Re: Apple is greedy, news!
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 12:12 PM Devin Prater wrote: > Oh one hand, I would love being able to install any app I want, wether > it's on the App Store or not. That's one of Epic's things. On the other, > yeah all the accessibility work Apple does, making the Siri voices, > licensing the Vocalizer ones, offering free updates and all, yeah that does > cost money. > > Seems like this is pretty off-topic for this list. Devin makes good points, in addition just the infrastructure to support millions of devices (storage, bandwidth, servers close enough to th security audits, and a huge number of other "housekeeping" issues makes it seriously unfree to manage such an ecosystem. Like an interstate highway system (including bridges, tunnels, etc.) there's a lot of costs. App developers shouldn't expect to "ride for free", unlike the highway system, there's no gas tax or other government subsidies (and one can question if that would be a GoodThing). Determining what the creator(s) of such an infrastructure "should" charge, after the fact, seems like a recipe for destroying the goose. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAHSokPxY54xSofrY4JvjrpHdrVV%2BfsRvLQX4QMOep02UWop%3Dtw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Apple is greedy, news!
Oh one hand, I would love being able to install any app I want, wether it's on the App Store or not. That's one of Epic's things. On the other, yeah all the accessibility work Apple does, making the Siri voices, licensing the Vocalizer ones, offering free updates and all, yeah that does cost money. Devin Prater sent from Gmail. On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 9:51 PM wrote: > Did I miss something? In the article that was posted, it says: > > While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will > still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where > Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook > added for Android stating that it doesn’t charge fees for purchases isn’t > showing up either. > > Isn't this saying Google is waiving it's 30% if Facebook Pay is used? How > does this equate with the media not saying anything about Google? Isn't > this counter to the statement about how greedy Google is? > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > > Of Mary Otten > > Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 9:43 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Apple is greedy, news! > > > > Epic try to get a sweet deal from Apple. Apple said no. Epic got mad. > What > > nobody is talking about is it epic is also going after Google, which > charges the > > same 30% cut that Apple does, although most of the tech press wants to > > concentrate only on Apple. I wonder why. Might it be that it’s because > Google > > will sell your grandma if you’ll let them? Apple isn’t perfect. But they > don’t make > > their money off of selling you. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty > wrote: > > > > > > This sounds like the epic games situation also. > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > > Of janet gross > > > Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm > > > To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' > > > Subject: Apple is greedy, news! > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. > > > > > > August 28, 2020 > > > Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee > Apple > > reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid > online events. > > > 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought > we'd > > run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked > Facebook's > > message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't > showing > > up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the > coverage, of > > course. > > > Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is > getting a > > cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told > Reuters. Earlier > > this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and > creators > > a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since > the > > company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it > vowed not > > to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year." > > > > > > Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store > tax or to > > at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments > directly. By > > doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will > then get 100 > > percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, > prompting > > the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting > Apple on > > blast for its App Store policies. > > > > > > In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will > go to the > > hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly > stating > > that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked > it from > > showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits > developers > > from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a > > statement: > > > > > > "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people > understand > > where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately > > Apple rejected our transparency notice around
RE: Apple is greedy, news!
Did I miss something? In the article that was posted, it says: While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for Android stating that it doesn’t charge fees for purchases isn’t showing up either. Isn't this saying Google is waiving it's 30% if Facebook Pay is used? How does this equate with the media not saying anything about Google? Isn't this counter to the statement about how greedy Google is? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 9:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple is greedy, news! > > Epic try to get a sweet deal from Apple. Apple said no. Epic got mad. What > nobody is talking about is it epic is also going after Google, which charges > the > same 30% cut that Apple does, although most of the tech press wants to > concentrate only on Apple. I wonder why. Might it be that it’s because Google > will sell your grandma if you’ll let them? Apple isn’t perfect. But they > don’t make > their money off of selling you. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > > > This sounds like the epic games situation also. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of janet gross > > Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm > > To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' > > Subject: Apple is greedy, news! > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. > > > > August 28, 2020 > > Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple > reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online > events. > > 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd > run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked > Facebook's > message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing > up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of > course. > > Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is > > getting a > cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. > Earlier > this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and creators > a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since the > company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it vowed > not > to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year." > > > > Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or > > to > at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By > doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get > 100 > percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, prompting > the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting Apple > on > blast for its App Store policies. > > > > In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to > > the > hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating > that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it > from > showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits > developers > from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a > statement: > > > > "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand > where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately > Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still > working to make that information available inside the app experience." > > > > While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will > > still > get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook Pay is > available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for Android > stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up either. > > > > https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app- > store-fee-notice-100501984.html > > > > > > > > Peace Be With You. > > > > > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > > > If you have any questions or
Re: Apple is greedy, news!
Epic try to get a sweet deal from Apple. Apple said no. Epic got mad. What nobody is talking about is it epic is also going after Google, which charges the same 30% cut that Apple does, although most of the tech press wants to concentrate only on Apple. I wonder why. Might it be that it’s because Google will sell your grandma if you’ll let them? Apple isn’t perfect. But they don’t make their money off of selling you. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > This sounds like the epic games situation also. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet > gross > Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm > To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' > Subject: Apple is greedy, news! > > Hi Everyone, > I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. > > August 28, 2020 > Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple > reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online > events. > 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd run > out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked Facebook's > message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing > up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of > course. > Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is > getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told > Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives > businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on > the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during > the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the > next year." > > Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or > to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. > By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then > get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, > prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in > putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies. > > In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to > the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly > stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple > blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that > prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told > Reuters in a statement: > > "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand > where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately > Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still > working to make that information available inside the app experience." > > While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will > still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook > Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for > Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up > either. > > https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html > > > > Peace Be With You. > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB4048AD86F61402A680CEC32B8A280%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is ina
Re: Apple is greedy, news!
how do you really feel? lol -Original Message- From: Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple is greedy, news! This is garbage. Facebook is garbage. Zuckerberg is a criminal. Believe what you want if you want to believe Facebook. But I would rather trust Apple, which at least most of the time actually cares about my privacy. Zuckerberg would sell my grandma if he could. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:37 PM, janet gross wrote: Hi Everyone, I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. August 28, 2020 Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online events. 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of course. Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year." Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies. In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a statement: "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still working to make that information available inside the app experience." While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up either. https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html Peace Be With You. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CH2PR12MB416890BE8ADBDBA47FA66F9FFC280%40CH2PR12MB4168.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the w
RE: Apple is greedy, news!
This sounds like the epic games situation also. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: Apple is greedy, news! Hi Everyone, I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. August 28, 2020 Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online events. 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of course. Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year." Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies. In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a statement: "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still working to make that information available inside the app experience." While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up either. https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html Peace Be With You. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB4048AD86F61402A680CEC32B8A280%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Apple is greedy, news!
This is garbage. Facebook is garbage. Zuckerberg is a criminal. Believe what you want if you want to believe Facebook. But I would rather trust Apple, which at least most of the time actually cares about my privacy. Zuckerberg would sell my grandma if he could. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:37 PM, janet gross wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. > > August 28, 2020 > Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee > Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid > online events. > 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees > Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant > reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid online > events. The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple seems to > bear the brunt of the coverage, of course. > Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is > getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told > Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives > businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on > the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during > the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the > next year." > > Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or > to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. > By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then > get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, > prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in > putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies. > > In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to > the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly > stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple > blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that > prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told > Reuters in a statement: > > "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand > where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately > Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still > working to make that information available inside the app experience." > > While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will > still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook > Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for > Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up > either. > > https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html > > > > Peace Be With You. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CH2PR12MB416890BE8ADBDBA47FA66F9FFC280%40CH2PR12MB4168.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B5005588-921D-441C-9DFE-E4360B56647D%40gmail.com.
Apple is greedy, news!
Hi Everyone, I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested. August 28, 2020 Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online events. 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of course. Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year." Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies. In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a statement: "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still working to make that information available inside the app experience." While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up either. https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html Peace Be With You. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CH2PR12MB416890BE8ADBDBA47FA66F9FFC280%40CH2PR12MB4168.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. <>
