Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Wallis

Hi list, I am after a bit of help from stand scan users,
I just got my stand scan today and got some sighted help to assemble it.

I have the pro version, so far I haven't noticed any improvements with 
my results when using it.


When I use prismo in combination with the stand scan I don't even get 
usable images.
When I use text detective with the product I get a mangled version of 
the stand scans facebook address.
Does anyone have any tips for getting better results? as at the moment I 
am beginning to wonder if I wasted my money on a glorified box.
I decided to get it when I read the examples that were posted of very 
readable crossword book pages.
I have never managed to get prismo to work in all the time I have used 
it, and the only OCR app I have had limited success with is text detective.


I am pretty sure my camera on the phone is lined up correctly as I just 
feel for the little lens circle in the top right corner next to the 
sleep button.
I put it over the hole then feel underneath to check its lined up with 
the hole.


I have the document I am doing test scans with lying directly on the 
bottom of the box and I try to make sure its lined up with the hole.
I have tried turning the document in pretty much all directions with no 
success apart from the mangled facebook address.
The document I am testing with is the little set of instructions that 
came with stand scan.

thanks so much for any help,
Alex.

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Re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread David Chittenden
Did you get the StandScan or the StandScan Pro? The StandScan Pro has lights 
along the top back of the box that you plug in. If you got the StandScan, it is 
highly likely you do not have enough light on your document. Also, is your 
iPhone completely square to the top of the box? If not, your image is skewed 
and you will not get an understandable OCR.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 03/04/2013, at 5:53, Alex Wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi list, I am after a bit of help from stand scan users,
 I just got my stand scan today and got some sighted help to assemble it.
 
 I have the pro version, so far I haven't noticed any improvements with my 
 results when using it.
 
 When I use prismo in combination with the stand scan I don't even get usable 
 images.
 When I use text detective with the product I get a mangled version of the 
 stand scans facebook address.
 Does anyone have any tips for getting better results? as at the moment I am 
 beginning to wonder if I wasted my money on a glorified box.
 I decided to get it when I read the examples that were posted of very 
 readable crossword book pages.
 I have never managed to get prismo to work in all the time I have used it, 
 and the only OCR app I have had limited success with is text detective.
 
 I am pretty sure my camera on the phone is lined up correctly as I just feel 
 for the little lens circle in the top right corner next to the sleep button.
 I put it over the hole then feel underneath to check its lined up with the 
 hole.
 
 I have the document I am doing test scans with lying directly on the bottom 
 of the box and I try to make sure its lined up with the hole.
 I have tried turning the document in pretty much all directions with no 
 success apart from the mangled facebook address.
 The document I am testing with is the little set of instructions that came 
 with stand scan.
 thanks so much for any help,
 Alex.
 
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re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Wallis

Hi David,
I definitely got the pro version as it plugs in,
I also used the viPhone code when getting the product.

I must admit when I put the camera on the hole it isn't square along the 
top of the box,
this is because when I put it completely square along the box it doesn't 
feel like the camera is anywhere near the hole,
I have also done tests with the light detector app and have found that I 
get the highest pitch when I place the phone kind of diagonally across 
the top of the box.


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Re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi Alex,
Once you line up the camera and the hole with your finger, you can use
two U.S. pennies to align the iPhone with the front edge of the Stand
Scan.

The side of the phone with the volume and mute switches should be
parallel with the front edge one penny's width back.

Hope this helps,
Chuck

On Apr 2, 10:30 am, Alex Wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi David,
 I definitely got the pro version as it plugs in,
 I also used the viPhone code when getting the product.

 I must admit when I put the camera on the hole it isn't square along the
 top of the box,
 this is because when I put it completely square along the box it doesn't
 feel like the camera is anywhere near the hole,
 I have also done tests with the light detector app and have found that I
 get the highest pitch when I place the phone kind of diagonally across
 the top of the box.

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RE: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Alex,  

That will not do.  When your phone is not squared with the box, your text is
diagonal and that won't work at all.  Put your camera over the hole and
square off the camera with the front and the right side of the box.  When
you get it right, put some sticky locater dots on the box so you always have
the same position.  I stuck 2 strips of Velcro on mine so I can feel the
right position.

HTH

Ron  Danvers
   

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Subject: re: Having issues with stand scan

Hi David,
I definitely got the pro version as it plugs in, I also used the viPhone
code when getting the product.

I must admit when I put the camera on the hole it isn't square along the top
of the box, this is because when I put it completely square along the box it
doesn't feel like the camera is anywhere near the hole, I have also done
tests with the light detector app and have found that I get the highest
pitch when I place the phone kind of diagonally across the top of the box.

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re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Wallis

Hi Chuck,
thanks for your message,
I am from the UK so don't know what a US penny is like.

I have been trying to keep the lens of the camera completely over the hole,
your message suggests that maybe I am going wrong.

When I try to put the phone parallel with the edge of the box it feels 
like the phone is hanging over slightly.
I am placing the phone length wise across the box in landscape in other 
words.

Is this wrong?

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Re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Alex,

Your phone will need to be about half an inch in from the front edge. Put it to 
the right of the hole with the Home button to the right. It has to be square on 
to the text you want to scan.

Cheers,

Anne


On 2 Apr 2013, at 20:27, Alex Wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Chuck,
 thanks for your message,
 I am from the UK so don't know what a US penny is like.
 
 I have been trying to keep the lens of the camera completely over the hole,
 your message suggests that maybe I am going wrong.
 
 When I try to put the phone parallel with the edge of the box it feels like 
 the phone is hanging over slightly.
 I am placing the phone length wise across the box in landscape in other words.
 Is this wrong?
 

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Re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi Alex,
Once your Stand scan is set up properly, you should be facing the
opening.
The document should be placed in the opening print side up with the
top to the left.

The phone should be parallel to the box, with the camera over the
hole. The home button to the right, the sleep, or on -off button to
the left and the volume controls to the front.

The U.S. Penny is 19 mm and the British new penny is a little over 20
mm, so it should also work.  So, once you have the phone roughly in
position use two new pennies to gauge the proper distance from the
front edge of the stand scan to the edge of the iPhone with the volume
switches.

BTW. I am using an iPhone 4 S. I think this will also work with the
iPhone 5, but the iPhone 3G has rounded edges and may be more
difficult to feel.

Chuck



On Apr 2, 11:27 am, Alex Wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Chuck,
 thanks for your message,
 I am from the UK so don't know what a US penny is like.

 I have been trying to keep the lens of the camera completely over the hole,
 your message suggests that maybe I am going wrong.

 When I try to put the phone parallel with the edge of the box it feels
 like the phone is hanging over slightly.
 I am placing the phone length wise across the box in landscape in other
 words.
 Is this wrong?

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RE: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

Your phone should be going along the length of the box so there is no way it
can be hanging off the edge.  That is where your problem is.

HTH

Ron  Danvers


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Hi Chuck,
thanks for your message,
I am from the UK so don't know what a US penny is like.

I have been trying to keep the lens of the camera completely over the hole,
your message suggests that maybe I am going wrong.

When I try to put the phone parallel with the edge of the box it feels like
the phone is hanging over slightly.
I am placing the phone length wise across the box in landscape in other
words.
Is this wrong?

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Re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread David Chittenden
In that case, you have explained very well why the OCR is not working. Forget 
about the light probe. As long as the lights are plugged in, they are on and 
providing appropriate light.

It is critical that you set the iPhone square to the box. Setting the iPhone in 
diagonal means the image is so skewed that OCR WILL NOT WORK.

Square to the box means: with the camera in the upper right corner of the back 
of the iPhone over the hole in the top of the box, the opposite side, the side 
with the volume buttons, is along the edge of the box. The entire side of the 
phone is the same distance from the edge of the box. This eliminates skew as 
much as possible so the page can be recognised using OCR.

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On 03/04/2013, at 6:30, Alex Wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi David,
 I definitely got the pro version as it plugs in,
 I also used the viPhone code when getting the product.
 
 I must admit when I put the camera on the hole it isn't square along the top 
 of the box,
 this is because when I put it completely square along the box it doesn't feel 
 like the camera is anywhere near the hole,
 I have also done tests with the light detector app and have found that I get 
 the highest pitch when I place the phone kind of diagonally across the top of 
 the box.
 
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Re: Having issues with stand scan

2013-04-02 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hello Alex,

I will try to give a different spin on the directions, so that you can align 
the phone's camera propcrly on the StandScan. Think of the oval apeture as a 
rectangle. For right-handed individual, place the upper right corner at the 
upper left corner of the apeture. Make sure you don't leave any space on the 
left side or the top edge of the apeture. The home button will be pointing to 
the right. By setting up camera this way, there should be about 1/2 inch space 
from the long edge of the StandScan and the phone. I used a Wicki Stick to mark 
the position of the phone on the box. I made the lenght of the Wicki Stick the 
same lenght of the phone and laid it on the back of the phone. This gave me an 
indicator for good alignment and it help not to move the phone when taking the 
picture or reading the OCR on the phone. I hope all of this makes sense to you. 
Contact me off list if you need more assistance.

Best,
Eileen

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On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Alex,
 Once your Stand scan is set up properly, you should be facing the
 opening.
 The document should be placed in the opening print side up with the
 top to the left.
 
 The phone should be parallel to the box, with the camera over the
 hole. The home button to the right, the sleep, or on -off button to
 the left and the volume controls to the front.
 
 The U.S. Penny is 19 mm and the British new penny is a little over 20
 mm, so it should also work.  So, once you have the phone roughly in
 position use two new pennies to gauge the proper distance from the
 front edge of the stand scan to the edge of the iPhone with the volume
 switches.
 
 BTW. I am using an iPhone 4 S. I think this will also work with the
 iPhone 5, but the iPhone 3G has rounded edges and may be more
 difficult to feel.
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 2, 11:27 am, Alex Wallis alexwallis...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Chuck,
 thanks for your message,
 I am from the UK so don't know what a US penny is like.
 
 I have been trying to keep the lens of the camera completely over the hole,
 your message suggests that maybe I am going wrong.
 
 When I try to put the phone parallel with the edge of the box it feels
 like the phone is hanging over slightly.
 I am placing the phone length wise across the box in landscape in other
 words.
 Is this wrong?
 
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