Re: Exporting contacts list

2024-06-03 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, I expect this will be a start to your process.
It appears to be that one logins to icloud.com/contacts/ and then can export 
contacts from there. Personally while trying to guess how to do this I found 
the select all in the more menu, but did not find a way to export the selected 
contacts.

Of course if you have a Macintosh or have the iCloud app for Windows then you 
should be able to use the functionality of your computer to do the export.
But since the BlindShell is essentially a Android device in a simple shell the 
below link should provide some resources.
 
https://www.imobie.com/support/icloud-contacts-to-android.htm


> On Jun 3, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Hey Donald,
> 
> I imagine there aren’t very many Blind Shell 2 users on this e-mail list.  
> Can you offer how you might be able to load such contact information on your 
> phone?
> 
> If you can receive e-mail on this phone you could use the “Share” feature 
> available on iOS.  Of course, this would be quite time consuming, but it 
> would certainly be more efficient than manually entering each contact on the 
> Blind Shell.
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin
> - “More business is lost every year through”
> - “neglect than through any other cause.”
> - Rose Kennedy
> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Donald Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have an S E 2 running IOS 17.4. In addition to my S E 2, I also have a 
>> Blind Shell 2 phone. If possible, I want to export my Iphone contacts list 
>> to a .vcf file. If this can be done, please tell me what program I need and 
>> how to do the export.
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
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Re: Exporting contacts list

2024-06-03 Thread Bill Gallik
Hey Donald,

I imagine there aren’t very many Blind Shell 2 users on this e-mail list.  Can 
you offer how you might be able to load such contact information on your phone?

If you can receive e-mail on this phone you could use the “Share” feature 
available on iOS.  Of course, this would be quite time consuming, but it would 
certainly be more efficient than manually entering each contact on the Blind 
Shell.



- Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin
- “More business is lost every year through”
- “neglect than through any other cause.”
- Rose Kennedy


> On Jun 2, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Donald Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> I have an S E 2 running IOS 17.4. In addition to my S E 2, I also have a 
> Blind Shell 2 phone. If possible, I want to export my Iphone contacts list to 
> a .vcf file. If this can be done, please tell me what program I need and how 
> to do the export.
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> Don Roberts
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Exporting contacts list

2024-06-02 Thread Donald Roberts
I have an S E 2 running IOS 17.4. In addition to my S E 2, I also have a 
Blind Shell 2 phone. If possible, I want to export my Iphone contacts 
list to a .vcf file. If this can be done, please tell me what program I 
need and how to do the export.


Thanks much.

Don Roberts

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Hello All, Testing the List, Please ignore

2024-05-22 Thread M. Taylor
As the subject states, just checking the list settings.

Mark


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Re: Voice Dream Email List for users

2024-04-05 Thread The Evil Chocolate Cookie
Still isn’t going to fix anything. They are still liars and Backstabbers and nothing is going to change that.On Apr 3, 2024, at 2:29 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:In an effort to build better communication with the community, the developers of Voice Dream have created an email list for users to join.

This list is for discussing problems and bugs, future features and interest, etc.

They have admitted that their communication in the past was not good. Now they have went on the Living Blindfully podcast with Jonathan, and now created this email list. I would say that this is definitely a step in the right direction.

If you would like to join the list, just send an email to:
voice-dream+subscr...@groups.io

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Voice Dream Email List for users

2024-04-03 Thread Chris Chaffin
In an effort to build better communication with the community, the developers 
of Voice Dream have created an email list for users to join.

This list is for discussing problems and bugs, future features and interest, 
etc.

They have admitted that their communication in the past was not good. Now they 
have went on the Living Blindfully podcast with Jonathan, and now created this 
email list. I would say that this is definitely a step in the right direction.

If you would like to join the list, just send an email to: 
voice-dream+subscr...@groups.io

Chris Chaffin

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RE: Address for the Voice Dream email list.

2024-04-02 Thread Richard Turner
To be clear, the Voice Dream Products list was started by a user and is not 
officially a part of Voice Dream, but there are quite a few users of Voice 
Dream apps on that list.  I hope the current owners are going to start their 
own list just for Voice Dream Reader.

The address to subscribe is: 

voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io 
<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

HTH,

 

Richard, USA

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

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Hello all, I was not aware that there was an email list for Voice Dream 
products. Could someone send me the address to subscribe to this list many 
thanks.

 

 

 

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Address for the Voice Dream email list.

2024-04-02 Thread Kerry Macdonald
Hello all, I was not aware that there was an email list for Voice Dream 
products. Could someone send me the address to subscribe to this list many 
thanks.



Kerry

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Re: Has anyone successfully created an Apple ID for another country App Store? If so, can you message me off list? Thanks.

2024-03-01 Thread Jen .
Hi,
Can you please send step-by-step instructions?
What did you use for a phone number?
Jen

On Mar 1, 2024, at 5:05 AM, Suzy Djouma  wrote:


Yes this can be done. I live in the UK and have an Apple ID for Australia and 
US. You just have to have an address to put in the  inclusive to the billing 
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Re: Has anyone successfully created an Apple ID for another country App Store? If so, can you message me off list? Thanks.

2024-03-01 Thread Suzy Djouma
Yes this can be done. I live in the UK and have an Apple ID for Australia and 
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2024-03-01 Thread Jen .
Hi not sure if this is OK to post here so hence the reason why I am asking for 
off list assistance so won't get in any trouble what I would like to do is 
download an app that is only available in the US App Store. However, I am in 
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> Hello, I have an autistic cousin, who relies on his iPhone for apps and games 
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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-05 Thread William James
It’s all good Sieghard!  No problem! LOL!  Best I can do since I can’t get emojis on this bluetooth keyboard.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Feb 5, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







And I should have put a 
藍 or  emoji after it because I meant my comment not in a negative way, was just bugging you.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 10:43 AM
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But by saying “The knothead who ran the list” you do in fact say quite a lot.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of William James
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The knothead who ran the list all of a sudden shut down the list and deleted over 20 years of archives.  I could say more, but my mom told me if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!

 


 


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max


 

On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Richard <richard.pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:





Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if there’s a page or other information about the list.
 


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    I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And I should have put a 藍 or  emoji after it because I meant my comment not in 
a negative way, was just bugging you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

But by saying “The knothead who ran the list” you do in fact say quite a lot.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

The knothead who ran the list all of a sudden shut down the list and deleted 
over 20 years of archives.  I could say more, but my mom told me if you don't 
have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Richard 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list


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of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a 
question, it says the group is not available any more.
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general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
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2024-02-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
But by saying “The knothead who ran the list” you do in fact say quite a lot.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

The knothead who ran the list all of a sudden shut down the list and deleted 
over 20 years of archives.  I could say more, but my mom told me if you don't 
have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max


On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Richard 
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Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.

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Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list


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Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where 
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I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-04 Thread Mo Khan
hi, which list are you looking for? david goldfield seems to have a number
of mailing lists very good some active. thank you.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 7:43 PM Richard  wrote:

> Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see
> if there’s a page or other information about the list.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Mária Orovcíková
> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
>
>
>
> Hello all,
> please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and
> many people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info
> here.
> I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active,
> but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried
> to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
> Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list
> where general questions about technology can be posted?
> I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
> If you have more info, please write me at:
> maria.orovcik...@gmail.com
> Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
> Thanks.
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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-04 Thread sherrywells1157
I apologize if this goes to the whole list.  I tried replying directly to 
sender but viphone still showed up instead.

 

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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-04 Thread davycuppens
Hello 

 

If you are German, I am Belgian but speak German very well and I know some 
interesting lists in that country than write me private on davycupp...@gmail.com

 

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread Marda
Well I* have trouble sending links so I would have to write out the web 
address and you'd have to do it that way if you wanted me to send you 
anything.  There are tons of blindness-related lists. Are you looking 
for only tech-related ones or do you want general chat lists run by 
blind people that often (but not always) discuss directly 
blindness-related things or there are several recipe and cooking lists 
related to being a blind cook or a blind crafter and then there are 
lists for organizations like ACB and NFB that have lots of other lists 
relating to specific topics such as crafts or guide dogs or whatever.  
So if you want people to send you blindness lists, it would be helpful 
to indicate further areas of interest.


Marda

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread Mike B.
Hi Tanja,

There's another called, Blind-T, and you can subscribe using the email 
address below.

blind-t+subscr...@groups.io

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
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  Thank you so much for the links. If someone knows about more groups which 
are of interest to blind / visually impaired people feel free to send them 
to me privately or here in the list so that I can subscribe to them AS well. 
Thank you so much!

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread Mike B.
No, It's gone, but the owner Mike Capelle did start a new group called 
BlindTechDiscuss.  The subscribe email is below.

blindtechdiscuss+subscr...@groups.io

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.



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Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list



Hello all,
please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but 
all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to 
post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where 
general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
If you have more info, please write me at:
maria.orovcik...@gmail.com
Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
Thanks.
Maria

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread William James
The knothead who ran the list all of a sudden shut down the list and deleted over 20 years of archives.  I could say more, but my mom told me if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Feb 3, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Richard  wrote:Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if there’s a page or other information about the list. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária OrovcíkováSent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list Hello all,please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.    I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where general questions about technology can be posted?I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.If you have more info, please write me at:maria.orovcik...@gmail.comJust to avoid off-topic discussion here.Thanks.Maria-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c516620d-a99a-4516-8a42-4ace5d346e11%40gmail.com.



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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread joseph hudson
Probably sell. Because I wasn't advertising it as much. But it is a public list.
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> On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joseph,
> I guess I only heard about it after the other group was terminated…
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 12:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
>  
> Richard, at present we have 276 members. Our group has been around since 
> around 2018.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner > <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> I believe that was the group owned by Michael C (cannot remember how to 
>> spell his last name), which he suddenly removed.
>> I believe he started it up again with a slightly different name on groups.io 
>> <http://groups.io/>
>> A couple other groups popped up almost immediately.
>> TechTalk and Blind Techies.
>>  
>> You can subscribe to them at these addresses:
>> main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io>
>> blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io>
>>  
>> TechTalk has 621 members at this point.  I’m not sure about the 
>> blind-techies one.  I think it is smaller.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>  
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>  
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
>> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard
>> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 11:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
>>  
>> Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
>> there’s a page or other information about the list.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
>>  
>> Hello all,
>> please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
>> people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
>> I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but 
>> all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to 
>> post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
>> Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where 
>> general questions about technology can be posted?
>> I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
>> If you have more info, please write me at:
>> maria.orovcik...@gmail.com <mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com>
>> Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
>> Thanks.
>> Maria
>> 
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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks Joseph,

I guess I only heard about it after the other group was terminated…

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 

Richard, at present we have 276 members. Our group has been around since around 
2018.





On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

I believe that was the group owned by Michael C (cannot remember how to spell 
his last name), which he suddenly removed.

I believe he started it up again with a slightly different name on groups.io 
<http://groups.io/> 

A couple other groups popped up almost immediately.

TechTalk and Blind Techies.

 

You can subscribe to them at these addresses:

 <mailto:main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io> main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io

blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

TechTalk has 621 members at this point.  I’m not sure about the blind-techies 
one.  I think it is smaller.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 

Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 

Hello all,
please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all 
of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a 
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I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
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Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
Thanks.
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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread 'Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone
>
>
> If you guys know of other mailing lists interesting for blind / visually
> impaired people - please let me know about them. Feel free to contact me
> privately if it's too off-topic here. (Please send the subscription link
> directly in the mail - I often still have troubles in finding the correct
> details on the internet myself).

Thank you so much for your help!

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread joseph hudson
Richard, at present we have 276 members. Our group has been around since around 
2018.

> On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe that was the group owned by Michael C (cannot remember how to spell 
> his last name), which he suddenly removed.
> I believe he started it up again with a slightly different name on groups.io 
> <http://groups.io/>
> A couple other groups popped up almost immediately.
> TechTalk and Blind Techies.
>  
> You can subscribe to them at these addresses:
> main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io>
> blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io>
>  
> TechTalk has 621 members at this point.  I’m not sure about the blind-techies 
> one.  I think it is smaller.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
>  
> Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
> there’s a page or other information about the list.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
>  
> Hello all,
> please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
> people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
> I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but 
> all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to 
> post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
> Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where 
> general questions about technology can be posted?
> I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
> If you have more info, please write me at:
> maria.orovcik...@gmail.com <mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com>
> Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
> Thanks.
> Maria
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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread 'Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone
>
>
> Thank you so much for the links. If someone knows about more groups which
> are of interest to blind / visually impaired people feel free to send them
> to me privately or here in the list so that I can subscribe to them AS
> well. Thank you so much!
>

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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread Richard Turner
I believe that was the group owned by Michael C (cannot remember how to spell 
his last name), which he suddenly removed.

I believe he started it up again with a slightly different name on groups.io

A couple other groups popped up almost immediately.

TechTalk and Blind Techies.

 

You can subscribe to them at these addresses:

 <mailto:main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io> main+subscr...@techtalk.groups.io

blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:blind-techies+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

TechTalk has 621 members at this point.  I’m not sure about the blind-techies 
one.  I think it is smaller.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 

Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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Mária Orovcíková
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Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 

Hello all,
please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all 
of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a 
question, it says the group is not available any more.
Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where 
general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
If you have more info, please write me at:
maria.orovcik...@gmail.com <mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com> 
Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
Thanks.
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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread Richard
Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 

Hello all,
please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all 
of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a 
question, it says the group is not available any more.
Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where 
general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
If you have more info, please write me at:
maria.orovcik...@gmail.com <mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com> 
Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
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Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-02 Thread Mária Orovčíková

Hello all,
please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and 
many people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find 
info here.
    I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, 
but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I 
tried to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list 
where general questions about technology can be posted?

I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
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Re: To List Member Alban Hoxha from Moderator Mark

2023-11-12 Thread alban hoxha
i'm sorry.
i send blank mesages, because some email risive on junk folder.

From: VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 12:11:36 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: To List Member Alban Hoxha from Moderator Mark

Alban, your recent posts to the group, do not contain any of your own comments 
rendering your posts, effectively, empty.

I am certain that you do not intend to send empty posts to the group but until 
such time as you discover how to insure that your posts contain comments that 
you wish to contribute to a discussion thread, please refrain from posting to 
the group.

Should you continue to send empty posts to the group, then your posting 
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I will contact you, off-list, regarding this but wanted to first post, on-list, 
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To List Member Alban Hoxha from Moderator Mark

2023-11-12 Thread VIPhone
Alban, your recent posts to the group, do not contain any of your own 
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A Message from Moderator Mark to the Group Regarding Mailing List Distribution Outages

2023-09-24 Thread VIPhone


Hello Everyone,

 

For the past few days, I have noticed that after 6PM (California local 
time) to approximately 6AM, posts to the list, while being visible via the 
Google Group web portal, are not being distributed to email clients.

 

I don’t know why this is happening nor do I know when it will end but if 
you are posting to the list during the time window, listed above, members 
who rely on email clients to read group messages, will not receive your 
posts.

 

So if you sent a message to the list, last night (California local time), 
for example and did not receive a reply, it is because only people who use 
the web portal would have seen your message.  

 

Just so you know, I do not use the web portal to read messages posted to 
the group.

 

If you use a web browser to access group messages, you will not have 
noticed any change in the list behavior.

 

However, if you are like me, and rely on a third-party email client, for 
the foreseeable near future, remember to only post to the group during the 
6AM (California local time) to 6PM window.

 

Hopefully, whatever problem Google is having with its group servers will be 
resolved, soon.

 

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Reordering the list of focuses?

2023-09-24 Thread Gerardo Corripio
I've got several focuses on my IPHone aside from "Do not disturb", one of them 
I use very often titled "Reading" whose goal is when I'm watching or reading 
something, I won't receive notifications, except those from family. I'd like to 
know is there a way to reorganize these, so that when I go to the control 
Center and double-tap on the Focus icon, instead of "Don't Disturb" one, the 
"Reading" one would activate by default? Of course it's no bother swiping up or 
down to get to the "Reading" focus and double-tap it, but if there's a way to 
reorder it so that it can be atop the "Don't Disturb", it'd make my life just a 
tab bit more easier!
Though I've got some apps in which the "Reading" focus automatically activates, 
but with other apps, I activate manually; I've found (maybe it's a setting I 
need to tweek somewhere), that when the app automatically activates the 
"Reading" focus, when the screen locks (I've got it set to lock upon 5 minutes 
of inactivity), the "Reading" focus no longer works when on the lock screen! 
But in those apps in which I manually invoke the focus, even on the locked 
screen, it works beautifully!
Thanks in advance.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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I am trying to see if the list is sending out emails, again. Please Ignore

2023-09-23 Thread M. Taylor
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Another List Test from Moderator Mark

2023-08-13 Thread M. Taylor
I apologize for the test messages but Google recently made changes that 
affect my gMail account and I am trying to work out a workaround.

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Just Testing the List, Please Ignore

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Re: Reminders in iOS 17 Realizes It's The Best Shopping List, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-06-12 Thread Robert Doc Wright

have you looked in the music settings: I ran into a problem there.
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From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 7:19 PM
Subject: Reminders in iOS 17 Realizes It's The Best Shopping List, 9 to 5 
Mac




Friday, June 9, 2023 at 2:01 PM

Reminders in iOS 17 realizes it's the best shopping list

Reminders has been my one true shopping list since it landed on the iPhone
in iOS 5. In iOS 17, the app fully embraces that part of its identity.
Second only to controlling media on HomePod, my main Siri usage over the
years has been adding items to my shopping list. "Hey Siri, add [whatever 
I

need] to the shopping list."

The only hiccup I've ever faced is when Siri started responding by saying 
it

added an item to my "shopping list-list." I changed the list name to just
shopping as a fix. Oh, and I've recently had to tango with Personal 
Requests
and voice identification on the HomePod. Whatever I needed to remember 
when

that happened got forgotten.

I love the simple integration with Siri and having Reminders on every 
Apple
device. Being able to share a shopping list with others can also be 
useful.

More recently, Reminders has added templates support so can always start
with the same list if you haven't shopped in a while. There's also an 
option
to print a shopping list if you prefer digital input and a traditional 
list

in the supermarket.

Reminders learns a new trick specific to shopping lists in iOS 17, iPadOS
17, watchOS 10, and macOS Sonoma.
"Grocery Lists automatically sort items into categories to make shopping
easier," says Apple. "Change how items are grouped, and the list remembers
your preferences."
I wondered how this feature worked before poking around in the app. My 
guess

was that maybe I needed to rename my list from Shopping to Grocery List.
Fortunately, it's a little more clever.

Any list can be considered a grocery list. That's useful if you have lists
for different stores and still want automatic sorting. Reminders now lets
you assign a list type: standard or groceries.
This is done with the three-dot circle button in the top right corner of 
the
list on iPhone and iPad. Tap the Show List Info button from the popover 
menu

to access list type. Mac users can find list type while viewing the list
from View and Show List Info from the menu bar.
Set your list type to grocery, and the rest is magic. Adding common 
grocery

items will automatically categorize them in groups so shopping is made
easier.
Optionally, you can rearrange categories manually in case you want to 
match
the order to match your store. You can also add new categories or switch 
to

a new column layout view that groups categories vertically.

In the first beta release, iOS 17 includes these grocery categories:
beverages; produce; meat; frozen foods; wine, beer, and spirits; breads 
and

cereals; pasta, rice, and beans; dairy, eggs, and cheese; sauces and
condiments; personal care and health; and household items.
By default, Reminders will hide any categories that don't include at least
one item. You can turn that off if you prefer to see each category when
planning your shopping trip.

If Reminders doesn't recognize where an item belongs, it will group it in 
a
category called Other. You can manually drag items out of Other to sort 
them

where they belong. There's also an option to create your own categories.
Just don't expect sorting to work automatically. I tested this by creating 
a
category called art supplies and adding paint brush to the shopping list. 
It

lands in Other but can be sorted to the right list manually.

Categories are synced and supported on each version of the Reminders app.
The only limitation is no column support on Apple Watch, but that's
reasonable.
In my testing, automatic sorting mostly worked as expected. Orange juice
went to beverages, tooth brush went to personal care, and trash bags went 
to

household items. It's the items that don't get sorted that exposes the
feature's limitations. For example, "tooth paste" doesn't get sorted but
"toothpaste" does. AA batteries, candles, and Windex all end up unsorted 
by

default.

Another funny behavior is acetone (fingernail polish remover) ends up on 
the

wine, beer, and spirits list. Take my advice: That's no way to start the
weekend.

All in all, iOS 17 treats Reminders well for folks like me who rely on it
for managing a shopping list. The software is currently in beta and
officially comes out in the fall.

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Reminders in iOS 17 Realizes It's The Best Shopping List, 9 to 5 Mac

2023-06-11 Thread M. Taylor
Friday, June 9, 2023 at 2:01 PM

Reminders in iOS 17 realizes it's the best shopping list
 
Reminders has been my one true shopping list since it landed on the iPhone
in iOS 5. In iOS 17, the app fully embraces that part of its identity.
Second only to controlling media on HomePod, my main Siri usage over the
years has been adding items to my shopping list. "Hey Siri, add [whatever I
need] to the shopping list."

The only hiccup I've ever faced is when Siri started responding by saying it
added an item to my "shopping list-list." I changed the list name to just
shopping as a fix. Oh, and I've recently had to tango with Personal Requests
and voice identification on the HomePod. Whatever I needed to remember when
that happened got forgotten.

I love the simple integration with Siri and having Reminders on every Apple
device. Being able to share a shopping list with others can also be useful.
More recently, Reminders has added templates support so can always start
with the same list if you haven't shopped in a while. There's also an option
to print a shopping list if you prefer digital input and a traditional list
in the supermarket.

Reminders learns a new trick specific to shopping lists in iOS 17, iPadOS
17, watchOS 10, and macOS Sonoma.
"Grocery Lists automatically sort items into categories to make shopping
easier," says Apple. "Change how items are grouped, and the list remembers
your preferences."
I wondered how this feature worked before poking around in the app. My guess
was that maybe I needed to rename my list from Shopping to Grocery List.
Fortunately, it's a little more clever.
 
Any list can be considered a grocery list. That's useful if you have lists
for different stores and still want automatic sorting. Reminders now lets
you assign a list type: standard or groceries.
This is done with the three-dot circle button in the top right corner of the
list on iPhone and iPad. Tap the Show List Info button from the popover menu
to access list type. Mac users can find list type while viewing the list
from View and Show List Info from the menu bar.
Set your list type to grocery, and the rest is magic. Adding common grocery
items will automatically categorize them in groups so shopping is made
easier.
Optionally, you can rearrange categories manually in case you want to match
the order to match your store. You can also add new categories or switch to
a new column layout view that groups categories vertically.

In the first beta release, iOS 17 includes these grocery categories:
beverages; produce; meat; frozen foods; wine, beer, and spirits; breads and
cereals; pasta, rice, and beans; dairy, eggs, and cheese; sauces and
condiments; personal care and health; and household items.
By default, Reminders will hide any categories that don't include at least
one item. You can turn that off if you prefer to see each category when
planning your shopping trip.
 
If Reminders doesn't recognize where an item belongs, it will group it in a
category called Other. You can manually drag items out of Other to sort them
where they belong. There's also an option to create your own categories.
Just don't expect sorting to work automatically. I tested this by creating a
category called art supplies and adding paint brush to the shopping list. It
lands in Other but can be sorted to the right list manually.

Categories are synced and supported on each version of the Reminders app.
The only limitation is no column support on Apple Watch, but that's
reasonable.
In my testing, automatic sorting mostly worked as expected. Orange juice
went to beverages, tooth brush went to personal care, and trash bags went to
household items. It's the items that don't get sorted that exposes the
feature's limitations. For example, "tooth paste" doesn't get sorted but
"toothpaste" does. AA batteries, candles, and Windex all end up unsorted by
default.

Another funny behavior is acetone (fingernail polish remover) ends up on the
wine, beer, and spirits list. Take my advice: That's no way to start the
weekend.

All in all, iOS 17 treats Reminders well for folks like me who rely on it
for managing a shopping list. The software is currently in beta and
officially comes out in the fall.

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/09/ios-17-reminders-groceries/


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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-11 Thread lenron brown
Well the fact that it could be worth nothing in a few years is the
risk I will take by doing this. I am ok with that, It's one of the
things that happens with investing.

On 6/11/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have done well with Apple stock, since I bought it in either 2017 or 2018,
> and the thing that really helped is that it split four to one. So I have
> four times as many shares as I once had, and if it keeps climbing like it is
> now, it will soon reach $204, which is what I paid for that original 50.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 2:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you
> never even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in
> that condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or
> so, not bad.
> The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on
> configuration, so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000
> after 16 years that would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
> Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had
> bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs
> announced the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty
> good investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not
> far behind what you could have made if you still had an unopened original
> iPhone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about
> the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come
> down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on
> buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows
> what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really
> get full emersion.
>
> On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those
>> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>
>> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never
>> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
>> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest
>> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry
>> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>>
>> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost,
>> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit
>> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still
>> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came
>> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the
>> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and
>> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but
>> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was
>> introduced.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>
>> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the
>> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have
>> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the
>> big ones.
>> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.
>> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.
>> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28
>> martin guitar.
>> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery
>> life.
>>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a who

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I have done well with Apple stock, since I bought it in either 2017 or 2018, 
and the thing that really helped is that it split four to one. So I have four 
times as many shares as I once had, and if it keeps climbing like it is now, it 
will soon reach $204, which is what I paid for that original 50. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 2:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing 

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I do think that they will come down like everything else does. Remember, when a 
42 inch TV was about $4,000? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. 
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
>>>> people will not appreciate that message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power 
>>>>> to them!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And just to add this, if you buy one of these first VR headsets for $3,500 they 
may also very well be worth $100 in 15 years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>>> the other stupid he

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. 
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
>>>> people will not appreciat

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread lenron brown
lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash
about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price
will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass
device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a
collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally
am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those headsets
> like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend
> money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't
> tend to project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products
> on others. There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money
> others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and
> battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but
> isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what
> was said about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has
> changed the lives of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price
> has really come down much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't
> changed our lives for the good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone
> thought it was when it was introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I
> have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all,
> bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd
> never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did
> have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll
> stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people
>>>> will not appreciate that message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to
>>>>> them!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>>
>>>>> A

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Empty message

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alban 
hoxha
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:05:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
>>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice
>>>> over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've
>>>> come to love on other apple products

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread Carolyn Arnold
>From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those headsets like 
>crazy, but for me, not happening. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>>> John Ruskin My web site:
>>&

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Same here, Dennis, would not be interested for $300 or even $30. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I have zero interest in this headset 

Sent from my iPhone SE 3

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste 
> of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
> stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
> just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
> headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
> reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
> people will not appreciate that message.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I 
>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the 
>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> Amen to that, Richard!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
>> my house and do the cooking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
>> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using 
>> vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>>   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>>   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
>> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>>   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
>> a cure for cancer.
>> 
>>   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.
>> 
>>   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
>> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>>   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>>   Mark
>> 
>> 
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
>> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
>> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses 
>> so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
>> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>> 
>>   --
>>

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread h.begum99 via VIPhone
I remember I was very unsure as to how we could use the iPhone but now I find 
it really good on the whole but 3500 is very expensive though.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>>> John Ruskin My web site:
>>>> https://ww

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
>>>> John Ruskin My web site:
>>>> https://ww/
>>>> w.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cfece0d78493547459b0e08db695efb6
>>>> 8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638219628907840550%7
>>>> CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Cpi%2FHTNYBfUop4rpe1xr
>>>> J0n%2BmN2utbMuNd9BBt

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-10 Thread alban hoxha


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:05:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
>>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice
>>>> over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've
>>>> come to love on other apple products.  I am excited to see what
>>>> will come abwhen using vision pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>  

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
>>>> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
>>>> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
>>>> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice 
>>>> over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've 
>>>> come to love on other apple products.  I am excited to see what 
>>>> will come abwhen using vision pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the
cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have
them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of
the big ones.  And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the
smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how
good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a
beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery life.  The vision
pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few hours to
even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my
iPhone 13 pro max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a
>>> waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money
>>> for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid
>>> headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried
>>> about these stupid headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more
>>> time worrying about reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually
>>> happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I
>>>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the
>>>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> Amen to that, Richard!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to
>>>> clean my house and do the cooking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
>>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John
>>>> Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over
>>>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love
>>>> on other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen
>>>> using vision pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>>>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>>
>>>>You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>>>>
>>>>Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.
>>>> It's a bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has
>>>> gotten a bit tiresome.
>>>>
>>>>I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up
>>>> with a cure for cancer.
>>>>
>>>>And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as
>>>> ground breaking can already be done on Android.
>>>>
>>>>Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list

Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Stewart McKay

ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.

On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

I have zero interest in this headset

Sent from my iPhone SE 3


On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of 
bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
people will not appreciate that message.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I wouldn't 
shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the resources and 
the interest then I say great and more power to them!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Amen to that, Richard!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com/



   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
pro.


   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
tiresome.

   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a 
cure for cancer.

   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
breaking can already be done on Android.

   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price 
tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.

   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

   Mark


   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening 
so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was 
said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Dennis Long
I have zero interest in this headset 

Sent from my iPhone SE 3

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste 
> of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
> stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
> just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
> headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
> reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
> people will not appreciate that message.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I 
>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the 
>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> Amen to that, Richard!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
>> my house and do the cooking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
>> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using 
>> vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>>   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>>   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
>> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>>   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
>> a cure for cancer.
>> 
>>   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.
>> 
>>   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
>> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>>   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>>   Mark
>> 
>> 
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
>> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
>> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses 
>> so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
>> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>> 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Mary Otten
I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of 
bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
people will not appreciate that message.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I wouldn't 
> shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the resources and 
> the interest then I say great and more power to them!
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> Amen to that, Richard!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
> house and do the cooking.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
>On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
> pro.
> 
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
>Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
>You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
> 
>Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
> tiresome.
> 
>I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
> a cure for cancer.
> 
>And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
> breaking can already be done on Android.
> 
>Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
> 
>Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
> 
>Mark
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
>Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
>I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
> he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
> 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Esther Levegnale
No kidding, right?

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
> my house and do the cooking.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, 
>> and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other 
>> apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
>> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
>> for cancer.  
>> 
>> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.  
>> 
>> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
>> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
>> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was 
>> said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
>> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
>> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
>> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>> 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-09 Thread Julian
Ever since it became possible to do so, I remapped the swipe left and right with two fingers gesture to be the equivalent of turning the rotor to the left or to the right. This works beautifully for me as well as some of my clients. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Another way to think about it is that you just need to place two fingers on the screen with some space between them and have them move in opposite but parallel directions. You don’t need to actually rotate the screen. For example, you could
 place your pointer and ring fingers on the screen just a bit apart and then slide your pointer finger down while sliding your ring finger up. I’m not saying this particular example will work for everyone, and I don’t use it myself, but maybe knowing that you
 don’t actually need a circular rotating motion will help some people with this gesture.
 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark


 
Interesting to hear how different people work the roter. I find it easiest to hold my thumb and pointer finger a couple of inches apart more or less in the mi.le of the phone and then turn the phone holding my two fingers in place.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark


 
We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle fingers. Been doing that for many years now.

 


On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing things. Take care. Esther


 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


 

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl <stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com> wrote:








That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I swipe my two index
 fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It seems pretty easy to me.  


 



 

On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:




Hi, everyone,


 


The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as well.  As I said,
 my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I can turn the rotor very easily.


 


Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


 

On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:







You are quite right, Traci.


 


I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.    I am not a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had an engineering mind.  (smile).


 


Mark


 


 


 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On
 Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark




 


Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for iOs. :)



 




Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut
 would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci










On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:



 





Hi Mark,




I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??




 Take care of yourself.




Peggy Kane. 




 




Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️










On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:





Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, acce

RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Another way to think about it is that you just need to place two fingers on the 
screen with some space between them and have them move in opposite but parallel 
directions. You don’t need to actually rotate the screen. For example, you 
could place your pointer and ring fingers on the screen just a bit apart and 
then slide your pointer finger down while sliding your ring finger up. I’m not 
saying this particular example will work for everyone, and I don’t use it 
myself, but maybe knowing that you don’t actually need a circular rotating 
motion will help some people with this gesture.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Interesting to hear how different people work the roter. I find it easiest to 
hold my thumb and pointer finger a couple of inches apart more or less in the 
mi.le of the phone and then turn the phone holding my two fingers in place.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wendy 
Lin
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

You are quite right, Traci.

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

Mark



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci


On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I wouldn't 
shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the resources and 
the interest then I say great and more power to them!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Amen to that, Richard!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com/



On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a 
cure for cancer.

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
breaking can already be done on Android.

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price 
tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what 
was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-09 Thread Paula Jordan
Interesting to hear how different people work the roter. I find it easiest to 
hold my thumb and pointer finger a couple of inches apart more or less in the 
mi.le of the phone and then turn the phone holding my two fingers in place.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

 

We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.





On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

 

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther 

 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.  

 





On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

Hi, everyone, 

 

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> 
> wrote:

 

You are quite right, Traci.

 

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

 

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

 

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci






On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com <mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

 

Hi Mark,

I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??

 Take care of yourself.

Peggy Kane. 

 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️






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> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Richard Turner
I posted a link in a new thread for those interested in being tempted to spend 
a ton of money for the Vision Pro headset.

Or anyone wanting to know.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

If the Vision Pro headset in fact includes Voiceover and is fully accessible, I 
would say it's certainly appropriate for this list. However, since it won't be 
available for probably close to a year and I don't recall Apple saying anything 
about accessibility during the keynote it is definitely premature. From how 
they describe it I have my doubts regarding full accessibility because this 
sounds like it will be a very visually focused experience where you have to 
look at things to make the headset react and I am not sure how Apple will make 
that fully accessible. Of course they may have already figured it out so who 
knows, but no point in speculating and as others pointed out, at $3,500 US 
which means probably at least $4,500 or $4,800 Canadian this is probably not 
something the majority of blind people will buy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

What has this subject have to do with anything.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

No Kidding, right?

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If the Vision Pro headset in fact includes Voiceover and is fully accessible, I 
would say it's certainly appropriate for this list. However, since it won't be 
available for probably close to a year and I don't recall Apple saying anything 
about accessibility during the keynote it is definitely premature. From how 
they describe it I have my doubts regarding full accessibility because this 
sounds like it will be a very visually focused experience where you have to 
look at things to make the headset react and I am not sure how Apple will make 
that fully accessible. Of course they may have already figured it out so who 
knows, but no point in speculating and as others pointed out, at $3,500 US 
which means probably at least $4,500 or $4,800 Canadian this is probably not 
something the majority of blind people will buy.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

What has this subject have to do with anything.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

No Kidding, right?

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.


Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, 
juanhernande...@gmail.com<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You may want to think first next time you send an email making such remarks, 
not considered very appropriate any more these days and rightly so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Yes I will agree with this and to bring along a hot woman at that price as well 
hee. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.


Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, 
juanhernande...@gmail.com<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Amen to that, Richard! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision 
pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a 
cure for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
breaking can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price 
tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what 
was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so 
he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread llumpkin
What has this subject have to do with anything.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

No Kidding, right?

 

Esther

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On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


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Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Esther Levegnale
No Kidding, right?

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
> my house and do the cooking.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, 
>> and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other 
>> apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
>> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
>> for cancer.  
>> 
>> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.  
>> 
>> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
>> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
>> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was 
>> said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
>> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
>> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
>> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread michv
Yes I will agree with this and to bring along a hot woman at that price as well 
hee. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread Richard Turner
For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.



Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
> all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
> products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
> 
> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
> tiresome.
> 
> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
> for cancer.  
> 
> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
> breaking can already be done on Android.  
> 
> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
> 
> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
> tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-09 Thread juanhernandez98
I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-07 Thread Kelly Pierce
Apple is a different company than what it was 10 years ago or so.
Today, there are eight or nine times the number of active iPhone users
compared to back then.  Apple then was establishing itself as a
company that created technology that no one else did, which included
accessibility. Apple was also establishing the iPhone itself as an
indispensable device.  The company also had fewer devices to discuss
so there was time in the keynote for a 15-minute film on Apple’s
amazing accessibility. Now Apple has established itself as the
accessibility king in the tech world and the trendsetter that everyone
else follows. For example, last year’s iPhone 14 announcement had
minimal detail on the new emergency satellite communication
functionality, the first cell phone to offer this novel feature. With
more than a billion daily iPhone users, there’s a lot of different
kinds of people and needs to address and delight.

Kelly


On 6/7/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I was a bit surprised that they didn't say anything about accessibility,
> just a few weeks ago there was some talk about some major accessibility
> improvements (can't remember what it was), but it sounded big and if that is
> indeed part of iOS 17 I think Apple would have patted themselves on the back
> a bit.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>
> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit
> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit
> tiresome.
>
> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure
> for cancer.
>
> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground
> breaking can already be done on Android.
>
> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year,
> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>
> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>
> Mark
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so
> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was
> said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about
> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he
> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset
> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
>
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-07 Thread Esther Levegnale
pretty cool! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
> 
>  We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
> fingers. Been doing that for many years now.
> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
>>> things. Take care. Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
>>> vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and 
>>> then I swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right 
>>> or left.  It seems pretty easy to me.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite 
>>>> a bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of 
>>>> you as well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I 
>>>> find that I can turn the rotor very easily.
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are quite right, Traci.
>>>>>  
>>>>> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am 
>>>>> not a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I 
>>>>> wish I had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>>>>>  
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Traci Duncan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
>>>>> for iOs. :)
>>>>>  
>>>>> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window 
>>>>> to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the 
>>>>> web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn 
>>>>> the rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to 
>>>>> character, flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super 
>>>>> useful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> Traci
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
>>>>> check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
>>>>> same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>>>>>  Take care of yourself.
>>>>> Peggy Kane. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
>>>>> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
>>>>> devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
>>>>> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into 
>>>>> 

Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-07 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, great idea! There is nothing like the old records. I don't have my 70 
eights anymore but I do have 45s and 33's. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 7, 2023, at 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I find the rotor gesture is much easier if you get an old, cheap turn table 
> you know like for playing vinyl records. Then you put  your iPhone on it, 
> hold two fingers steady on the screen and turn on the turn table.
> You just have to make sure the speed setting is on 33, if it's on 45 let 
> alone on the old 78, the centrifugal force will toss your iPhone across the 
> room.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy 
> Lin
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>  
> We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
> fingers. Been doing that for many years now.
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
>  
> Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
> things. Take care. Esther
>  
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
> vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then 
> I swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left. 
>  It seems pretty easy to me.  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> Hi, everyone,
>  
> The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
> bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
> well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that 
> I can turn the rotor very easily.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 
> You are quite right, Traci.
>  
> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
> huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I 
> had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>  
> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
> iOs. :)
>  
> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
> 
> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
> 
> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
> and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor 
> to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
> letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
> 
> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
> 
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> Hi Mark,
> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
> and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
> message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>  Take care of yourself.
> Peggy Kane. 
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
> devices.
> 
> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
> 
> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
> 
> 
> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
> see introduced next week?
> 
> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
> 
> Moderator Mark
> 
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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I find the rotor gesture is much easier if you get an old, cheap turn table you 
know like for playing vinyl records. Then you put  your iPhone on it, hold two 
fingers steady on the screen and turn on the turn table.
You just have to make sure the speed setting is on 33, if it's on 45 let alone 
on the old 78, the centrifugal force will toss your iPhone across the room.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.



On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

You are quite right, Traci.

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

Mark



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci



On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️



On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I was a bit surprised that they didn't say anything about accessibility, just a 
few weeks ago there was some talk about some major accessibility improvements 
(can't remember what it was), but it sounded big and if that is indeed part of 
iOS 17 I think Apple would have patted themselves on the back a bit.

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You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


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Weitzel
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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I was not because it never is, new iPhones are announced in early September and 
this has been so for many years; I believe maybe the iPhone 3GS or 4 back 
around 2009/2010 was announced in the summer, but ever since 2011 or 2012 it's 
been September.during th

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I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175



On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:

Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol

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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread M. Taylor
You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
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place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-06 Thread Wendy Lin
We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:


That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:


You are quite right, Traci.

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

Mark



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci


On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread Kelly Pierce
I listened live to Leo LA Porte and his group of tech bros comment in
real time and critique the keynote immediately afterward. To avoid
turning the keynote into a marathon Oscars telecast, Apple kept the
keynote to 2 hours and six minutes, with a good chunk reserved for the
vision Pro. The iOS segment seemed truncated and rushed to accommodate
the Vision Pro announcement and to cover major updates for the Mac and
the Apple Watch OS. In the presentation, the only blindness
interesting new feature was a big update to messages. A subsequent
announcement said a cool new feature will extract password
verification codes from messages and mail and put them into the
verification box in an app or website.  Also, interactive widgets,
including live lock screen widgets will be coming in iOS 17, which was
long rumored.  For some reason, Apple could not keep a lid on the
rumors this year so there were few surprises, unlike in other years.
With so many third parties, vendors, and contractors, it is now
virtually impossible to prevent everyone from talking.

Wall Street was hyped up.  The stock popped 1.75 percent to reach a
new record high the morning of the keynote, but fell back as the
Vision Pro was revealed.  The tech bros with Leo LA Porte were
astounded by the price tag and did not believe the technology was as
developed as Apple seemed to show.  No one in the Video actually wore
the vision Pro during the keynote.  The guys thought it was a cool,
nerdy technology without a specific end user purpose. They suggested
the headset will be the next status symbol like the iPhone in the late
2000s.

Kelly



On 6/6/23, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They usually don't announce phones until September.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Mann 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced.
>>
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>     Maybe nobody else did
>>> either? Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening
>>> so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what
>>> was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>>
>>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case
>>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing
>>> addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US
>>> virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024
>>> 
>>>
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-06 Thread Esther Levegnale
Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
> vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then 
> I swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left. 
>  It seems pretty easy to me.  
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi, everyone,
>> 
>> The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
>> bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
>> well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that 
>> I can turn the rotor very easily.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>> 
>>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> You are quite right, Traci.
>>>  
>>> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not 
>>> a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish 
>>> I had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>>>  
>>> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
>>> for iOs. :)
>>>  
>>> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
>>> 
>>> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
>>> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
>>> 
>>> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the 
>>> web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the 
>>> rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, 
>>> flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
>>> 
>>> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
>>> check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
>>> same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>>>  Take care of yourself.
>>> Peggy Kane. 
>>>  
>>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
>>> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
>>> 
>>> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
>>> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
>>> see introduced next week?
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
>>> 
>>> Moderator Mark
>>> 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-06 Thread Barbara Stahl
That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.  


> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> Hi, everyone,
> 
> The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
> bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
> well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that 
> I can turn the rotor very easily.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> You are quite right, Traci.
>>  
>> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not 
>> a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I 
>> had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>>  
>> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
>> for iOs. :)
>>  
>> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
>> 
>> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
>> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
>> 
>> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
>> and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor 
>> to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
>> letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
>> 
>> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Mark,
>> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
>> check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
>> same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>>  Take care of yourself.
>> Peggy Kane. 
>>  
>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
>> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
>> devices.
>> 
>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
>> 
>> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
>> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
>> 
>> 
>> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
>> see introduced next week?
>> 
>> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
>> 
>> Moderator Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-06 Thread Esther Levegnale
Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 
> You are quite right, Traci.
>  
> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
> huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I 
> had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>  
> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
> iOs. :)
>  
> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
> 
> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
> 
> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
> and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor 
> to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
> letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
> 
> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> Hi Mark,
> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
> and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
> message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>  Take care of yourself.
> Peggy Kane. 
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
> devices.
> 
> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
> 
> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
> 
> 
> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
> see introduced next week?
> 
> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
> 
> Moderator Mark
> 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread Richard Turner
They usually don't announce phones until September. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 6, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:    Maybe nobody else did either? Lol  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What is happen to the Viphone list? I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569437B7FBEDEC92B580F2C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread Ryan Mann
I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:    Maybe nobody else did either? Lol  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What is happen to the Viphone list? I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569437B7FBEDEC92B580F2C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-06 Thread Esther Levegnale
you are certainly welcome. Sorry for the lateness of this email 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On May 31, 2023, at 10:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Mark
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> hi, Mark, I think you are doing a fantastic job with the iPhone list. I 
> really enjoyed reading everyone's posts. It was wonderful hearing from you. 
> Thank you so much. Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-06 Thread Star Gazer
Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.

I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

 

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What is happen to the Viphone list?

2023-06-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
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place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-02 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I would like an option in contacts where you single finger flick up or down 
to reach a delete button to remove a contact. the double tap and hold gives 
a lot of options but not as efficient.
- Original Message - 
From: "Øyvind Lode" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark


Hello from Norway.

I would like to see better TTS voices available to VoiceOver.
Both Norwegian and English.
Implement a better solution and documentation for third party
developers to port their TTS engines to iOS and make more high quality
voices available to VoiceOver.
Please also make the NFC chip on Apple devices available to
third-party developers.
Come on, Apple!

Please also fix bugs much faster :-)
Especially VO related bugs that is 

On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 10:22, Robert Doc Wright
 wrote:


chella place the middle of the phone at your nose then move your hand away 
10 inches.


- Original Message -
From: CHELA Robles
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator 
Mark


Hello doing very well loving my iPhone even though face ID is a hit or 
miss but I will get the hang of it eventually. I have the iPhone 14. It’s 
a blue color and it has 256 GB storage configuration with AT I have the 
eSIM instead of a physical Sim.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:



I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option 
to choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE


- Original Message -
From: Traci Duncan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator 
Mark


Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
for iOs. :)


Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window 
to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.


A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the 
web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the 
rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, 
flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.


Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci

On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??

 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into 
folders.



Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like 
to

see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-01 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I will delete a spam or unknown number; otherwise, I never bother with 
deleting, since they automatically delete after 100 numbers. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Sieghard, 

Oh I would love this too.  It drives me nuts I have to keep deleting my own 
calls that I’ve made!  It drives me nuts also when I delete a voice message , I 
have to go to the recent calls, and delete the exact same call, so basically I 
am deleting the same calls two times.  

 

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

 

And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.

My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

 

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE 

- Original Message - 

From: Traci Duncan <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator 
Mark

 

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about 
is for iOs. :) 

 

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages 
window to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on 
the web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the 
rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci

 

On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

Hi Mark,

I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible 
for you to check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have 
received the same message twice so just wondering if I have a double 
subscription??

 Take care of yourself.

Peggy Kane. 

 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

 

On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:

    Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted 
to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is 
doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote 
presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want 
added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage 
content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibilit

RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-01 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I had an LG Revere flip phone about eight years ago, and to the best of my 
memory, it separated incoming from outgoing calls. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.

My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

 

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE 

- Original Message - 

From: Traci Duncan <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator 
Mark

 

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about 
is for iOs. :) 

 

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages 
window to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on 
the web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the 
rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci





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I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible 
for you to check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have 
received the same message twice so just wondering if I have a double 
subscription??

 Take care of yourself.

Peggy Kane. 

 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️





On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted 
to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is 
doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote 
presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want 
added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage 
content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, 
that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to 
reading your replies.

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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Sieghard,

You are absolutely correct regarding the recent call list.

The funny thing is that there are apps on iOS, such as Google Voice and Skype, 
that allow for the functionality as you describe it.

Amazing, eh?

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.
My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after 

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:02 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE 
- Original Message - 
From: mailto:our4p...@gmail.com 
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :) 

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci

On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane. 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-01 Thread Øyvind Lode
Hello from Norway.

I would like to see better TTS voices available to VoiceOver.
Both Norwegian and English.
Implement a better solution and documentation for third party
developers to port their TTS engines to iOS and make more high quality
voices available to VoiceOver.
Please also make the NFC chip on Apple devices available to
third-party developers.
Come on, Apple!

Please also fix bugs much faster :-)
Especially VO related bugs that is 

On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 10:22, Robert Doc Wright
 wrote:
>
> chella place the middle of the phone at your nose then move your hand away 10 
> inches.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: CHELA Robles
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>
> Hello doing very well loving my iPhone even though face ID is a hit or miss 
> but I will get the hang of it eventually. I have the iPhone 14. It’s a blue 
> color and it has 256 GB storage configuration with AT I have the eSIM 
> instead of a physical Sim.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 31, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
>
> 
> I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
> choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Traci Duncan
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>
> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
> iOs. :)
>
> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
>
> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
>
> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
> and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor 
> to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
> letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
>
> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
>
> Take care,
> Traci
>
> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
> and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
> message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>  Take care of yourself.
> Peggy Kane.
>
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>
> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
> devices.
>
> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
>
> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
>
>
> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
> see introduced next week?
>
> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
>
> Moderator Mark
>
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-01 Thread Robert Doc Wright
chella place the middle of the phone at your nose then move your hand away 10 
inches.
  - Original Message - 
  From: CHELA Robles 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark


  Hello doing very well loving my iPhone even though face ID is a hit or miss 
but I will get the hang of it eventually. I have the iPhone 14. It’s a blue 
color and it has 256 GB storage configuration with AT I have the eSIM 
instead of a physical Sim.


  Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


 
I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option 
to choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Traci Duncan 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator 
Mark


  Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
for iOs. :) 


  Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

  A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window 
to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

  A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the 
web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the 
rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

  Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

  Take care,
  Traci



On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane. 


Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


  On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:


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  Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so 
just
  wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their 
Apple
  devices.

  I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

  You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the 
OS is
  the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into 
folders.


  Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would 
like to
  see introduced next week?

  I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your 
replies.

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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sorry, that was supposed to say "14 years", my wireless keyboard is getting old 
or maybe it's just because it's late!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.
My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE
- Original Message -
From: Traci Duncan<mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci

On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-05-31 Thread janet gross
Sieghard,
Oh I would love this too.  It drives me nuts I have to keep deleting my own 
calls that I’ve made!  It drives me nuts also when I delete a voice message , I 
have to go to the recent calls, and delete the exact same call, so basically I 
am deleting the same calls two times.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.
My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE
- Original Message -
From: Traci Duncan<mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci

On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-05-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And I wish 14 hyears after the iPhone 3GS was released the phone app would 
finally get an update so you can filter your Recent calls not just by "All" and 
"Missed", but also by "Incoming" and "Outgoing", maybe even by "Not in my 
Contacts" or "Private/Unknown Numbers" and of course it would have to include a 
search field where you can type part of a numbe ror contact and see only the 
numbers matching say a particular area code. Lastly, once the list has been 
filtered there should be a "Select All" and "Delete" option which would delete 
only the calls currently visible, e.g. say you want to delete all outgoing 
calls or all Missed calls. Right now if even if you tap on the "Missed" tab and 
then tap on Edit" and "Delete Selected", the entire recent call list is deelted.
My old Windows 5.1 smartphone with MobileSpeak back in 2005 or 2006 had this 
functionality and I absolutely can't believe how people would not find it 
useful to have the ability to filter or search their recent call list.after

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE
- Original Message -
From: Traci Duncan<mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci


On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mark,
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I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-05-31 Thread CHELA Robles
Hello doing very well loving my iPhone even though face ID is a hit or miss but I will get the hang of it eventually. I have the iPhone 14. It’s a blue color and it has 256 GB storage configuration with AT I have the eSIM instead of a physical Sim.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 31, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO 
PHONE SETTINGS. An option to choose where the audio from voicemail 
goes.  OPTION WHERE 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Traci Duncan 
  
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To 
  Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
  Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m 
  talking about is for iOs. :)
  
  Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:A VoiceOver 
  gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the 
  composed message. Instead of locating the send button.A VoiceOver 
  gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want 
  something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, 
  flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by 
  letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.Those are two little 
  things off the top of my head. :)Take care,Traci
  
  
On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane. 


Peggy Sent from my i 
phone☺️

On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor 
   wrote:

  Hello Everyone,Seems 
  as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so 
  justwanted to check in with you and see how everyone is 
  doing with their 
  Appledevices.I am 
  looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next 
  week.You know?  The only software 
  feature that I really want added to the OS isthe ability 
  to permanently save and organize iMessage content into 
  folders.Are there any 
  features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like 
  tosee introduced next 
  week?I hope everyone is doing well and I 
  look forward to reading your 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-05-31 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO PHONE SETTINGS. An option to 
choose where the audio from voicemail goes.  OPTION WHERE 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Traci Duncan 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark


  Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)


  Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

  A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

  A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

  Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

  Take care,
  Traci



On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane. 


Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


  On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:


  Hello Everyone,

  Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
  wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
  devices.

  I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

  You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
  the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into 
folders.


  Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like 
to
  see introduced next week?

  I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

  Moderator Mark


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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-05-31 Thread janet gross
Hi Mark!
You are doing a wonderful job with the list, so thank you for that!  I would 
like to see Apple bring back the recent call feature, meaning we use to be able 
to keep 1000 calls in the recent phone App, but now we can only keep 100 before 
they will automatically be deleted.  In my case though, calls are being deleted 
after I save only 10 calls another bug for me!  Although, I've never kept 1000 
calls in my recent phone App.  I get only military time from the clock app, 
another bug!  I need to reset my phone to kill those bugs!  I do wish Apple 
could catch a few more bugs than they do though before they send out the 
updates.  I know they can't catch all of them, but it just seems like more and 
more bugs!  This gives me the creeps!  Smile!

Janet

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Subject: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just 
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple 
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I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is the 
ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to 
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I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

2023-05-31 Thread M. Taylor
Wayne, Wayne, Wayne!  Great ideas.

I love, love, love Braille.  And yet, even after all these years, I cannot use 
Braille Screen Input.  I have tried and tried and tried but, for some reason, I 
cannot seem to wrap my mind around how it works.  Isn’t that something?  I 
guess you can’t teach an old dog new Braille Screen Input tricks, (smile).

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

A couple of things I can think of. First, improvements to Braille Screen Input, 
such as iOS keeping up with my brailling speed. Often I am able to write text 
at a comfortable speed. But there are times when I have to recallobrate the dot 
positions, or switch back and forth between uncontracted and contracted input 
in order to get my text entered correctly. I recall reading something in the 
last few years where Apple said they would address this, but I still find it 
clunky. I would also like to see improvements to focuses, specifically being 
able to enter different start and end times for weekends versus weekdays for Do 
Not Disturb. If this was added and I missed it then great. But the last time I 
looked, I did not see this level of detail. Considering they made enhancements 
in iOS 16 to Focus, I was disappointed when I looked and did not find this in 
Do Not Disturb. That's all I can think of right now. Apple has a great track 
record for accessibility. Unfortunately, they also have a record for 
introducing features which may make a difference for people, and then not doing 
anything else with them. Do Not Disturb being a case in point. One other thing 
I just thought of: the ability to better filter mail in the native iOS app. 
True, there are some filter options, but they barely scratch the surface in my 
opinion. I am able to set detailed filters in Gmail on the web. It seems that 
setting the same level of filters should also be possible in an app. I have 
tried several, including the Gmail app, Outlook, and the native iOS mail app, 
but have not found one that I totally like or that has the level of filtering 
that I'm looking for.

Warm regards, 
Wayne 
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On May 31, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Arnold Schmidt <mailto:als5...@gmail.com> wrote:
One thing I wish they would   do: Now, when I block a number, it blocks both 
calls and texts. There is a certain number that both calls and texts to let me 
know about my next day's transportation. I only want a text, not both. They 
don't seem willing to fix it, I know it can be done. So, I wish Apple would 
give me the option to block calls, texts, or both. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

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You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
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