Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-11-10 Thread Eric Siu
Possible solution to resolve the issue:

Dear all, my wife, visually impaired, relies on voiceover a lot and she 
also notices this iOS8.1 bug which will stream both voiceover and music to 
airplay.  The intended feature prior to iOS8.1 works well where voiceover 
should remain on iPhone speaker while music streams to airplay.  We finally 
find out what causes the problem and work out the way to resolve the 
problem.  Hope this helps other who encounter the same issue before Apple's 
next iOS upgrade to remove the bug.

There is a new feature called audio ducking in iOS8.1. It will duck the 
audio when an alert/message comes in.  As my wife cannot see, she has to 
set voiceover always on. When she listens to music and an alert/message 
comes in, the music will lower (i.e. duck) so that she can hear clearer the 
alert.  A very good new feature indeed.  By default, iOS8.1 has enabled 
this audio ducking.

One day, she suddently notes that both music and voiceover get airplayed to 
speaker.  We manage to identify the cause after a few resetting and 
debugging and find out that she has accidentally disabled audio ducking.

Therefore, we would like to share with you all who are disturbed by the 
problem:

Before you airplay, please enable audio ducking first (set audio ducking to 
on); voiceover will then stay on iPhone speaker and music gets airplayed.

It works on our iOS devices and we hope it helps you too.

Kind regards
Eric

On Monday, September 29, 2014 5:52:46 AM UTC+8, Sieghard wrote:

 Hello,

  

 I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my 
 Airport Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my 
 wife’s iPod Touch and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control 
 Centre. It also appears that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and 
 taken it out of the app which means the only way to activate Airplay is via 
 the Control Centre.

 So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 
 8.0.2 and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find 
 that Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

 This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple 
 has indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was 
 first introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the 
 reaction time between swiping or touching something and it being announced 
 via Airplay is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

 I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but 
 can’t even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

  

 OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay 
 and with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and 
 is responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still 
 sends Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The 
 Voiceover sounds and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I 
 assume this is definitely a bug.

 I will have to write to access...@apple.com javascript: about this.

  

 As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking 
 especially if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or 
 iPad.

  

  

 Regards,

 Sieghard

  


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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-11-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eric,

 

That is another excellent discovery. I just tried this on my 5S and was able to 
reproduce this. I usually want my media to lower in volume to hear Voiceover so 
I have audio ducking on and I don’t even have it in my rotor. But I just put it 
in and turned it off and as soon as I sent my Audible book to Sonos via Airplay 
Voiceover went with it. Turning audio ducking on while the Airplay stream is 
ongoing does not return Voiceover to the iPhone, but when I switched all audio 
back to the iPhone and then turned audio ducking on Voiceover stayed on my 
phone.

 

I will write to Apple Accessibility about this since I don’t see any sense in 
sending Voiceover to an Airplay device as it introduces an inacceptable lag of 
3 to 4 seconds so this should be fixed so that people who want to turn audio 
ducking on can do that without any other negative results.

 

There is also still the problem that after you use Airplay SIRI will not work. 
Right now that I used Airplay, SIRI will beep to listen and immediately the 
other beeps play indicating it has finished listening. Somebody else reported 
this and at this point I would have to reboot my phone. Not sure if in time 
SIRI would work again, but I am surprised this hasn’t come up more as it even 
seems to be like this without Voiceover. At least if I turn Voiceover off at 
this point it does the same thing, maybe if Voiceover is not running to begin 
with it works.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Siu
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

Possible solution to resolve the issue:

 

Dear all, my wife, visually impaired, relies on voiceover a lot and she also 
notices this iOS8.1 bug which will stream both voiceover and music to airplay.  
The intended feature prior to iOS8.1 works well where voiceover should remain 
on iPhone speaker while music streams to airplay.  We finally find out what 
causes the problem and work out the way to resolve the problem.  Hope this 
helps other who encounter the same issue before Apple's next iOS upgrade to 
remove the bug.

 

There is a new feature called audio ducking in iOS8.1. It will duck the audio 
when an alert/message comes in.  As my wife cannot see, she has to set 
voiceover always on. When she listens to music and an alert/message comes in, 
the music will lower (i.e. duck) so that she can hear clearer the alert.  A 
very good new feature indeed.  By default, iOS8.1 has enabled this audio 
ducking.

 

One day, she suddently notes that both music and voiceover get airplayed to 
speaker.  We manage to identify the cause after a few resetting and debugging 
and find out that she has accidentally disabled audio ducking.

 

Therefore, we would like to share with you all who are disturbed by the problem:

 

Before you airplay, please enable audio ducking first (set audio ducking to 
on); voiceover will then stay on iPhone speaker and music gets airplayed.

 

It works on our iOS devices and we hope it helps you too.

 

Kind regards

Eric


On Monday, September 29, 2014 5:52:46 AM UTC+8, Sieghard wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to access...@apple.com javascript:  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards

RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-11-10 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

I know someone who was complaining about this very issue over the weekend.
She is on this group, however, I will forward this message to her just to
make sure she does not miss this tip.

I had not noticed the bug since I usually airplay from my PC and not from my
phone.

Merv

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-11-10 Thread Rick Alfaro
Eric,

 

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

 

It seems you’ve solved this mystery. I was seeing the same issue with AirPlay 
and couldn’t figure out why the issue was present on my iPhone 5s and not at 
all on my iPad Mini. Once I turned audio ducking back on, AirPlay now works as 
it should, leaving VoiceOver coming out through my phone as before. Hopefully, 
Apple will fix this but at least now there is a work around for the issue.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Siu
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

Possible solution to resolve the issue:

 

Dear all, my wife, visually impaired, relies on voiceover a lot and she also 
notices this iOS8.1 bug which will stream both voiceover and music to airplay.  
The intended feature prior to iOS8.1 works well where voiceover should remain 
on iPhone speaker while music streams to airplay.  We finally find out what 
causes the problem and work out the way to resolve the problem.  Hope this 
helps other who encounter the same issue before Apple's next iOS upgrade to 
remove the bug.

 

There is a new feature called audio ducking in iOS8.1. It will duck the audio 
when an alert/message comes in.  As my wife cannot see, she has to set 
voiceover always on. When she listens to music and an alert/message comes in, 
the music will lower (i.e. duck) so that she can hear clearer the alert.  A 
very good new feature indeed.  By default, iOS8.1 has enabled this audio 
ducking.

 

One day, she suddently notes that both music and voiceover get airplayed to 
speaker.  We manage to identify the cause after a few resetting and debugging 
and find out that she has accidentally disabled audio ducking.

 

Therefore, we would like to share with you all who are disturbed by the problem:

 

Before you airplay, please enable audio ducking first (set audio ducking to 
on); voiceover will then stay on iPhone speaker and music gets airplayed.

 

It works on our iOS devices and we hope it helps you too.

 

Kind regards

Eric


On Monday, September 29, 2014 5:52:46 AM UTC+8, Sieghard wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to access...@apple.com javascript:  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-11-10 Thread Rick Alfaro
Sieghard,

 

Same here. As you may recall, I was having the same issue and turning Audio 
Ducking back on fixed it. Great discovery indeed.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

Hi Eric,

 

That is another excellent discovery. I just tried this on my 5S and was able to 
reproduce this. I usually want my media to lower in volume to hear Voiceover so 
I have audio ducking on and I don’t even have it in my rotor. But I just put it 
in and turned it off and as soon as I sent my Audible book to Sonos via Airplay 
Voiceover went with it. Turning audio ducking on while the Airplay stream is 
ongoing does not return Voiceover to the iPhone, but when I switched all audio 
back to the iPhone and then turned audio ducking on Voiceover stayed on my 
phone.

 

I will write to Apple Accessibility about this since I don’t see any sense in 
sending Voiceover to an Airplay device as it introduces an inacceptable lag of 
3 to 4 seconds so this should be fixed so that people who want to turn audio 
ducking on can do that without any other negative results.

 

There is also still the problem that after you use Airplay SIRI will not work. 
Right now that I used Airplay, SIRI will beep to listen and immediately the 
other beeps play indicating it has finished listening. Somebody else reported 
this and at this point I would have to reboot my phone. Not sure if in time 
SIRI would work again, but I am surprised this hasn’t come up more as it even 
seems to be like this without Voiceover. At least if I turn Voiceover off at 
this point it does the same thing, maybe if Voiceover is not running to begin 
with it works.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Siu
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

Possible solution to resolve the issue:

 

Dear all, my wife, visually impaired, relies on voiceover a lot and she also 
notices this iOS8.1 bug which will stream both voiceover and music to airplay.  
The intended feature prior to iOS8.1 works well where voiceover should remain 
on iPhone speaker while music streams to airplay.  We finally find out what 
causes the problem and work out the way to resolve the problem.  Hope this 
helps other who encounter the same issue before Apple's next iOS upgrade to 
remove the bug.

 

There is a new feature called audio ducking in iOS8.1. It will duck the audio 
when an alert/message comes in.  As my wife cannot see, she has to set 
voiceover always on. When she listens to music and an alert/message comes in, 
the music will lower (i.e. duck) so that she can hear clearer the alert.  A 
very good new feature indeed.  By default, iOS8.1 has enabled this audio 
ducking.

 

One day, she suddently notes that both music and voiceover get airplayed to 
speaker.  We manage to identify the cause after a few resetting and debugging 
and find out that she has accidentally disabled audio ducking.

 

Therefore, we would like to share with you all who are disturbed by the problem:

 

Before you airplay, please enable audio ducking first (set audio ducking to 
on); voiceover will then stay on iPhone speaker and music gets airplayed.

 

It works on our iOS devices and we hope it helps you too.

 

Kind regards

Eric


On Monday, September 29, 2014 5:52:46 AM UTC+8, Sieghard wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still

Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-30 Thread Don Breda
I have an iPhone 5 running the latest OS and I am not having trouble with 
airplay going to my airport express or to my pc with shareport4. Don 
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Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
I can reproduce this whenever I stream content from my iPhone 5C to my Apple 
TV. It's definitely a bug.

Cheryl

Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
 Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod 
 Touch and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also 
 appears that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of 
 the app which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control 
 Centre.
 So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 
 8.0.2 and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find 
 that Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.
 This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple 
 has indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
 introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
 time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
 is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.
 I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
 even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.
  
 OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
 with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
 responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
 Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover 
 sounds and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this 
 is definitely a bug.
 I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com about this.
  
 As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking 
 especially if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If this is happening on an iPod Touch and a 5C but not the 5S I wonder if it 
has to do with the 64 Bit processor. Maybe somebody else who has a 5S or an 
iPad Air or iPad Mini Retina could try this to see if they work correctly. Same 
would go for anybody with a 4S, 5 or another 5C.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I can reproduce this whenever I stream content from my iPhone 5C to my Apple 
TV. It's definitely a bug.

 

Cheryl




Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;

for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Merv Keck
The 5S does not work with the Apple TV under IOS 8 and Airplay.

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Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Tim Emmons
I tested yesterday and just saw this so need to look back at the thread, but my 
airplay is definitely not reliable on both an iPhone 5S, or an iPad Mini 
running 8. Not sure what's up. I'll have to look at it closer but something's 
definitely not right with it. 
On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Merv Keck blind5spar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh that will seriously suck if airplay is messed up. I will have to test it 
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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi merv,

 

When you say it doesn't work, do you mean you don't get an Airplay option at
the bottom right of the Control Centre or that it works, but Voiceover goes
to the Apple TV as well?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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The 5S does not work with the Apple TV under IOS 8 and Airplay.

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tim,

 

Could you check it again and be a bit more specific, e.g. what Airplay
device do you have and when you say not reliable do you mean the Airplay
button doesn't always show up or that Voiceover goes to your Airplay device
rather than staying on the iPhone or iPad?

I am trying to get a sense as to what exactly is going on but it's important
to specify the exact iDevice model and what Airplay device and what exactly
is working, not working or not reliable.

 

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

 

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Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I tested yesterday and just saw this so need to look back at the thread, but
my airplay is definitely not reliable on both an iPhone 5S, or an iPad Mini
running 8. Not sure what's up. I'll have to look at it closer but
something's definitely not right with it. 

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Oh that will seriously suck if airplay is messed up. I will have to test it
on the spouse's iPhone 5S if I dare, Laughs!

 

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-28 Thread Merv Keck
Oh that will seriously suck if airplay is messed up. I will have to test it
on the spouse's iPhone 5S if I dare, Laughs!

 

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Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
I've only used my iPhone 5S with my airport express, but it has worked fine. It 
seems like it took a little longer to see the airport express, but once it did, 
VoiceOver stayed on the device and audio went to the express and into my 
stereo. 
Did the iPod Touch work correctly before iOS 8?
If so, that sounds very much like another bug.
Good luck,
Richard


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 On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
 Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod 
 Touch and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also 
 appears that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of 
 the app which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control 
 Centre.
 So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 
 8.0.2 and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find 
 that Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.
 This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple 
 has indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
 introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
 time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
 is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.
 I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
 even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.
  
 OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
 with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
 responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
 Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover 
 sounds and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this 
 is definitely a bug.
 I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com about this.
  
 As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking 
 especially if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.
  
  
 Regards,
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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-28 Thread Nicki Keck
I can use my Bluetooth headset just fine, which is reported as using airplay, 
but I tried it with the Apple TV today and ever since IOS 8.0.2, I cannot do 
it.  I did it fine with 8.0.  so yes, I think we have another bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I've only used my iPhone 5S with my airport express, but it has worked fine. It 
seems like it took a little longer to see the airport express, but once it did, 
VoiceOver stayed on the device and audio went to the express and into my 
stereo. 

Did the iPod Touch work correctly before iOS 8?

If so, that sounds very much like another bug.

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

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On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richardm,

 

Yes, I am 99% certain the iPod was OK with Airplay before and that Voiceover 
stayed on the device. Anyhow, it’s OK with my 5S and I posted this because I am 
hoping somebody else with an iPod Touch Fifth Gen who has an Apple TV or 
Airport Express could test this and see if they get the same result. I would 
also be curious to know how iPads of various generations do.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I've only used my iPhone 5S with my airport express, but it has worked fine. It 
seems like it took a little longer to see the airport express, but once it did, 
VoiceOver stayed on the device and audio went to the express and into my 
stereo. 

Did the iPod Touch work correctly before iOS 8?

If so, that sounds very much like another bug.

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

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Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A bluetooth headset does not actually use Airplay even though it shows up as a 
device in the Airplay menu. True Airplay devices work even if bluetooth is 
turned off.

 

 

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Nicki Keck
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I can use my Bluetooth headset just fine, which is reported as using airplay, 
but I tried it with the Apple TV today and ever since IOS 8.0.2, I cannot do 
it.  I did it fine with 8.0.  so yes, I think we have another bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I've only used my iPhone 5S with my airport express, but it has worked fine. It 
seems like it took a little longer to see the airport express, but once it did, 
VoiceOver stayed on the device and audio went to the express and into my 
stereo. 

Did the iPod Touch work correctly before iOS 8?

If so, that sounds very much like another bug.

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

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On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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