Re: I OS6

2012-07-03 Thread jeffry miller
if you pay the $99.to  Apple then you can test any beta software, that 
comes out on i devices or macs i believe.


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Re: Moderator important message - was Re: I OS6

2012-07-03 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello. The part that is not allowed is talking about having the beta and 
disclosing things which are not supposed to be disclosed due to the NDA the 
developers must sign. Of course everyone will speculate as to what is going on 
and what will be offered with the new beta. However nothing is concrete and if 
someone is discussing what is actually available in the beta and their 
experiences with it, I do not think this is technically allowed by apple and so 
will not be allowed here either. I hope this clears things up.


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On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:56 AM, "Carol Pearson"  
wrote:

> Sorry,
> 
> Posted a question about 2 mins ago which I thought was probably within 
> limits.  Please let me know if not and, anyway, if nobody answers it, I'll 
> leave it.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Carol P
>  Original Message 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:00 AM
> Subject: Moderator important message - was Re: I OS6
> 
>> Hello everyone. I would like to ask that this thread
>> discussion regarding the legalities of the beta builds be
>> terminated at once. It is okay to speculate and discuss
>> new features in the new iOS version of coarse. However
>> discussing how to illegally obtain a copy of a beta if
>> you are not a developer is not on topic for this list. If
>> somebody obtains a copy and they are not sure whether it
>> is legal or not, they can always contact Apple just to be
>> sure. Everyone who has contributed to this discussion,
>> with good intentions, should also stop. Anything
>> regarding this list should be handled directly to me or
>> Cara. Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Sent from my brain
>> http://www.raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: @rau47
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Danielle McCullough
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> > I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback.
>> > I didn't know
>> > it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and
>> > that isn't
>> > illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough
>> > time talking
>> > about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's
>> > wrong with wanting
>> > ios6 to be as good as it can be?
>> >
>> > On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this
>> >> conversation be taken
>> >> off list, as it's getting dangerously close to
>> >> violating list guidelines, as
>> >> well as possible legalities.
>> >> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> >> Of Danielle McCullough
>> >> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: I OS6
>> >>
>> >> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I
>> >> paid eleven dollars to
>> >> get my udid activated.
>> >>
>> >> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>> >>
>> >> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Danielle,
>> >>>
>> >>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid
>> >>> the $99 to setup a
>> >> developer account you should have access to Apple's
>> >> feedback system.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but
>> >>>> obviously cannot give feedback, so was wondering if
>> >>>> somebody else could?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best wishes,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Danielle
>> >>>>
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Re: Moderator important message - was Re: I OS6

2012-07-03 Thread Carol Pearson

Sorry,

Posted a question about 2 mins ago which I thought was probably within 
limits.  Please let me know if not and, anyway, if nobody answers it, I'll 
leave it.


Thanks.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:00 AM
Subject: Moderator important message - was Re: I OS6


Hello everyone. I would like to ask that this thread
discussion regarding the legalities of the beta builds be
terminated at once. It is okay to speculate and discuss
new features in the new iOS version of coarse. However
discussing how to illegally obtain a copy of a beta if
you are not a developer is not on topic for this list. If
somebody obtains a copy and they are not sure whether it
is legal or not, they can always contact Apple just to be
sure. Everyone who has contributed to this discussion,
with good intentions, should also stop. Anything
regarding this list should be handled directly to me or
Cara. Thank you.


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On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Danielle McCullough
 wrote:

> I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback.
> I didn't know
> it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and
> that isn't
> illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough
> time talking
> about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's
> wrong with wanting
> ios6 to be as good as it can be?
>
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this
>> conversation be taken
>> off list, as it's getting dangerously close to
>> violating list guidelines, as
>> well as possible legalities.
>> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>>
>> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I
>> paid eleven dollars to
>> get my udid activated.
>>
>> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>>
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Danielle,
>>>
>>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid
>>> the $99 to setup a
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's
>> feedback system.
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>>
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but
>>>> obviously cannot give feedback, so was wondering if
>>>> somebody else could?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Danielle
>>>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-03 Thread Carol Pearson
Am I right in thinking that you can only join the Developer Programme if 
you're going to develop apps yourself, or does this include those who want 
to BETA test, if you get what I mean?


Carol P
 Original Message 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: I OS6


Danielle,

What you are not understanding is you paying $11 to
someone for a copy of iOS 6 is illegal. Everyone wants
iOS 6 to be the best it can, but people sign non
disclosure agreements which is effectively a legally
binding contract between that person and APple or
whatever company the NDA is with. Installing iOS 6 is not
a jail break of any kind. If you pay the $99 and join the
developer program you can provide all the feedback you
wish. What you did was give money to someone and you are
violating the law just as the person who provided you a
copy of iOS 6.

On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback.
> I didn't know
> it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and
> that isn't
> illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough
> time talking
> about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's
> wrong with wanting
> ios6 to be as good as it can be?
>
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this
>> conversation be taken
>> off list, as it's getting dangerously close to
>> violating list guidelines, as
>> well as possible legalities.
>> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>>
>> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I
>> paid eleven dollars to
>> get my udid activated.
>>
>> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>>
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Danielle,
>>>
>>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid
>>> the $99 to setup a
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's
>> feedback system.
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>>
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but
>>>> obviously cannot give feedback, so was wondering if
>>>> somebody else could?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Danielle
>>>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-03 Thread Carol Pearson

therwise? Thought you had to be a developer!
 Original Message 
From: "Danielle McCullough"
 To:
 Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:50
AM Subject: Re: I OS6


I am not a developer, and I have it.

On 2 Jul 2012, at 04:28 AM, Joseph Lee
 wrote: 


Hi,
For betas: you need to be a developer registered with
Apple to actually load 
the beta firmware to the device, since you'll get new
beta notices directly 
from Apple (in my case). There are some reports on how
iOS6 works, so I'd 
kindly advise that you check those out. As for our list,
I think Raul or 
Cara would have the final words on that, so we'll see
what they say. 
Cheers,

Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Danielle McCullough

Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I OS6

I'm not

On 2 Jul 2012, at 12:43 AM, Jesus Hernandez
 wrote: 


if you are a registered developer you should be able to
do so. 
On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough

 wrote:



Hi,

Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?

I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but
obviously cannot give feedback, so was wondering if
somebody else could? 


Best wishes,

Danielle

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Moderator important message - was Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello everyone. I would like to ask that this thread discussion regarding the 
legalities of the beta builds be terminated at once. It is okay to speculate 
and discuss new features in the new iOS version of coarse. However discussing 
how to illegally obtain a copy of a beta if you are not a developer is not on 
topic for this list. If somebody obtains a copy and they are not sure whether 
it is legal or not, they can always contact Apple just to be sure. Everyone who 
has contributed to this discussion, with good intentions, should also stop. 
Anything regarding this list should be handled directly to me or Cara. Thank 
you.


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On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Danielle McCullough 
 wrote:

> I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback. I didn't know
> it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and that isn't
> illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough time talking
> about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's wrong with wanting
> ios6 to be as good as it can be?
> 
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be taken
>> off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list guidelines, as
>> well as possible legalities.
>> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>> 
>> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven dollars to
>> get my udid activated.
>> 
>> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>> 
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Danielle,
>>> 
>>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>> 
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Danielle
>>>> 
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Scott Howell
Danielle, you should not offer to help others break the law. You have had 
sufficient warning. You really should understand what you are getting yourself 
into before you start giving people money. Not very wise and there is no one 
authorized to sell such files to anyone. Only Apple can provide developer 
builds of iOS 6.
Maybe you don't take this stuff seriously, but you should.

On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven
> dollars to get my udid activated.
> 
> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
> 
> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
> 
>> Danielle,
>> 
>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a 
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>> 
>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>> 
>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Danielle
>>> 
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RE: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Daniel Miller
Well said.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I OS6

Danielle,

What you are not understanding is you paying $11 to someone for a copy of
iOS 6 is illegal. Everyone wants iOS 6 to be the best it can, but people
sign non disclosure agreements which is effectively a legally binding
contract between that person and APple or whatever company the NDA is with.
Installing iOS 6 is not a jail break of any kind. If you pay the $99 and
join the developer program you can provide all the feedback you wish. What
you did was give money to someone and you are violating the law just as the
person who provided you a copy of iOS 6.

On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback. I didn't know 
> it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and that isn't 
> illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough time talking 
> about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's wrong with wanting
> ios6 to be as good as it can be?
> 
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be 
>> taken off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list 
>> guidelines, as well as possible legalities.
>> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>> 
>> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven 
>> dollars to get my udid activated.
>> 
>> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>> 
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Danielle,
>>> 
>>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to 
>>> setup a
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>> 
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot 
>>>> give feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Danielle
>>>> 
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Scott Howell
Danielle,

What you are not understanding is you paying $11 to someone for a copy of iOS 6 
is illegal. Everyone wants iOS 6 to be the best it can, but people sign non 
disclosure agreements which is effectively a legally binding contract between 
that person and APple or whatever company the NDA is with. Installing iOS 6 is 
not a jail break of any kind. If you pay the $99 and join the developer program 
you can provide all the feedback you wish. What you did was give money to 
someone and you are violating the law just as the person who provided you a 
copy of iOS 6.

On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback. I didn't know
> it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and that isn't
> illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough time talking
> about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's wrong with wanting
> ios6 to be as good as it can be?
> 
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be taken
>> off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list guidelines, as
>> well as possible legalities.
>> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>> 
>> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven dollars to
>> get my udid activated.
>> 
>> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>> 
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Danielle,
>>> 
>>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>> 
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Danielle
>>>> 
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Danielle McCullough
Should be if it's not, lol!
Appologies

On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:25 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> No, the way you obtained your UDID activation is extremely illegal, or
> should be if it's not.
> Also, as people have said, you can't give feedback unless you're a
> registered apple developer. Not to mention, disclosing any information about
> iOS 6 before it's released to the public is a violation of apples
> Non-disclosure agreement.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Danielle McCullough
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I OS6
>
> I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback. I didn't know it was
> illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and that isn't illegal, or if it
> is, you lot certainly spend enough time talking about it for it not to seem
> like it matters. What's wrong with wanting
> ios6 to be as good as it can be?
>
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be
>> taken off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list
>> guidelines, as well as possible legalities.
>> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>>
>> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven
>> dollars to get my udid activated.
>>
>> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>>
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>
>>> Danielle,
>>>
>>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to
>>> setup a
>> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>>
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Danielle
>>>>
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RE: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Daniel Miller
No, the way you obtained your UDID activation is extremely illegal, or
should be if it's not.
Also, as people have said, you can't give feedback unless you're a
registered apple developer. Not to mention, disclosing any information about
iOS 6 before it's released to the public is a violation of apples
Non-disclosure agreement.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Danielle McCullough
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I OS6

I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback. I didn't know it was
illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and that isn't illegal, or if it
is, you lot certainly spend enough time talking about it for it not to seem
like it matters. What's wrong with wanting
ios6 to be as good as it can be?

On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be 
> taken off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list 
> guidelines, as well as possible legalities.
> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Danielle McCullough
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I OS6
>
> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven 
> dollars to get my udid activated.
>
> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>
> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>
>> Danielle,
>>
>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to 
>> setup a
> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>
>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give 
>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Danielle McCullough
I wasn't asking people to judge, just submit feedback. I didn't know
it was illegal, just seems a bit like a jailbreak and that isn't
illegal, or if it is, you lot certainly spend enough time talking
about it for it not to seem like it matters. What's wrong with wanting
ios6 to be as good as it can be?

On 3 Jul 2012, at 01:07 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be taken
> off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list guidelines, as
> well as possible legalities.
> I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Danielle McCullough
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I OS6
>
> I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven dollars to
> get my udid activated.
>
> If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know
>
> On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>
>> Danielle,
>>
>> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a
> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>
>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>>
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RE: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

I'm not a moderator, but I'm kindly asking that this conversation be taken
off list, as it's getting dangerously close to violating list guidelines, as
well as possible legalities.
I'm sure Cara and Raul would agree 100%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Danielle McCullough
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I OS6

I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven dollars to
get my udid activated.

If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know

On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:

> Danielle,
>
> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a
developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>
>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give 
>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Danielle
>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Danielle McCullough
I didn't do that. Someone gave me the ipsw file and I paid eleven
dollars to get my udid activated.

If anyone would like help doing it too, let me know

On 2 Jul 2012, at 11:29 AM, Scott Howell  wrote:

> Danielle,
>
> Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a 
> developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.
>
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>
>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Danielle
>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Scott Howell
Danielle,

You then obtained it illegally and whoever provided you the copy has violated 
APple's NDA. Apple does not conduct public betas. You therefore will not be 
allowed to submit any feedback.  

On Jul 2, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> I am not a developer, and I have it.
> 
> On 2 Jul 2012, at 04:28 AM, Joseph Lee  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> For betas: you need to be a developer registered with Apple to actually load
>> the beta firmware to the device, since you'll get new beta notices directly
>> from Apple (in my case). There are some reports on how iOS6 works, so I'd
>> kindly advise that you check those out. As for our list, I think Raul or
>> Cara would have the final words on that, so we'll see what they say.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Danielle McCullough
>> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I OS6
>> 
>> I'm not
>> 
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 12:43 AM, Jesus Hernandez  wrote:
>> 
>>> if you are a registered developer you should be able to do so.
>>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>> 
>>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Danielle
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Scott Howell
Danielle,

Why are you not able to provide feedback? If you paid the $99 to setup a 
developer account you should have access to Apple's feedback system.

On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
> 
> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Danielle
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-02 Thread Danielle McCullough
I am not a developer, and I have it.

On 2 Jul 2012, at 04:28 AM, Joseph Lee  wrote:

> Hi,
> For betas: you need to be a developer registered with Apple to actually load
> the beta firmware to the device, since you'll get new beta notices directly
> from Apple (in my case). There are some reports on how iOS6 works, so I'd
> kindly advise that you check those out. As for our list, I think Raul or
> Cara would have the final words on that, so we'll see what they say.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Danielle McCullough
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I OS6
>
> I'm not
>
> On 2 Jul 2012, at 12:43 AM, Jesus Hernandez  wrote:
>
>> if you are a registered developer you should be able to do so.
>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough
>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>>
>>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>>
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RE: I OS6

2012-07-01 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
For betas: you need to be a developer registered with Apple to actually load
the beta firmware to the device, since you'll get new beta notices directly
from Apple (in my case). There are some reports on how iOS6 works, so I'd
kindly advise that you check those out. As for our list, I think Raul or
Cara would have the final words on that, so we'll see what they say.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
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Of Danielle McCullough
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I OS6

I'm not

On 2 Jul 2012, at 12:43 AM, Jesus Hernandez  wrote:

> if you are a registered developer you should be able to do so.
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough
 wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>
>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give 
>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Danielle
>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-01 Thread Danielle McCullough
I'm not

On 2 Jul 2012, at 12:43 AM, Jesus Hernandez  wrote:

> if you are a registered developer you should be able to do so.
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough 
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>>
>> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
>> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Danielle
>>
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-01 Thread Danielle McCullough
Yeh that's fine

On 2 Jul 2012, at 12:43 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Danielle,
>
> For the sake of not violating any list guidelines when it comes to talking
> about confidential information, I can email you off list.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Danielle McCullough
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:24 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: I OS6
>
> Hi,
>
> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
>
> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
> feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Danielle
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Re: I OS6

2012-07-01 Thread Jesus Hernandez
if you are a registered developer you should be able to do so.
On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Danielle McCullough 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?
> 
> I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
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> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Danielle
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RE: I OS6

2012-07-01 Thread Daniel Miller
Danielle,

For the sake of not violating any list guidelines when it comes to talking
about confidential information, I can email you off list.


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Of Danielle McCullough
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: I OS6

Hi,

Is anybody Baiter testing iOS 6?

I have activated my UDID and I'm using it, but obviously cannot give
feedback, so was wondering if somebody else could?

Best wishes,

Danielle

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