RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
It has been doing this forever in Enhanced Samantha as well, at least I am pretty sure it did this in iOS 11 and iOS 12. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 1:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue To add to this interesting discussion, I've found that for quite a while now, Compact Samantha pronounces the word defeat as defeeturing. Of course, it didn't do it in this email--go figure. She's also saying GPS as geepees, which is quite annoying. Also, Siri British English (when using Siri--I haven't tested this with VO and the British female Siri voice) says PVTA as an actual word, rather than just the letters P V T A. That stands for Pioneer Valley Transit Authority, which is the name of the company that handles public transportation in my area. Thanks, Ari On Nov 10, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Well Kelby, No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of. I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue. When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in which book. I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there. On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Good fine Alan. That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue. I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of. I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing them differently. I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store. Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US English, no to the power of. So, it is only with US voices. I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kelby and Richard, I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the place to start is with Apple. The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who knows. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6ea907a1b38a43ece2ee08d766390a1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090267478513856=NGHBvtwKiAr9vLOqRwt54gudwjMUa7ytJ090zTWlkAA%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems in the future releases of iOS. Have anyone tried to contact the make
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
gt;>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kelby and Richard, >>>>> >>>>> I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on >>>>> an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the >>>>> power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the >>>>> phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the >>>>> capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that >>>>> pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but >>>>> to the power of 1 also works. >>>>> >>>>> Alan Lemly >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of kelby carlson >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >>>>> >>>>> The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is >>>>> pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of >>>>> quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just >>>>> in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, >>>>> however. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if >>>>> there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I >>>>> think the place to start is with Apple. >>>>> The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, >>>>> so who knows. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> Live long and prosper >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>>> Cris Ali >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >>>>> >>>>> Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, >>>>> I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these >>>>> problems in the future releases of iOS. >>>>> Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such >>>>> matters? Just curious. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Cris >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>>> Debby >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >>>>> >>>>> I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I >>>>> am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. >>>>> >>>>> For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as >>>>> resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in >>>>> the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on >>>>> the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the >>>>> regular. >>>>> >>>>> Very strange! >>>>> >>>>> Debby >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >>>>> >>>>> OK, good to know. >>>>> Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? >>>>> >>>>> I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British >>>>> female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice i
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
I've not ever heard the issue with defeat with any voice, until I read back that sentence with Tom Enhanced. If you read the word by itself, it pronounces it correctly, but in a sentence it said defeeturing. Very stupid. GPS seems to be a new thing with various voices so I think it came with iOS 13. You can go into the VoiceOver Speech, Pronunciations and add it in with the substitution G P S, and make sure it is set to all voices. That fixed it for me; but it shouldn't have said it that way to begin with of course. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 25, 2019, at 1:54 PM, "englishride...@gmail.com" wrote: To add to this interesting discussion, I've found that for quite a while now, Compact Samantha pronounces the word defeat as defeeturing. Of course, it didn't do it in this email--go figure. She's also saying GPS as geepees, which is quite annoying. Also, Siri British English (when using Siri--I haven't tested this with VO and the British female Siri voice) says PVTA as an actual word, rather than just the letters P V T A. That stands for Pioneer Valley Transit Authority, which is the name of the company that handles public transportation in my area. Thanks, Ari On Nov 10, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Well Kelby, No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of. I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue. When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in which book. I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there. On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Good fine Alan. That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue. I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of. I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing them differently. I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store. Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US English, no to the power of. So, it is only with US voices. I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby and Richard, I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the place to start is with Apple. The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who knows. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C948e5a5a23d64bd0e06508d771f21c7a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637103156978733306=SSVlu06bnJXprkcLRCYbEl%2FRDajwk%2F1cBcAHME3ARVA%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pron
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
To add to this interesting discussion, I've found that for quite a while now, Compact Samantha pronounces the word defeat as defeeturing. Of course, it didn't do it in this email--go figure. She's also saying GPS as geepees, which is quite annoying. Also, Siri British English (when using Siri--I haven't tested this with VO and the British female Siri voice) says PVTA as an actual word, rather than just the letters P V T A. That stands for Pioneer Valley Transit Authority, which is the name of the company that handles public transportation in my area. Thanks, Ari > On Nov 10, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Well Kelby, > No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of. > I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue. > When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in > which book. > I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > >>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson wrote: >>> >> >> Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain >> em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there. >> >>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good fine Alan. >>> That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue. >>> I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of. >>> I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing >>> them differently. >>> >>> >>> I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did >>> not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store. >>> Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US >>> English, no to the power of. >>> So, it is only with US voices. >>> I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well. >>> >>> Richard >>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>> it." >>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane >>> Wagner >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Kelby and Richard, >>>> >>>> I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on >>>> an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the >>>> power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the >>>> phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the >>>> capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that >>>> pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to >>>> the power of 1 also works. >>>> >>>> Alan Lemly >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of kelby carlson >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >>>> >>>> The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is >>>> pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of >>>> quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just >>>> in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, >>>> however. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if >>>> there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I >>>> think the place to start is with Apple. >>>> The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so >>>> who knows. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Live long and prosper >>>> >>>> >>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
Well Kelby, No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of. I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue. When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in which book. I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there. On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Good fine Alan. That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue. I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of. I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing them differently. I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store. Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US English, no to the power of. So, it is only with US voices. I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby and Richard, I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the place to start is with Apple. The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who knows. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6ea907a1b38a43ece2ee08d766390a1f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090267478513856=NGHBvtwKiAr9vLOqRwt54gudwjMUa7ytJ090zTWlkAA%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems in the future releases of iOS. Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? Just curious. Regards, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happen
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there. > On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > Good fine Alan. > That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue. > I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of. > I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing > them differently. > > > I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did > not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store. > Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US > English, no to the power of. > So, it is only with US voices. > I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well. > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > >>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>> >> >> Kelby and Richard, >> >> I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an >> iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power >> of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. >> However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the >> capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that >> pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to >> the power of 1 also works. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of kelby carlson >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >> >> The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is >> pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of >> quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in >> VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> >> It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if >> there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I >> think the place to start is with Apple. >> The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so >> who knows. >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> Live long and prosper >> >> >> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris >> Ali >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >> >> Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I >> wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these >> problems in the future releases of iOS. >> Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? >> Just curious. >> >> Regards, >> >> Cris >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >> >> I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am >> reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. >> >> For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like >> what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the >> word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It >> wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. >> >> Very strange! >> >> Debby >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >> >> OK, good to know. >> Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? >> >> I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British >> female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? >> >> >> >> Richard &g
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Good fine Alan. That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue. I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of. I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing them differently. I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store. Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US English, no to the power of. So, it is only with US voices. I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby and Richard, I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the place to start is with Apple. The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who knows. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8ecbdfaeafb140c0c70308d766277b2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090192059920610=BXr%2BNIZ1gHImHpVER1uFGr5LLxXIHrB93UDwvlXGiuk%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems in the future releases of iOS. Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? Just curious. Regards, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8ecbdfaeafb140c0c70308d766277b2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090192059920610=BXr%2BNIZ1gHImHpVER1uFGr5LLxXIHrB93UDwvlXGiuk%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird
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Kelby and Richard, I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner wrote: It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the place to start is with Apple. The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who knows. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems in the future releases of iOS. Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? Just curious. Regards, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfbd8de92559046bb36d808d76617f899%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090125451484327=9HJbk4yDi6mw6JDzpLk5AW5kQpE5BY2FYe62WidVqLU%3D=0> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfbd8de92559046bb36d808d76617f899%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090125451494338=%2FUtQKape5fPrsfUI13oQbKkAvM2Tt4%2BiWyVClAePw1U%3D=0> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS
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The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however. > On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if > there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think > the place to start is with Apple. > The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so > who knows. > > > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris > Ali > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I > wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these > problems in the future releases of iOS. > Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? > Just curious. > > Regards, > > Cris > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am > reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. > > For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like > what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the > word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It > wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. > > Very strange! > > Debby > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > OK, good to know. > Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? > > I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British > female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? > > > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby > carlson > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > Richard, > > Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain > punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to > VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. > > > On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. > It is anywhere using US English voices. > I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is > pronounced g u n. > > This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby > carlson > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully > Winston can get to the bottom of it. > > > On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > > Kelby, > > I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream > Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out > what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those > words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the > problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the > absence of the offending punctuation in that section. > > Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. > > Alan Lemly > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > kelby carlson > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover
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It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the place to start is with Apple. The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who knows. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems in the future releases of iOS. Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? Just curious. Regards, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfbd8de92559046bb36d808d76617f899%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090125451484327=9HJbk4yDi6mw6JDzpLk5AW5kQpE5BY2FYe62WidVqLU%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfbd8de92559046bb36d808d76617f899%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090125451494338=%2FUtQKape5fPrsfUI13oQbKkAvM2Tt4%2BiWyVClAePw1U%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you
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Richard, I can confirm I'm getting the same results for the pronunciation of gun that you just described. I wasn't in Voice Dream when Samantha enhanced spelled g u n for its pronunciation on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.2.2. Alan From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ce62d34ea86b0470248a308d76610937d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090093682571516=RoXtlQd8l0V9CAinXlKF78JzuGQs2PomItMyIGOkI2A%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%2540gmail.com=02%7C01%7C%7Ce62d34ea86b0470248a308d76610937d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090093682581530=atV1NoRMDWLULOKr1UOFG%2Bz%2Fxmqj6eHBx2m84vmsTD4%3D=0> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http:/
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Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer? So, I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these problems in the future releases of iOS. Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such matters? Just curious. Regards, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6b89b95991324f51a58408d766135aba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090105618724645=mJaXiJSCyxbEAow%2B%2F9KrwluOtEAIIRI1yigS5gcSstI%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as
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I think this pronunciation thing has to do with what voice you are using because using the Alex voice I am not having nearly as many problems as you guys are. Gun is pronounced correctly and object is being pronounced correctly. I have a little problem with this months but it is not really that consistent and I don’t use the date that much. Gail Sent from Gail’s iPhone > On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > Also, the word Object is being pronounced like what lawyers do during a trial, rather than like pointing at an object. This is also new in iOS 13.2.x. I’ve written Apple Accessibility, but received no reply. Perhaps everyone should write them about these odd pronunciation changes. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel
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Also, the word Object is being pronounced like what lawyers do during a trial, rather than like pointing at an object. This is also new in iOS 13.2.x. I’ve written Apple Accessibility, but received no reply. Perhaps everyone should write them about these odd pronunciation changes. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca529556c66f848501a6008d76615497e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090113920218035=7AGOZ7nfTlK8BTUTAk2l3WkjRP7UuQ%2BZfe%2FX4UOHl%2BE%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca529556c66f848501a6008d76615497e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090113920238051=KaBy1XtGRbC69mCNmHw0cIYTEzgynBLk03bEL%2B4T5l8%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started wit
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I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n. For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume is pronounced as resume—like what you do to find a job. It does it in notes, too. Also in the games the word exposed is pronounced as ex-posed with the emphasis on the “ex.” It wasn’t like this before 13.2. I am using Samantha the regular. Very strange! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6b89b95991324f51a58408d766135aba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090105618724645=mJaXiJSCyxbEAow%2B%2F9KrwluOtEAIIRI1yigS5gcSstI%3D=0> www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6b89b95991324f51a58408d766135aba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090105618734662=
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I can confirm that the offending intrusion of the phrase to the power off is also present when reading certain books and easy dolphin reader. I understand it indicates an asterisk or a sign that indicates a footnote or an end note. It doesn’t happen with fiction books which do not likely have such symbols Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:22 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > Richard, > > Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain > punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to > VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. > >> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> >> For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. >> It is anywhere using US English voices. >> I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is >> pronounced g u n. >> >> This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. >> >> Richard >> >> Live long and prosper >> >> >> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby >> carlson >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >> >> It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully >> Winston can get to the bottom of it. >> >> >> On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> >> Kelby, >> >> I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream >> Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure >> out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since >> those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice >> Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been >> due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. >> >> Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of kelby carlson >> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue >> >> Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces >> certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain >> types of quotation marks and hyphens. >> >> >> >> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the >> VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English >> voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. >> I just did that and now gun is said correctly. >> This for sure started with iOS 13. >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane >> Wagner >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: >> >> Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three >> separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. >> -- >> The following information is important for all m
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OK, good to know. Any particular book where that punctuation weirdness happens? I almost always use Amy from Ivona with Voice Dream, which is the British female voice, so maybe this too is an American English voice issue? Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6b89b95991324f51a58408d766135aba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090105618724645=mJaXiJSCyxbEAow%2B%2F9KrwluOtEAIIRI1yigS5gcSstI%3D=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6b89b95991324f51a58408d766135aba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090105618734662=O1hk1ShdYcljNib5YlpI3JFDbhxPyygx0ePAmXyeUoY%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visi
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Richard, Yes, that one is for Voiceover generally. The other one, where certain punctuation is pronounced "to the power of" appears to be exclusive to VoiceDream. I haven't tried a non-iOS voice to see what happens yet.. > On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. > It is anywhere using US English voices. > I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is > pronounced g u n. > > This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby > carlson > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully > Winston can get to the bottom of it. > > > On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > > Kelby, > > I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream > Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out > what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those > words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the > problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the > absence of the offending punctuation in that section. > > Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. > > Alan Lemly > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > kelby carlson > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain > punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of > quotation marks and hyphens. > > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the > VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English > voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. > I just did that and now gun is said correctly. > This for sure started with iOS 13. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate > letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view
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For me, the issue with the word gun, is not isolated to Voice Dream Reader. It is anywhere using US English voices. I just tested it in the Notes app using Tom Enhanced and the word gun is pronounced g u n. This was on my Work phone running iOS 13.2.2. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ce62d34ea86b0470248a308d76610937d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090093682571516=RoXtlQd8l0V9CAinXlKF78JzuGQs2PomItMyIGOkI2A%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%2540gmail.com=02%7C01%7C%7Ce62d34ea86b0470248a308d76610937d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637090093682581530=atV1NoRMDWLULOKr1UOFG%2Bz%2Fxmqj6eHBx2m84vmsTD4%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40goo
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It does appear only to happen in VoiceDream and not other apps. Hopefully Winston can get to the bottom of it. > On Nov 9, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > > Kelby, > > I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream > Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out > what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those > words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the > problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the > absence of the offending punctuation in that section. > > Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. > > Alan Lemly > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > kelby carlson > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain > punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of > quotation marks and hyphens. > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the > VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English > voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. > I just did that and now gun is said correctly. > This for sure started with iOS 13. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate > letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group a
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Kelby, I got that to the power of when reading a Bookshare book with Voice Dream Reader using Samantha enhanced under iOS 13.2. I was never able to figure out what text was causing the "to the power of" words to be spoken since those words weren't present. When I switched to another voice in voice Dream, the problem seemed not nearly as bad although that might have been due to the absence of the offending punctuation in that section. Thanks for identifying the source of the strange pronunciation. Alan Lemly From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A9FA7D0C-1EC2-4CB9-B341-F3F5BCE016D5%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A9FA7D0C-1EC2-4CB9-B341-F3F5BCE016D5%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
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It seems like it is only occurring in VoiceDream so I lep Winston know. > On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:00 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > I haven’t yet had punctuation spoken that way. > I wonder if it is when the source used “smart quotes” or “Smart Punctuation” > which are the pretty graphical punctuation marks that screw up most screen > readers. > I always turn those off in Word on my computer and in Keyboard settings on my > Apple devices. > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby > carlson > Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 8:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue > > Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain > punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of > quotation marks and hyphens. > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the > VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English > voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. > I just did that and now gun is said correctly. > This for sure started with iOS 13. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > > On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: > > Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate > letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A9FA7D0C-1EC2-4CB9-B341-F
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I haven’t yet had punctuation spoken that way. I wonder if it is when the source used “smart quotes” or “Smart Punctuation” which are the pretty graphical punctuation marks that screw up most screen readers. I always turn those off in Word on my computer and in Keyboard settings on my Apple devices. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 8:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C43a80c706dfc484a220f08d765351373%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637089150935325063=sq3gftqp0ZonlwV2ya4PJTmYeOlGva%2F3rffvqH9iKew%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%2540MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C43a80c706dfc484a220f08d765351373%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637089150935335062=cHBd3%2B4bCD3vTRl%2BTH5lkBhzrV9iT%2BnDC%2Ff78oplH6c%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be search
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
Thanks. Are you having the issue where Voiceover sometimes pronounces certain punctuation as "to the power of"? It seems to happen with certain types of quotation marks and hyphens. > On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the > VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English > voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. > I just did that and now gun is said correctly. > This for sure started with iOS 13. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > >>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: >>> >> Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three >> separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A9FA7D0C-1EC2-4CB9-B341-F3F5BCE016D5%40gmail.com.
Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
Yes. The fix until someone gets their act together, is to go into the VoiceOver Speech, pronunciations and add gun, the word, which US English voices say g u n, and enter the substitution gunn, which has two n's. I just did that and now gun is said correctly. This for sure started with iOS 13. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, kelby carlson wrote: Is anyone else noticing VO pronouncing the word gun as g-u"N, three separate letters? Very very weird, and not sure how to fix it. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/741694C4-D73C-4978-9C4C-478BBA569676%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB190148DA6B1B19FB96739451B77A0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
