Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-19 Thread Sandratomkins
I don't know if this is correct, but having shaken the phone and accepted the 
delete last typingyou just hit the delete key on the virtual keyboard and 
your last typing will disappear.
All the best, Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 18 May 2015, at 16:48, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 Have you actually tried this recently? At least for me this has not worked in 
 quite a long time. Voiceover will announce the prompt to Undo what you 
 dictated and I can double tap on Yes,but if I then actually check the text is 
 still there just the same. At least this is the case in the Messages app. I 
 haven't asked a sighted person to see if this only happens when Voiceover is 
 on, but my guess is that would be so.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Thom Spittle
 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:20 AM
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 Subject: RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri
 
 You can shake your phone and it will prompt you to undo your dictation.
 
 Thom
 
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 Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri
 
 Hello everyone.
 I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an 
 iPhone for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when I 
 am texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for me. 
 Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
 However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone 
 messes up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have 
 to ask me what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a 
 message, or email, once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make make 
 dictating easier? Is there a way to get the phone to understand words more 
 clearly?
 If so, how do I go about doing this?
 Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
 word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
 both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of 
 understand at least they sound similar.
 Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
 appreciated. Thank you so much!
 Terry
 
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RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
You can shake your phone and it will prompt you to undo your dictation.

Thom

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Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri

Hello everyone.
I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an iPhone 
for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when I am 
texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for me. 
Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone messes 
up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have to ask me 
what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a message, or email, 
once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make make dictating easier? Is 
there a way to get the phone to understand words more clearly?
If so, how do I go about doing this?
Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of understand 
at least they sound similar.
Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
appreciated. Thank you so much!
Terry

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RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
Also, if you find that siri cut you off, when she asks if you want to send it, 
say add, and she will add to your dictation.

 

Thom

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Jonathan Mosen
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Subject: Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

 

Hi Sherry, you can avoid Siri timing out by keeping the Home button held down, 
then releasing it as soon as you're finished. The added benefit of this is that 
Siri acts on your instruction or dictation the moment you're finished, so it's 
all just a bit snappier.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 13/05/2015, at 2:43 am, Sherry Wells sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:

 

I find that you dare not pause too long when dictating directly to Siri or she 
will think you are done with the message.  It helps to have no other noise 
around such as a tv or talking book.  I also hold the phone close  try to 
speak very clearly, sometimes pronouncing letters I would ordinarily not 
pronounce.  An example of this is Beth.  I would make a point to enunciate the 
th at the end of Beth .

HTH,
Sherry

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RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tom,

Have you actually tried this recently? At least for me this has not worked in 
quite a long time. Voiceover will announce the prompt to Undo what you dictated 
and I can double tap on Yes,but if I then actually check the text is still 
there just the same. At least this is the case in the Messages app. I haven't 
asked a sighted person to see if this only happens when Voiceover is on, but my 
guess is that would be so.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

You can shake your phone and it will prompt you to undo your dictation.

Thom

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Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri

Hello everyone.
I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an iPhone 
for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when I am 
texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for me. 
Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone messes 
up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have to ask me 
what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a message, or email, 
once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make make dictating easier? Is 
there a way to get the phone to understand words more clearly?
If so, how do I go about doing this?
Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of understand 
at least they sound similar.
Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
appreciated. Thank you so much!
Terry

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RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-18 Thread Thom Spittle
Hi Sieghard,
What is different is that the text is still there, but it is all selected. So, 
a tap of the delete button will get rid of it all.
Let me know if it works that way for you.

Thom 
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

Hi Tom,

Have you actually tried this recently? At least for me this has not worked in 
quite a long time. Voiceover will announce the prompt to Undo what you dictated 
and I can double tap on Yes,but if I then actually check the text is still 
there just the same. At least this is the case in the Messages app. I haven't 
asked a sighted person to see if this only happens when Voiceover is on, but my 
guess is that would be so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I improve dictation with Siri

You can shake your phone and it will prompt you to undo your dictation.

Thom

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Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri

Hello everyone.
I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an iPhone 
for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when I am 
texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for me. 
Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone messes 
up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have to ask me 
what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a message, or email, 
once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make make dictating easier? Is 
there a way to get the phone to understand words more clearly?
If so, how do I go about doing this?
Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of understand 
at least they sound similar.
Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
appreciated. Thank you so much!
Terry

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-13 Thread Keith B.
By all means, enunciate as clearly as possible. One night, I was dictating 
a text to the chair of our church board, and I began by saying Thank you 
very much. I thought I had enunciated clearly, but I received a smiley 
face back from the guy I sent the message to saying, I didn't think you 
used that language! Sometimes dictation can be humorous!


On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:42:48 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

 Hi Sherry, you can avoid Siri timing out by keeping the Home button held 
 down, then releasing it as soon as you're finished. The added benefit of 
 this is that Siri acts on your instruction or dictation the moment you're 
 finished, so it's all just a bit snappier.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
  
 On 13/05/2015, at 2:43 am, Sherry Wells sherryw...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I find that you dare not pause too long when dictating directly to Siri or 
 she will think you are done with the message.  It helps to have no other 
 noise around such as a tv or talking book.  I also hold the phone close  
 try to speak very clearly, sometimes pronouncing letters I would ordinarily 
 not pronounce.  An example of this is Beth.  I would make a point to 
 enunciate the th at the end of Beth .

 HTH,
 Sherry

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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-12 Thread RobH.
There are a few keywords you can add for punctuation, but you have to say 
them right on the end of the last word, or it gets written as another word. 
Things like Comma, Dot, Question, Exclaim.

I say is that YouComma  GoodDot.
That looks silly in real writing,  but sending a text reading like it is 
too.  I say the word and the comma in one breath, then pause as you do, and 
continue.  This work most the time. But practice practice, and check before 
you send of course.

BobH.
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Hello everyone.
I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an 
iPhone for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when 
I am texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for 
me. Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone 
messes up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have 
to ask me what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a 
message, or email, once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make 
make dictating easier? Is there a way to get the phone to understand words 
more clearly?
If so, how do I go about doing this?
Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of 
understand at least they sound similar.
Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
appreciated. Thank you so much!
Terry

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-12 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Also, it should be noted that in an edit text field you don't necessarily have 
to find and press the dictate button to start dictation. While in an edit 
field, double tap anywhere with two fingers to start dictation and again to 
stop it when you're done.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



 On May 12, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Terry-Ann Saurmann tsaurm...@access4less.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 In addition to using the dictation feature that Siri has to offer, the IOS 
 devices also have a Dictate function, that can be used when in the text 
 editing field of a message or an email, just to the left of the space 
 character, near the bottom left of the screen, there is a Dictate button. 
 Using a single-finger double tap will open the microphone, at which time you 
 begin your dictation.  When finished, you close the mic with a two-finger 
 double tap.  I believe this feature allows for thirty seconds of speech at a 
 time, at which point the microphone closes.  However, you can do the 
 single-finger double tap to start dictating again.  You can also include 
 punctuation as part of what you are speaking, just as you would if you were 
 typing.  This is much preferred for the reader of your text or email, so that 
 the words do not all run together.  If you want to begin a new line of text, 
 just say, new line.
 
 Whether you are using this dictate feature or that of Siri, once you have 
 completed your dictation, you want to place your finger in the middle of the 
 screen to highlight the message itself, at which point you will want to do a 
 single-finger double tap to move the cursor to the top of the screen.  Set 
 your rotor to words to read word by word, or to characters to read one 
 character at a time.  To read ahead one character or word at a time, flick 
 one finger repeatedly downward.  To go back one character or word at a time, 
 flick one finger up toward the top of the screen.  When making corrections, 
 you want to put the cursor to the right (or below) the character you want to 
 erase and then press the delete key which is located toward the bottom, 
 right-hand side of the screen, just below the letter L.  When inserting text, 
 I place it below the last correct character, and if necessary, I put a 
 space ahead of the character(s) if I am replacing an entire word.  You can 
 select strings of characters for cutting, copying, or deleting text all at 
 once, but that is for another time.
 
 Again with either the dictate function, or if using Siri, when dictating your 
 text, you want to do so in a normal speaking voice, speaking clearly, without 
 over enunciating or separating your words, so that they do not become 
 distorted.  However, I find that the names of people are the words that are 
 the most frequently misunderstood.
 
 Finally, in case you are not already aware of this, the text editing field in 
 an email is located several flicks to the right of the Send button, whereas 
 the textthe edit field of a  text message, is found one flick to the left of 
 the send button .  I hope this helps.  Terry
 
 - Original Message - From: princessterr...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 10:28 PM
 Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri
 
 
 Hello everyone.
 I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an 
 iPhone for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when I 
 am texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for me. 
 Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
 However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone 
 messes up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have 
 to ask me what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a 
 message, or email, once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make make 
 dictating easier? Is there a way to get the phone to understand words more 
 clearly?
 If so, how do I go about doing this?
 Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
 word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
 both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of 
 understand at least they sound similar.
 Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
 appreciated. Thank you so much!
 Terry
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-12 Thread Alan J Paganelli
I've noticed with dictation that using the proper voice enflection works 
wonders.  For example, at the end of a sentense, with your voice, pause 
before starting the next one.  When asking a question, make sure your voice 
sounds like your asking a question and of course, at the end of a sentense 
say the word period or at the end of a question say the word question mark. 
The software keeps getting better but you have to do your part as well. 
I've also noticed that many people mumble.  Perhaps they do it because they 
want greater privacy or they don't want people to think their nuts? grin 
Dictation does require a bit of practice.


HTH!





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-Original Message- 
From: RobH.

Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 1:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

There are a few keywords you can add for punctuation, but you have to say
them right on the end of the last word, or it gets written as another word.
Things like Comma, Dot, Question, Exclaim.

I say is that YouComma  GoodDot.
That looks silly in real writing,  but sending a text reading like it is
too.  I say the word and the comma in one breath, then pause as you do, and
continue.  This work most the time. But practice practice, and check before
you send of course.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: princessterr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 4:28 AM
Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri


Hello everyone.
I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an
iPhone for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when
I am texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for
me. Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone
messes up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have
to ask me what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a
message, or email, once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make
make dictating easier? Is there a way to get the phone to understand words
more clearly?
If so, how do I go about doing this?
Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that
word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath,
both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of
understand at least they sound similar.
Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much
appreciated. Thank you so much!
Terry

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-12 Thread Sherry Wells
I find that you dare not pause too long when dictating directly to Siri or 
she will think you are done with the message.  It helps to have no other 
noise around such as a tv or talking book.  I also hold the phone close  
try to speak very clearly, sometimes pronouncing letters I would ordinarily 
not pronounce.  An example of this is Beth.  I would make a point to 
enunciate the th at the end of Beth .


HTH,
Sherry

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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-12 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sherry, you can avoid Siri timing out by keeping the Home button held down, 
then releasing it as soon as you're finished. The added benefit of this is that 
Siri acts on your instruction or dictation the moment you're finished, so it's 
all just a bit snappier.
Jonathan Mosen
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 On 13/05/2015, at 2:43 am, Sherry Wells sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find that you dare not pause too long when dictating directly to Siri or 
 she will think you are done with the message.  It helps to have no other 
 noise around such as a tv or talking book.  I also hold the phone close  try 
 to speak very clearly, sometimes pronouncing letters I would ordinarily not 
 pronounce.  An example of this is Beth.  I would make a point to enunciate 
 the th at the end of Beth .
 
 HTH,
 Sherry
 
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Re: How do I improve dictation with Siri

2015-05-11 Thread Terry-Ann Saurmann

Hi Terry,

In addition to using the dictation feature that Siri has to offer, the IOS 
devices also have a Dictate function, that can be used when in the text 
editing field of a message or an email, just to the left of the space 
character, near the bottom left of the screen, there is a Dictate button. 
Using a single-finger double tap will open the microphone, at which time you 
begin your dictation.  When finished, you close the mic with a two-finger 
double tap.  I believe this feature allows for thirty seconds of speech at a 
time, at which point the microphone closes.  However, you can do the 
single-finger double tap to start dictating again.  You can also include 
punctuation as part of what you are speaking, just as you would if you were 
typing.  This is much preferred for the reader of your text or email, so 
that the words do not all run together.  If you want to begin a new line of 
text, just say, new line.


Whether you are using this dictate feature or that of Siri, once you have 
completed your dictation, you want to place your finger in the middle of the 
screen to highlight the message itself, at which point you will want to do a 
single-finger double tap to move the cursor to the top of the screen.  Set 
your rotor to words to read word by word, or to characters to read one 
character at a time.  To read ahead one character or word at a time, flick 
one finger repeatedly downward.  To go back one character or word at a time, 
flick one finger up toward the top of the screen.  When making corrections, 
you want to put the cursor to the right (or below) the character you want to 
erase and then press the delete key which is located toward the bottom, 
right-hand side of the screen, just below the letter L.  When inserting 
text, I place it below the last correct character, and if necessary, I put a 
space ahead of the character(s) if I am replacing an entire word.  You can 
select strings of characters for cutting, copying, or deleting text all at 
once, but that is for another time.


Again with either the dictate function, or if using Siri, when dictating 
your text, you want to do so in a normal speaking voice, speaking clearly, 
without over enunciating or separating your words, so that they do not 
become distorted.  However, I find that the names of people are the words 
that are the most frequently misunderstood.


Finally, in case you are not already aware of this, the text editing field 
in an email is located several flicks to the right of the Send button, 
whereas the textthe edit field of a  text message, is found one flick to the 
left of the send button .  I hope this helps.  Terry


- Original Message - 
From: princessterr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 10:28 PM
Subject: How do I improve dictation with Siri


Hello everyone.
I was wondering, is there a way to improve dictation with Siri, using an 
iPhone for S? I love my phone, and I love to use dictation. Especially when 
I am texting. I am rather slow at typing, so the dictation works better for 
me. Although, I do want to improve my typing skills.
However, a lot of times when I can like to dictate something, the phone 
messes up terribly! Sometimes it misses a word up so badly, that people have 
to ask me what I meant. The problem is that I don't know how to fix a 
message, or email, once it is messed up. Is there possibly a way to make 
make dictating easier? Is there a way to get the phone to understand words 
more clearly?

If so, how do I go about doing this?
Today, it called my friend Beth, Eric. I don't know how it came up with that 
word. I was stumbling either. Sometimes it will call her things like, Bath, 
both, booze, and other similar things like that. This I can sort of 
understand at least they sound similar.
Any help, or Dutch and suggestions with this, it would be very much 
appreciated. Thank you so much!

Terry

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