Important Moderator Message - Was Re: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking
Hi Thomas, I'm still catching up because of my real day job and so have gotten behind on list messages. I don't know how it's done on AppleVis, or how you do it personally, but here on viphone we try to not air dirty laundry. This means that if you have a problem with a list member or how the list is run, you usually take that up with the person directly. In this case, viphone administration is handled by me, and by Cara Quinn. If you have specific gripes against a specific list member, take it up with that list member directly or ignore it. Now, as to your question, no, viphone doesn't condone discussions of piracy, illegal hacks, etc. You can be assured that if I read something which doesn't belong here on list, it will get taken care of. Again, I do this mostly off list as to not clutter the list with more traffic. However since this message of yours and another so far that I'm aware of has been made publicly, I wanted to set the record straight. Also note that I'm holding you accountable for what you write on here, not AppleVis. Just so it's clear. Feel free to email me or Cara Quinn directly if you have any questions. -- Raul A. Gallegos - Moderator Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 2/14/2013 4:46 PM, AnonyMouse wrote: Hello all, Just for clarification and understanding. Is this not illegal to do? We have removed such topic and discussion on AppleVis because of the legality of this procedure of taking a PAID voice that was designed for the NVDA and specifically for that product. My understanding from the EULA from Vocalizer is that the voices you purchased for such product such as NVDA is not be used or shared by any other person or products. I don't run this mailing list but I am rather surprised that the moderators continue to allow this to keep going without any interactions by them. So if something like this that is illegal. Can we discuss about IOS Betas, share apps with each other, tell how to crack files to use and such on here? There are developers that I am sure that are on this Mailing List and would probably like to know if their product was mentioned here and people are showing them how to use them illegally would probably be frowning on this. I think such practice shouldn't be allowed on the ViPhone and should be done elsewhere. That is just my two cents and I'm just really surprised that others haven't mentioned or have said anything of this. So I am curious if ViPhone allow and condone such practice and piracy? Thanks. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Earle Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:40 AM To: Viphone Subject: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jailbraking Having trouble getting new voices to work after trying to change voices on my iPhone 5. I'm following the instructions to the letter, but no luck. If I outline what I've done, I'm hoping someone out there can tell me where I'm going wrong. I've tried with Tom and Lee, and no luck either way. I've tried changing the Irish voice and then I tried changing the U.S english voice. No luck either way though. I even tried different variants of the voices as well. 1. Put the following files into a folder so I'd have them all in 1 place. clc_ena_cfg3.dat clc_ena_lee_cfg3.dat select_lee_bet2f22.dat synth_lee_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat uselect_lee_dri40.dat I also renamed the proper .hdr file to broker.hdr and put it in the folder as well. I made sure that I chose the correct files depending on the variant and voice I was using. 2. I navigated to the proper folder on my device and deleted everything in the folder. Like I said, I tried with the U.S english folder as well as the Irish folder. 3. I selected all the files I'd prepared for my voice and placed them into the now empty folder on my device. 4. I rebooted the device, and when I went to the language in the router where the new voice should have been, everything was silent. 5. I once again navigated to the folder on my device. Deleted everything, and put the original files back. 6. The original voice is working fine again. Can anyone see what I might be doing wrong? The Irish voice folder didn't have a user rules .txt file and I didn't really think that mattered. I also made sure that use compact voice was turned on. I'm totally stumped. Any help would be most appreciated. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
RE: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking
Hello all, Just for clarification and understanding. Is this not illegal to do? We have removed such topic and discussion on AppleVis because of the legality of this procedure of taking a PAID voice that was designed for the NVDA and specifically for that product. My understanding from the EULA from Vocalizer is that the voices you purchased for such product such as NVDA is not be used or shared by any other person or products. I don't run this mailing list but I am rather surprised that the moderators continue to allow this to keep going without any interactions by them. So if something like this that is illegal. Can we discuss about IOS Betas, share apps with each other, tell how to crack files to use and such on here? There are developers that I am sure that are on this Mailing List and would probably like to know if their product was mentioned here and people are showing them how to use them illegally would probably be frowning on this. I think such practice shouldn't be allowed on the ViPhone and should be done elsewhere. That is just my two cents and I'm just really surprised that others haven't mentioned or have said anything of this. So I am curious if ViPhone allow and condone such practice and piracy? Thanks. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Earle Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:40 AM To: Viphone Subject: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jailbraking Having trouble getting new voices to work after trying to change voices on my iPhone 5. I'm following the instructions to the letter, but no luck. If I outline what I've done, I'm hoping someone out there can tell me where I'm going wrong. I've tried with Tom and Lee, and no luck either way. I've tried changing the Irish voice and then I tried changing the U.S english voice. No luck either way though. I even tried different variants of the voices as well. 1. Put the following files into a folder so I'd have them all in 1 place. clc_ena_cfg3.dat clc_ena_lee_cfg3.dat select_lee_bet2f22.dat synth_lee_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat uselect_lee_dri40.dat I also renamed the proper .hdr file to broker.hdr and put it in the folder as well. I made sure that I chose the correct files depending on the variant and voice I was using. 2. I navigated to the proper folder on my device and deleted everything in the folder. Like I said, I tried with the U.S english folder as well as the Irish folder. 3. I selected all the files I'd prepared for my voice and placed them into the now empty folder on my device. 4. I rebooted the device, and when I went to the language in the router where the new voice should have been, everything was silent. 5. I once again navigated to the folder on my device. Deleted everything, and put the original files back. 6. The original voice is working fine again. Can anyone see what I might be doing wrong? The Irish voice folder didn't have a user rules .txt file and I didn't really think that mattered. I also made sure that use compact voice was turned on. I'm totally stumped. Any help would be most appreciated. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking
Hello mouse and all. Thanks for mentioning this. Had I known this was piracy or illegal, I would not have asked about or tried such a thing. The moderators of this list strongly discourage piracy and illegal behavior. I have returned my device to the state it was in before trying the voice change. I am sincerely sorry. A jail broken Samantha is better than nothing. Phillip Tracy Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:46 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Hello all, Just for clarification and understanding. Is this not illegal to do? We have removed such topic and discussion on AppleVis because of the legality of this procedure of taking a PAID voice that was designed for the NVDA and specifically for that product. My understanding from the EULA from Vocalizer is that the voices you purchased for such product such as NVDA is not be used or shared by any other person or products. I don't run this mailing list but I am rather surprised that the moderators continue to allow this to keep going without any interactions by them. So if something like this that is illegal. Can we discuss about IOS Betas, share apps with each other, tell how to crack files to use and such on here? There are developers that I am sure that are on this Mailing List and would probably like to know if their product was mentioned here and people are showing them how to use them illegally would probably be frowning on this. I think such practice shouldn't be allowed on the ViPhone and should be done elsewhere. That is just my two cents and I'm just really surprised that others haven't mentioned or have said anything of this. So I am curious if ViPhone allow and condone such practice and piracy? Thanks. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Earle Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:40 AM To: Viphone Subject: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jailbraking Having trouble getting new voices to work after trying to change voices on my iPhone 5. I'm following the instructions to the letter, but no luck. If I outline what I've done, I'm hoping someone out there can tell me where I'm going wrong. I've tried with Tom and Lee, and no luck either way. I've tried changing the Irish voice and then I tried changing the U.S english voice. No luck either way though. I even tried different variants of the voices as well. 1. Put the following files into a folder so I'd have them all in 1 place. clc_ena_cfg3.dat clc_ena_lee_cfg3.dat select_lee_bet2f22.dat synth_lee_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat uselect_lee_dri40.dat I also renamed the proper .hdr file to broker.hdr and put it in the folder as well. I made sure that I chose the correct files depending on the variant and voice I was using. 2. I navigated to the proper folder on my device and deleted everything in the folder. Like I said, I tried with the U.S english folder as well as the Irish folder. 3. I selected all the files I'd prepared for my voice and placed them into the now empty folder on my device. 4. I rebooted the device, and when I went to the language in the router where the new voice should have been, everything was silent. 5. I once again navigated to the folder on my device. Deleted everything, and put the original files back. 6. The original voice is working fine again. Can anyone see what I might be doing wrong? The Irish voice folder didn't have a user rules .txt file and I didn't really think that mattered. I also made sure that use compact voice was turned on. I'm totally stumped. Any help would be most appreciated. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking
Applevis.com. iOS6 app store. Nuff said really; how hipper critical. Cheers, Ben. On 2/14/13, PHILLIP TRACY tracyp4...@msn.com wrote: Hello mouse and all. Thanks for mentioning this. Had I known this was piracy or illegal, I would not have asked about or tried such a thing. The moderators of this list strongly discourage piracy and illegal behavior. I have returned my device to the state it was in before trying the voice change. I am sincerely sorry. A jail broken Samantha is better than nothing. Phillip Tracy Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:46 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Hello all, Just for clarification and understanding. Is this not illegal to do? We have removed such topic and discussion on AppleVis because of the legality of this procedure of taking a PAID voice that was designed for the NVDA and specifically for that product. My understanding from the EULA from Vocalizer is that the voices you purchased for such product such as NVDA is not be used or shared by any other person or products. I don't run this mailing list but I am rather surprised that the moderators continue to allow this to keep going without any interactions by them. So if something like this that is illegal. Can we discuss about IOS Betas, share apps with each other, tell how to crack files to use and such on here? There are developers that I am sure that are on this Mailing List and would probably like to know if their product was mentioned here and people are showing them how to use them illegally would probably be frowning on this. I think such practice shouldn't be allowed on the ViPhone and should be done elsewhere. That is just my two cents and I'm just really surprised that others haven't mentioned or have said anything of this. So I am curious if ViPhone allow and condone such practice and piracy? Thanks. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Earle Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:40 AM To: Viphone Subject: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jailbraking Having trouble getting new voices to work after trying to change voices on my iPhone 5. I'm following the instructions to the letter, but no luck. If I outline what I've done, I'm hoping someone out there can tell me where I'm going wrong. I've tried with Tom and Lee, and no luck either way. I've tried changing the Irish voice and then I tried changing the U.S english voice. No luck either way though. I even tried different variants of the voices as well. 1. Put the following files into a folder so I'd have them all in 1 place. clc_ena_cfg3.dat clc_ena_lee_cfg3.dat select_lee_bet2f22.dat synth_lee_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat uselect_lee_dri40.dat I also renamed the proper .hdr file to broker.hdr and put it in the folder as well. I made sure that I chose the correct files depending on the variant and voice I was using. 2. I navigated to the proper folder on my device and deleted everything in the folder. Like I said, I tried with the U.S english folder as well as the Irish folder. 3. I selected all the files I'd prepared for my voice and placed them into the now empty folder on my device. 4. I rebooted the device, and when I went to the language in the router where the new voice should have been, everything was silent. 5. I once again navigated to the folder on my device. Deleted everything, and put the original files back. 6. The original voice is working fine again. Can anyone see what I might be doing wrong? The Irish voice folder didn't have a user rules .txt file and I didn't really think that mattered. I also made sure that use compact voice was turned on. I'm totally stumped. Any help would be most appreciated. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To
Re: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking
I don't get it, so either I'm pretty dense or enough wasn't said. What do you mean, and what's hypocritical? On 14/02/13 18:54, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Applevis.com. iOS6 app store. Nuff said really; how hipper critical. Cheers, Ben. On 2/14/13, PHILLIP TRACY tracyp4...@msn.com wrote: Hello mouse and all. Thanks for mentioning this. Had I known this was piracy or illegal, I would not have asked about or tried such a thing. The moderators of this list strongly discourage piracy and illegal behavior. I have returned my device to the state it was in before trying the voice change. I am sincerely sorry. A jail broken Samantha is better than nothing. Phillip Tracy Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:46 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Hello all, Just for clarification and understanding. Is this not illegal to do? We have removed such topic and discussion on AppleVis because of the legality of this procedure of taking a PAID voice that was designed for the NVDA and specifically for that product. My understanding from the EULA from Vocalizer is that the voices you purchased for such product such as NVDA is not be used or shared by any other person or products. I don't run this mailing list but I am rather surprised that the moderators continue to allow this to keep going without any interactions by them. So if something like this that is illegal. Can we discuss about IOS Betas, share apps with each other, tell how to crack files to use and such on here? There are developers that I am sure that are on this Mailing List and would probably like to know if their product was mentioned here and people are showing them how to use them illegally would probably be frowning on this. I think such practice shouldn't be allowed on the ViPhone and should be done elsewhere. That is just my two cents and I'm just really surprised that others haven't mentioned or have said anything of this. So I am curious if ViPhone allow and condone such practice and piracy? Thanks. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Earle Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:40 AM To: Viphone Subject: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jailbraking Having trouble getting new voices to work after trying to change voices on my iPhone 5. I'm following the instructions to the letter, but no luck. If I outline what I've done, I'm hoping someone out there can tell me where I'm going wrong. I've tried with Tom and Lee, and no luck either way. I've tried changing the Irish voice and then I tried changing the U.S english voice. No luck either way though. I even tried different variants of the voices as well. 1. Put the following files into a folder so I'd have them all in 1 place. clc_ena_cfg3.dat clc_ena_lee_cfg3.dat select_lee_bet2f22.dat synth_lee_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat uselect_lee_dri40.dat I also renamed the proper .hdr file to broker.hdr and put it in the folder as well. I made sure that I chose the correct files depending on the variant and voice I was using. 2. I navigated to the proper folder on my device and deleted everything in the folder. Like I said, I tried with the U.S english folder as well as the Irish folder. 3. I selected all the files I'd prepared for my voice and placed them into the now empty folder on my device. 4. I rebooted the device, and when I went to the language in the router where the new voice should have been, everything was silent. 5. I once again navigated to the folder on my device. Deleted everything, and put the original files back. 6. The original voice is working fine again. Can anyone see what I might be doing wrong? The Irish voice folder didn't have a user rules .txt file and I didn't really think that mattered. I also made sure that use compact voice was turned on. I'm totally stumped. Any help would be most appreciated. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo: rowdyamerican Aim: rowdyamerican28 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To
RE: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking
Hello Ben, What Ben is talking about is that our main person of AppleVis had decided to reveal a serious accessibility problem that was discovered in the beta of IOS 6 right before it was released. David had decided to real what would be considered a no-no by many people. Rightfully, so. That was a serious mistake on our part. However, that was solely David decision since he is the owner of AppleVis. He is not a developer unlike some of us were and are still. David has no connection with Apple in anyway. He somehow was managed to obtain the IOS 6 GM that was release as a final release. It had felt it was serious to not to people that Apple had a serious flaw in the App Store. At that time it was completely inaccessible. So he wanted to warn all of the visually community of the serious flaw and advise not to update your device to the IOS 6 with this flaw. The day before it was release to the public is when they actually fix the serious flaw on the App Store. So Ben is thinking the whole team is a hypocrite or something. I have some other words for him but I'll keep my tongue on this. All other members of the Editorial Team had nothing to do with this release of that article. Did it break the NDA? Sure, I suppose so if you were a developer but he was not. My point is that we learned quite a bit from that mistake. Lot of people burned us hard on that. Some continues to rehash it. I won't mention names because that isn't my style. So we won't be doing that again anytime soon or ever for that matter. I am trying to look over for the visually impaired community such as the ViPhone. I don't want to see AppleVis nor is ViPhone get shut down because some of the people think it alright to break the law. Just like those that told us on AppleVis. So Ben if you are one of those people that scolded David for doing that. I'm glad! Why don't you step up like a man and do it on here for ViPhone then and be mature to state something like that on here? That was low and I'm not going to steep down low like you have done. I'm no hypocrite because I didn't make that choice on AppleVis and said it myself that it was wrong. So is this topic. 'Nuff said. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jail braking Applevis.com. iOS6 app store. Nuff said really; how hipper critical. Cheers, Ben. On 2/14/13, PHILLIP TRACY tracyp4...@msn.com wrote: Hello mouse and all. Thanks for mentioning this. Had I known this was piracy or illegal, I would not have asked about or tried such a thing. The moderators of this list strongly discourage piracy and illegal behavior. I have returned my device to the state it was in before trying the voice change. I am sincerely sorry. A jail broken Samantha is better than nothing. Phillip Tracy Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:46 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com wrote: Hello all, Just for clarification and understanding. Is this not illegal to do? We have removed such topic and discussion on AppleVis because of the legality of this procedure of taking a PAID voice that was designed for the NVDA and specifically for that product. My understanding from the EULA from Vocalizer is that the voices you purchased for such product such as NVDA is not be used or shared by any other person or products. I don't run this mailing list but I am rather surprised that the moderators continue to allow this to keep going without any interactions by them. So if something like this that is illegal. Can we discuss about IOS Betas, share apps with each other, tell how to crack files to use and such on here? There are developers that I am sure that are on this Mailing List and would probably like to know if their product was mentioned here and people are showing them how to use them illegally would probably be frowning on this. I think such practice shouldn't be allowed on the ViPhone and should be done elsewhere. That is just my two cents and I'm just really surprised that others haven't mentioned or have said anything of this. So I am curious if ViPhone allow and condone such practice and piracy? Thanks. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Earle Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:40 AM To: Viphone Subject: Changing Voices On iPhone After Jailbraking Having trouble getting new voices to work after trying to change voices on my iPhone 5. I'm following the instructions to the letter, but no luck. If I outline what I've done, I'm hoping someone out there can tell me where I'm going wrong. I've tried with Tom
