RE: Losing Speech When Making a Call
I have four sets of earbuds, would not be without them. One is in my purse, so, like they used to say about American Express, "don't leave home without it." -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Losing Speech When Making a Call Especially if I have to make a longer call or know I have to make multiple calls I very much prefer to use the good old wired Apple Earpods. You can hear well, you can use Voiceover and don't have to worry about the phone switching between speakerphone and earpiece. Also, if you use a headset like that, switchingt calls if somebody else calls you is as simple as pressing the middle button of the in-line remote which is Play/Pause and Answer/Hang-Up for a call. You just have to be quick if you ask the first caller to hold and you press the remote to talk to the second caller and then you are done and want to switch back to the first caller. If the second caller hangs up before you the call may have already switched back automatically and then pressing the button will also hang up on the first caller. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 7:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Losing Speech When Making a Call Thanks Sieghard, that was it. I was able to duplicate the behavior during a call. I made the call holding the phone in front of me and I did not lose Voiceover. But when I held the phone close to my ear, I lost it. Then, when I moved the phone away from my ear, Voiceover returned. I just started using my phone's cellular function on Friday, so I'm still learning. Thanks very much. Evan On 3/27/2023 12:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > When you say you move your finger all over the screen, do you do this when > you are holding the phone close to your ear? > If so the answer is relatively simple. The iPhone has a so-called proximity > sensor which is right by the earpiece and when you hold the phone to your > ear it locks the screen because otherwise you would potentially activate > buttons on the screen with your ear or other parts of your face which touch > the phone. > If you take the iPhone away from your ear the screen becomes usable and since > most blind users find it easier, by default the call switches to > speakerphone. A sighted person would actually have to touch the speakerphone > button and if you don't want this to happen, then you can turn this feature > off in Voiceover Settings. > You might want to try and make a call with the Apple Earpods or a Bluetooth > headset if you have one and you will find that you can use the screen and > hear Voiceover no problem. > If Voiceove rvolume is not loud enough, you can turn the rotor to > volume and flick up to raise Voiceover volume > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Evan Reese > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 1:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Losing Speech When Making a Call > > Hello, > > I got a new iPhone 12 on Monday, and just got cell service set up on Friday. > I've had an iPad Mini for some years, so I'm familiar with iOS, but there's > quite a bit I still have to learn about the phone part of it. > > I'm having a bit of a problem. It seems that when I make a call, I hear > Voiceover say the number in the little speaker by my ear, then speech > disappears. I move my finger all over the screen and I hear nothing from > Voiceover. So I can't hang up a call, or pick a number from a menu, or do > anything at all. When the person I've called hangs up, speech comes back > right away. > > A friend of mine says that she's having the same problem. But another friend > of mine says that he isn't. So he thinks that perhaps there's some setting > that we changed that might be affecting speech when a call is made. > > Anybody seen this behavior and got any ideas as to how to fix it? > > Thanks much. > > Evan > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr
RE: Losing Speech When Making a Call
Especially if I have to make a longer call or know I have to make multiple calls I very much prefer to use the good old wired Apple Earpods. You can hear well, you can use Voiceover and don't have to worry about the phone switching between speakerphone and earpiece. Also, if you use a headset like that, switchingt calls if somebody else calls you is as simple as pressing the middle button of the in-line remote which is Play/Pause and Answer/Hang-Up for a call. You just have to be quick if you ask the first caller to hold and you press the remote to talk to the second caller and then you are done and want to switch back to the first caller. If the second caller hangs up before you the call may have already switched back automatically and then pressing the button will also hang up on the first caller. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 7:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Losing Speech When Making a Call Thanks Sieghard, that was it. I was able to duplicate the behavior during a call. I made the call holding the phone in front of me and I did not lose Voiceover. But when I held the phone close to my ear, I lost it. Then, when I moved the phone away from my ear, Voiceover returned. I just started using my phone's cellular function on Friday, so I'm still learning. Thanks very much. Evan On 3/27/2023 12:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > When you say you move your finger all over the screen, do you do this when > you are holding the phone close to your ear? > If so the answer is relatively simple. The iPhone has a so-called proximity > sensor which is right by the earpiece and when you hold the phone to your > ear it locks the screen because otherwise you would potentially activate > buttons on the screen with your ear or other parts of your face which touch > the phone. > If you take the iPhone away from your ear the screen becomes usable and since > most blind users find it easier, by default the call switches to > speakerphone. A sighted person would actually have to touch the speakerphone > button and if you don't want this to happen, then you can turn this feature > off in Voiceover Settings. > You might want to try and make a call with the Apple Earpods or a Bluetooth > headset if you have one and you will find that you can use the screen and > hear Voiceover no problem. > If Voiceove rvolume is not loud enough, you can turn the rotor to > volume and flick up to raise Voiceover volume > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Evan Reese > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 1:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Losing Speech When Making a Call > > Hello, > > I got a new iPhone 12 on Monday, and just got cell service set up on Friday. > I've had an iPad Mini for some years, so I'm familiar with iOS, but there's > quite a bit I still have to learn about the phone part of it. > > I'm having a bit of a problem. It seems that when I make a call, I hear > Voiceover say the number in the little speaker by my ear, then speech > disappears. I move my finger all over the screen and I hear nothing from > Voiceover. So I can't hang up a call, or pick a number from a menu, or do > anything at all. When the person I've called hangs up, speech comes back > right away. > > A friend of mine says that she's having the same problem. But another friend > of mine says that he isn't. So he thinks that perhaps there's some setting > that we changed that might be affecting speech when a call is made. > > Anybody seen this behavior and got any ideas as to how to fix it? > > Thanks much. > > Evan > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f377bc23-0da7-5e3c-a066-c23768d2fb31%40dslextreme.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you ha
Re: Losing Speech When Making a Call
Thanks Sieghard, that was it. I was able to duplicate the behavior during a call. I made the call holding the phone in front of me and I did not lose Voiceover. But when I held the phone close to my ear, I lost it. Then, when I moved the phone away from my ear, Voiceover returned. I just started using my phone's cellular function on Friday, so I'm still learning. Thanks very much. Evan On 3/27/2023 12:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: When you say you move your finger all over the screen, do you do this when you are holding the phone close to your ear? If so the answer is relatively simple. The iPhone has a so-called proximity sensor which is right by the earpiece and when you hold the phone to your ear it locks the screen because otherwise you would potentially activate buttons on the screen with your ear or other parts of your face which touch the phone. If you take the iPhone away from your ear the screen becomes usable and since most blind users find it easier, by default the call switches to speakerphone. A sighted person would actually have to touch the speakerphone button and if you don't want this to happen, then you can turn this feature off in Voiceover Settings. You might want to try and make a call with the Apple Earpods or a Bluetooth headset if you have one and you will find that you can use the screen and hear Voiceover no problem. If Voiceove rvolume is not loud enough, you can turn the rotor to volume and flick up to raise Voiceover volume -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 1:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Losing Speech When Making a Call Hello, I got a new iPhone 12 on Monday, and just got cell service set up on Friday. I've had an iPad Mini for some years, so I'm familiar with iOS, but there's quite a bit I still have to learn about the phone part of it. I'm having a bit of a problem. It seems that when I make a call, I hear Voiceover say the number in the little speaker by my ear, then speech disappears. I move my finger all over the screen and I hear nothing from Voiceover. So I can't hang up a call, or pick a number from a menu, or do anything at all. When the person I've called hangs up, speech comes back right away. A friend of mine says that she's having the same problem. But another friend of mine says that he isn't. So he thinks that perhaps there's some setting that we changed that might be affecting speech when a call is made. Anybody seen this behavior and got any ideas as to how to fix it? Thanks much. Evan -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f377bc23-0da7-5e3c-a066-c23768d2fb31%40dslextreme.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8634d6d9-7c88-caab-c4a3-7767507275b2%40dslextreme.com.
RE: Losing Speech When Making a Call
When you say you move your finger all over the screen, do you do this when you are holding the phone close to your ear? If so the answer is relatively simple. The iPhone has a so-called proximity sensor which is right by the earpiece and when you hold the phone to your ear it locks the screen because otherwise you would potentially activate buttons on the screen with your ear or other parts of your face which touch the phone. If you take the iPhone away from your ear the screen becomes usable and since most blind users find it easier, by default the call switches to speakerphone. A sighted person would actually have to touch the speakerphone button and if you don't want this to happen, then you can turn this feature off in Voiceover Settings. You might want to try and make a call with the Apple Earpods or a Bluetooth headset if you have one and you will find that you can use the screen and hear Voiceover no problem. If Voiceove rvolume is not loud enough, you can turn the rotor to volume and flick up to raise Voiceover volume -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 1:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Losing Speech When Making a Call Hello, I got a new iPhone 12 on Monday, and just got cell service set up on Friday. I've had an iPad Mini for some years, so I'm familiar with iOS, but there's quite a bit I still have to learn about the phone part of it. I'm having a bit of a problem. It seems that when I make a call, I hear Voiceover say the number in the little speaker by my ear, then speech disappears. I move my finger all over the screen and I hear nothing from Voiceover. So I can't hang up a call, or pick a number from a menu, or do anything at all. When the person I've called hangs up, speech comes back right away. A friend of mine says that she's having the same problem. But another friend of mine says that he isn't. So he thinks that perhaps there's some setting that we changed that might be affecting speech when a call is made. Anybody seen this behavior and got any ideas as to how to fix it? Thanks much. Evan -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f377bc23-0da7-5e3c-a066-c23768d2fb31%40dslextreme.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656E7734307A505EA118A5EC78B9%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
Losing Speech When Making a Call
Hello, I got a new iPhone 12 on Monday, and just got cell service set up on Friday. I've had an iPad Mini for some years, so I'm familiar with iOS, but there's quite a bit I still have to learn about the phone part of it. I'm having a bit of a problem. It seems that when I make a call, I hear Voiceover say the number in the little speaker by my ear, then speech disappears. I move my finger all over the screen and I hear nothing from Voiceover. So I can't hang up a call, or pick a number from a menu, or do anything at all. When the person I've called hangs up, speech comes back right away. A friend of mine says that she's having the same problem. But another friend of mine says that he isn't. So he thinks that perhaps there's some setting that we changed that might be affecting speech when a call is made. Anybody seen this behavior and got any ideas as to how to fix it? Thanks much. Evan -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f377bc23-0da7-5e3c-a066-c23768d2fb31%40dslextreme.com.
