Re: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
I experience this exact same thing but I assumed it was a bug. I find it annoying and I just deal with it because I don't know how to fix it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2024, at 3:47 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi,This situation has been around for years and I don’t know what to do about it. I’m running the native Mail app on an iPhone 12 Pro with the latest IOS. I have Mail set up so that messages are threaded, which is particularly useful on high-traffic mailing lists when I want to temporarily ignore or trash a group of messages that don’t interest me. Though this doesn’t happen consistently, when I open a brand-new thread, VoiceOver will say that I’m in message 1 then immediately jump to message 2. I then have to use the rotor to get to Messages and swipe back to message 1. Does anybody else experience this and if so how did you solve it?Thanks in advance. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01ec01dac0f7%247eeae7b0%247cc0b710%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7AE430EC-FFA6-4342-B6E9-35FA2CE4EE97%40icloud.com.
Re: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
Hi Tom, I thought we were probably using different approaches. I'll give yours a try the next time I think about it but I'll confess to staying stuck in a routine once I find one that works for me. Thanks for the clarification. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2024, at 5:26 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Alan,You wrote: I'm also using the native Mail app on the latest version of iOS but I'm not following your question. You mention a new thread which I'm assuming is one in your inbox containing multiple messages. Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. But you don't say anything about expanding the thread which is what I first do. After I expand the thread, I swipe down to the first message and let VoiceOver speak the message without actually opening the message which I only do if the message is too long to be spoken by my preview setting. I don’t have previews turned on. Also, I never expand the thread and swipe down to the first message as you described. I just double-tap on the thread and, it it’s a brand-new thread, I assume that I’ll land in message 1, read it and go on from there. Perhaps I should start using your method. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01dac0fc%24f8aaddd0%24ea009970%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45C15C26-1D87-47B5-8979-25F27034A80F%40gmail.com.
RE: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
I often use Alan’s method. But I also use your method and don’t have the issue of focus jumping off message 1, etc. However, the expand thread message then treats each email as a separate email so if you want to reply and not quote all the messages, the one you reply to will be the one quoted below yours… Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lang...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 2:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads Hi Alan, You wrote: I'm also using the native Mail app on the latest version of iOS but I'm not following your question. You mention a new thread which I'm assuming is one in your inbox containing multiple messages. Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. But you don't say anything about expanding the thread which is what I first do. After I expand the thread, I swipe down to the first message and let VoiceOver speak the message without actually opening the message which I only do if the message is too long to be spoken by my preview setting. I don’t have previews turned on. Also, I never expand the thread and swipe down to the first message as you described. I just double-tap on the thread and, it it’s a brand-new thread, I assume that I’ll land in message 1, read it and go on from there. Perhaps I should start using your method. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01dac0fc%24f8aaddd0%24ea009970%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01dac0fc%24f8aaddd0%24ea009970%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004101dac0fe%2450302690%24f09073b0%24%40comcast.net.
RE: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
Hi Alan, You wrote: I'm also using the native Mail app on the latest version of iOS but I'm not following your question. You mention a new thread which I'm assuming is one in your inbox containing multiple messages. Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. But you don't say anything about expanding the thread which is what I first do. After I expand the thread, I swipe down to the first message and let VoiceOver speak the message without actually opening the message which I only do if the message is too long to be spoken by my preview setting. I don’t have previews turned on. Also, I never expand the thread and swipe down to the first message as you described. I just double-tap on the thread and, it it’s a brand-new thread, I assume that I’ll land in message 1, read it and go on from there. Perhaps I should start using your method. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01dac0fc%24f8aaddd0%24ea009970%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
I've not seen that on my 13 pro. I'm on iOS 17.5.1. I know that was happening a few versions back for many people, but I'm not sure which iOS that was. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:06 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:Hi Tom, I'm also using the native Mail app on the latest version of iOS but I'm not following your question. You mention a new thread which I'm assuming is one in your inbox containing multiple messages. But you don't say anything about expanding the thread which is what I first do. After I expand the thread, I swipe down to the first message and let VoiceOver speak the message without actually opening the message which I only do if the message is too long to be spoken by my preview setting. This doesn't seem to be the method you're using based on the information you provided. Perhaps you can give more details. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2024, at 4:47 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi,This situation has been around for years and I don’t know what to do about it. I’m running the native Mail app on an iPhone 12 Pro with the latest IOS. I have Mail set up so that messages are threaded, which is particularly useful on high-traffic mailing lists when I want to temporarily ignore or trash a group of messages that don’t interest me. Though this doesn’t happen consistently, when I open a brand-new thread, VoiceOver will say that I’m in message 1 then immediately jump to message 2. I then have to use the rotor to get to Messages and swipe back to message 1. Does anybody else experience this and if so how did you solve it?Thanks in advance. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01ec01dac0f7%247eeae7b0%247cc0b710%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/511E6D95-B859-43C4-9A60-568D750B593C%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/196ABDF9-E081-4127-8E80-2383ED1EB560%40comcast.net.
Re: Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
Hi Tom, I'm also using the native Mail app on the latest version of iOS but I'm not following your question. You mention a new thread which I'm assuming is one in your inbox containing multiple messages. But you don't say anything about expanding the thread which is what I first do. After I expand the thread, I swipe down to the first message and let VoiceOver speak the message without actually opening the message which I only do if the message is too long to be spoken by my preview setting. This doesn't seem to be the method you're using based on the information you provided. Perhaps you can give more details. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 17, 2024, at 4:47 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi,This situation has been around for years and I don’t know what to do about it. I’m running the native Mail app on an iPhone 12 Pro with the latest IOS. I have Mail set up so that messages are threaded, which is particularly useful on high-traffic mailing lists when I want to temporarily ignore or trash a group of messages that don’t interest me. Though this doesn’t happen consistently, when I open a brand-new thread, VoiceOver will say that I’m in message 1 then immediately jump to message 2. I then have to use the rotor to get to Messages and swipe back to message 1. Does anybody else experience this and if so how did you solve it?Thanks in advance. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01ec01dac0f7%247eeae7b0%247cc0b710%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/511E6D95-B859-43C4-9A60-568D750B593C%40gmail.com.
Mail Annoyance with Message Threads
Hi, This situation has been around for years and I don't know what to do about it. I'm running the native Mail app on an iPhone 12 Pro with the latest IOS. I have Mail set up so that messages are threaded, which is particularly useful on high-traffic mailing lists when I want to temporarily ignore or trash a group of messages that don't interest me. Though this doesn't happen consistently, when I open a brand-new thread, VoiceOver will say that I'm in message 1 then immediately jump to message 2. I then have to use the rotor to get to Messages and swipe back to message 1. Does anybody else experience this and if so how did you solve it? Thanks in advance. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01ec01dac0f7%247eeae7b0%247cc0b710%24%40gmail.com.
