Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos 
Hello James. I'm using the Amazon Basics keyboard and it has a dedicated Home 
button in the F1. So, if I press this 3 times quickly it will toggle VoiceOver 
on or off. However if VoiceOver isn't running, there is no way I'll be able to 
turn it on with the VO-H key because this is only mapped to the keyboard when 
VoiceOver is running.

I hope this makes sense.

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:23, James Mannion  wrote:

> Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
> you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
> because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
> times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
> a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
> recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
> phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
> go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
> running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
> because voiceover is not running.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:
>> That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
>> turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
>> is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
>> Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.
>> 
>> On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:
>>> This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
>>> keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
>>> pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
>>> then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
>>> it back on from the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> Frank Ventura
>>> Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
>>> 
>>> Voicemail: 781 492-4262
>>> Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 
>>> 
>>> *Sent from my Mac Book Air*
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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Frank Ventura 
I just use CONTROL UP ARROW to move to the top of the screen then RIGHT ARROW 
past the body text to the Send button.
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On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw 
mailto:sbgreen...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Has anyone found a way to find the send button after riding a text message 
using a bt keyboard
Sharonda

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:23 AM, James Mannion 
mailto:mannion...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
because voiceover is not running.

Jim

On 10/1/12, Chris mailto:christopher...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.

On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:
This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
it back on from the keyboard.

Frank Ventura
Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com

Voicemail: 781 492-4262
Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 


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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Chris 
Yes, that makes sense, however I could use triple click escape to turn 
VoiceOver back on. Escape appears to be an iKeyboard command and not a 
VoiceOver one.


On 01/10/2012 13:23, James Mannion wrote:

Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
because voiceover is not running.

Jim

On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:

That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.

On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:

This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
it back on from the keyboard.

Frank Ventura
Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com

Voicemail: 781 492-4262
Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 

*Sent from my Mac Book Air*

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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Chris 

Oh, it does here using iKeyboard.

On 01/10/2012 15:52, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:

I will try the command down arrow to get to the bottom of the screen. I am 
quite aware of  where the send button is and until IOS 6, I could reach it by 
using the right arrow. However, after upgrading, right arrow does not work on 
either of my keyboards to get to Send. Hence the reason for my email. thanks!
Sharonda

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Kliphton  wrote:


It's in the same spot all the time.  You can either arrow all the way to the 
right, until it boobs at you, or use command downarrow to take you to the end 
of your screen, and it will be there also.

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:


Has anyone found a way to find the send button after riding a text message 
using a bt keyboard
Sharonda

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:23 AM, James Mannion  wrote:


Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
because voiceover is not running.

Jim

On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:

That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.

On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:

This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
it back on from the keyboard.

Frank Ventura
Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com

Voicemail: 781 492-4262
Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 

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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw 
I will try the command down arrow to get to the bottom of the screen. I am 
quite aware of  where the send button is and until IOS 6, I could reach it by 
using the right arrow. However, after upgrading, right arrow does not work on 
either of my keyboards to get to Send. Hence the reason for my email. thanks!
Sharonda

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Kliphton  wrote:

> It's in the same spot all the time.  You can either arrow all the way to the 
> right, until it boobs at you, or use command downarrow to take you to the end 
> of your screen, and it will be there also.
> 
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> On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone found a way to find the send button after riding a text message 
>> using a bt keyboard 
>> Sharonda 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:23 AM, James Mannion  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
>>> you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
>>> because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
>>> times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
>>> a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
>>> recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
>>> phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
>>> go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
>>> running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
>>> because voiceover is not running.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:
 That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
 turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
 is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
 Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.
 
 On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:
> This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
> keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
> pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
> then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
> it back on from the keyboard.
> 
> Frank Ventura
> Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
> 
> Voicemail: 781 492-4262
> Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 
> 
> *Sent from my Mac Book Air*
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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Kliphton 
It's in the same spot all the time.  You can either arrow all the way to the 
right, until it boobs at you, or use command downarrow to take you to the end 
of your screen, and it will be there also.

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:

> Has anyone found a way to find the send button after riding a text message 
> using a bt keyboard 
> Sharonda 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 
> 
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:23 AM, James Mannion  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
>> you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
>> because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
>> times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
>> a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
>> recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
>> phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
>> go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
>> running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
>> because voiceover is not running.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:
>>> That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
>>> turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
>>> is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
>>> Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.
>>> 
>>> On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:
 This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
 keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
 pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
 then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
 it back on from the keyboard.
 
 Frank Ventura
 Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
 
 Voicemail: 781 492-4262
 Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 
 
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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw 
Has anyone found a way to find the send button after riding a text message 
using a bt keyboard 
Sharonda 

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:23 AM, James Mannion  wrote:

> Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
> you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
> because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
> times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
> a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
> recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
> phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
> go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
> running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
> because voiceover is not running.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:
>> That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
>> turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
>> is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
>> Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.
>> 
>> On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:
>>> This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
>>> keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
>>> pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
>>> then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
>>> it back on from the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> Frank Ventura
>>> Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
>>> 
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>>> Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 
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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread James Mannion 
Hi, It makes sense that after turning it off with the keyboard that
you would not be able to turn it back on with the keyboard. This is
because the voiceover command, VO-H that you used by pressing it 3
times quickly, simulating pressing the home button 3 times quickly, is
a voiceover command. I do not believe that any voiceover commands are
recognized when voiceover is not running. So therefore of course the
phone recognizes that you are pressing its actual home button when you
go over to the phone and press it, however without voiceover actually
running, it can not recognize VO-H as a press of the home button
because voiceover is not running.

Jim

On 10/1/12, Chris  wrote:
> That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also
> turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This
> is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button!
> Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.
>
> On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:
>> This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
>> keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
>> pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
>> then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
>> it back on from the keyboard.
>>
>> Frank Ventura
>> Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
>> 
>> Voicemail: 781 492-4262
>> Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 
>>
>> *Sent from my Mac Book Air*
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Re: BT keyboard oddity

2012-10-01 Thread Chris 
That's not weird because vo-h activates the home button. Now I can also 
turn off VoiceOver on the iPhone with 3 presses of the escape key! This 
is because iKeyboard uses the escape key to activate the home button! 
Not sure if I can turn it on though. Hope so.


On 01/10/2012 07:34, Frank Ventura wrote:

This is weird and I never noticed it before. If you are using a BT
keyboard and hit VO H three times fast it turns off VO just as if you
pressed the home button three times quickly. Weird thing is that other
then getting up and walking to the iPhone I cant find a way of turning
it back on from the keyboard.

Frank Ventura
Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com

Voicemail: 781 492-4262
Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com 

*Sent from my Mac Book Air*

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