Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

2013-06-19 Thread Shane clark
Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to let all of you know, that you definitely can still create ring 
tones just from using iTunes, and iTunes alone. Sieghart, Sent some steps I 
think not only to the list but also to me directly, and the one thing that I 
just found out Is that when following the steps, you have to make sure that the 
hide Extensions for known file types check box is unchecked, turn that off, and 
then when you rename your file, you will get the question are you sure you want 
to rename the file to an M4 ar, Go ahead and change that file to an M4 are and 
then press enter, and the song should start playing which then will import it 
into iTunes.
I also emailedSieghart off list and told him, but I want to tell this on the 
list as well, I was not doubting what he was saying, or that it couldn't be 
done. I was just having some difficulty on my end doing it. The steps that I 
got, initially from Applevis.com. Were very precise steps, but nothing about 
turning off the hide extensions for known file types was mentioned, so I did 
not know that you had to do this untilSieghart Said something.
It's great to have him as well as many others on this list, to share their 
knowledge with us on different matters such as this.
So again, you can still make ring tones strictly through using iTunes. 
Shane.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 In iTunes, press control-comma to open the preferences interface. The first 
 tab is the thgeneral which one can tab through all of the options to check 
 or uncheck. These are the folders that one can have in iTunes list. Now, when 
 one creates a ring tone, the folder will be one for tones. HTH.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Can you tell me exactly where you are looking for the folder?
 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?
 
 I don't have a tones or ring tones folder.  I tried creating one and
 putting the new ringtone in it but itunes didn't recognize it.  Can you give
 a pointer as to what to do?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kimberly
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?
 
 Thanks Sieghard, these are essentially the instructions I shared. I couldn't
 imagine losing the capability to create ringtones this way. I'm glad it's
 still possible.   
 
 Sent from Kimber's iPhone
 
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, SiegharWeitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kimber and Shane,
 
 There is absolutely no change as far as creating ringtones in iTunes. 
 I am using the latest version of iTunes and just tried it and it took 
 me all of 2 minutes to create a ringtone, copy it into my Tones folder 
 and sync it to my phone. In any case, I am not sure why this has to do 
 with Apple Accessibility since it's a standard iTunes feature. Below 
 is a listing of the basic steps and I follow this with a more detailed 
 set of instructions I posted on the list a few times before:
 
 1. Find the song you want
 2. Press Control+I for Get Information, arrow to the options tab, 
 tab to start and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds.
 3. Right click on your song and select Create AAC Version
 4. Right click on the newly created 40 second version of the song and 
 select Show in Windows Explorer
 5. Cut the song with Control+X, then go to your Tones or Ringtones 
 folder in iTunes Media which in turn in in i/tunes which in turn 
 should be in your Music or My Music folder.
 6. Paste the song with Control+V
 7. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder 
 Options and the View tab, make sure Hide extensions for known file types
 is Off.
 8. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R.
 9. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this 
 automatically adds it to your Tones library.
 10. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you 
 sync selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync 
 your phone.
 That's it.
 
 Below are the more detailed instructions. This is for Windows, not 
 sure what would be different if you use one of the inferior Mac 
 computers
 *smile*.
 
 Creating Ringtones from songs using iTune for Windows:
 
 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music tab in 
 iTunes.
 
 2. Right click and select Get Info. Go to the Options tab, tab 
 down to Start Time and check it by pressing the space bar. Tab again 
 and specify the Start Time.
 usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the 
 song starts very slow you may 

RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

2013-06-17 Thread rhs
It is a folder in the itunes media folder.  The file has an m4r extention.

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

Hi,

Can you tell me exactly where you are looking for the folder?


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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

I don't have a tones or ring tones folder.  I tried creating one and
putting the new ringtone in it but itunes didn't recognize it.  Can you give
a pointer as to what to do?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

Thanks Sieghard, these are essentially the instructions I shared. I couldn't
imagine losing the capability to create ringtones this way. I'm glad it's
still possible.   

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, SiegharWeitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Kimber and Shane,
 
 There is absolutely no change as far as creating ringtones in iTunes. 
 I am using the latest version of iTunes and just tried it and it took 
 me all of 2 minutes to create a ringtone, copy it into my Tones folder 
 and sync it to my phone. In any case, I am not sure why this has to do 
 with Apple Accessibility since it's a standard iTunes feature. Below 
 is a listing of the basic steps and I follow this with a more detailed 
 set of instructions I posted on the list a few times before:
 
 1. Find the song you want
 2. Press Control+I for Get Information, arrow to the options tab, 
 tab to start and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds.
 3. Right click on your song and select Create AAC Version
 4. Right click on the newly created 40 second version of the song and 
 select Show in Windows Explorer
 5. Cut the song with Control+X, then go to your Tones or Ringtones 
 folder in iTunes Media which in turn in in i/tunes which in turn 
 should be in your Music or My Music folder.
 6. Paste the song with Control+V
 7. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder 
 Options and the View tab, make sure Hide extensions for known file types
 is Off.
 8. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R.
 9. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this 
 automatically adds it to your Tones library.
 10. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you 
 sync selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync 
 your phone.
 That's it.
 
 Below are the more detailed instructions. This is for Windows, not 
 sure what would be different if you use one of the inferior Mac 
 computers
*smile*.
 
 Creating Ringtones from songs using iTune for Windows:
 
 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music tab in 
 iTunes.
 
 2. Right click and select Get Info. Go to the Options tab, tab 
 down to Start Time and check it by pressing the space bar. Tab again 
 and specify the Start Time.
 usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the 
 song starts very slow you may want to find a good spot a few seconds 
 from the beginning where you start the ringtone.
 tab one more time to go to Stop Time, check it also and tab to the 
 edit field, specify the Stop Time. This will ensure that iTunes will 
 play the song starting from the specified Start Time to the Stop Time.
 Make sure that the stop time doesn't exceed the start time by more 
 than 40 seconds which is the maximum length of a ringtone.
 Click OK.
 Press enter to play the song, it will only play the part of the song 
 you selected and you can see if it sounds good where it starts and stops.
 If it stops in the middle of a note or word you can make it a few 
 seconds shorter to find a better place.
 I usually set the stop time to 39 or 40 seconds and then make it 
 shorter to make it sound good.
 The start time is displayed as 0:00 where the first 0 means 0 minutes, 
 then a : and then the 00 after that is for the seconds.
 The stop time by default has the ending time of the song, for example
 3:23.46 where the first 3 is the number of minutes, then the :, then 
 the next 2 digits are the seconds and then a . and the last number 
 or numbers is I guess maybe in one tenth of a second or even one 
 hundreds, not quite sure, but it's a very small increment.
 
 Note:
 Instead of right clicking on the song you can also use the Windows 
 Application Key (some call it the Context menu Key, it's on the right 
 side of the space bar next to the Control key). Even easier is to use 
 the keyboard shortcut Control+I and this should work in 

RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

2013-06-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I haven't done a new iTunes install in a while, but I thought the Tones or
Ringtones folder was there by default.

Anyhow, it really shouldn't matter, if you create that folder and put a
ringtone or a few ringtones in it, then go to iTunes and go to File and
Add Folder to Library this should work no problem. You could also try to
put your ringtones into the Automatically Add to iTunes folder, then open
iTunes and see if that creates a Tones or Ringtones folder and moves your
ringtones into it.

Please write to me off-list at siegh...@live.ca if you still can't get this
to work and I'll walk you through it on the phone or via Skype since this
really should work and once you get the hang of it it's not hard.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

It is a folder in the itunes media folder.  The file has an m4r extention.

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

Hi,

Can you tell me exactly where you are looking for the folder?


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Of r...@q.com
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

I don't have a tones or ring tones folder.  I tried creating one and
putting the new ringtone in it but itunes didn't recognize it.  Can you give
a pointer as to what to do?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

Thanks Sieghard, these are essentially the instructions I shared. I couldn't
imagine losing the capability to create ringtones this way. I'm glad it's
still possible.   

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, SiegharWeitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Kimber and Shane,
 
 There is absolutely no change as far as creating ringtones in iTunes. 
 I am using the latest version of iTunes and just tried it and it took 
 me all of 2 minutes to create a ringtone, copy it into my Tones folder 
 and sync it to my phone. In any case, I am not sure why this has to do 
 with Apple Accessibility since it's a standard iTunes feature. Below 
 is a listing of the basic steps and I follow this with a more detailed 
 set of instructions I posted on the list a few times before:
 
 1. Find the song you want
 2. Press Control+I for Get Information, arrow to the options tab, 
 tab to start and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds.
 3. Right click on your song and select Create AAC Version
 4. Right click on the newly created 40 second version of the song and 
 select Show in Windows Explorer
 5. Cut the song with Control+X, then go to your Tones or Ringtones 
 folder in iTunes Media which in turn in in i/tunes which in turn 
 should be in your Music or My Music folder.
 6. Paste the song with Control+V
 7. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder 
 Options and the View tab, make sure Hide extensions for known file types
 is Off.
 8. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R.
 9. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this 
 automatically adds it to your Tones library.
 10. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you 
 sync selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync 
 your phone.
 That's it.
 
 Below are the more detailed instructions. This is for Windows, not 
 sure what would be different if you use one of the inferior Mac 
 computers
*smile*.
 
 Creating Ringtones from songs using iTune for Windows:
 
 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music tab in 
 iTunes.
 
 2. Right click and select Get Info. Go to the Options tab, tab 
 down to Start Time and check it by pressing the space bar. Tab again 
 and specify the Start Time.
 usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the 
 song starts very slow you may want to find a good spot a few seconds 
 from the beginning where you start the ringtone.
 tab one more time to go to Stop Time, check it also and tab to the 
 edit field, specify the Stop Time. This will ensure that iTunes will 
 play the song starting from the specified Start Time to the Stop Time.
 Make sure that the stop time doesn't exceed the start time by more 
 than 40 seconds which is the maximum length of a ringtone.
 Click OK.
 Press enter to play the song, it will only play the part of the song 
 you selected and you can see if it sounds good 

Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

2013-06-16 Thread Kimberly
Thanks Sieghard, these are essentially the instructions I shared. I couldn't 
imagine losing the capability to create ringtones this way. I'm glad it's still 
possible.   

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, SiegharWeitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Kimber and Shane,
 
 There is absolutely no change as far as creating ringtones in iTunes. I am
 using the latest version of iTunes and just tried it and it took me all of 2
 minutes to create a ringtone, copy it into my Tones folder and sync it to my
 phone. In any case, I am not sure why this has to do with Apple
 Accessibility since it's a standard iTunes feature. Below is a listing of
 the basic steps and I follow this with a more detailed set of instructions I
 posted on the list a few times before:
 
 1. Find the song you want
 2. Press Control+I for Get Information, arrow to the options tab, tab to
 start and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds.
 3. Right click on your song and select Create AAC Version
 4. Right click on the newly created 40 second version of the song and select
 Show in Windows Explorer
 5. Cut the song with Control+X, then go to your Tones or Ringtones folder in
 iTunes Media which in turn in in i/tunes which in turn should be in your
 Music or My Music folder.
 6. Paste the song with Control+V
 7. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder
 Options and the View tab, make sure Hide extensions for known file types
 is Off.
 8. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R.
 9. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this
 automatically adds it to your Tones library.
 10. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you sync
 selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync your
 phone.
 That's it.
 
 Below are the more detailed instructions. This is for Windows, not sure what
 would be different if you use one of the inferior Mac computers *smile*.
 
 Creating Ringtones from songs using iTune for Windows:
 
 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music tab in
 iTunes.
 
 2. Right click and select Get Info. Go to the Options tab, tab down to
 Start Time and check it by pressing the space bar. Tab again and specify
 the Start Time.
 usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the song
 starts very slow you may want to find a good spot a few seconds from the
 beginning where you start the ringtone.
 tab one more time to go to Stop Time, check it also and tab to the edit
 field, specify the Stop Time. This will ensure that iTunes will play the
 song starting from the specified Start Time to the Stop Time.
 Make sure that the stop time doesn't exceed the start time by more than 40
 seconds which is the maximum length of a ringtone.
 Click OK.
 Press enter to play the song, it will only play the part of the song you
 selected and you can see if it sounds good where it starts and stops.
 If it stops in the middle of a note or word you can make it a few seconds
 shorter to find a better place.
 I usually set the stop time to 39 or 40 seconds and then make it shorter to
 make it sound good.
 The start time is displayed as 0:00 where the first 0 means 0 minutes, then
 a : and then the 00 after that is for the seconds.
 The stop time by default has the ending time of the song, for example
 3:23.46 where the first 3 is the number of minutes, then the :, then the
 next 2 digits are the seconds and then a . and the last number or numbers
 is I guess maybe in one tenth of a second or even one hundreds, not quite
 sure, but it's a very small increment.
 
 Note:
 Instead of right clicking on the song you can also use the Windows
 Application Key (some call it the Context menu Key, it's on the right side
 of the space bar next to the Control key). Even easier is to use the
 keyboard shortcut Control+I and this should work in Windows XP as well as
 Windows 7.
 
 3. Right click, press the Context Menu Key or press Control+I when you are
 on the selected song and select Creat AAC Version from the context menu.
 Almost immediately you will hear that tri-tone iTunes makes when it's
 finished doing something.
 This will create an AAC version of the song for only the section of the song
 you specified.
 This new short song will appear right underneath the original song in your
 list of songs, so you just have to down arrow once to find it.
 Press enter to play it and to make sure it is as you want it.
 you can now go back to the original and, in the Options Tab, uncheck the
 start and stop times so that it will play normally again.
 
 Note:
 If you don't see a Create AAC Version option when you right click on the
 song, go to Edit, Preferences and in the General tab click on Import
 settings, the shortcut is Alt+O.
 Make sure that the AAC encoder settings are selected, if MP3 is selected as
 the encoder you have to change it to AAC.
 I also suggest you check this anyways and make sure you have iTunes Plus
 selected 

RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

2013-06-16 Thread rhs
I don't have a tones or ring tones folder.  I tried creating one and
putting the new ringtone in it but itunes didn't recognize it.  Can you give
a pointer as to what to do?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

Thanks Sieghard, these are essentially the instructions I shared. I couldn't
imagine losing the capability to create ringtones this way. I'm glad it's
still possible.   

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, SiegharWeitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Kimber and Shane,
 
 There is absolutely no change as far as creating ringtones in iTunes. 
 I am using the latest version of iTunes and just tried it and it took 
 me all of 2 minutes to create a ringtone, copy it into my Tones folder 
 and sync it to my phone. In any case, I am not sure why this has to do 
 with Apple Accessibility since it's a standard iTunes feature. Below 
 is a listing of the basic steps and I follow this with a more detailed 
 set of instructions I posted on the list a few times before:
 
 1. Find the song you want
 2. Press Control+I for Get Information, arrow to the options tab, 
 tab to start and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds.
 3. Right click on your song and select Create AAC Version
 4. Right click on the newly created 40 second version of the song and 
 select Show in Windows Explorer
 5. Cut the song with Control+X, then go to your Tones or Ringtones 
 folder in iTunes Media which in turn in in i/tunes which in turn 
 should be in your Music or My Music folder.
 6. Paste the song with Control+V
 7. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder 
 Options and the View tab, make sure Hide extensions for known file types
 is Off.
 8. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R.
 9. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this 
 automatically adds it to your Tones library.
 10. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you 
 sync selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync 
 your phone.
 That's it.
 
 Below are the more detailed instructions. This is for Windows, not 
 sure what would be different if you use one of the inferior Mac computers
*smile*.
 
 Creating Ringtones from songs using iTune for Windows:
 
 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music tab in 
 iTunes.
 
 2. Right click and select Get Info. Go to the Options tab, tab 
 down to Start Time and check it by pressing the space bar. Tab again 
 and specify the Start Time.
 usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the 
 song starts very slow you may want to find a good spot a few seconds 
 from the beginning where you start the ringtone.
 tab one more time to go to Stop Time, check it also and tab to the 
 edit field, specify the Stop Time. This will ensure that iTunes will 
 play the song starting from the specified Start Time to the Stop Time.
 Make sure that the stop time doesn't exceed the start time by more 
 than 40 seconds which is the maximum length of a ringtone.
 Click OK.
 Press enter to play the song, it will only play the part of the song 
 you selected and you can see if it sounds good where it starts and stops.
 If it stops in the middle of a note or word you can make it a few 
 seconds shorter to find a better place.
 I usually set the stop time to 39 or 40 seconds and then make it 
 shorter to make it sound good.
 The start time is displayed as 0:00 where the first 0 means 0 minutes, 
 then a : and then the 00 after that is for the seconds.
 The stop time by default has the ending time of the song, for example
 3:23.46 where the first 3 is the number of minutes, then the :, then 
 the next 2 digits are the seconds and then a . and the last number 
 or numbers is I guess maybe in one tenth of a second or even one 
 hundreds, not quite sure, but it's a very small increment.
 
 Note:
 Instead of right clicking on the song you can also use the Windows 
 Application Key (some call it the Context menu Key, it's on the right 
 side of the space bar next to the Control key). Even easier is to use 
 the keyboard shortcut Control+I and this should work in Windows XP 
 as well as Windows 7.
 
 3. Right click, press the Context Menu Key or press Control+I when you 
 are on the selected song and select Creat AAC Version from the context
menu.
 Almost immediately you will hear that tri-tone iTunes makes when it's 
 finished doing something.
 This will create an AAC version of the song for only the section of 
 the song you specified.
 This new short song will appear right underneath the original song in 
 your list of songs, so you just have to down arrow once to find it.
 Press enter to play it and to make sure it is as you want it.
 you can now go back to the original and, in the Options Tab, 

RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

2013-06-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

Can you tell me exactly where you are looking for the folder?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of r...@q.com
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

I don't have a tones or ring tones folder.  I tried creating one and
putting the new ringtone in it but itunes didn't recognize it.  Can you give
a pointer as to what to do?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is it still possible to create ringtones in iTunes?

Thanks Sieghard, these are essentially the instructions I shared. I couldn't
imagine losing the capability to create ringtones this way. I'm glad it's
still possible.   

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, SiegharWeitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Kimber and Shane,
 
 There is absolutely no change as far as creating ringtones in iTunes. 
 I am using the latest version of iTunes and just tried it and it took 
 me all of 2 minutes to create a ringtone, copy it into my Tones folder 
 and sync it to my phone. In any case, I am not sure why this has to do 
 with Apple Accessibility since it's a standard iTunes feature. Below 
 is a listing of the basic steps and I follow this with a more detailed 
 set of instructions I posted on the list a few times before:
 
 1. Find the song you want
 2. Press Control+I for Get Information, arrow to the options tab, 
 tab to start and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds.
 3. Right click on your song and select Create AAC Version
 4. Right click on the newly created 40 second version of the song and 
 select Show in Windows Explorer
 5. Cut the song with Control+X, then go to your Tones or Ringtones 
 folder in iTunes Media which in turn in in i/tunes which in turn 
 should be in your Music or My Music folder.
 6. Paste the song with Control+V
 7. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder 
 Options and the View tab, make sure Hide extensions for known file types
 is Off.
 8. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R.
 9. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this 
 automatically adds it to your Tones library.
 10. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you 
 sync selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync 
 your phone.
 That's it.
 
 Below are the more detailed instructions. This is for Windows, not 
 sure what would be different if you use one of the inferior Mac 
 computers
*smile*.
 
 Creating Ringtones from songs using iTune for Windows:
 
 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music tab in 
 iTunes.
 
 2. Right click and select Get Info. Go to the Options tab, tab 
 down to Start Time and check it by pressing the space bar. Tab again 
 and specify the Start Time.
 usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the 
 song starts very slow you may want to find a good spot a few seconds 
 from the beginning where you start the ringtone.
 tab one more time to go to Stop Time, check it also and tab to the 
 edit field, specify the Stop Time. This will ensure that iTunes will 
 play the song starting from the specified Start Time to the Stop Time.
 Make sure that the stop time doesn't exceed the start time by more 
 than 40 seconds which is the maximum length of a ringtone.
 Click OK.
 Press enter to play the song, it will only play the part of the song 
 you selected and you can see if it sounds good where it starts and stops.
 If it stops in the middle of a note or word you can make it a few 
 seconds shorter to find a better place.
 I usually set the stop time to 39 or 40 seconds and then make it 
 shorter to make it sound good.
 The start time is displayed as 0:00 where the first 0 means 0 minutes, 
 then a : and then the 00 after that is for the seconds.
 The stop time by default has the ending time of the song, for example
 3:23.46 where the first 3 is the number of minutes, then the :, then 
 the next 2 digits are the seconds and then a . and the last number 
 or numbers is I guess maybe in one tenth of a second or even one 
 hundreds, not quite sure, but it's a very small increment.
 
 Note:
 Instead of right clicking on the song you can also use the Windows 
 Application Key (some call it the Context menu Key, it's on the right 
 side of the space bar next to the Control key). Even easier is to use 
 the keyboard shortcut Control+I and this should work in Windows XP 
 as well as Windows 7.
 
 3. Right click, press the Context Menu Key or press Control+I when you 
 are on the selected song and select Creat AAC Version from the 
 context
menu.
 Almost immediately you will hear that tri-tone iTunes makes when it's 
 finished doing something.
 This will create an AAC version of the song