RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Chris Smart]

not to mention, Canadians can join Bookshare too.
Then there's iBooks, Kindle, Voice Dream Reader, etc. We've never had
access to so many books!
At 05:30 PM 9/20/2015, you wrote:
As a Canadian I usually don’t
read threads about BARD, but while the CNIB library may not have all the
newest books, they nonetheless do have a lot of good reads or listens and
the Direct to Player app actually works pretty good. You log in to the
CNIB Digital Library, find a boolk you want to listen to (you can do this
on a computer or with Safari on the iPhone) and then tell it to use
Direct to Player instead of downloading it, then you open the Direct to
Player iOS app and you can stream or download the book.
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
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Ummm... Apples and Oranges.  BARD was created by the U.S. government
for U.S. citizens.  If those in Canada what something similar, they
should talk to CNIB or other Canadian government agencies.  
 
Now back to talking about Apple and its products (Smile). 
 
 
  David Justice :) 
 
On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:27 AM, Kerri G
<kerri.g1...@icloud.com
> wrote:


Also, it’  not just apple, we Canadians *always get things
last, have yo forgotten we do not have BARD? oh well, I’m staying with
apple et al until something comes along where Canadians can be on an
equal playing field.

 

It is better to have a heart without words than words without a
heart. ~Ghandi

 


On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk
<bbssh...@icloud.com>
wrote:

 

The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower
on the totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until
Apple Music, we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons
why I'm not jumping for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't
get Apple News. I've kinda gotten used to us getting things last or not
getting them at all, and I guess that's kinda a pathetic way of looking
at things, but hey, that's Apple for you. But I'm not gonna go back to a
PC or switch to Android because of a little thing like that because
bottom line is Apple is the best in terms of accessibility. I would reach
out to Apple via social media about the unfair advantage but 1, Apple
doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I doubt that if we complain to Tim
Cook about it through his Twitter feed that he'd listen to us.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime:
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On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari
<muktake...@gmail.com>
wrote:

 

Dear friends,

 

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features
that was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that
this app (which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other
legal issues) is not available in India.  I was looking forward to
it.  I am sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is
viewing as its primary market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the
News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  Having said this,
it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing less than the
global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through
its website as well as social media.  

 

With best wishes,

 

Ketan

 

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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Chris Smart]

Try to be patient. It's not available in most countries yet. 
At 02:51 AM 9/19/2015, you wrote:
Dear friends,
 
On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that
was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app
(which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal
issues) is not available in India.  I was looking forward to
it.  I am sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is
viewing as its primary market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the
News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  Having said this,
it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing less than the
global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through
its website as well as social media.  
 
With best wishes,
 
Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[David Justice]

Ummm... Apples and Oranges.  BARD was created by the U.S. government for U.S. 
citizens.  If those in Canada what something similar, they should talk to CNIB 
or other Canadian government agencies.  

Now back to talking about Apple and its products (Smile). 


  David Justice :) 


> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:27 AM, Kerri G  wrote:
> 
> Also, it’  not just apple, we Canadians *always get things last, have yo 
> forgotten we do not have BARD? oh well, I’m staying with apple et al until 
> something comes along where Canadians can be on an equal playing field.
> 
> It is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. ~Ghandi
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower on the 
>> totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until Apple 
>> Music, we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons why I'm not 
>> jumping for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't get Apple News. 
>> I've kinda gotten used to us getting things last or not getting them at all, 
>> and I guess that's kinda a pathetic way of looking at things, but hey, 
>> that's Apple for you. But I'm not gonna go back to a PC or switch to Android 
>> because of a little thing like that because bottom line is Apple is the best 
>> in terms of accessibility. I would reach out to Apple via social media about 
>> the unfair advantage but 1, Apple doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I 
>> doubt that if we complain to Tim Cook about it through his Twitter feed that 
>> he'd listen to us.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear friends,
>>>  
>>> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that 
>>> was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which 
>>> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is 
>>> not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is 
>>> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and 
>>> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian 
>>> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not 
>>> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian 
>>> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed 
>>> to Apple through its website as well as social media. 
>>>  
>>> With best wishes,
>>>  
>>> Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Aman Singer]

Hi Sieghard,

I don't see any, and can't really thinhk of any besides possibly
spelling issues and other text formatting. I would be stunned if Siri
had any problems, affter all, people with their region set to United
States will travel around the world and want to use Siri. Similarly,
the developer guide for language/region doesn't mention anything that
sounds too vital
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPInternational/SpecifyingPreferences/SpecifyingPreferences.html
I haven't had any issues myself, of course.
Sorry not to have been more conclusive, I would be interested in
anyone else's experiences.
Aman

On 9/19/15, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> Hi Aman,
>
> Can you think of any disadvantages with respect to setting your region to
> United States, e.g. will it have an impact on SIRI not finding things etc.?
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Aman Singer
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 4:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple
>
> Hi,
> I think the News app is more or less an RSS reader with Apple spying
> built in. It's quite a nice and accessible reader, I like it, but I
> don't see anything that can't be gotten elsewhere fairly comfortably.
> Note that it might be more worth-while for us because it is very
> accessible both with braille and speech.  Having said that, and if you
> don't mind any information sharing issues, you can get the news app
> fairly easily despite not being in the United States. I have tried the
> app in Canada without difficulties. To get it, use the instructions at
> http://www.cultofmac.com/328592/how-to-get-ios-9s-news-app-outside-the-u-s/
> The article mentions the beta, but this works fine on iOS 9's final
> version on my 5S. Basically, the instructions are to go to settings,
> general, region/language, and then, under the region and formats
> heading, tap the button to select your region. tap "united states",
> then done, then reboot the phone. The news app should show up on the
> home screen. Obviously, you'll be stuck with US regional defaults if
> you do this, but these are not significant, in my view.
> I hope all that is of use.
> Aman
>
> 15, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that
>> was
>> being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which
>> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues)
>> is
>> not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is
>> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and
>> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to
>> Indian
>> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not
>> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its
>> Indian
>> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed
>> to
>> Apple through its website as well as social media.
>>
>> With best wishes,
>>
>> Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Kerri G]

Oh I use all the tools you mentioned but I was only saying this as I get really 
tired of the content being somewhat inaccessible for us. I’ve seen this in Book 
share, audible etc etc.




> On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> As a Canadian I usually don’t read threads about BARD, but while the CNIB 
> library may not have all the newest books, they nonetheless do have a lot of 
> good reads or listens and the Direct to Player app actually works pretty 
> good. You log in to the CNIB Digital Library, find a boolk you want to listen 
> to (you can do this on a computer or with Safari on the iPhone) and then tell 
> it to use Direct to Player instead of downloading it, then you open the 
> Direct to Player iOS app and you can stream or download the book.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Justice
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple
>  
> 
> Ummm... Apples and Oranges.  BARD was created by the U.S. government for U.S. 
> citizens.  If those in Canada what something similar, they should talk to 
> CNIB or other Canadian government agencies.  
>  
> Now back to talking about Apple and its products (Smile). 
>  
>  
>   David Justice :) 
>  
> 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:27 AM, Kerri G <kerri.g1...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:kerri.g1...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Also, it’  not just apple, we Canadians *always get things last, have yo 
>> forgotten we do not have BARD? oh well, I’m staying with apple et al until 
>> something comes along where Canadians can be on an equal playing field.
>>  
>> It is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. 
>> ~Ghandi
>>  
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower on the 
>>> totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until Apple 
>>> Music, we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons why I'm 
>>> not jumping for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't get Apple 
>>> News. I've kinda gotten used to us getting things last or not getting them 
>>> at all, and I guess that's kinda a pathetic way of looking at things, but 
>>> hey, that's Apple for you. But I'm not gonna go back to a PC or switch to 
>>> Android because of a little thing like that because bottom line is Apple is 
>>> the best in terms of accessibility. I would reach out to Apple via social 
>>> media about the unfair advantage but 1, Apple doesn't have a Twitter 
>>> account and 2, I doubt that if we complain to Tim Cook about it through his 
>>> Twitter feed that he'd listen to us.
>>>  
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>  
>>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:muktake...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>  
>>>> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that 
>>>> was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app 
>>>> (which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal 
>>>> issues) is not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am 
>>>> sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary 
>>>> market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made 
>>>> available to Indian consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered 
>>>> that Apple does not charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or 
>>>> Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue 
>>>> and should be conveyed to Apple through its website as well as social 
>>>> media. 
>>>>  
>>>> With best wishes,
>>>>  
>>>> Ketan
>>>>  
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RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As a Canadian I usually don’t read threads about BARD, but while the CNIB 
library may not have all the newest books, they nonetheless do have a lot of 
good reads or listens and the Direct to Player app actually works pretty good. 
You log in to the CNIB Digital Library, find a boolk you want to listen to (you 
can do this on a computer or with Safari on the iPhone) and then tell it to use 
Direct to Player instead of downloading it, then you open the Direct to Player 
iOS app and you can stream or download the book.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Justice
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

 


Ummm... Apples and Oranges.  BARD was created by the U.S. government for U.S. 
citizens.  If those in Canada what something similar, they should talk to CNIB 
or other Canadian government agencies.  

 

Now back to talking about Apple and its products (Smile). 

 

 

  David Justice :) 

 


On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:27 AM, Kerri G <kerri.g1...@icloud.com 
<mailto:kerri.g1...@icloud.com> > wrote:

Also, it’  not just apple, we Canadians *always get things last, have yo 
forgotten we do not have BARD? oh well, I’m staying with apple et al until 
something comes along where Canadians can be on an equal playing field.

 

It is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. ~Ghandi

 

On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower on the 
totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until Apple Music, 
we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons why I'm not jumping 
for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't get Apple News. I've kinda 
gotten used to us getting things last or not getting them at all, and I guess 
that's kinda a pathetic way of looking at things, but hey, that's Apple for 
you. But I'm not gonna go back to a PC or switch to Android because of a little 
thing like that because bottom line is Apple is the best in terms of 
accessibility. I would reach out to Apple via social media about the unfair 
advantage but 1, Apple doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I doubt that if we 
complain to Tim Cook about it through his Twitter feed that he'd listen to us.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> 

 

On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com 
<mailto:muktake...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Dear friends,

 

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which should 
not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is not 
available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is also one 
of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and neither Apple 
maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  
Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing 
less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel 
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through its 
website as well as social media.  

 

With best wishes,

 

Ketan

 

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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Kerri G]

It is copyright issues but it is a rotten issue is all Iwas saying.

>   there is no sharper blade than truth in a mouth of lies, no more
> treacherouslie than that from an honest man

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am sure this has more to do with agreements with the media outlets for 
> legal and copyright complications than just carelessness from Apple.  Apple 
> has no right to give its users access to copy right material without signing 
> agreements with the providers of this material.  That is why the service is 
> available in some countries and in some languages and not in others.
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple
>  
> And here in Mexico as well as in Latin America? when will the News app be 
> available?
> 
> El 19/09/2015 01:51 a.m., Ketan Kothari escribió:
>> Dear friends,
>>  
>> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
>> being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which 
>> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is 
>> not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is 
>> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and 
>> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian 
>> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not 
>> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian 
>> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to 
>> Apple through its website as well as social media. 
>>  
>> With best wishes,
>>  
>> Ketan
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RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Aman,

Can you think of any disadvantages with respect to setting your region to 
United States, e.g. will it have an impact on SIRI not finding things etc.?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

Hi,
I think the News app is more or less an RSS reader with Apple spying
built in. It's quite a nice and accessible reader, I like it, but I
don't see anything that can't be gotten elsewhere fairly comfortably.
Note that it might be more worth-while for us because it is very
accessible both with braille and speech.  Having said that, and if you
don't mind any information sharing issues, you can get the news app
fairly easily despite not being in the United States. I have tried the
app in Canada without difficulties. To get it, use the instructions at
http://www.cultofmac.com/328592/how-to-get-ios-9s-news-app-outside-the-u-s/
The article mentions the beta, but this works fine on iOS 9's final
version on my 5S. Basically, the instructions are to go to settings,
general, region/language, and then, under the region and formats
heading, tap the button to select your region. tap "united states",
then done, then reboot the phone. The news app should show up on the
home screen. Obviously, you'll be stuck with US regional defaults if
you do this, but these are not significant, in my view.
I hope all that is of use.
Aman

15, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was
> being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which
> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is
> not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is
> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and
> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian
> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not
> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian
> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to
> Apple through its website as well as social media.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Kerri G]

Also, it’  not just apple, we Canadians *always get things last, have yo 
forgotten we do not have BARD? oh well, I’m staying with apple et al until 
something comes along where Canadians can be on an equal playing field.

It is better to have a heart without words than words without a heart. ~Ghandi

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower on the 
> totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until Apple Music, 
> we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons why I'm not jumping 
> for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't get Apple News. I've 
> kinda gotten used to us getting things last or not getting them at all, and I 
> guess that's kinda a pathetic way of looking at things, but hey, that's Apple 
> for you. But I'm not gonna go back to a PC or switch to Android because of a 
> little thing like that because bottom line is Apple is the best in terms of 
> accessibility. I would reach out to Apple via social media about the unfair 
> advantage but 1, Apple doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I doubt that if 
> we complain to Tim Cook about it through his Twitter feed that he'd listen to 
> us.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari > > wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends,
>>  
>> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
>> being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which 
>> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is 
>> not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is 
>> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and 
>> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian 
>> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not 
>> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian 
>> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to 
>> Apple through its website as well as social media. 
>>  
>> With best wishes,
>>  
>> Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Shawn Krasniuk]

The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower on the 
totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until Apple Music, 
we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons why I'm not jumping 
for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't get Apple News. I've kinda 
gotten used to us getting things last or not getting them at all, and I guess 
that's kinda a pathetic way of looking at things, but hey, that's Apple for 
you. But I'm not gonna go back to a PC or switch to Android because of a little 
thing like that because bottom line is Apple is the best in terms of 
accessibility. I would reach out to Apple via social media about the unfair 
advantage but 1, Apple doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I doubt that if we 
complain to Tim Cook about it through his Twitter feed that he'd listen to us.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> 
> Dear friends,
>  
> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
> being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which 
> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is 
> not  available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is 
> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and 
> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian 
> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not 
> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian 
> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to 
> Apple through its website as well as social media. 
>  
> With best wishes,
>  
> Ketan
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IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear friends,

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which should 
not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is not 
available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is also one 
of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and neither Apple 
maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  
Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing 
less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel 
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through its 
website as well as social media.  

With best wishes,

Ketan

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RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ketan,

 

You are not alone, the News app isn’t even available in Canada and we are right 
next door to The mighty United States of Apple.

Furthermore, Apple for some reason which of course can’t have anything at all 
to do with money, decided that Canadian carriers should charge their customers 
77% more for an iPhone on contract than in the States. The American Dollar 
currently is worth about 35% more than the Canadian Dollar, i.e. it takes 1.35 
canadian Dollars to buy one American Dollar. For example, an iPhone 6S 64 Gb, 
if I interpret this correctly, costs $299 on contract in the States. Based on 
the exchange rate, said phone should cost approx. $400 or just over here in 
Canada. However, in order to get it Canadians have to plunk down $530 for the 
phone with 2-year contract.

Interestingly enough, if I buy a phone outright from Apple, the price is very 
close to the US price by the time I factor in the normal exchange.

It is definitely interesting how often features which Apple touts as extremely 
awesome are also extremely limited in their availability.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ketan Kothari
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mobile.accessin...@accessindia.org.in
Subject: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

 

Dear friends,

 

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which should 
not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is not 
available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is also one 
of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and neither Apple 
maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  
Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing 
less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel 
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through its 
website as well as social media.  

 

With best wishes,

 

Ketan

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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Kelly Pierce]

The benefits of the news app can be obtained through an RSS app like
Lire.  iTunes Radio had an algorithm inferior to that of Pandora.
with Apple Music, the selection is inferior to that of Spotify.  Apple
Music is available in 100 countries though.

Kelly

On 9/19/15, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> The way I see things, countries like Canada and even India are lower on the
> totem pole compared to the US. We didn't have iTunes Radio until Apple
> Music, we still don't have Apple Pay which is one of the reasons why I'm not
> jumping for joy about the iPhone 6 series, and now we don't get Apple News.
> I've kinda gotten used to us getting things last or not getting them at all,
> and I guess that's kinda a pathetic way of looking at things, but hey,
> that's Apple for you. But I'm not gonna go back to a PC or switch to Android
> because of a little thing like that because bottom line is Apple is the best
> in terms of accessibility. I would reach out to Apple via social media about
> the unfair advantage but 1, Apple doesn't have a Twitter account and 2, I
> doubt that if we complain to Tim Cook about it through his Twitter feed that
> he'd listen to us.
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 1:51 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that
>> was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app
>> (which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal
>> issues) is not  available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am
>> sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary
>> market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made
>> available to Indian consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered
>> that Apple does not charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or
>> Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue
>> and should be conveyed to Apple through its website as well as social
>> media.
>>
>> With best wishes,
>>
>> Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Aman Singer]

Hi,
I think the News app is more or less an RSS reader with Apple spying
built in. It's quite a nice and accessible reader, I like it, but I
don't see anything that can't be gotten elsewhere fairly comfortably.
Note that it might be more worth-while for us because it is very
accessible both with braille and speech.  Having said that, and if you
don't mind any information sharing issues, you can get the news app
fairly easily despite not being in the United States. I have tried the
app in Canada without difficulties. To get it, use the instructions at
http://www.cultofmac.com/328592/how-to-get-ios-9s-news-app-outside-the-u-s/
The article mentions the beta, but this works fine on iOS 9's final
version on my 5S. Basically, the instructions are to go to settings,
general, region/language, and then, under the region and formats
heading, tap the button to select your region. tap "united states",
then done, then reboot the phone. The news app should show up on the
home screen. Obviously, you'll be stuck with US regional defaults if
you do this, but these are not significant, in my view.
I hope all that is of use.
Aman

15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was
> being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which
> should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is
> not available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is
> also one of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and
> neither Apple maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian
> consumers.  Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not
> charge nothing less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian
> consumers.  I feel that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to
> Apple through its website as well as social media.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Ketan
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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

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We haven't got the News app either in the UK, unless we set language to US.  I 
don't want to do that so will do without as there are plenty of other sources 
for the news for the moment.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 8:04 AM
  Subject: RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple


  Hi Ketan,

   

  You are not alone, the News app isn’t even available in Canada and we are 
right next door to The mighty United States of Apple.

  Furthermore, Apple for some reason which of course can’t have anything at all 
to do with money, decided that Canadian carriers should charge their customers 
77% more for an iPhone on contract than in the States. The American Dollar 
currently is worth about 35% more than the Canadian Dollar, i.e. it takes 1.35 
canadian Dollars to buy one American Dollar. For example, an iPhone 6S 64 Gb, 
if I interpret this correctly, costs $299 on contract in the States. Based on 
the exchange rate, said phone should cost approx. $400 or just over here in 
Canada. However, in order to get it Canadians have to plunk down $530 for the 
phone with 2-year contract.

  Interestingly enough, if I buy a phone outright from Apple, the price is very 
close to the US price by the time I factor in the normal exchange.

  It is definitely interesting how often features which Apple touts as 
extremely awesome are also extremely limited in their availability.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ketan Kothari
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 11:51 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mobile.accessin...@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

   

  Dear friends,

   

  On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which should 
not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is not 
available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is also one 
of the markets that Apple is viewing as its primary market and neither Apple 
maps nor apps like the News apps are made available to Indian consumers.  
Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing 
less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel 
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through its 
website as well as social media.  

   

  With best wishes,

   

  Ketan

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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Here in Mexico, for instance, with the exchange rate being 17 Mexican 
Pesos in a US dollar, an IPhone 5S or above, ends up costing an 
astounding $1 Mexican! thus here in Mexico, either no choice but to 
switch to the competition like I did, or stick with older models like 4S 
etc.


El 19/09/2015 02:04 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:


Hi Ketan,

You are not alone, the News app isn’t even available in Canada and we 
are right next door to The mighty United States of Apple.


Furthermore, Apple for some reason which of course can’t have anything 
at all to do with money, decided that Canadian carriers should charge 
their customers 77% more for an iPhone on contract than in the States. 
The American Dollar currently is worth about 35% more than the 
Canadian Dollar, i.e. it takes 1.35 canadian Dollars to buy one 
American Dollar. For example, an iPhone 6S 64 Gb, if I interpret this 
correctly, costs $299 on contract in the States. Based on the exchange 
rate, said phone should cost approx. $400 or just over here in Canada. 
However, in order to get it Canadians have to plunk down $530 for the 
phone with 2-year contract.


Interestingly enough, if I buy a phone outright from Apple, the price 
is very close to the US price by the time I factor in the normal 
exchange.


It is definitely interesting how often features which Apple touts as 
extremely awesome are also extremely limited in their availability.


Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Ketan Kothari

*Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 11:51 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; mobile.accessin...@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

Dear friends,

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features 
that was being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this 
app (which should not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other 
legal issues) is not available in India.  I was looking forward to 
it.  I am sure India is also one of the markets that Apple is viewing 
as its primary market and neither Apple maps nor apps like the News 
apps are made available to Indian consumers.  Having said this, it is 
to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing less than the 
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website as well as social media.


With best wishes,

Ketan

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RE: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Cris Ali]

I am sure this has more to do with agreements with the media outlets for legal 
and copyright complications than just carelessness from Apple.  Apple has no 
right to give its users access to copy right material without signing 
agreements with the providers of this material.  That is why the service is 
available in some countries and in some languages and not in others.

Regards,

 

Cris

 

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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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And here in Mexico as well as in Latin America? when will the News app be 
available?

El 19/09/2015 01:51 a.m., Ketan Kothari escribió: 

Dear friends,

 

On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features that was 
being touted was the News app.  I am sad to report that this app (which should 
not cost anything extra to Apple or have any other legal issues) is not 
available in India.  I was looking forward to it.  I am sure India is also one 
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Having said this, it is to be remembered that Apple does not charge nothing 
less than the global price of Iphone or Ipad from its Indian consumers.  I feel 
that this is an important issue and should be conveyed to Apple through its 
website as well as social media.  

 

With best wishes,

 

Ketan

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Re: IOS 9 and big brotherly attitude of Apple

[Gerardo Corripio]

 And here in Mexico as well as in Latin America? when will the News app 
be available?


El 19/09/2015 01:51 a.m., Ketan Kothari escribió:

Dear friends,
On 16th of Sept. IOS 9 got launched and one of the biggest features 
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