RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-17 Thread Rose Combs 
I notice that the lines often seem almost too close.  Probably a feed problem 
with the embosser.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Speaking of books that come with a braille display, I've got to mention that 
the user's manual for my Bluetooth 40 from FS has got to be the poorest quality 
I've ever seen!  I don't know what was used to produce it, but the letters are 
run together, almost like a dot was used in both of two letters that are side 
by side, like the braille cells were squeezed together so that it looks like 
there are 3 columns of dots in a single cell.  For example, picture an I N G 
with an L to it's right.  It almost looks like a number sign.  It is almost to 
the point of being unreadable.


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From: Rose Combs <mailto:roseco...@q.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:48 PM

Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Thank you, I finally found the commands in the iPhone book I have, I just have 
to get used to using them, as a typist for years, I read braille well but 
sometimes have to really think about writing it.  I will get there, however.  

 

 

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Brett
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Hi,

You can either use dot 7 or a D chord. Both of these actors are backspace.

 

Cheers, 

Brett. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 17 Jan 2015, at 12:41 pm, Rose Combs  wrote:

Well I have a new Focus 14 Blue, my Christmas present, decided with job ending 
in mid-March if I wanted it I’d better do it while I can.  

 

So far, I managed to get it connected to the phone, other things are coming 
slowly, finding trying to write either nothing shows up or it is full of errors 
and cannot find backspace command but then it just arrived yesterday and I have 
not had much time to play.  The braille cells are great and it plugs in, the 
Refresh-A-Brail plug drove me crazy and the lack of thumb keys drove me crazy, 
I’d sell it but no way to ship right now.  

 

No, not the Focus, that one is MINE!  

I will get it figured out.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy Harris
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Thank you so much Charles and Gina!  That did the trick.  I need to make sure 
my screen is locked, turn on my BP12T, unlock my screen, and it pairs pretty 
much immediately.  I reverse the steps to unpair/power off my BP12T, and, when 
I do that, it doesn’t dump me into help when I unlock my screen again.  This 
helps a ton!

 

If anyone knows the answer re the Notes app, and if there is any way I can stop 
the BraillePen from showing me HTML code in my notes, which don’t have links by 
the way.  They’re just notes like, “Pick up milk on the way home.”  (Well, not 
exactly, but there’s no bold print, or anything else fancy.  

 

I have two more questions.  First, does anyone know of a braille command to 
lock/unlock your iDevice with a braille keyboard?  I fully understand that this 
may not be at all possible, but I was thinking of a situation where I might 
have my BraillePen out, but my iPhone in my purse.  It would be great if I 
could use a keyboard command to lock/unlock the iDevice in such a situation.

 

Also, is there some way to leave the VoiceOver hints turned on as far as 
speaking them is concerned, but to set it so that the hints are not displayed 
on the braille display, even if VO speaks the hints aloud?

 

Thanks again everyone!  I’m really grateful for all the help, and I’m having a 
blast learning something new. *GRIN*

 

Amy

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Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-17 Thread Charles Rivard 
Speaking of books that come with a braille display, I've got to mention that 
the user's manual for my Bluetooth 40 from FS has got to be the poorest quality 
I've ever seen!  I don't know what was used to produce it, but the letters are 
run together, almost like a dot was used in both of two letters that are side 
by side, like the braille cells were squeezed together so that it looks like 
there are 3 columns of dots in a single cell.  For example, picture an I N G 
with an L to it's right.  It almost looks like a number sign.  It is almost to 
the point of being unreadable.

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you! really! are! finished!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:48 PM
  Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.


  Thank you, I finally found the commands in the iPhone book I have, I just 
have to get used to using them, as a typist for years, I read braille well but 
sometimes have to really think about writing it.  I will get there, however.  

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 7:07 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

   

  Hi,

  You can either use dot 7 or a D chord. Both of these actors are backspace.

   

  Cheers, 

  Brett. 

  Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


  On 17 Jan 2015, at 12:41 pm, Rose Combs  wrote:

Well I have a new Focus 14 Blue, my Christmas present, decided with job 
ending in mid-March if I wanted it I’d better do it while I can.  

 

So far, I managed to get it connected to the phone, other things are coming 
slowly, finding trying to write either nothing shows up or it is full of errors 
and cannot find backspace command but then it just arrived yesterday and I have 
not had much time to play.  The braille cells are great and it plugs in, the 
Refresh-A-Brail plug drove me crazy and the lack of thumb keys drove me crazy, 
I’d sell it but no way to ship right now.  

 

No, not the Focus, that one is MINE!  

I will get it figured out.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Amy Harris
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Thank you so much Charles and Gina!  That did the trick.  I need to make 
sure my screen is locked, turn on my BP12T, unlock my screen, and it pairs 
pretty much immediately.  I reverse the steps to unpair/power off my BP12T, 
and, when I do that, it doesn’t dump me into help when I unlock my screen 
again.  This helps a ton!

 

If anyone knows the answer re the Notes app, and if there is any way I can 
stop the BraillePen from showing me HTML code in my notes, which don’t have 
links by the way.  They’re just notes like, “Pick up milk on the way home.”  
(Well, not exactly, but there’s no bold print, or anything else fancy.  

 

I have two more questions.  First, does anyone know of a braille command to 
lock/unlock your iDevice with a braille keyboard?  I fully understand that this 
may not be at all possible, but I was thinking of a situation where I might 
have my BraillePen out, but my iPhone in my purse.  It would be great if I 
could use a keyboard command to lock/unlock the iDevice in such a situation.

 

Also, is there some way to leave the VoiceOver hints turned on as far as 
speaking them is concerned, but to set it so that the hints are not displayed 
on the braille display, even if VO speaks the hints aloud?

 

Thanks again everyone!  I’m really grateful for all the help, and I’m 
having a blast learning something new. *GRIN*

 

Amy

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RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-17 Thread Rose Combs 
Thank you, I finally found the commands in the iPhone book I have, I just have 
to get used to using them, as a typist for years, I read braille well but 
sometimes have to really think about writing it.  I will get there, however.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Hi,

You can either use dot 7 or a D chord. Both of these actors are backspace.

 

Cheers, 

Brett. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 17 Jan 2015, at 12:41 pm, Rose Combs  wrote:

Well I have a new Focus 14 Blue, my Christmas present, decided with job ending 
in mid-March if I wanted it I’d better do it while I can.  

 

So far, I managed to get it connected to the phone, other things are coming 
slowly, finding trying to write either nothing shows up or it is full of errors 
and cannot find backspace command but then it just arrived yesterday and I have 
not had much time to play.  The braille cells are great and it plugs in, the 
Refresh-A-Brail plug drove me crazy and the lack of thumb keys drove me crazy, 
I’d sell it but no way to ship right now.  

 

No, not the Focus, that one is MINE!  

I will get it figured out.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy Harris
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Thank you so much Charles and Gina!  That did the trick.  I need to make sure 
my screen is locked, turn on my BP12T, unlock my screen, and it pairs pretty 
much immediately.  I reverse the steps to unpair/power off my BP12T, and, when 
I do that, it doesn’t dump me into help when I unlock my screen again.  This 
helps a ton!

 

If anyone knows the answer re the Notes app, and if there is any way I can stop 
the BraillePen from showing me HTML code in my notes, which don’t have links by 
the way.  They’re just notes like, “Pick up milk on the way home.”  (Well, not 
exactly, but there’s no bold print, or anything else fancy.  

 

I have two more questions.  First, does anyone know of a braille command to 
lock/unlock your iDevice with a braille keyboard?  I fully understand that this 
may not be at all possible, but I was thinking of a situation where I might 
have my BraillePen out, but my iPhone in my purse.  It would be great if I 
could use a keyboard command to lock/unlock the iDevice in such a situation.

 

Also, is there some way to leave the VoiceOver hints turned on as far as 
speaking them is concerned, but to set it so that the hints are not displayed 
on the braille display, even if VO speaks the hints aloud?

 

Thanks again everyone!  I’m really grateful for all the help, and I’m having a 
blast learning something new. *GRIN*

 

Amy

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Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-16 Thread Brett 
Hi,
You can either use dot 7 or a D chord. Both of these actors are backspace.

Cheers, 
Brett. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 17 Jan 2015, at 12:41 pm, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> Well I have a new Focus 14 Blue, my Christmas present, decided with job 
> ending in mid-March if I wanted it I’d better do it while I can. 
>  
> So far, I managed to get it connected to the phone, other things are coming 
> slowly, finding trying to write either nothing shows up or it is full of 
> errors and cannot find backspace command but then it just arrived yesterday 
> and I have not had much time to play.  The braille cells are great and it 
> plugs in, the Refresh-A-Brail plug drove me crazy and the lack of thumb keys 
> drove me crazy, I’d sell it but no way to ship right now. 
>  
> No, not the Focus, that one is MINE! 
> I will get it figured out. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Amy Harris
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 6:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.
>  
> Thank you so much Charles and Gina!  That did the trick.  I need to make sure 
> my screen is locked, turn on my BP12T, unlock my screen, and it pairs pretty 
> much immediately.  I reverse the steps to unpair/power off my BP12T, and, 
> when I do that, it doesn’t dump me into help when I unlock my screen again.  
> This helps a ton!
>  
> If anyone knows the answer re the Notes app, and if there is any way I can 
> stop the BraillePen from showing me HTML code in my notes, which don’t have 
> links by the way.  They’re just notes like, “Pick up milk on the way home.”  
> (Well, not exactly, but there’s no bold print, or anything else fancy. 
>  
> I have two more questions.  First, does anyone know of a braille command to 
> lock/unlock your iDevice with a braille keyboard?  I fully understand that 
> this may not be at all possible, but I was thinking of a situation where I 
> might have my BraillePen out, but my iPhone in my purse.  It would be great 
> if I could use a keyboard command to lock/unlock the iDevice in such a 
> situation.
>  
> Also, is there some way to leave the VoiceOver hints turned on as far as 
> speaking them is concerned, but to set it so that the hints are not displayed 
> on the braille display, even if VO speaks the hints aloud?
>  
> Thanks again everyone!  I’m really grateful for all the help, and I’m having 
> a blast learning something new. *GRIN*
>  
> Amy
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RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-16 Thread Rose Combs 
Well I have a new Focus 14 Blue, my Christmas present, decided with job ending 
in mid-March if I wanted it I’d better do it while I can.  

 

So far, I managed to get it connected to the phone, other things are coming 
slowly, finding trying to write either nothing shows up or it is full of errors 
and cannot find backspace command but then it just arrived yesterday and I have 
not had much time to play.  The braille cells are great and it plugs in, the 
Refresh-A-Brail plug drove me crazy and the lack of thumb keys drove me crazy, 
I’d sell it but no way to ship right now.  

 

No, not the Focus, that one is MINE!  

I will get it figured out.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy Harris
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

 

Thank you so much Charles and Gina!  That did the trick.  I need to make sure 
my screen is locked, turn on my BP12T, unlock my screen, and it pairs pretty 
much immediately.  I reverse the steps to unpair/power off my BP12T, and, when 
I do that, it doesn’t dump me into help when I unlock my screen again.  This 
helps a ton!

 

If anyone knows the answer re the Notes app, and if there is any way I can stop 
the BraillePen from showing me HTML code in my notes, which don’t have links by 
the way.  They’re just notes like, “Pick up milk on the way home.”  (Well, not 
exactly, but there’s no bold print, or anything else fancy.  

 

I have two more questions.  First, does anyone know of a braille command to 
lock/unlock your iDevice with a braille keyboard?  I fully understand that this 
may not be at all possible, but I was thinking of a situation where I might 
have my BraillePen out, but my iPhone in my purse.  It would be great if I 
could use a keyboard command to lock/unlock the iDevice in such a situation.

 

Also, is there some way to leave the VoiceOver hints turned on as far as 
speaking them is concerned, but to set it so that the hints are not displayed 
on the braille display, even if VO speaks the hints aloud?

 

Thanks again everyone!  I’m really grateful for all the help, and I’m having a 
blast learning something new. *GRIN*

 

Amy

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RE: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-16 Thread Amy Harris 
Thank you so much Charles and Gina!  That did the trick.  I need to make sure 
my screen is locked, turn on my BP12T, unlock my screen, and it pairs pretty 
much immediately.  I reverse the steps to unpair/power off my BP12T, and, when 
I do that, it doesn’t dump me into help when I unlock my screen again.  This 
helps a ton!

 

If anyone knows the answer re the Notes app, and if there is any way I can stop 
the BraillePen from showing me HTML code in my notes, which don’t have links by 
the way.  They’re just notes like, “Pick up milk on the way home.”  (Well, not 
exactly, but there’s no bold print, or anything else fancy.  

 

I have two more questions.  First, does anyone know of a braille command to 
lock/unlock your iDevice with a braille keyboard?  I fully understand that this 
may not be at all possible, but I was thinking of a situation where I might 
have my BraillePen out, but my iPhone in my purse.  It would be great if I 
could use a keyboard command to lock/unlock the iDevice in such a situation.

 

Also, is there some way to leave the VoiceOver hints turned on as far as 
speaking them is concerned, but to set it so that the hints are not displayed 
on the braille display, even if VO speaks the hints aloud?

 

Thanks again everyone!  I’m really grateful for all the help, and I’m having a 
blast learning something new. *GRIN*

 

Amy

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Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-16 Thread Georgina Joyce 
Hello,

Yes, with the Braille Pen this is true. If you turn on the pen then unlock the 
phone it will pair automatically. As for going to help mode. This happens here 
too. I haven’t found a way of turning off. I can’t remember if pressing the 
power button to lock the phone enables you to turn off the Pen without going 
into help. I haven’t used the Pen for a while. But will check a routine if 
required. But it sounds as if you’ve got it as good as it will get.

HTH

Gena
> On 16 Jan 2015, at 22:28, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this applies to your braille display, but I know that I have to 
> turn the Bluetooth 40 that I have on, then turn the iPhone 5 on.  When the 
> phone activates, it will be connected to, and be communicating with the 
> braille display.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Amy Harris  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> I just received, earlier this week, a Harpo BraillePen 12 Touch, and, 
>> although I've been using iDevices since IOS 4, and braille for most of my 
>> life, this is my first time with a braille display, and I have a few 
>> questions.
>> 
>> I got my device paired with no problem.  However, when I have my iPhone 6+ 
>> running the latest IOS 8 version turned on, and I then turn on my BP12T, 
>> they find each other but they don't pair.  I have to go into the settings 
>> and double-tap the device under Braille in order to get it to pair.  I don't 
>> have to enter the pairing code, but I do have to manually pair it every 
>> time.  Any ideas on what I've messed up?
>> 
>> Also, when I'm finished using the BP12T, if I use the Chord K to turn it 
>> off, my device automatically enters VO Help, and I have to 4-finger 
>> double-tap to get out of it every time.  My device turns off, but, as soon 
>> as it does, I'm dumped into VO Help.  If I turn my device back on while in 
>> VO Help, it doesn't pair, and I have to exit VO help and go into Settings as 
>> mentioned above to tell the keyboard to connect.
>> 
>> Finally, I was trying to "practice" by reading some of my notes in the 
>> default Notes app.  Everything works, but the HTML code is turned on, and I 
>> have to hunt through all of that to find the text of my note.  When I go 
>> into Messages, and read text messages, that's not the case.  In the Messages 
>> app I get text without all of the HTML code regarding font/font size, etc. 
>> that I receive when trying to read a note in the Notes app.  Any thoughts on 
>> that one?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for helping a newbie in working with a braille 
>> keyboard/display in IOS get started!
>> 
>> Amy
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Re: Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-16 Thread Charles Rivard 
Not sure if this applies to your braille display, but I know that I have to 
turn the Bluetooth 40 that I have on, then turn the iPhone 5 on.  When the 
phone activates, it will be connected to, and be communicating with the braille 
display.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Amy Harris  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I just received, earlier this week, a Harpo BraillePen 12 Touch, and, 
> although I've been using iDevices since IOS 4, and braille for most of my 
> life, this is my first time with a braille display, and I have a few 
> questions.
> 
> I got my device paired with no problem.  However, when I have my iPhone 6+ 
> running the latest IOS 8 version turned on, and I then turn on my BP12T, they 
> find each other but they don't pair.  I have to go into the settings and 
> double-tap the device under Braille in order to get it to pair.  I don't have 
> to enter the pairing code, but I do have to manually pair it every time.  Any 
> ideas on what I've messed up?
> 
> Also, when I'm finished using the BP12T, if I use the Chord K to turn it off, 
> my device automatically enters VO Help, and I have to 4-finger double-tap to 
> get out of it every time.  My device turns off, but, as soon as it does, I'm 
> dumped into VO Help.  If I turn my device back on while in VO Help, it 
> doesn't pair, and I have to exit VO help and go into Settings as mentioned 
> above to tell the keyboard to connect.
> 
> Finally, I was trying to "practice" by reading some of my notes in the 
> default Notes app.  Everything works, but the HTML code is turned on, and I 
> have to hunt through all of that to find the text of my note.  When I go into 
> Messages, and read text messages, that's not the case.  In the Messages app I 
> get text without all of the HTML code regarding font/font size, etc. that I 
> receive when trying to read a note in the Notes app.  Any thoughts on that 
> one?
> 
> Thanks in advance for helping a newbie in working with a braille 
> keyboard/display in IOS get started!
> 
> Amy
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Questions from a new braille display user.

2015-01-16 Thread Amy Harris 
Hi everyone.

I just received, earlier this week, a Harpo BraillePen 12 Touch, and, 
although I've been using iDevices since IOS 4, and braille for most of my 
life, this is my first time with a braille display, and I have a few 
questions.

I got my device paired with no problem.  However, when I have my iPhone 6+ 
running the latest IOS 8 version turned on, and I then turn on my BP12T, 
they find each other but they don't pair.  I have to go into the settings 
and double-tap the device under Braille in order to get it to pair.  I 
don't have to enter the pairing code, but I do have to manually pair it 
every time.  Any ideas on what I've messed up?

Also, when I'm finished using the BP12T, if I use the Chord K to turn it 
off, my device automatically enters VO Help, and I have to 4-finger 
double-tap to get out of it every time.  My device turns off, but, as soon 
as it does, I'm dumped into VO Help.  If I turn my device back on while in 
VO Help, it doesn't pair, and I have to exit VO help and go into Settings 
as mentioned above to tell the keyboard to connect.

Finally, I was trying to "practice" by reading some of my notes in the 
default Notes app.  Everything works, but the HTML code is turned on, and I 
have to hunt through all of that to find the text of my note.  When I go 
into Messages, and read text messages, that's not the case.  In the 
Messages app I get text without all of the HTML code regarding font/font 
size, etc. that I receive when trying to read a note in the Notes app.  Any 
thoughts on that one?

Thanks in advance for helping a newbie in working with a braille 
keyboard/display in IOS get started!

Amy

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