RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Sieghard



Running which IOS version on your phone?

Cheers,

Simon F


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Hello,

I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.
I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.
Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just did 
this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my chest 
just near my chin you can hear the difference.
Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos and 
I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the demo 
claims it will.Apparently

Enjoy,
Sieghard

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RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Sieghard Weitzel]

iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta

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Hi Sieghard



Running which IOS version on your phone?

Cheers,

Simon F


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Hello,

I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.
I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.
Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just did 
this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my chest 
just near my chin you can hear the difference.
Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos and 
I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the demo 
claims it will.Apparently

Enjoy,
Sieghard

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Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds.


Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom


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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
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iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta



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Hi Sieghard







Running which IOS version on your phone?



Cheers,



Simon F





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Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm
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Hello,



I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.

I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.

Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just did 
this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my chest 
just near my chin you can hear the difference.

Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos and 
I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the demo 
claims it will.Apparently



Enjoy,

Sieghard



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RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Noe Villeda]

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

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Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

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iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta

 

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Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi Sieghard

 

 

 

Running which IOS version on your phone?

 

Cheers,

 

Simon F

 

 

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Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.

I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.

Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just did 
this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my chest 
just near my chin you can hear the difference.

Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos and 
I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the demo 
claims it will.Apparently 

 

Enjoy,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Mary Otten]

If you have downloaded albums or songs, and now you want them lossless, you 
must re-download them in that format. Streaming is no big deal. But in order to 
get them lossless download it to your phone, you have to redo it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> 
> I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
> something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, 
> shouldn’t it also play using the new dolby surround sound?
>  
> I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
> at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
> to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.
>  
> I’d appreciate any advice.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Lange
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hi,
> also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
> regular Apple earbuds. 
>  
>  
> Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom
>  
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hi Sieghard
>  
>  
>  
> Running which IOS version on your phone?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Simon F
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and 
> if everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification 
> from the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.
> I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
> automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
> the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
> to Always On.
> Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
> listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
> Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
> and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
> Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just 
> did this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my 
> chest just near my chin you can hear the difference.
> Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> and I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the 
> demo claims it will.Apparently
>  
> Enjoy,
> Sieghard
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Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Ian Harrison]

I have it in the UK.
Ian

> On 18 Jun 2021, at 04:41, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and 
> if everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification 
> from the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.
> I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
> automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
> the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
> to Always On.
> Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
> listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
> Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
> and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
> Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just 
> did this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in landscape mode on my 
> chest just near my chin you can hear the difference.
> Of course only some music has been recorded or remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> and I guess we'll see if it will really revolutionize music as the guy in the 
> demo claims it will.Apparently
>  
> Enjoy,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

I’d appreciate any advice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hi,
also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds.


Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hi Sieghard







Running which IOS version on your phone?



Cheers,



Simon F





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello,



I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.

I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.

Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Stereo 
and Dolby Atmos (also called spacial audio) for the Marvin Gaye song What's 
Going On. I must admit it did sound pretty impressive and even when I just did 
this without a headset and with my iPhone lying in 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi Sieghard

 

 

 

Running which IOS version on your phone?

 

Cheers,

 

Simon F

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this morning that Apple's spacial audio was now available.

I was informed that with certain headsets from Apple the feature would be 
automatically turned on, but you can also go into Settings > Music and under 
the Audio heading look for the Dolby Atmos entry and change it from Automatic 
to Always On.

Once I did this I plugged in my somewhat high-end V-Mota wired headset and 
listened to some of the demos Apple has available in the Music app under the 
Browse tab. One of them was demonstrating the difference between Mono, Ster

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Arnold Schmidt]

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.
 
And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
 
Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?
 
I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.
 
I’d appreciate any advice.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
Hi,
also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 
 
 
Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom
 
 
Get Outlook for iOS
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
Hi Sieghard
 
 
 
Running which IOS version on your phone?
 
Cheers,
 
Simon F
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021 3:41 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
Hello,
 
I am not entirely sure if this is rolling out to certain countries only and if 
everybody is getting this at the same time, but I received a notification from 
the Music app this mo

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arnold

Thanks for your info. I got confused, so now, after having listened to the 
podcast by David Woodbridge, I realize that the Beats Flex is a Bluetooth 
headphone and the "wired" to which David refers is the wire between the two ear 
pieces. As you say, the beats flex is fairly cheap so if the batteries also 
will last for two years it is a good choice.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spac

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

I’d appreciate any advice.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hi,
also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds.


Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hi Sieghard







Running which IOS version on your phone?



Cheers,



Simon F





From

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arnold

I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?

Regards

Fanus

 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 1

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new dolby surround sound?

 

I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.

 

I’d appreciate any advice.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hi,

also liked what I heard of the Dolby Atmos demos, even though I was using 
regular Apple earbuds. 

 

 

Also, the lossless format is available, too, which sounds much better. Tom

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:30:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

iOS 14.6, I have not installed any iOS 15 beta

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!

I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> say about the tech specs.
>  
> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Sieghard and list
> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
> sure if they really know the specs.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
> format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
> using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an 
> example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>  
> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>  
> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be 
> adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set 
> of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
> detail page for easy discovery.
> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, 
> and mix engineers to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include 
> doubling the number of Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering 
> educational programs, and providing resources to independent artists.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
> something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, 
> shouldn’t it also play using the new dolby surround sound?
>  
> I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
> at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
> to experiment.  I am u

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Keep in mind that Dolby
Atmos or spacial audio as they also call it does not require Apple headphones 
with the H1 chip at all. I don't know if there is a drawback when you say that
Dolby
Atmos should be always on insrtead of automatic, but if you turn it to Alwahys 
on you hear the music which is available in the Dolby
Atmos format using any old (or new) headset. Keep in mind that while some of 
the high-end Bluetooth headsets sound very good, a wired headset will still 
sound better. I would not be surprised if in a tru test the finding would be 
that you can get a wired headset which sounds as good as those $300 to $600 
Bluetooth headsets so many people now buy for a lot less. But to each their own.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

Now I am a bit confused. From the article which you quoted it seems that the H1 
or W1 chip is indeed required. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Keep in mind that Dolby 

Atmos or spacial audio as they also call it does not require Apple headphones 
with the H1 chip at all. I don't know if there is a drawback when you say that 
Dolby 
Atmos should be always on insrtead of automatic, but if you turn it to Alwahys 
on you hear the music which is available in the Dolby 
Atmos format using any old (or new) headset. Keep in mind that while some of 
the high-end Bluetooth headsets sound very good, a wired headset will still 
sound better. I would not be surprised if in a tru test the finding would be 
that you can get a wired headset which sounds as good as those $300 to $600 
Bluetooth headsets so many people now buy for a lot less. But to each their own.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello ED
Which headphones are you using?
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 3:56 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello All,

I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!

I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> say about the tech specs.
>  
> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Sieghard and list
> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
> sure if they really know the specs.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
> format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
> using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an 
> example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>  
> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>  
> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be 
> adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set 
> of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
> detail page for easy discovery.
> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, 
> and mix engineers to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include 
> doubling the number of Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering 
> educational programs, and providing resources to independent artists.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
> something.  When I listen to a 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is not, any headphone will work, the only difference is that if you set 
Dolby Atmos to Automatic on your iPhone then if you have a headset with that 
chip it will automatically know if a song was recorded or remastered with Dolby 
Atmos and play it this way. If you set this to Always on the iPhone any headset 
including your Apple Earpods which came with the iPhone will work and even 
playing it back via the iPhone external speakers will work. If you have an 
Apple Music subscription just try it, lye down and put you riPhone on your 
chest just under your chin in landscape orientation and play the demo track 
Apple has made.
You can also Google "Apple Music spacial audio" and find a bunch of articles 
from pretty much all the popular sources like
The Verge, 9to5Mac and others and read about it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard
Now I am a bit confused. From the article which you quoted it seems that the H1 
or W1 chip is indeed required.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Keep in mind that Dolby
Atmos or spacial audio as they also call it does not require Apple headphones 
with the H1 chip at all. I don't know if there is a drawback when you say that
Dolby
Atmos should be always on insrtead of automatic, but if you turn it to Alwahys 
on you hear the music which is available in the Dolby
Atmos format using any old (or new) headset. Keep in mind that while some of 
the high-end Bluetooth headsets sound very good, a wired headset will still 
sound better. I would not be surprised if in a tru test the finding would be 
that you can get a wired headset which sounds as good as those $300 to $600 
Bluetooth headsets so many people now buy for a lot less. But to each their own.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, imme

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Arnold Schmidt]

As for battery life, it is advertised to be 12 hours. I have never run them 
completely down, but there have been a few times that I have run them for maybe 
6 or 7 hours, and they were around 50 percent. Of course, it drops more quickly 
after 50 percent than before. As for an on off switch, it does have one, it is 
on the other side from the what will call the mode button, volume control and 
microphone. These headphones are unique, in that when one attaches the buds 
together with the magnet, it puts them into, as it were, a sleep mode. I have 
never just left them in this sleep mode to see how much it would drain the 
battery, as compared to turning them off, but I will bet it wouldn't drain it a 
lot over time. I do just turn them off when I am not going to use them for a 
while. 

Finally, and this is important to know, the charging cable that comes with them 
is a u s b c to u s b c cable. So, unless you have one of these chargers, you 
need either to buy a u s b c charger, or a usb to u s b c cable to charge them. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Arnold
I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?
Regards
Fanus
 
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.
 
And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
 
Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.
 
From: viphone@googlegro

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Arnold Schmidt]

One more question you asked: As for how they sound, that is so subjective. 
Compared to the Airpods, they aren't quite as bright, don't have quite as much 
bass, but they are acceptable to me, especially as for how much I paid for 
them. I tend to like a  brighter sound,  a lot of these headphones, in my 
opinion, have too much bass and not enough treble,  they are acceptable to me. 
They don't sound quite as good as the old beats x headphones did, but then the 
beats x cost almost twice as much and the battery life was miserable, less than 
half of what the beats flex is. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jun 21, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

As for battery life, it is advertised to be 12 hours. I have never run them 
completely down, but there have been a few times that I have run them for maybe 
6 or 7 hours, and they were around 50 percent. Of course, it drops more quickly 
after 50 percent than before. As for an on off switch, it does have one, it is 
on the other side from the what will call the mode button, volume control and 
microphone. These headphones are unique, in that when one attaches the buds 
together with the magnet, it puts them into, as it were, a sleep mode. I have 
never just left them in this sleep mode to see how much it would drain the 
battery, as compared to turning them off, but I will bet it wouldn't drain it a 
lot over time. I do just turn them off when I am not going to use them for a 
while. 

Finally, and this is important to know, the charging cable that comes with them 
is a u s b c to u s b c cable. So, unless you have one of these chargers, you 
need either to buy a u s b c charger, or a usb to u s b c cable to charge them. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Arnold
I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?
Regards
Fanus
 
Regards
Fanus
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
 
Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.
 
And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
 
Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Andy Baracco]

Audio quality is very subjective, and depends on a lot of factors having 
nothing to do with the product.  I notice that as I age and am experiencing 
some hearing loss, that I am not as good a judge of audio quality as I used to 
be.  It is common to lose high frequencies in our hearing as we age, so that 
might be why everything starts to sound too basey.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Arnold Schmidt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 1:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


  One more question you asked: As for how they sound, that is so subjective. 
Compared to the Airpods, they aren't quite as bright, don't have quite as much 
bass, but they are acceptable to me, especially as for how much I paid for 
them. I tend to like a  brighter sound,  a lot of these headphones, in my 
opinion, have too much bass and not enough treble,  they are acceptable to me. 
They don't sound quite as good as the old beats x headphones did, but then the 
beats x cost almost twice as much and the battery life was miserable, less than 
half of what the beats flex is. 


  Arnold Schmidt 



  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

  On Jun 21, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:


  As for battery life, it is advertised to be 12 hours. I have never run them 
completely down, but there have been a few times that I have run them for maybe 
6 or 7 hours, and they were around 50 percent. Of course, it drops more quickly 
after 50 percent than before. As for an on off switch, it does have one, it is 
on the other side from the what will call the mode button, volume control and 
microphone. These headphones are unique, in that when one attaches the buds 
together with the magnet, it puts them into, as it were, a sleep mode. I have 
never just left them in this sleep mode to see how much it would drain the 
battery, as compared to turning them off, but I will bet it wouldn't drain it a 
lot over time. I do just turn them off when I am not going to use them for a 
while. 


  Finally, and this is important to know, the charging cable that comes with 
them is a u s b c to u s b c cable. So, unless you have one of these chargers, 
you need either to buy a u s b c charger, or a usb to u s b c cable to charge 
them. 


  Arnold Schmidt 



  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

  On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


   
  Hello Arnold

  I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?

  Regards

  Fanus



  Regards

  Fanus





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



  I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last 
year, and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. 
For what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that 
they do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I 
could buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell 
for, so I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the 
Beats Flex headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 



  Arnold Schmidt 



  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


  On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

   

  Hello Sieghard and list

  I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

  Regards

  Fanus







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



  Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.



  And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:



  Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Um,,,

Just a note,

The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,

Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello All,

I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!

I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> say about the tech specs.
>  
> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Sieghard and list
> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
> sure if they really know the specs.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
> format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
> using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an 
> example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>  
> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>  
> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be 
> adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set 
> of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
> detail page for easy discovery.
> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, 
> and mix engineers to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include 
> doubling the number of Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering 
> educational programs, and providing resources to independent artists.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
> som

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.
At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering educational programs, and 
providing resources to independent artists.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, shouldn’t 
it also play using the new d

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[alia robinson]

actually LP had two leads, mike and chester.

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special 
>> set of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
>> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
>> detail page for easy discovery.
>> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
>> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
>> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
>> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
>> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
>> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for music

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arnold

Thanks very much for the info.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

As for battery life, it is advertised to be 12 hours. I have never run them 
completely down, but there have been a few times that I have run them for maybe 
6 or 7 hours, and they were around 50 percent. Of course, it drops more quickly 
after 50 percent than before. As for an on off switch, it does have one, it is 
on the other side from the what will call the mode button, volume control and 
microphone. These headphones are unique, in that when one attaches the buds 
together with the magnet, it puts them into, as it were, a sleep mode. I have 
never just left them in this sleep mode to see how much it would drain the 
battery, as compared to turning them off, but I will bet it wouldn't drain it a 
lot over time. I do just turn them off when I am not going to use them for a 
while. 

 

Finally, and this is important to know, the charging cable that comes with them 
is a u s b c to u s b c cable. So, unless you have one of these chargers, you 
need either to buy a u s b c charger, or a usb to u s b c cable to charge them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Arnold

I forgot to ask how do you find the battery life i.e. how many hours can one 
listen before its necessary to charge? Also, it sounded from David's podcast 
that there is no on/off switch but that one must stick the two ear pieces 
together via the magnets to put it to sleep, or did I mis understand? And 
lastly, does the sound quality compare well to the first generation airpods? 
Sorry for all these questions?

Regards

Fanus

 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

I have had the Beats Flex headphones almost since when they came out last year, 
and they do have the modern chip to take advantage of the spacial audio. For 
what I paid for them, I am happy with these headphones. I would say that they 
do not sound quite as good as the second generation airpods, but then I could 
buy three pair of these headphones for what a pair of the airpods sell for, so 
I hope the airpods sound better. If something were to happen to the Beats Flex 
headphones, I would buy another pair of them. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. T

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the detail page for easy 
discovery.

At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from some 
of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including hip-hop, 
country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with artists and 
labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more artists begin 
to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. Together, Apple 
Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, and mix engineers 
to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include doubling the number of 
Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering e

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Apple may have websites for a lot of countries, but while there is an Apple.za 
site which is for South Africa, you can't buy anything there. I fyou select the 
"Buy" option you are redirected to a dealer locator and if you Google "Buying 
Apple products in South Africa", you find a website where the following is 
sstated:

Please be advised that ZA Store is operated independently by ZA Online Store 
Pty (Ltd) as authorised by Apple South Africa.
Note: Any purchases of Apple products over the Internet from the ZA Store will 
be subject to terms and conditions as set by the operating body, ZA Online 
Store Pty (Ltd).
Apple Inc. will not be held liable for any possible, consequential or 
inadvertent misrepresentation.
For additional queries regarding online sales, please call: 087 940 3100

On that website an iPhone Mini 64 Gb, for example, costs 13,999 South African 
Rand which converts to approx $980 US Dollars. This phone costs $699 in the US.
In Canada Apple is currently also gouging a bit, $699 US currently converts to 
approx $875 or $880 Canadian, but an iPhone 12 Mini 64 Gb here in Canada is 
$979 Canadian which if converted back to US is approx. $780 US which is a good 
10% higher than the US price.
But it is still not nearly as bad as in South Africa where it costs approx. 
$980 US or 40% more than what one would pay in the US.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the so

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Ed Worrell]

?Actually Simon,

Mike Shinoda and Chester were co-lead singers. Right now Mike Shinoda is the 
lead singer. Linkin Park is still very much a band after Chesters passing. Mike 
and the rest of the band are continuing on with music and other projects 
related to LP.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special 
>> set of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
>> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
>> detail page for easy discovery.
>> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
>> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
>> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
>> artists

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

Thanks a lot for this. People usually do not believe me about the bad situation 
we experience here. Although we pay more for apple phones the cell phone 
companies do import batteries for the phones but as stated before I can not 
replace my iPod Touch battery and also not my apple watch battery.

Regards

Fanus

 

  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Apple may have websites for a lot of countries, but while there is an Apple.za 
site which is for South Africa, you can't buy anything there. I fyou select the 
"Buy" option you are redirected to a dealer locator and if you Google "Buying 
Apple products in South Africa", you find a website where the following is 
sstated:

 

Please be advised that ZA Store is operated independently by ZA Online Store 
Pty (Ltd) as authorised by Apple South Africa.

Note: Any purchases of Apple products over the Internet from the ZA Store will 
be subject to terms and conditions as set by the operating body, ZA Online 
Store Pty (Ltd).

Apple Inc. will not be held liable for any possible, consequential or 
inadvertent misrepresentation.

For additional queries regarding online sales, please call: 087 940 3100

 

On that website an iPhone Mini 64 Gb, for example, costs 13,999 South African 
Rand which converts to approx $980 US Dollars. This phone costs $699 in the US.

In Canada Apple is currently also gouging a bit, $699 US currently converts to 
approx $875 or $880 Canadian, but an iPhone 12 Mini 64 Gb here in Canada is 
$979 Canadian which if converted back to US is approx. $780 US which is a good 
10% higher than the US price.

But it is still not nearly as bad as in South Africa where it costs approx. 
$980 US or 40% more than what one would pay in the US.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I know chester came in after they started but now I'm kind of stuck with 
his voice as front man.

But lets hope they keep up the standard they've already set,

As for Chester,
Bummer that those things happen,
Chris cornell and chester within a couple of months of each other,
 R I P 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 3:01 am
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

?Actually Simon,

Mike Shinoda and Chester were co-lead singers. Right now Mike Shinoda is the 
lead singer. Linkin Park is still very much a band after Chesters passing. Mike 
and the rest of the band are continuing on with music and other projects 
related to LP.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly 

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
a

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Alex Stone]

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.



And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:



Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hell no alex,

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple u

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Alex Stone]

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturda

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
They raise the IQ of both countrys


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.



If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 p

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Alex Stone]

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Les Kriegler]

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
> justice!
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>  
> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
> welcome to stay where they are
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hell no alex,
>  
> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>  
> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
> overly possible either?
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the 
> end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who 
> can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened 
> to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>  
> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>  
> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>  
> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>  
> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
> S doesn’t have one.
>  
> I’d start with www.apple.com
> And see what happens froom there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
&

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Alex Stone]

Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the s

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Les Kriegler]

No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
> Kriegler 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
> threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
> find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
>> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
>> justice!
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>>  
>> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
>> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
>> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
>> Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
>> welcome to stay where they are
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hell no alex,
>>  
>> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>>  
>> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
>> Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
>> overly possible either?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hello Simon
>> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
>> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
>> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in 
>> the end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population 
>> who can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
>> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what 
>> happened to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>>  
>> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>>  
>> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>>  
>> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
>> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
>> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>>  
>> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
>> S doesn’t have one.
>>  
>> I’d start with www.apple.com
>> And see what happens froom there.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hello Simon
>> That i

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Bugger,
And it’s related due to the sounds coming out of our apple devices.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:47 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone 
mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Alex Stone]

Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:


It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here


Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,



One of our prime ministers back in the 80s

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia

They raise the IQ of both countrys





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hell no alex,



They are keeping poisonis things over there,



We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Simon 
A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here



What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?



Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.



As for stock sitting on shelves,



That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.



Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.



I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>

And see what happens froom there.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Mary Otten]

This is ridiculous. Some of us on the list are actually interested in Apple 
stuff. Why don’t the rest of you take your stuff off to a private location and 
talk there. And moderators, where the heck are you? The list is getting out of 
control with stupidity.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
> justice!
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>  
> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
> welcome to stay where they are
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hell no alex,
>  
> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>  
> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
> overly possible either?
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the 
> end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who 
> can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened 
> to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>  
> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>  
> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>  
> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>  
> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
> S doesn’t have one.
>  
> I’d start with www.apple.com
> And see what happens froom there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headp

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Simon

Unfortunately not. The nearest border from me is that of Namibia which is about 
800 km and I suppose the same would be applicable there.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com

And see what happens froom there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

 

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Sieghard and list

I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos technology, but 
that of course will take time and I would not expect that every song in Apple's 
75 Million song library will be remastered.

 

And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:

 

Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables artists 
to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By default, 
Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all AirPods and Beats 
headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in speakers in the 
latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be adding new Dolby 
Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set of Dolby Atmos 
playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In addition, albums that 
are available in D

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Fanus Buys]

Ok, I suppose I must take the blame, so sorry.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.

I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.

 

IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously considering 
unsubscribing.

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 

Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
Kriegler 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

 

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 

They raise the IQ of both countrys

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Hell no alex,

 

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

 

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?


  _  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Hello Simon

Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

 

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

 

As for stock sitting on shelves,

 

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do 

But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

 

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your

S doesn’t have one.

 

I’d start with www.apple.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0e2ac4b0d72f4c02c38e08d935dbb6fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Simon A Fogarty]

Bugger,

Sorry to hear that,

Guess we’re al different in what we have access to.
What about amazon websites?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 8:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
Unfortunately not. The nearest border from me is that of Namibia which is about 
800 km and I suppose the same would be applicable there.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple I 
have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the end 
I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who can 
afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the shelves for 
month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened to my iPod 
and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?

Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.

As for stock sitting on shelves,

That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
started it’s sitting on the shelf life.

Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
S doesn’t have one.

I’d start with www.apple.com<http://www.apple.com>
And see what happens froom there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Simon
That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and one 
of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I made 
sure that the case stayed fully charged.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they say 
about the tech specs.

If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Hello Sieghard and list
I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in SA 
has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not sure if 
they really know the specs.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an example 
it would appear that songs can be remastered with

RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Dennis Long]

I run a phones for the blind list.  We discuss apple android and other phones.  
I assure you this would’ve been ended a long time ago.  To subscribe to phones 
for the blind send a message to

phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.

I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.

 

IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously considering 
unsubscribing.

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Except that you have no authority.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Les 
Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
justice!

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,

 

One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 

Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 

They raise the IQ of both countrys

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
welcome to stay where they are


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

Hell no alex,

 

They are keeping poisonis things over there,

 

We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

 

Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here 

 

So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
overly possible either?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
F

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Joseph Hudson]

Oh yes it would have that list is a great list. And another great list that 
goes along with it. Especially if you're looking just to discuss Apple 
products. It's called blonde apples. And to join the group, you can send a 
blank email to the following email address.

blindapples+subscr...@groups.io

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> I run a phones for the blind list.  We discuss apple android and other 
> phones.  I assure you this would’ve been ended a long time ago.  To subscribe 
> to phones for the blind send a message to
> phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 8:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> And clearly, this list is essentially not moderated because this whole side 
> tracking of the thread should have been stopped a long time ago.
> I’m not a moderator, or several people would be off this list.
>  
> IN fact, this list is getting to the point that I am more seriously 
> considering unsubscribing.
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Except that you have no authority.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
>> On 23 Jun 2021, at 00:58, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Les 
>>> Kriegler 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>  
>>> OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
>>> threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll 
>>> and find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the 
>>> topic.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
>>>> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
>>>> justice!
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Simon 
>>>> A Fogarty 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>>>>  
>>>> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s 
>>>> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia 
>>>> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex 
>>>> Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
>>>> welcome to stay where they are
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Simon 
>>>> A Fogarty 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> Hell no alex,
>>>>  
>>>> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>>>>  
>>>> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>>>>  
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex 
>>>> Stone
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>>>  
>>>> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to 
>>>> Australia?
>>>> From:viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Simon 
>>>> A Fogarty 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
>>>> To:viphone@googlegroups.