Re: Discouraging News From The App Store
Hi Dennis, They can just submit the update with previous functionality removed, see if Apple approves it, and if they don't approve it, the dev can just put back the functionality and resubmit it. I don't think this is an issue where the developer would need to consult a lawyer. There's no risk to them in just trying it out and see if Apple approves it. The guidelines are pretty clear to me, Apple says to please not disable previously purchased functionality. However, I think what might happen is the app will just fly under the radar if Apple's review team doesn't notice or doesn't think it's a huge deal. It's entirely possible Voice Dream's developers will be able to push this through regardless of what the guidelines on that page state. Grant Hardy On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 3:57 PM Dennis Long wrote: > I would think Voicedream has lawyers that reviewed the developer agreement > at length. I suspect they are able to do this. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 4:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Discouraging News From The App Store > > Apple advisors have been known to get things wrong, it will be interesting > to hear what others hear about this. I called Apple about the voice dream > situation, as to whether they could disable part of their app if we don't > subscribe. He was very familiar with the guideline that some on this list > would say that they can't do that. He said that guideline only applied to > Apple products. Third party app developers are not subject to this > guideline. As I stated before, these advisors have been known tin get it > wrong sometimes. Let's hope this is one of those times. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/99FA67DC-9C1F-4CCD-AEED-24E7FDE58DC9%40gmail.com > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00e901da8487%24e7a40b30%24b6ec2190%24%40gmail.com > . > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAAhK5Q_SOA%3DWVP2t_WM3EZU%3D-VvmOHmaHeyfDPjJDwTzX2W_ig%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Discouraging News From The App Store
Can’t speak for the Voice Dream team, but it’s usually a whole lot easier just to submit and let Apple approve or send back any changes that need to be made during the submission process. Hope this helps. Cheers! Cara > On Apr 1, 2024, at 4:56 PM, Dennis Long wrote: > > I would think Voicedream has lawyers that reviewed the developer agreement at > length. I suspect they are able to do this. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold > Schmidt > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 4:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Discouraging News From The App Store > > Apple advisors have been known to get things wrong, it will be interesting to > hear what others hear about this. I called Apple about the voice dream > situation, as to whether they could disable part of their app if we don't > subscribe. He was very familiar with the guideline that some on this list > would say that they can't do that. He said that guideline only applied to > Apple products. Third party app developers are not subject to this guideline. > As I stated before, these advisors have been known tin get it wrong > sometimes. Let's hope this is one of those times. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/99FA67DC-9C1F-4CCD-AEED-24E7FDE58DC9%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00e901da8487%24e7a40b30%24b6ec2190%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F8E64A6-9EBF-472B-A16A-7618EADF2D7F%40gmail.com.
RE: Discouraging News From The App Store
I would think Voicedream has lawyers that reviewed the developer agreement at length. I suspect they are able to do this. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Discouraging News From The App Store Apple advisors have been known to get things wrong, it will be interesting to hear what others hear about this. I called Apple about the voice dream situation, as to whether they could disable part of their app if we don't subscribe. He was very familiar with the guideline that some on this list would say that they can't do that. He said that guideline only applied to Apple products. Third party app developers are not subject to this guideline. As I stated before, these advisors have been known tin get it wrong sometimes. Let's hope this is one of those times. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/99FA67DC-9C1F-4CCD-AEED-24E7FDE58DC9%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00e901da8487%24e7a40b30%24b6ec2190%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Discouraging News From The App Store
He's simply wrong about that guideline. Those guidelines are for third-party developers who submit apps to the App Store. Only that team will be able to ultimately make the final decision. Those guidelines are Apple telling developers what's expected of them on the App Store, Apple wouldn't write and publish guidelines for Apple themselves. In this case the support person is incorrect. Grant Hardy On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:16 PM Arnold Schmidt wrote: > Apple advisors have been known to get things wrong, it will be interesting > to hear what others hear about this. I called Apple about the voice dream > situation, as to whether they could disable part of their app if we don't > subscribe. He was very familiar with the guideline that some on this list > would say that they can't do that. He said that guideline only applied to > Apple products. Third party app developers are not subject to this > guideline. As I stated before, these advisors have been known tin get it > wrong sometimes. Let's hope this is one of those times. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/99FA67DC-9C1F-4CCD-AEED-24E7FDE58DC9%40gmail.com > . > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAAhK5Q_KFjB3sAh6RYa9ZJunFTigNVyW_D-CXbPV80WMOA8vSg%40mail.gmail.com.
Discouraging News From The App Store
Apple advisors have been known to get things wrong, it will be interesting to hear what others hear about this. I called Apple about the voice dream situation, as to whether they could disable part of their app if we don't subscribe. He was very familiar with the guideline that some on this list would say that they can't do that. He said that guideline only applied to Apple products. Third party app developers are not subject to this guideline. As I stated before, these advisors have been known tin get it wrong sometimes. Let's hope this is one of those times. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/99FA67DC-9C1F-4CCD-AEED-24E7FDE58DC9%40gmail.com.
