Richard, thanks for this. You learn something new all the time.

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> On Apr 12, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Les, yes, that is indeed the normal gesture, unless you also have the 
> VoiceOVer Zoom feature on where it changes because the three finger triple 
> tap is reserved for activating Zoom if it is turned on in settings.
> 
> I discovered that early on when I was teaching the use of the iPhone/iPad...
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 11:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and 
> off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of 
> these.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do they also use Zoom?
>> If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a 
>> triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off.
>> Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
>> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster 
>> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget 
>> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's 
>> too late."
>> 
>> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
>> Paul)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby <dm-h...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Fanus,
>>> 
>>> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You 
>>> could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover 
>>> practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect 
>>> the gesture. 
>>> 
>>> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by 
>>> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once 
>>> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. 
>>> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose 
>>> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use 
>>> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap 
>>> area is pretty far down the screen.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps! 
>>> 
>>> Take care and stay safe!
>>> 
>>> Debby
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Fanus Buys
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
>>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three 
>>> finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I 
>>> can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not 
>>> help. Is there an alternative?
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>> 
>>> 
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