Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
In this case it was stumbling rather than diligence. I suddenly had a flash of an idea, and said to myself: "I wonder what would happen if I press ... these keys". I tried it first in keyboard help mode and couldn't believe my ears. Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Joseph FreeTech > wrote: > > Great detective work! I definitely applaud your diligence! > > Joseph the free tech guy! > > - Original Message - > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard > > > Hi, Joseph, > > Just going backto an earlier thread to let you know that I found the escape > key equivalent for the Anker ultraslim keyboard I have. It's fn+home key. > Now I can move apps outside folders with my keyboard. Yay. :) > > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Joseph FreeTech >> wrote: >> >> On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command >> which simulates the Escape key? >> >> If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm >> considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics >> is >> actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find >> something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice >> turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm >> placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen. >> >> Joseph >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Teresa Cochran" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM >> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth >> Keyboard >> >> >> Hi, Joseph, >> >> I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a >> true >> escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process >> you >> outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in >> the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other >> keyboards, however. >> >> Thanks, >> Teresa >> >> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan >> >>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Teresa and others, >>> >>> I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving >>> apps >>> out of folders, so try this... >>> 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick >>> an >>> app. >>> (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen >>> then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) >>> 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get >>> audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. >>> 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that >>> you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which >>> contains the original folder you opened. >>> 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the >>> Home >>> button: VO+Letter H. >>> 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. >>> >>> Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something >>> else. >>> >>> Note: >>> I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that >>> using >>> this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At >>> times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and >>> easily, >>> and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do >>> using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a >>> Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or >>> she >>> is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy >>> and >>> frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this >>> frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I >>> really >>> don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, >>> but >>> if you are facing difficul
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Great detective work! I definitely applaud your diligence! Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, Joseph, Just going backto an earlier thread to let you know that I found the escape key equivalent for the Anker ultraslim keyboard I have. It's fn+home key. Now I can move apps outside folders with my keyboard. Yay. :) Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Joseph FreeTech > wrote: > > On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command > which simulates the Escape key? > > If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm > considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics > is > actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find > something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice > turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm > placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen. > > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth > Keyboard > > > Hi, Joseph, > > I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a > true > escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process > you > outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in > the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other > keyboards, however. > > Thanks, > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech >> wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa and others, >> >> I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving >> apps >> out of folders, so try this... >> 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick >> an >> app. >> (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen >> then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) >> 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get >> audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. >> 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that >> you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which >> contains the original folder you opened. >> 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the >> Home >> button: VO+Letter H. >> 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. >> >> Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something >> else. >> >> Note: >> I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that >> using >> this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At >> times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and >> easily, >> and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do >> using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a >> Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or >> she >> is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy >> and >> frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this >> frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I >> really >> don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, >> but >> if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason. >> Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going >> to >> get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you. >> >> Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update. >> >> Joseph the free tech guy! >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Teresa Cochran" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM >> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth >> Keyboard >> >> >> Hi, Mary and Johnna, >> >> The VO keys are control and option pressed together. >> >> There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. >&
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi, Joseph, Just going backto an earlier thread to let you know that I found the escape key equivalent for the Anker ultraslim keyboard I have. It's fn+home key. Now I can move apps outside folders with my keyboard. Yay. :) Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: > > On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command > which simulates the Escape key? > > If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm > considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics is > actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find > something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice > turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm > placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen. > > Joseph > > - Original Message - > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard > > > Hi, Joseph, > > I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a true > escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process you > outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in > the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other > keyboards, however. > > Thanks, > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech >> wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa and others, >> >> I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving >> apps >> out of folders, so try this... >> 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick an >> app. >> (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen >> then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) >> 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get >> audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. >> 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that >> you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which >> contains the original folder you opened. >> 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the >> Home >> button: VO+Letter H. >> 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. >> >> Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something >> else. >> >> Note: >> I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that >> using >> this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At >> times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and easily, >> and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do >> using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a >> Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or she >> is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy >> and >> frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this >> frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I >> really >> don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, but >> if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason. >> Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going to >> get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you. >> >> Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update. >> >> Joseph the free tech guy! >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Teresa Cochran" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM >> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth >> Keyboard >> >> >> Hi, Mary and Johnna, >> >> The VO keys are control and option pressed together. >> >> There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. >> >> As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a >> folder >> with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit mode. >> Your mileage may vary. >> >> Teresa >> >> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan >> >
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
The keyboard I have has an aluminum frame and is very light. It's also a fraction of an inch thick. I'd use it with a case, as the plastic keys look a bit fragile. I always use my passcode for my iPod now, since my previous one was stolen. Luckily, I'd just started using the passcode on that one, too, and it erased the content after ten attempts to use the passcode. I haven't discovered an equivalent keystroke for the escape command on this keyboard. Thanks, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: > > On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command > which simulates the Escape key? > > If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm > considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics is > actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find > something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice > turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm > placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen. > > Joseph > > - Original Message - > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard > > > Hi, Joseph, > > I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a true > escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process you > outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in > the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other > keyboards, however. > > Thanks, > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech >> wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa and others, >> >> I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving >> apps >> out of folders, so try this... >> 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick an >> app. >> (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen >> then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) >> 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get >> audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. >> 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that >> you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which >> contains the original folder you opened. >> 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the >> Home >> button: VO+Letter H. >> 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. >> >> Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something >> else. >> >> Note: >> I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that >> using >> this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At >> times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and easily, >> and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do >> using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a >> Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or she >> is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy >> and >> frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this >> frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I >> really >> don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, but >> if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason. >> Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going to >> get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you. >> >> Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update. >> >> Joseph the free tech guy! >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Teresa Cochran" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM >> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth >> Keyboard >> >> >> Hi, Mary and Johnna, >> >> The VO keys are control and option pressed together. >> >> There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. >> >> As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move ap
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
On that specific keyboard, do you know of an equivalent keyboard command which simulates the Escape key? If not too much trouble, what are the dimensions of your keyboard? I'm considering a small keyboard which I can carry with me. The Amazon basics is actually kinda small itself, about 4" X 10" X .8", but I'm looking to find something smaller. . I will say that I do like that when my iDevice turns off automatically, I need only press a key on the keyboard, and I'm placed on my home screen without having to go through the lock screen. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, Joseph, I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a true escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process you outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other keyboards, however. Thanks, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech > wrote: > > Hi Teresa and others, > > I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving > apps > out of folders, so try this... > 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick an > app. > (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen > then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) > 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get > audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. > 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that > you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which > contains the original folder you opened. > 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the > Home > button: VO+Letter H. > 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. > > Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something > else. > > Note: > I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that > using > this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At > times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and easily, > and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do > using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a > Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or she > is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy > and > frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this > frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I > really > don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, but > if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason. > Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going to > get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you. > > Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update. > > Joseph the free tech guy! > > - Original Message - > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth > Keyboard > > > Hi, Mary and Johnna, > > The VO keys are control and option pressed together. > > There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. > > As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a > folder > with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit mode. > Your mileage may vary. > > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa, >> >> I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I >> think you are a braille user, yes? >> I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps >> not >> too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take >> advantage of this method there. >> >> Mary >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> feel that a member&#x
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi, Joseph, I have an Anker ultraslim bluetooth keyboard. It doesn't seem to have a true escape key. It acts as the home key. When I press it during the process you outline below, it immediately exits edit mode and maintains my position in the folder, effectively cancelling my move process. It may work with other keyboards, however. Thanks, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: > > Hi Teresa and others, > > I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving apps > out of folders, so try this... > 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick an > app. > (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen > then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) > 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get > audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. > 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that > you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which > contains the original folder you opened. > 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the Home > button: VO+Letter H. > 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. > > Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something > else. > > Note: > I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that using > this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At > times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and easily, > and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do > using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a > Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or she > is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy and > frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this > frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I really > don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, but > if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason. > Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going to > get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you. > > Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update. > > Joseph the free tech guy! > > - Original Message - > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard > > > Hi, Mary and Johnna, > > The VO keys are control and option pressed together. > > There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. > > As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a folder > with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit mode. > Your mileage may vary. > > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa, >> >> I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I >> think you are a braille user, yes? >> I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps not >> too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take >> advantage of this method there. >> >> Mary >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> for this list can be searched at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi Teresa and others, I've not read anyone post a solution to your question regarding moving apps out of folders, so try this... 1. Navigate inside of a folder within one of your home screens and pick an app. (Using the keyboard you use arrow keys to find a folder on a Home screen then press up and down arrow to open the folder.) 2. Once the app has been chosen press VO+Shift+letter M. You should get audio feedback and a message confirming you can now move the app. 3. Press the Escape key once. You will hear the sound informing you that you've moved outside a folder. You are now on the main Home screen which contains the original folder you opened. 4. Execute the keyboard command which is the equivalent of pressing the Home button: VO+Letter H. 5. You will find the app at the bottom of the list of apps. Please let me know if this works for you or not, and we'll try something else. Note: I'm using the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard, and I have found that using this keyboard to execute various iOS related procedures is very buggy. At times I can execute many commands and procedures quite quickly and easily, and at other times I cannot get the keyboard to do what I can quickly do using the touch screen. I'm only mentioning this because someone using a Bluetooth keyboard to complete some of these tasks might believe he or she is doing something wrong, but so far it appears to be a very, very buggy and frustrating experience to use a keyboard with an iOS device. Maybe this frustration is only associated with the Amazon Basics keyboard, but I really don't think so. Hopefully the reader will have a different experience, but if you are facing difficulties, this buggy behavior might be the reason. Just trying to save some of you some hassles, but undoubtedly I'm going to get "that's not happening to me!," so all I can say is good for you. Oh yeah, I'm using an iPod Touch 5th with latest update. Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, Mary and Johnna, The VO keys are control and option pressed together. There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a folder with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit mode. Your mileage may vary. Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Teresa, > > I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I > think you are a braille user, yes? > I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps not > too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take > advantage of this method there. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you > have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives > for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi, Mary and Johnna, The VO keys are control and option pressed together. There reY isn't a way to move apps on the Braille display. As a further note, I still haven't found a way to move apps outside a folder with a keyboard. When I try pressing my home button, it cancels edit mode. Your mileage may vary. Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Teresa, > > I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I think > you are a braille user, yes? > I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps not > too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take > advantage of this method there. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
The VoiceOver key is pressing both the control and option keys together. Jenn Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Johnna Simmons wrote: > > On a Bluetooth keyboard which one which key is the voiceover key > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:25 PM, "Pinky" wrote: >> >> Hi Christopher, >> Thanks for explain the Bluetooth keyboard keys. That now makes more sense >> to me as I use a pc keyboard all the time. >> >> Ed >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Christopher Hallsworth >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:09 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard >> >> Control and option are the VoiceOver keys. Note on a PC keyboard it would be >> control and alt since the alt key simulates the option key. >> >> Christopher Hallsworth >> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu >> >>> On 02/07/2014 18:56, Pinky wrote: >>> Hi Group, >>> Can someone refresh my old feeble mind and tell me what keys are VO on >>> the Bluetooth keyboard? >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:13 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth >>> Keyboard >>> >>> Hi Teresa, >>> >>> Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same >>> type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though >>> many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going >>> to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are >>> deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for >>> possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, >>> then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well >> as cluttering the list with redundant requests. >>> >>> Am I wrong? >>> >>> If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a >>> Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into >> folders... . >>> >>> For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move >>> apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to >>> move my apps >>> around: >>> >>> 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth >>> keyboard is paired. >>> Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 >>> seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). >>> >>> 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus >>> on the app I want to move. >>> >>> 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I >>> get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. >>> >>> 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen >>> 3 to Home screen 1. >>> Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the >>> screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem >>> to reliably do the job. >>> >>> 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, >>> and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. >>> >>> 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and >>> whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear >>> anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. >>> >>> 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to >>> normal. >>> >>> 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the >>> app I moved is there. >>> >>> 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually >>> informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me >>> the app has been moved. >>> >>> 10. All done moving app. . >>> >>> For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y >>> without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try thi
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi, I am not Teresa, but I am also a Braille user, and to my knowledge, there isn't a way as of yet to move apps with a display. Jenn Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Teresa, > > I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I think > you are a braille user, yes? > I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps not > too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take > advantage of this method there. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi Teresa, I wonder if you've found a way to move apps using a braille display. I think you are a braille user, yes? I appreciate the post about the bluetooth keyboard. I find moving apps not too bad on my phone, but harder on the iPad, so will definitely take advantage of this method there. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
On a Bluetooth keyboard which one which key is the voiceover key Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:25 PM, "Pinky" wrote: > > Hi Christopher, > Thanks for explain the Bluetooth keyboard keys. That now makes more sense > to me as I use a pc keyboard all the time. > > Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Hallsworth > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:09 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard > > Control and option are the VoiceOver keys. Note on a PC keyboard it would be > control and alt since the alt key simulates the option key. > > Christopher Hallsworth > Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu > >> On 02/07/2014 18:56, Pinky wrote: >> Hi Group, >> Can someone refresh my old feeble mind and tell me what keys are VO on >> the Bluetooth keyboard? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Ed >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:13 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth >> Keyboard >> >> Hi Teresa, >> >> Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same >> type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though >> many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going >> to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are >> deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for >> possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, >> then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well > as cluttering the list with redundant requests. >> >> Am I wrong? >> >> If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a >> Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into > folders... . >> >> For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move >> apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to >> move my apps >> around: >> >> 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth >> keyboard is paired. >> Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 >> seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). >> >> 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus >> on the app I want to move. >> >> 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I >> get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. >> >> 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen >> 3 to Home screen 1. >> Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the >> screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem >> to reliably do the job. >> >> 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, >> and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. >> >> 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and >> whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear >> anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. >> >> 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to >> normal. >> >> 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the >> app I moved is there. >> >> 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually >> informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me >> the app has been moved. >> >> 10. All done moving app. . >> >> For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y >> without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... >> 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth >> keyboard is paired. >> >> 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus >> on the app I want to move. >> >> 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I >> get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. >> >> 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen >> 3 to Home screen 1. >> Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to
A Further Note, Was Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi, all, I just used this command and realized I had forgotten to mention a tricky aspect of it. Once you have used the move command the second time, the app will not appear to VO in your folder until you leave edit mode. This threw me the first couple of times I did it, but it clears up consistently. HtH, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > Hi, all, > I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, since > there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. > > Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while > moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say > "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO will > announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. It's > easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to move > from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method to work while > in edit mode. > > Once you get to a folder, simply press the VO-shift-M command again. VO will > say "opening folder" and the name of the folder. Now your app should be nside > the folder you've specified. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
List processing tips [was "Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard"]
Although there's nothing wrong with providing tips and best practices on how best to handle mail, I think it's important to point out that there are over 1,000 members of this list, and these members are using different email clients, check their mail at different times and use different practices depending on what's best for them. I only check my personal email once a day now, and I've always been in the habit of checking all of my email before I start responding. This helps cut down on duplicate messages, because once I see a question I can answer has been answered, I don't need to reply. There are others though who will respond to an email when they see it, and even though I might point out how I think my way is more efficient for the list as a whole, it's more efficient for them to deal with an email when they see it and not wait until later when they may be distracted. Things like one line messages, not changing subject lines and hijacking threads are other things that interfere with the efficient processing of list email, but it's best to leave the policing of these bad habits to the moderators. Self appointed moderators tend to generate more list traffic than they eliminate. Personally I adjust to the list I join, and I learned a while ago not to try to change a list and get everyone to adopt my reading habits. On 07/02/2014 12:20 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: LOL. Noe, you're completely wrong about the other day. I posted the link for the sake of the list and not just that person. And really, whose going to go out of their way to do what you suggested when it appears it is much easier to post a request essentially asking someone else to do it for the person interested. In short, I probably prevented a few posts asking for clarification on how to delete and enter new country characters for the iTunes store. Regarding reading messages, I'm not stating one study each message, but I'm suggesting maybe people should quickly scan them for information they might find useful now or in the near future. this simple step is very easily and quickly done and can cut down on many often unnecessary duplicate posts. Sorry, but I'm definitely Type A and am endlessly hopeful others will adopt the same mindset for simple tasks as they relate to this list. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: RE: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Joseph, You are not wrong, but maybe not everybody has time to go through every single post on this list and given the high traffic and how sometimes subjects don't always reflect how a thread can move away from the original subject one can simply miss a post here and there. Also, and I mean no offense, you just a few days ago posted a link to a English-French dictionary which Ann Roberts had posted. Ann posted the name of the app, the developer as well as the link from the French app store as she is from France. She also correctly pointed out that one only has to replace the "fr" in the link with "US" to view the same app on the US app store; in short, all the information required was there for anybody to find this app. However, you posted a message right afterwards with the US app store link which, in my opinion, also was redundant. I know you probably don't like to hear that since it appears you take any sort of criticism as a personal insult, but fair is fair and while what you said about posting he same information is true, simply posting this information doesn't really contribute either *smile*. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: fo
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Great, I'm glad this worked for you. I find it very handy. I can use the touch screen to do it, but it's a bit easier now that I have my new keyboard. :) Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Scott Rumery wrote: > > Wow! Thank you so much for this little tip. I have been wanting to know how > to use my bluetooth keyboard for moving all of my apps into folders for a > very long time. I just tried this and it works for me flawlessly. > > Scott > > > > Scott Rumery > Senior Partner > Fedora Outlier LLC > “Top Down, Better Than Excellent Consulting, Teaching and Support” > Contact Us… > URL: fedoraoutlier.com > Ph: 706-237-8101 > Toll Free: 888.958.6979 Ext. 6801 > Fax: 888.467.2162 > > Follow Us: > > Newsletter - Podcast > Twitter - Blog > Access Chat - Facebook > Google+ - LinkedIn" > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >> Hi, all, >> I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, >> since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. >> >> Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while >> moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say >> "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO >> will announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. >> It's easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to >> move from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method to work >> while in edit mode. >> >> Once you get to a folder, simply press the VO-shift-M command again. VO will >> say "opening folder" and the name of the folder. Now your app should be >> nside the folder you've specified. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan >> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mod note -was- Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
HI Joseph, While I thank you for your repeated posting, I would like to point out that Teresa's posting focused on using the keyboard throughout the moving process. This, for me at least, is not something I had been familiar with so to me at least, her posting was quite unique, and I certainly appreciate her taking time to post that info. The point here is that there is space here for all of us and for all styles of posting. Your post and Teresa's posting are both valuable in different ways and may help different listers in their differing styles of using their iDevices. So I thank you both and will continue to encourage us all to be aware that there are all sorts of people here who use their devices in all sorts of ways which we ourselves may not. So there's room for many types of information and styles of description. thanks again and do have a great day! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder creation process. 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to return the focus back to normal. 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left to access the very last app on the current Home screen. 10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)! Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Here's
RE: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi Christopher, Thanks for explain the Bluetooth keyboard keys. That now makes more sense to me as I use a pc keyboard all the time. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Control and option are the VoiceOver keys. Note on a PC keyboard it would be control and alt since the alt key simulates the option key. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 18:56, Pinky wrote: > Hi Group, > Can someone refresh my old feeble mind and tell me what keys are VO on > the Bluetooth keyboard? > > Thanks in advance > > Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:13 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth > Keyboard > > Hi Teresa, > > Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same > type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though > many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going > to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are > deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for > possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, > then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. > > Am I wrong? > > If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a > Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . > > For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move > apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to > move my apps > around: > > 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth > keyboard is paired. > Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 > seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). > > 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus > on the app I want to move. > > 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I > get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. > > 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen > 3 to Home screen 1. > Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the > screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem > to reliably do the job. > > 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, > and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. > > 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and > whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear > anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. > > 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to > normal. > > 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the > app I moved is there. > > 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually > informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me > the app has been moved. > > 10. All done moving app. . > > For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y > without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... > 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth > keyboard is paired. > > 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus > on the app I want to move. > > 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I > get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. > > 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen > 3 to Home screen 1. > Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the > screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem > to reliably do the job. > > 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two > apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of > the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the > following > command: VO+Shift+letter M. > > 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. > > 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder > creation process. > > 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times the
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Hi Joseph, You need to lighten up some and not be so critical. You have to realize that there are many people on this list and new people coming on the list. Also there are many of us old farts that don't always understand some of these things the first time we read them. So if someone post another email explaining how they do something that might just help new members on the list or old farts like me that learn very slow. I appreciate all of the example or info other people give as I might not understand everything on one person's email but then on another person's email I might understand there example better. So don't complain when someone else gives there example how they do something compared to how you do it. Just remember when you started out learning something new it took a while to understand and learn all the slang and operating systems. When you get old like me and learning new things you will know what us old farts are talking about. Also just for your info I have been learning Jaws, Zoomtext, IOS and other things as my vision has now been going down as to where I cannot see much on the screen and had to learn all these programs and operating systems on my own. So have a good day. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 12:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard LOL. Noe, you're completely wrong about the other day. I posted the link for the sake of the list and not just that person. And really, whose going to go out of their way to do what you suggested when it appears it is much easier to post a request essentially asking someone else to do it for the person interested. In short, I probably prevented a few posts asking for clarification on how to delete and enter new country characters for the iTunes store. Regarding reading messages, I'm not stating one study each message, but I'm suggesting maybe people should quickly scan them for information they might find useful now or in the near future. this simple step is very easily and quickly done and can cut down on many often unnecessary duplicate posts. Sorry, but I'm definitely Type A and am endlessly hopeful others will adopt the same mindset for simple tasks as they relate to this list. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: RE: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Joseph, You are not wrong, but maybe not everybody has time to go through every single post on this list and given the high traffic and how sometimes subjects don't always reflect how a thread can move away from the original subject one can simply miss a post here and there. Also, and I mean no offense, you just a few days ago posted a link to a English-French dictionary which Ann Roberts had posted. Ann posted the name of the app, the developer as well as the link from the French app store as she is from France. She also correctly pointed out that one only has to replace the "fr" in the link with "US" to view the same app on the US app store; in short, all the information required was there for anybody to find this app. However, you posted a message right afterwards with the US app store link which, in my opinion, also was redundant. I know you probably don't like to hear that since it appears you take any sort of criticism as a personal insult, but fair is fair and while what you said about posting he same information is true, simply posting this information doesn't really contribute either *smile*. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5
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Control and option are the VoiceOver keys. Note on a PC keyboard it would be control and alt since the alt key simulates the option key. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 18:56, Pinky wrote: Hi Group, Can someone refresh my old feeble mind and tell me what keys are VO on the Bluetooth keyboard? Thanks in advance Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder creation process. 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to return the focus back to normal. 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left to access the very last app on the current Home screen. 10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)! Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, all, I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow
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Hi Group, Can someone refresh my old feeble mind and tell me what keys are VO on the Bluetooth keyboard? Thanks in advance Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder creation process. 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to return the focus back to normal. 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left to access the very last app on the current Home screen. 10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)! Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, all, I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO will announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. It's easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to move from page to page. I haven't been able to get the secon
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Wow! Thank you so much for this little tip. I have been wanting to know how to use my bluetooth keyboard for moving all of my apps into folders for a very long time. I just tried this and it works for me flawlessly. Scott Scott Rumery Senior Partner Fedora Outlier LLC "Top Down, Better Than Excellent Consulting, Teaching and Support" Contact Us... URL: fedoraoutlier.com Ph: 706-237-8101 Toll Free: 888.958.6979 Ext. 6801 Fax: 888.467.2162 Follow Us: Newsletter - Podcast Twitter - Blog Access Chat - Facebook Google+ - LinkedIn" On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, all, > I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, since > there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. > > Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while > moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say > "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO will > announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. It's > easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to move > from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method to work while > in edit mode. > > Once you get to a folder, simply press the VO-shift-M command again. VO will > say "opening folder" and the name of the folder. Now your app should be nside > the folder you've specified. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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LOL. Noe, you're completely wrong about the other day. I posted the link for the sake of the list and not just that person. And really, whose going to go out of their way to do what you suggested when it appears it is much easier to post a request essentially asking someone else to do it for the person interested. In short, I probably prevented a few posts asking for clarification on how to delete and enter new country characters for the iTunes store. Regarding reading messages, I'm not stating one study each message, but I'm suggesting maybe people should quickly scan them for information they might find useful now or in the near future. this simple step is very easily and quickly done and can cut down on many often unnecessary duplicate posts. Sorry, but I'm definitely Type A and am endlessly hopeful others will adopt the same mindset for simple tasks as they relate to this list. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: RE: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Joseph, You are not wrong, but maybe not everybody has time to go through every single post on this list and given the high traffic and how sometimes subjects don't always reflect how a thread can move away from the original subject one can simply miss a post here and there. Also, and I mean no offense, you just a few days ago posted a link to a English-French dictionary which Ann Roberts had posted. Ann posted the name of the app, the developer as well as the link from the French app store as she is from France. She also correctly pointed out that one only has to replace the "fr" in the link with "US" to view the same app on the US app store; in short, all the information required was there for anybody to find this app. However, you posted a message right afterwards with the US app store link which, in my opinion, also was redundant. I know you probably don't like to hear that since it appears you take any sort of criticism as a personal insult, but fair is fair and while what you said about posting he same information is true, simply posting this information doesn't really contribute either *smile*. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod T
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Hi Joseph, You are not wrong, but maybe not everybody has time to go through every single post on this list and given the high traffic and how sometimes subjects don't always reflect how a thread can move away from the original subject one can simply miss a post here and there. Also, and I mean no offense, you just a few days ago posted a link to a English-French dictionary which Ann Roberts had posted. Ann posted the name of the app, the developer as well as the link from the French app store as she is from France. She also correctly pointed out that one only has to replace the "fr" in the link with "US" to view the same app on the US app store; in short, all the information required was there for anybody to find this app. However, you posted a message right afterwards with the US app store link which, in my opinion, also was redundant. I know you probably don't like to hear that since it appears you take any sort of criticism as a personal insult, but fair is fair and while what you said about posting he same information is true, simply posting this information doesn't really contribute either *smile*. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder creation process. 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to return the focus back to normal. 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left
RE: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hmmm, for those who saw her post but not yours, we appreciate it. But then, that's why there's a delete key. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 12:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder creation process. 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to return the focus back to normal. 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left to access the very last app on the current Home screen. 10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)! Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, all, I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO will announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. It's easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to move from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method
Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
Hi Teresa, Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of tutorial just a week or two ago. . It seems as though many of us are not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests. Am I wrong? If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... . For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps, when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps around: 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug). 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I swipe to right a couple of times. 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to normal. 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I moved is there. 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the app has been moved. 10. All done moving app. . For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this... 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is paired. 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on the app I want to move. 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get the message informing me that I'm moving X app. 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1. Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably do the job. 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M. 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title. 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder creation process. 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to return the focus back to normal. 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left to access the very last app on the current Home screen. 10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)! Joseph the free tech guy! - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM Subject: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard Hi, all, I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here, since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads. Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO will announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator. It's easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to move from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method to work while in edit mode. Once you get to a folder, simply press the VO-shift-M command again. VO will say "opening folder" and the name of the folder. Now your app should be nside the folder you've specified. HtH, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have a
