Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-10-05 Thread Flor Lynch
You'd get better accessibility with Firefox there. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 2:21 AM
  Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.


  Hi all.  I'm totally frustrated right now and feel like the 
most computer stupid human on earth.  For some reason I cannot get to the 
buttons that sound so simple in the below message.  I'd like to go no-mail for 
the next two weeks so I don't come back to 10,000 or so emails.  I'm able to 
sign onto google groups, locate the viphone group.  Then when I hit B for 
button I see search, new topic, a button that's not labeled, mark all as read 
button, filters button menu, button menu twice more, save my changes button, 
keep my original settings button, and a toggle button. I've tried using both 
the JAWS cursor and the virtual PC cursor. I'm running JAWS 15 and internet 
explorer on a windows 7 machine. Nowhere do I see a my settings button.  Can 
someone please tell me how to do this.  I've had a bad computer day at work, 
and now I'm having one at home.  Not fair when I'm trying to get organized to 
go get a new dog guide.  You can write me off list at paujor4...@gmail.com if 
you want.  Computer life just shouldn't be this hard.

  God bless!Thanks in advance. 

  Paula and the soon to be retired Babe

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:49 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.

   

  Hi Debbie,

   

  Setting Viphone to No Mail is not so difficult and it saves you from having 
to unsubscribe and resubscribe since if you resubscribe you will first be on 
moderation again until Raul or Cara can get you fully approved again. Go to the 
following link:

   

  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone

   

  Find the sign-in link and sign in with your Gmail credentials.

   

  Use your browser's quick navigation keys, in Jaws it's "b" for button you 
mostly want. Find the "My Settings" button and activate it.

  Now find the "Membership and email settings" button and activate it.

  When I just did this, I then have a button, Jaws actually calls these "button 
menu" which says this:

  Send me an email for every new message (about 64 per day)

  This is because I have it said to send me individual emails, if you have 
yours set to Digest mode it would give you that option.

  Activate this button and from the list select "Don't send email updates".

  Then don't forget to find the Save buton at the bottom of the screen and 
activate it.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie Worstman
  Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Vacation mode for this list.

   

  I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I can 
find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to get 
all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list

  Thank you for any help in advance.

   

   

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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not using Windows at the moment, but using Orca and Firefox, the 
instructions below basically work for me. I can use the 'B' key in Orca 
to jump to the My Settings push button. It's right above where the 
message from the list start, so maybe if you can tab down to the first 
message in the list, you can arrow up or shift-tab to get back to the My 
Settings button. Actually, when I click on the link for this group, my 
focus starts at the first message in the list, so I can just start 
arrowing up or back tabbing from their. Sorry, I'm not of more help.


On 10/03/2014 08:21 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:

 Hi all.  I'm totally frustrated right now and feel like
the most computer stupid human on earth.  For some reason I cannot get
to the buttons that sound so simple in the below message.  I'd like to
go no-mail for the next two weeks so I don't come back to 10,000 or so
emails.  I'm able to sign onto google groups, locate the viphone group.
Then when I hit B for button I see search, new topic, a button that's
not labeled, mark all as read button, filters button menu, button menu
twice more, save my changes button, keep my original settings button,
and a toggle button. I've tried using both the JAWS cursor and the
virtual PC cursor. I'm running JAWS 15 and internet explorer on a
windows 7 machine. Nowhere do I see a my settings button.  Can someone
please tell me how to do this.  I've had a bad computer day at work, and
now I'm having one at home.  Not fair when I'm trying to get organized
to go get a new dog guide.  You can write me off list at
paujor4...@gmail.com <mailto:paujor4...@gmail.com> if you want.
Computer life just shouldn't be this hard.

God bless!Thanks in advance.

Paula and the soon to be retired Babe

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 9:49 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Vacation mode for this list.

Hi Debbie,

Setting Viphone to No Mail is not so difficult and it saves you from
having to unsubscribe and resubscribe since if you resubscribe you will
first be on moderation again until Raul or Cara can get you fully
approved again. Go to the following link:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/viphone>

Find the sign-in link and sign in with your Gmail credentials.

Use your browser's quick navigation keys, in Jaws it's "b" for button
you mostly want. Find the "My Settings" button and activate it.

Now find the "Membership and email settings" button and activate it.

When I just did this, I then have a button, Jaws actually calls these
"button menu" which says this:

*Send me an email for every new message (about 64 per day)*

This is because I have it said to send me individual emails, if you have
yours set to Digest mode it would give you that option.

Activate this button and from the list select "Don't send email updates".

Then don't forget to find the Save buton at the bottom of the screen and
activate it.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Debbie Worstman
*Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:20 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Vacation mode for this list.

I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I
can find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to
have to get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode
on this list

Thank you for any help in advance.

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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-10-04 Thread RobH.
Like I said elsewhere,  it can't be done by an email like many good list 
manager services like Mailman servers;  which only leaves unsubbing. 
Drastic,  but it's easy enough to get back on after. You can do that by 
email easily at least.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul and Paula Jordan" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 2:21 AM
Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.


Hi all.  I'm totally frustrated right now and feel like the
most computer stupid human on earth.  For some reason I cannot get to the
buttons that sound so simple in the below message.  I'd like to go no-mail
for the next two weeks so I don't come back to 10,000 or so emails.  I'm
able to sign onto google groups, locate the viphone group.  Then when I hit
B for button I see search, new topic, a button that's not labeled, mark all
as read button, filters button menu, button menu twice more, save my changes
button, keep my original settings button, and a toggle button. I've tried
using both the JAWS cursor and the virtual PC cursor. I'm running JAWS 15
and internet explorer on a windows 7 machine. Nowhere do I see a my settings
button.  Can someone please tell me how to do this.  I've had a bad computer
day at work, and now I'm having one at home.  Not fair when I'm trying to
get organized to go get a new dog guide.  You can write me off list at
paujor4...@gmail.com if you want.  Computer life just shouldn't be this
hard.

God bless!Thanks in advance.

Paula and the soon to be retired Babe



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.



Hi Debbie,



Setting Viphone to No Mail is not so difficult and it saves you from having
to unsubscribe and resubscribe since if you resubscribe you will first be on
moderation again until Raul or Cara can get you fully approved again. Go to
the following link:



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone



Find the sign-in link and sign in with your Gmail credentials.



Use your browser's quick navigation keys, in Jaws it's "b" for button you
mostly want. Find the "My Settings" button and activate it.

Now find the "Membership and email settings" button and activate it.

When I just did this, I then have a button, Jaws actually calls these
"button menu" which says this:

Send me an email for every new message (about 64 per day)

This is because I have it said to send me individual emails, if you have
yours set to Digest mode it would give you that option.

Activate this button and from the list select "Don't send email updates".

Then don't forget to find the Save buton at the bottom of the screen and
activate it.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Debbie Worstman
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vacation mode for this list.



I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I can
find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to
get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list

Thank you for any help in advance.





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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-10-03 Thread RobH.
Well,  not sure if Google has a bot mode where you can do this via emails; 
now that would be useful for many of us, and I know other list providers do 
it as a matter of course.  so if any of the admin know about this, 
PlEaSe!!!   let us know, hah?

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul and Paula Jordan" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 2:21 AM
Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.


Hi all.  I'm totally frustrated right now and feel like the
most computer stupid human on earth.  For some reason I cannot get to the
buttons that sound so simple in the below message.  I'd like to go no-mail
for the next two weeks so I don't come back to 10,000 or so emails.  I'm
able to sign onto google groups, locate the viphone group.  Then when I hit
B for button I see search, new topic, a button that's not labeled, mark all
as read button, filters button menu, button menu twice more, save my changes
button, keep my original settings button, and a toggle button. I've tried
using both the JAWS cursor and the virtual PC cursor. I'm running JAWS 15
and internet explorer on a windows 7 machine. Nowhere do I see a my settings
button.  Can someone please tell me how to do this.  I've had a bad computer
day at work, and now I'm having one at home.  Not fair when I'm trying to
get organized to go get a new dog guide.  You can write me off list at
paujor4...@gmail.com if you want.  Computer life just shouldn't be this
hard.

God bless!Thanks in advance.

Paula and the soon to be retired Babe



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.



Hi Debbie,



Setting Viphone to No Mail is not so difficult and it saves you from having
to unsubscribe and resubscribe since if you resubscribe you will first be on
moderation again until Raul or Cara can get you fully approved again. Go to
the following link:



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone



Find the sign-in link and sign in with your Gmail credentials.



Use your browser's quick navigation keys, in Jaws it's "b" for button you
mostly want. Find the "My Settings" button and activate it.

Now find the "Membership and email settings" button and activate it.

When I just did this, I then have a button, Jaws actually calls these
"button menu" which says this:

Send me an email for every new message (about 64 per day)

This is because I have it said to send me individual emails, if you have
yours set to Digest mode it would give you that option.

Activate this button and from the list select "Don't send email updates".

Then don't forget to find the Save buton at the bottom of the screen and
activate it.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Debbie Worstman
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vacation mode for this list.



I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I can
find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to
get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list

Thank you for any help in advance.





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RE: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-10-03 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi all.  I'm totally frustrated right now and feel like the
most computer stupid human on earth.  For some reason I cannot get to the
buttons that sound so simple in the below message.  I'd like to go no-mail
for the next two weeks so I don't come back to 10,000 or so emails.  I'm
able to sign onto google groups, locate the viphone group.  Then when I hit
B for button I see search, new topic, a button that's not labeled, mark all
as read button, filters button menu, button menu twice more, save my changes
button, keep my original settings button, and a toggle button. I've tried
using both the JAWS cursor and the virtual PC cursor. I'm running JAWS 15
and internet explorer on a windows 7 machine. Nowhere do I see a my settings
button.  Can someone please tell me how to do this.  I've had a bad computer
day at work, and now I'm having one at home.  Not fair when I'm trying to
get organized to go get a new dog guide.  You can write me off list at
paujor4...@gmail.com if you want.  Computer life just shouldn't be this
hard.

God bless!Thanks in advance. 

Paula and the soon to be retired Babe

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Vacation mode for this list.

 

Hi Debbie,

 

Setting Viphone to No Mail is not so difficult and it saves you from having
to unsubscribe and resubscribe since if you resubscribe you will first be on
moderation again until Raul or Cara can get you fully approved again. Go to
the following link:

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone

 

Find the sign-in link and sign in with your Gmail credentials.

 

Use your browser's quick navigation keys, in Jaws it's "b" for button you
mostly want. Find the "My Settings" button and activate it.

Now find the "Membership and email settings" button and activate it.

When I just did this, I then have a button, Jaws actually calls these
"button menu" which says this:

Send me an email for every new message (about 64 per day)

This is because I have it said to send me individual emails, if you have
yours set to Digest mode it would give you that option.

Activate this button and from the list select "Don't send email updates".

Then don't forget to find the Save buton at the bottom of the screen and
activate it.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Debbie Worstman
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vacation mode for this list.

 

I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I can
find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to
get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list

Thank you for any help in advance.

 

 

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RE: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-04-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Paul,

 

The list owner is Cara Quinn and the second moderator is Raul Gallegos,
below are their email addresses:

 

Raul Gallegos: r...@raulgallegos.com <mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com> 

Cara Quinn: modelc...@gmail.com <mailto:modelc...@gmail.com> 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Roberts
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vacation mode for this list.

 

HI all,

 

Wel, I've been trying to find out who the moderrator, or moderators of this
list are but without success.

 

Nor do my mesages seem to be coming through my inbox from this list, yet
others from other lists, plus any personal emials, seem to be coming through
without any difficulty.

 

Please could someone tell me who the moderator is as I have an issue wiht an
email, sent to htis list on Monday afternoon.

 

Do hope someone can help.

 

Thanks 

 

Paul. 

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From: Agent086b <mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com>  

To: viphone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:49 AM

Subject: Re: Vacation mode for this list.

 

Hello Debbie, 

I have not seen an answer to your question. What I do each time I go away I
un-subscribe and the re-subscribe when I return. There is a way to do it
online but I haven't had much luck with this in the past.

Max

 

On 25 Apr 2014, at 10:20 am, Debbie Worstman mailto:debsphil...@gmail.com> > wrote:





I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I can
find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to
get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list

Thank you for any help in advance.

 

 

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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Roberts
HI all,

Wel, I've been trying to find out who the moderrator, or moderators of this 
list are but without success.

Nor do my mesages seem to be coming through my inbox from this list, yet others 
from other lists, plus any personal emials, seem to be coming through without 
any difficulty.

Please could someone tell me who the moderator is as I have an issue wiht an 
email, sent to htis list on Monday afternoon.

Do hope someone can help.

Thanks 

Paul. 
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  To: viphone 
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Vacation mode for this list.


  Hello Debbie,
  I have not seen an answer to your question. What I do each time I go away I 
un-subscribe and the re-subscribe when I return. There is a way to do it online 
but I haven't had much luck with this in the past.
  Max


  On 25 Apr 2014, at 10:20 am, Debbie Worstman  wrote:


I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I 
can find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to 
get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list
Thank you for any help in advance.




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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-04-29 Thread taylorarndt99
At the bottom of the thread you can unsubscribe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:07 AM, "RobH."  wrote:
> 
> Good thinking,  so appropriate addresses below.
> Keep this message for future reference.
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> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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> RobH.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Agent086b" 
> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Vacation mode for this list.
> 
> 
> Hello Debbie,
> I have not seen an answer to your question. What I do each time I go away I 
> un-subscribe and the re-subscribe when I return. There is a way to do it 
> online but I haven't had much luck with this in the past.
> Max
> 
>> On 25 Apr 2014, at 10:20 am, Debbie Worstman  wrote:
>> 
>> I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I 
>> can find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have 
>> to get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this 
>> list
>> Thank you for any help in advance.
>> 
>> 
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RE: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-04-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Debbie,

 

Setting Viphone to No Mail is not so difficult and it saves you from having
to unsubscribe and resubscribe since if you resubscribe you will first be on
moderation again until Raul or Cara can get you fully approved again. Go to
the following link:

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone

 

Find the sign-in link and sign in with your Gmail credentials.

 

Use your browser's quick navigation keys, in Jaws it's "b" for button you
mostly want. Find the "My Settings" button and activate it.

Now find the "Membership and email settings" button and activate it.

When I just did this, I then have a button, Jaws actually calls these
"button menu" which says this:

Send me an email for every new message (about 64 per day)

This is because I have it said to send me individual emails, if you have
yours set to Digest mode it would give you that option.

Activate this button and from the list select "Don't send email updates".

Then don't forget to find the Save buton at the bottom of the screen and
activate it.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Debbie Worstman
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vacation mode for this list.

 

I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I can
find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have to
get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this list

Thank you for any help in advance.

 

 

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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-04-25 Thread RobH.
Good thinking,  so appropriate addresses below.
Keep this message for future reference.

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To: "viphone" 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: Vacation mode for this list.


Hello Debbie,
I have not seen an answer to your question. What I do each time I go away I 
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online but I haven't had much luck with this in the past.
Max

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> I am writing to the list, because there is not a moderator E-mail that I 
> can find. I will be out of the country for a week, and do not want to have 
> to get all the mail, I was wondering if we can go on vacation mode on this 
> list
> Thank you for any help in advance.
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Re: Vacation mode for this list.

2014-04-24 Thread Agent086b
Hello Debbie,
I have not seen an answer to your question. What I do each time I go away I 
un-subscribe and the re-subscribe when I return. There is a way to do it online 
but I haven't had much luck with this in the past.
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