RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-09 Thread Carolyn
Yes, a few months backl, I was using a friend's XR. When through with 
conversation, I tapped once about an inch up. She and my daughter-in-love were 
amazed that I got it just right. 

Below the zero is end call or call. Without VoiceOver, you'd tap there once. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

 

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

 

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

 

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

 

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.

 

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

 

Hello,

 

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.

I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

 

Thank you for any help,

 

Rena

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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Now now kids,

We all make mistakes,

And yes the information was there from the answer given.

Lets all just chill out and behave,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2021 5:57 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi rena,

If your mother can see the screen then  there is a line / arrow that shows 
where / how to swipe
Across to either answer or hang up the call.
Sorry but that’s the best I can give you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2021 3:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hello,

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

Thank you for any help,

Rena
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
This may sound silly, but the reference to “light dependent” threw me at first. 
 I guess I am just not used to using all of the substitute names for sighted 
people that seem to get used.

I do agree that Richard’s information was helpful, however.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@outlook.com
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

In addition to asking how a sighted person would answer a phone call on an 
iPhone, rena also said “I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I 
changed my 6S for the SE and gave her the 6S to her.” So I thought Richard’s 
information was right on point. Plus if Brad wanted to just highlight the one 
piece of information Richard already included in his email about answering a 
call, he could have done it with something more constructive and accurate than 
“all the references in Richard’s instructions to various VoiceOver gestures are 
irrelevant.”

Just my $0.02.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread chalt...@outlook.com
In addition to asking how a sighted person would answer a phone call on an 
iPhone, rena also said “I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I 
changed my 6S for the SE and gave her the 6S to her.” So I thought Richard’s 
information was right on point. Plus if Brad wanted to just highlight the one 
piece of information Richard already included in his email about answering a 
call, he could have done it with something more constructive and accurate than 
“all the references in Richard’s instructions to various VoiceOver gestures are 
irrelevant.”

Just my $0.02.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Richard Turner
Got it.
You and I have a very different way of approaching these things, and since 
there is no absolutes here, lets just end this one.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Brad Snyder
I did not say your information was not helpful to new voiceover users. I said 
the information was irrelevant to the original question, which was how to 
answer and end a phone call on iPhone without voiceover being enabled.
When answering questions on these list, I think it's important to keep your 
focus on the question that is being asked by the original poster, and not 
include information that is irrelevant and can cause confusion.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:15, Richard Turner  wrote:


OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner  wrote:


Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”
 
Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.
 
 
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.
 
Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

 
On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread 'Nancy Badger' via VIPhone
To answer a call you push the green button near the bottom of the screen or you 
slide the button that says answer.
To end a call you push the red button near the bottom of the screen I think it 
looks like a phone receiver.
Nancy

Nancy Badger

On Feb 8, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
 
I hope that helps!
 
Take care and stay safe!
 
Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hello,
 
I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.
 
Thank you for any help,
 
Rena
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Richard Turner
OK Brad.
Of course it did because that is the kind of things people ask about when they 
have never used a phone, but I am really confused why you said none of it was 
helpful when I said almost exactly what you said about the answering and 
hanging up the phone.
I guess we will agree to disagree about what is helpful.
Or, at least, I will agree to disagree with you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.
- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”

Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Barbara Stahl
Take a look at the list again after the voiceover gestures you will see light 
dependent gesture that is a gesture you would use if voiceover were turned off

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering 
> the phone without voiceover enabled.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
> The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
> double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
> the answer button.”
>  
> Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as 
> light dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
> And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother 
> who has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
> needing to be able to explain to her mother.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
>  
> since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
> without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
> VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is 
> disabled.
>  
> Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
> locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
> one-finger slide action from left to right.
> To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call 
> button, usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, 
> and perform a one-finger tap on the button.
> That’s all there is to it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
>  
> Thank you Debby for posting this.
> Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
>  
> Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
>  
> * VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
> Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
> the end call button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
>  
> * VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger 
> triple tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
>  
> * VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
> Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
>  
> * selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light 
> Dependent Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they 
> will see a word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left 
> of the word and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the 
> word, with the options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more 
> text, touch one of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the 
> pin and when they have selected what they want, lift their finger and the 
> copy, lookup, or share options will appear.  tap the one they want and go 
> from there.
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
>  
> Hi Rena,
>  
> Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
> us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
>  
> * VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
> gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
> the end call button.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
>  
> * VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
> Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
>  
> * VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger 
> triple tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
>  
>  
> I hope that helps!
>  
> 

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Brad Snyder
Of course I did. It had a lot of stuff in it that didn't apply to answering the 
phone without voiceover enabled.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:56, Richard Turner  wrote:


Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, “* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button.”
 
Perhaps you don’t get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.
 
 
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.
 
Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -

 
On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
 
I hope that helps!
 
Take care and stay safe!
 
Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hello,
 
I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.
 
Thank you for any help,
 
Rena
-- 
The following 

RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Richard Turner
Excuse me Brad, but did you actually read what I posted?
The very first line says, "* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger 
double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on 
the answer button."

Perhaps you don't get the intended humor of referring to sighted users as light 
dependent, but I gave the exact steps you did.
And since the person asking the question had given the phone to her Mother who 
has never used an iPhone, I included the other things that she may end up 
needing to be able to explain to her mother.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard's instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That's all there is to it.

- Brad -

On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.


I hope that helps!

Take care and stay safe!

Debby
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM

Re: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Brad Snyder
since the original question was how to answer and end a call on the iPhone 
without VoiceOver, all the references in Richard’s instructions to various 
VoiceOver gestures are irrelevant, and do not apply when VoiceOver is disabled.

Simply put, to answer a call when VoiceOver is disabled, one should first 
locate the Answer call button, and either tap the button once, or perform a 
one-finger slide action from left to right.
To end a call when VoiceOver is not running, simply locate the End call button, 
usually located immediately below the Zero on the telephone keypad, and perform 
a one-finger tap on the button.
That’s all there is to it.

- Brad -


On Feb 8, 2021, at 10:09, Richard Turner  wrote:

Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.
 
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
 
* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hi Rena,
 
Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:
 
* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.
 
* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.
 
* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.
 
* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.
 
 
I hope that helps!
 
Take care and stay safe!
 
Debby
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?
 
Hello,
 
I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.
 
Thank you for any help,
 
Rena
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Richard Turner
Thank you Debby for posting this.
Here is a more complete list that I may or may not have sent before.

Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent 
Gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light Dependent Gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger long press.

* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left

* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hi Rena,

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.


I hope that helps!

Take care and stay safe!

Debby
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
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Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

Hello,

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.
I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

Thank you for any help,

Rena
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RE: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

2021-02-08 Thread Debby
Hi Rena,

 

Richard Turner, who is a frequent good source of information on the list gave 
us this information about gestures for sighted folks in October:

 

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

 

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

 

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.

 

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I answer a call and finish a call without voiceover?

 

Hello,

 

I need to know how to answer a call and finish a call without using voiceover.

I need to help my mother who never used an iPhone. I changed my 6S for the SE 
and gave her the 6S to her.

 

Thank you for any help,

 

Rena

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