, Not bad; not Bad at all. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
I guess if that is the only space you have then that is what it is, but mounting a TV that high is not great, it should be eye level when you sit on the couch or wherever you normally sit. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:06 PM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All My Sony will be mounted over the fireplace, so I don't think I'll miss the headphone jack! It'll also be tied into our surround sound speaker system. I'm looking forward to sending more audio through our speakers and my wife is looking forward to actually being able to see the basketball players on the screen! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:10 PM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All You're quite welcome, Christopher. One thing I've learned about the latest models of the Sony Bravia line is that they seem to have removed the 3.5 audio jack for headphones. There are a great many articles on the web written by people who are so very disappointed by this fact. I must admit, I was a bit surprised by this, also. There may be some kind of adapter that one can insert into one of the ports but, as yet, I have not researched this very much. There are times, very rarely to be honest, when I like to use a 3.5 audio headset such as when there are several people in the living room and I do not wish to disturb them when they are reading, studying, etc. I only do this once or twice a year but still ... When you receive your new television, if you do not like a great deal of bass and you do not wish to tweak the OS equalizer, set the sound audio to wall unit instead of table top so that the audio will be directed at you instead of being directed towards the table, creating more of a bass sound. It seems to me that my Apple TV 4KHD seems to offer more options now that it is connected to the new television. My imagination? Mark -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, t
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
Many modern smart TV's can output through their external speakers and via Bluetooth at the same time so you can have a Bluetooth headset connected and turn it on when you want. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 7:10 PM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All You're quite welcome, Christopher. One thing I've learned about the latest models of the Sony Bravia line is that they seem to have removed the 3.5 audio jack for headphones. There are a great many articles on the web written by people who are so very disappointed by this fact. I must admit, I was a bit surprised by this, also. There may be some kind of adapter that one can insert into one of the ports but, as yet, I have not researched this very much. There are times, very rarely to be honest, when I like to use a 3.5 audio headset such as when there are several people in the living room and I do not wish to disturb them when they are reading, studying, etc. I only do this once or twice a year but still ... When you receive your new television, if you do not like a great deal of bass and you do not wish to tweak the OS equalizer, set the sound audio to wall unit instead of table top so that the audio will be directed at you instead of being directed towards the table, creating more of a bass sound. It seems to me that my Apple TV 4KHD seems to offer more options now that it is connected to the new television. My imagination? Mark -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Without needing to first connect the set to the web, I was able to enable the unit's Google screen reader and configure the seemingly endless OS options. I quickly connected my beloved Apple TV to the new set and I can enjoy both the Google TTS and VoiceOver without having to disable either. Just as with Apple TV, the Google screen reader has a shortcut key button so one can quickly enable and disable the Android OS accessibility feature of choice. The cost of the set was approximately $600. Once the screen reader has been enabled, the set is wonderfully accessible to the blind and low vision. However, in my opinion, sighted assistance is definitely needed to enable the screen reader, out of the box. Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same television, Not bad; not Bad at all. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you
RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All
True, but when sighted people are over they're frequently watching the TV from the bar, quite aways away or reclined. It still isn't ideal though, but I don't care and no one else has complained! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 3:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All I guess if that is the only space you have then that is what it is, but mounting a TV that high is not great, it should be eye level when you sit on the couch or wherever you normally sit. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:06 PM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All My Sony will be mounted over the fireplace, so I don't think I'll miss the headphone jack! It'll also be tied into our surround sound speaker system. I'm looking forward to sending more audio through our speakers and my wife is looking forward to actually being able to see the basketball players on the screen! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:10 PM To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All You're quite welcome, Christopher. One thing I've learned about the latest models of the Sony Bravia line is that they seem to have removed the 3.5 audio jack for headphones. There are a great many articles on the web written by people who are so very disappointed by this fact. I must admit, I was a bit surprised by this, also. There may be some kind of adapter that one can insert into one of the ports but, as yet, I have not researched this very much. There are times, very rarely to be honest, when I like to use a 3.5 audio headset such as when there are several people in the living room and I do not wish to disturb them when they are reading, studying, etc. I only do this once or twice a year but still ... When you receive your new television, if you do not like a great deal of bass and you do not wish to tweak the OS equalizer, set the sound audio to wall unit instead of table top so that the audio will be directed at you instead of being directed towards the table, creating more of a bass sound. It seems to me that my Apple TV 4KHD seems to offer more options now that it is connected to the new television. My imagination? Mark -Original Message- From: vipho...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Thanks for the timely post Mark. I'm getting a Sony TV on Thursday. I was debating between that, a Samsung and an LG. I did some checking and they all seem to be accessible, but it's still reassuring to get your confirmation! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple VoiceOver and Google TalkBack Screen Reader on the Same Television, Not Bad; Not Bad at All Hello Everyone, At approximately 6:18 PM, while eating dinner, the video output of my beloved off-brand 42-inch television gave up the ghost. That's right, it just died. The sound was fine, however. It was 12 years and 2 months old. May it rest in piece. (smile). I went over to my local Best Buy and was amazed to discover the number of big screen televisions available for less than $200. Interestingly, all of them were off-bands and offered the bare minimum hardware connectivity options. It took me less than 15 minutes to decide on a Sony X85K Smart TV for several reasons not the least of which being that it has an ethernet port which allows one to instantly connect to the web without having to configure and disclose one's WIfI information. This means that one can instantly disconnect the set from the web by merely disconnecting the cable. A great many things have changed in accessible television technology since I last purchased a television. So you can imagine how delighted I was to discover that this unit offers both Google Talkback and the Google TTS Screen Reader, as separate options, that make the set 100% accessible. Wit
