RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Even in hospitals body temperature is not checked with a rectal thermometer or one you clamp in your arm pit any more, usually they use a forehead or ear thermometer The new Apple Watch has two temperature sensors, one is on the bottom of the watch against the skin of your arm and one is somewhere on the top which checks your surround temperature and then Apple uses some algorithm they developed to calculate body temperature. As I already pointed out, they didn't mention at all this can be used for determining fever and such, but I guess it's enough to detect changes in body temperature which they say may help women to determine when Ovulation occurs. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 5:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I’m wondering how it checks basal body temp, the only way I know to do it is to put the thermometer in places I sure don’t want my phone going From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 12:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 Good thing you won't get pregnant any more, you already reached your man-o-pause 50 years ago From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 Hi Sieghard, You better get one of these new apple watches to check your temperature so you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I’m wondering how it checks basal body temp, the only way I know to do it is to put the thermometer in places I sure don’t want my phone going From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 12:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 Good thing you won't get pregnant any more, you already reached your man-o-pause 50 years ago From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 Hi Sieghard, You better get one of these new apple watches to check your temperature so you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the LiDAR feature. As for the Apple Watch I think I'll
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Again suggest it they might be able to role it back to say phones with the a15 chip. Maybe not to but if we don’t ask we will never know. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I wonder why they can't bring the chime to all models? They own the firmware on all models, after all. Ah well. Hopefully it'll spread to the next SE. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all iPhone 14 models have. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CHELA Robles Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the email I got. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce <mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > Kelly > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > >> wrote: >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >> from the year before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >> system and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and >> Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >> it took a while for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >> never happen) you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added >> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Good thing you won't get pregnant any more, you already reached your man-o-pause 50 years ago From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 Hi Sieghard, You better get one of these new apple watches to check your temperature so you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the LiDAR feature. As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon. In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Hi Sieghard, You better get one of these new apple watches to check your temperature so you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the LiDAR feature. As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon. In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it outright. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderat
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I assume the same way as you would get to the status bar which is by touching near the top. But of course nobody really knows for sure especially from the perspective of a Voiceover user because nobody has tried it yet. This is new on the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max and with preorders starting tomorrow and phones starting to ship by next Friday it will be at least another 8 days before the first people who are going to preorder tomorrow will get their phones. I guess those who get one at an Apple store on Friday the 16th will be the first. In any case, this dynamic island as far as I can tell is basically a status bar on Steroids so just touching near the top where it is located should do the trick. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 Get me smart, how does one get to the dynamic island? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a friend the other day and in the process of that there was a point where I was messaging them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to arrive, but I kept on having to switch between the 2 apps to check the progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp on the main screen but then being able to just slide my finger up to the island to get an at a glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast while I'm doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not interesting enough to make a purchase though, especially given my new SE2022. On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly wrote: > The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the > iPhone > 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip. > > Alan Lemly > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option >> which all iPhone 14 models have. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of CHELA Robles >> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 >> >> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will >> forward the email I got. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: >>> >>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. >>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available >>> until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, >>> which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. >>> >>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first >>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to >>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is >>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out. >>> >>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, >>> which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network >>> in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 >>> Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>> >>>>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection >>>> and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said >>>> during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively >>>> used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get >>>> pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your >>>> body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >>>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >>>> T >>>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >>>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >>>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >>>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >>>> >>>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >>&g
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Get me smart, how does one get to the dynamic island? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a friend the other day and in the process of that there was a point where I was messaging them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to arrive, but I kept on having to switch between the 2 apps to check the progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp on the main screen but then being able to just slide my finger up to the island to get an at a glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast while I'm doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not interesting enough to make a purchase though, especially given my new SE2022. On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly wrote: > The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the > iPhone > 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip. > > Alan Lemly > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option >> which all iPhone 14 models have. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of CHELA Robles >> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 >> >> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will >> forward the email I got. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: >>> >>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. >>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available >>> until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, >>> which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. >>> >>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first >>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to >>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is >>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out. >>> >>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, >>> which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network >>> in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 >>> Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>> >>>>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection >>>> and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said >>>> during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively >>>> used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get >>>> pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your >>>> body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >>>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >>>> T >>>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >>>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >>>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >>>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >>>> >>>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >>>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time >>>> Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in >>>> the one from the year before. >>>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new >>>> camera system and always-on display possible. >>>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >>>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised >>>> when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This >>>> would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service >>>> and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the >>>> United States and Canada at that point. >>>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >>>> the case (Ap
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a friend the other day and in the process of that there was a point where I was messaging them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to arrive, but I kept on having to switch between the 2 apps to check the progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp on the main screen but then being able to just slide my finger up to the island to get an at a glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast while I'm doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not interesting enough to make a purchase though, especially given my new SE2022. On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly wrote: > The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the iPhone > 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip. > > Alan Lemly > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which >> all iPhone 14 models have. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> CHELA Robles >> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 >> >> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward >> the email I got. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: >>> >>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. >>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until >>> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is >>> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. >>> >>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first >>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to >>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is >>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out. >>> >>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which >>> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in >>> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini >>> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>> >>>>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >>>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >>>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >>>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >>>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >>>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >>>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >>>> T >>>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >>>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >>>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >>>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >>>> >>>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >>>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >>>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >>>> from the year before. >>>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >>>> system and always-on display possible. >>>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >>>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >>>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >>>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >>>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States >>>> and Canada at that point. >>>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >>>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >>>> it took a while for Canada to get it). >>>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >>>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >>>> never happen) you may get help quicker. >>>&g
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I assume it’s a hardware change since they want to give you the chime before the operating system is loaded. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I wonder why they can't bring the chime to all models? They own the firmware on all models, after all. Ah well. Hopefully it'll spread to the next SE. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all iPhone 14 models have. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA Robles Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the email I got. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce > mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > Kelly > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> >> wrote: >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >> from the year before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >> system and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and >> Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >> it took a while for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >> never happen) you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added >> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also >> share your location via Find My
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
It let's you know the iPhone is starting up, so you don't have to just hold the power button down and hope it's coming up or hope you're waiting long enough before you hear VoiceOver prompt is heard. It'll also help you set up your iPhone before you have VoiceOver working. You'll know when to triple press the power button. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 What is the chime supposed to do, just be like a "hey I'm alive now" indicator? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all iPhone 14 models have. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CHELA Robles Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the email I got. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > Kelly > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >> from the year before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >> system and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and >> Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >> it took a while for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >> never happen) you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the iPhone 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which > all iPhone 14 models have. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CHELA > Robles > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 > > I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the > email I got. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: >> >> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. >> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until >> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is >> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. >> >> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first >> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to >> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is >> giving itself two years to figure all of this out. >> >> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which >> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in >> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini >> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. >> >> Kelly >> >> >>>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >>> T >>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >>> >>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >>> from the year before. >>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >>> system and always-on display possible. >>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and >>> Canada at that point. >>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >>> it took a while for Canada to get it). >>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >>> never happen) you may get help quicker. >>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 >>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >>> >>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 >>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you >>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added >>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also >>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite >>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, >>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's >>> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
What is the chime supposed to do, just be like a "hey I'm alive now" indicator? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all iPhone 14 models have. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CHELA Robles Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the email I got. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > Kelly > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >> from the year before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >> system and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and >> Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >> it took a while for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >> never happen) you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added >> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also >> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite >> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, >> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's >> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires >> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and >> receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big >> production of pointing your iPhone to where the
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I wonder why they can't bring the chime to all models? They own the firmware on all models, after all. Ah well. Hopefully it'll spread to the next SE. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which > all iPhone 14 models have. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > CHELA Robles > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 > > I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward > the email I got. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > > > Kelly > > > > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and > >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during > >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for > >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, > >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body > >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body > >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. > >> T > >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba > >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to > >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a > >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. > >> > >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they > >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple > >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one > >> from the year before. > >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera > >> system and always-on display possible. > >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency > >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when > >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would > >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of > >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States > and Canada at that point. > >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always > >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where > >> it took a while for Canada to get it). > >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you > >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will > >> never happen) you may get help quicker. > >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 > Plus. > >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. > >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 > >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. > >> > >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 > >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you > >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added > >> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also > >> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite > >> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, > >> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's > >> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger w
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Yes there is nothing in the 14 that excites me. I’m definitely going to treat myself to a new watch though as I’m still using a series 4. Chris Judge <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: September 7, 2022 8:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the LiDAR feature. As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon. In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it outright. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about th
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all iPhone 14 models have. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CHELA Robles Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the email I got. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > Kelly > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and >> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during >> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for >> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, >> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body >> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body >> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba >> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to >> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a >> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they >> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple >> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one >> from the year before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >> system and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency >> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when >> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would >> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of >> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and >> Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always >> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where >> it took a while for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you >> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will >> never happen) you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 >> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 >> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you >> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added >> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also >> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite >> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, >> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's >> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires >> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and >> receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big >> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An >> Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it >> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna >> which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. >> Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again >> somethin
RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
If the satellite functionality doesn't work above 62 degrees North they probably use Globalstar satellites because Iridium definitely work much further north than that and probably do so all the way to the pole. And 62 degrees is not really all that far north in Canada since the border between the provinces to the Territories west of Hudson Bay runs along the 60th parallel. Whitehorse, the capital of the Yukon Territory is between 60 and 61 degrees, Yellowknife, the capital of the Northwest Territory is at well over 62 degrees. In Alaska Anchorage is just below the 62nd parallel, but Fairbanks is well over 64 degrees. I guess the number of people who live above 62 degrees is quite small when compared to the population of the country, but then again it is where this service would be most needed and where a lot of work happens like mining, oil/gas and so on. I think this will be a great feature for the places further south in Canada where the largest number of people venture out into the outdoors because in Vancouver for example one can be just a few miles from the city in some valley in the mountains and you won't have cell coverage. There are dozens and maybe hundreds of search and rescue call outs each year when some city slicker in running shoes and shorts thinks they need to go for a hike in the north shore mountains, in Vancouver it's maybe nice and warm yet even now in September the days are getting short and you can run into very nasty weather in the mountains. I don't see this new feature taking away much business from companies like Garmin or Zoleo yet because these devices are much more reliable and while it costs money and it isn't cheap, if you are really spending a lot of time out of cell coverage and you have to communicate for work or whatever then these are still your best option. A plan with unlimited messages is about $70 Canadian a month, but you can also suspend it if you mostly use the device only during the summer, then you pay $5/month which keeps everything active until you activate it again for full usage. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14 The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is giving itself two years to figure all of this out. Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. Kelly On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and > the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during > the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for > cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, > they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body > temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body > temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. > T > He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba > diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the > Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive > computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. > > The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they > didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple > released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one > from the year before. > The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera > system and always-on display possible. > I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS > via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they > said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would > indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of > course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and > Canada at that point. > For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always > the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where > it took a while for Canada to get it). > Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are > driving with s
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the email I got. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. > An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until > November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is > the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. > > I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first > phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to > price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is > giving itself two years to figure all of this out. > > Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which > has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in > America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini > and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. > > Kelly > > >> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the >> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event >> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and >> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could >> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings >> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or >> not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving >> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines >> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's >> definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't >> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new >> iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year >> before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system >> and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via >> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it >> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, >> that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget >> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case >> (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while >> for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are >> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) >> you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will >> now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 >> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend >> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind >> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via >> Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send >> text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated >> devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course >> also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody >> and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big >> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or >> Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine >> and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the >> presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is >> definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple >> has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so >> Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was >> that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is >> probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say >> which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. >> >> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it >> would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the >> LiDAR feature. >> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it >> doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I >> experience what Arnold
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation. An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska. I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is giving itself two years to figure all of this out. Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones. Kelly On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the > build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event > that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and > may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could > simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings > Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or > not. > T > He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving > than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines > I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's > definitely an impressive watch. > > The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't > say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new > iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year > before. > The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system > and always-on display possible. > I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via > satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it > was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, > that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget > that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. > For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case > (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while > for Canada to get it). > Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are > driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) > you may get help quicker. > As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. > Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. > Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will > now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. > > Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 > Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend > considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind > the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via > Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send > text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated > devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course > also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody > and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big > production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or > Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine > and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the > presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is > definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple > has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so > Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was > that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is > probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say > which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. > > Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it > would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the > LiDAR feature. > As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it > doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I > experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be > pregnant any time soon. > In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I > can't refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am > on their priority list and will get a call in case I
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
iOS 16 compatible iPhones will include the new 14's and the following: iPhone 13 iPhone 13 mini iPhone 13 Pro iPhone 13 Pro Max iPhone 12 iPhone 12 mini iPhone 12 Pro iPhone 12 Pro Max iPhone 11 iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 Pro Max iPhone XS iPhone XS Max iPhone XR iPhone X iPhone 8 iPhone 8 Plus iPhone SE (3rd generation) iPhone SE (2nd generation) Older iPhone Models Won’t Get iOS 16 https://screenrant.com/ios-16-supported-compatible-iphone-models-list/ Richard “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Sep 7, 2022, at 5:36 PM, CHELA Robles wrote: > > One more thing to add the AirPods Pro is getting a new upgrade starting at > $249 as usual so I may trade in my current version or iteration of the pros > and get the next pro model they have tinier earbud silicone tips which is > what I need since the current ones are not tiny enough for my ear canals lol! > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>> >> I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is >> no reason to upgrade from this particular watch. >> >> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! >> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>> I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! >>> > On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
One more thing to add the AirPods Pro is getting a new upgrade starting at $249 as usual so I may trade in my current version or iteration of the pros and get the next pro model they have tinier earbud silicone tips which is what I need since the current ones are not tiny enough for my ear canals lol! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: > > I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is > no reason to upgrade from this particular watch. > > Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>> >> I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro. >> >> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! >> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the >>> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event >>> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and >>> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could >>> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings >>> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or >>> not. >>> T >>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving >>> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines >>> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's >>> definitely an impressive watch. >>> >>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't >>> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a >>> new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year >>> before. >>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >>> system and always-on display possible. >>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via >>> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it >>> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, >>> that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget >>> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. >>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the >>> case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a >>> while for Canada to get it). >>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are >>> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never >>> happen) you may get help quicker. >>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models >>> will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >>> >>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 >>> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend >>> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind >>> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location >>> via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply >>> send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have >>> dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger >>> which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you >>> can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have >>> to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. >>> An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it >>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which >>> during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the >>> satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and >>> innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the >>> next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What >>> surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for >>> this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and >>> they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. >>> Iridium or Globalstar. >>> >>> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do >>> it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain >>> the LiDAR feature. >>> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it >>> doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I >>> experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be >>> pregnant any time soon. >>> In any case, I'll wait to see if my
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
Well I thought the audio description was really good. I just wanna say that I’m gonna stick with my iPhone 8 Plus until it’s no longer supported with iOS versions anymore and obviously until it bites the dust or greatly has a significantly degraded battery then I will consider the later models of phones as for the Apple Watch I have The fifth series and until that bites the dust and is no longer supported regarding watchOS versions, I will use that. The ultrasounds really good and so does the eight model. No mention of iOS 16 being compatible with older phones but we shall see once it’s rolled out. if I remember correctly the 8+ will support iOS 16 but I could be very wrong. and of course I think watchOS 9 will support series 5 of its watch. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: > > I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is > no reason to upgrade from this particular watch. > > Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: >>> >> I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro. >> >> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! >> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the >>> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event >>> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and >>> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could >>> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings >>> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or >>> not. >>> T >>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving >>> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines >>> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's >>> definitely an impressive watch. >>> >>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't >>> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a >>> new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year >>> before. >>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera >>> system and always-on display possible. >>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via >>> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it >>> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, >>> that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget >>> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. >>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the >>> case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a >>> while for Canada to get it). >>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are >>> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never >>> happen) you may get help quicker. >>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models >>> will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >>> >>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 >>> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend >>> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind >>> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location >>> via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply >>> send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have >>> dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger >>> which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you >>> can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have >>> to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. >>> An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it >>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which >>> during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the >>> satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and >>> innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the >>> next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What >>> surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for >>> this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and >>> they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. >>> Iridium or Globalstar. >>> >>> Will I upgrade from my
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is no reason to upgrade from this particular watch. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: > > I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro. > > Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > >>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >> >> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the >> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event >> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and >> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could >> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings >> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or >> not. >> T >> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving >> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines >> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's >> definitely an impressive watch. >> >> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't >> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new >> iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. >> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system >> and always-on display possible. >> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via >> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it >> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, >> that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget >> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. >> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case >> (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while >> for Canada to get it). >> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are >> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) >> you may get help quicker. >> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. >> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. >> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will >> now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. >> >> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 >> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend >> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind >> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via >> Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send >> text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated >> devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course >> also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody >> and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big >> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or >> Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine >> and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the >> presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is >> definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple >> has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so >> Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was >> that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is >> probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say >> which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. >> >> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it >> would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the >> LiDAR feature. >> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it >> doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I >> experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be >> pregnant any time soon. >> In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I >> can't refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am >> on their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the >> new iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy >> it outright. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel
Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro. Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!! > On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the > build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event > that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and > may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could > simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings > Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or > not. > T > He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than > I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I > might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's > definitely an impressive watch. > > The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say > it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new > iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. > The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system > and always-on display possible. > I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via > satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was > going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that > ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it > is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once > Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple > New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for > Canada to get it). > Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are > driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) > you may get help quicker. > As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. > Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. > Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will > now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. > > Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 > Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend > considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind > the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via > Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send > text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated > devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course > also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody > and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big > production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or > Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and > none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation > Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a > good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced > and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones > will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems > to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way > they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network > they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. > > Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it > would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the > LiDAR feature. > As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't > have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what > Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon. > In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't > refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on > their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new > iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it > outright. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >
First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not. T He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch. The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before. The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system and always-on display possible. I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it). Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may get help quicker. As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus. Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured. Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on. Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar. Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the LiDAR feature. As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon. In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it outright. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
