Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Richard, thanks for this. You learn something new all the time. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Les, yes, that is indeed the normal gesture, unless you also have the > VoiceOVer Zoom feature on where it changes because the three finger triple > tap is reserved for activating Zoom if it is turned on in settings. > > I discovered that early on when I was teaching the use of the iPhone/iPad... > > > Richard > > > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les > Kriegler > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 11:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off > > Hi Richard, > > Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and > off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of > these. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> Do they also use Zoom? >> If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a >> triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. >> Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe >> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster >> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget >> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's >> too late." >> >> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to >> Paul) >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >>>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: >>> >>> Hi Fanus, >>> >>> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You >>> could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover >>> practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect >>> the gesture. >>> >>> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by >>> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once >>> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. >>> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose >>> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use >>> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap >>> area is pretty far down the screen. >>> >>> I hope that helps! >>> >>> Take care and stay safe! >>> >>> Debby >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Fanus Buys >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off >>> >>> Hello list >>> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three >>> finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I >>> can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not >>> help. Is there an alternative? >>> Regards >>> Fanus >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6255
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Except when,, as he wrote, Zoom is on. On 12/04/2022 19:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Richard, Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of these. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Do they also use Zoom? If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. Richard "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late." Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to Paul) My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: Hi Fanus, I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap area is pretty far down the screen. I hope that helps! Take care and stay safe! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off Hello list A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit
RE: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Les, yes, that is indeed the normal gesture, unless you also have the VoiceOVer Zoom feature on where it changes because the three finger triple tap is reserved for activating Zoom if it is turned on in settings. I discovered that early on when I was teaching the use of the iPhone/iPad... Richard My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 11:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off Hi Richard, Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of these. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Do they also use Zoom? > If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a > triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. > Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. > > > > Richard > "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe > nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and > faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a > precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too > late." > > Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to > Paul) > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: >> >> Hi Fanus, >> >> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could >> go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. >> Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. >> >> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by >> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once >> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. >> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose >> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use >> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap >> area is pretty far down the screen. >> >> I hope that helps! >> >> Take care and stay safe! >> >> Debby >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus >> Buys >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off >> >> Hello list >> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger >> tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not >> find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is >> there an alternative? >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for th
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Hi Richard, Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of these. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Do they also use Zoom? > If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a > triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. > Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. > > > > Richard > "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe > nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and > faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a > precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too > late." > > Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to > Paul) > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: >> >> Hi Fanus, >> >> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could >> go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. >> Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. >> >> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by >> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once >> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. >> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose >> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use >> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap >> area is pretty far down the screen. >> >> I hope that helps! >> >> Take care and stay safe! >> >> Debby >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus >> Buys >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off >> >> Hello list >> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger >> tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not >> find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is >> there an alternative? >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Do they also use Zoom? If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. Richard "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late." Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to Paul) My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: > > Hi Fanus, > > I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could > go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. > Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. > > If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by > going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once > on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. > Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose the > one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use will > be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap area is > pretty far down the screen. > > I hope that helps! > > Take care and stay safe! > > Debby > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus > Buys > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off > > Hello list > A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger > tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not > find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is > there an alternative? > Regards > Fanus > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8E0BC591-C3DF-4CF5-90B1-342F84644EA4%40comcast.net.
RE: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Hi Fanus, I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap area is pretty far down the screen. I hope that helps! Take care and stay safe! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off Hello list A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net.
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Use a Bluetooth keyboard and press control-option-shift-f11. > On Apr 12, 2022, at 8:40 AM, Fanus Buys wrote: > > Hello list > A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger > tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not > find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is > there an alternative? > Regards > Fanus > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DED84DF0-803E-435E-A751-A90346809D40%40gmail.com.
