RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
And sold by aph. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much The Refreshabraille is made by Baum. On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:56 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello, > > Vario and Super Vario are not the same as RefreshaBraille. They are the same as HumanWare,. HumanWare and Hims appear to be the companies that are consistently having the most problems with their braille displays and Apple products. Both Hims and HumanWare are running their displays from Windows CE V6.x, an OS platform that is now three years out of date and no longer being supported by Microsoft. In other words, out of date platforms are being used to try and support more up-to-date bluetooth driver stacks - a recipe for eventual complications; especially when one considers the fact that this OS was initially used for its built-in driver stacks. The problem for Hims and HumanWare is that MS does not allow any accessibility hook / plug-ins for Windows Mobile platforms after Windows CE V6.x. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16/09/2012, at 10:03, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi Scot. >> The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes it suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but people won't not discuss that problem. >> >> Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try that, and come back to you. >> >> I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and super vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any problems at all. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner : >> >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> Which braille display? >>> >>> Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the >>> sequence you turn things off and on. >>> Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, >>> lock the phone, then turn off the display. >>> When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on >>> the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds >>> before turning on the display. >>> Then, they should pair up again automatically. >>> >>> I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there >>> were problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been >>> mentioned much >>> >>> Hi Sieghard. >>> >>> The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a >>> braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not >>> really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : >>> >>>> Hi Annie, >>>> >>>> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >>>> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >>>> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have >>>> that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big >>>> Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so >>>> either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device >>>> manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has >>>> really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping >>>> at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which >>>> does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all >>>> Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >>>> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good >>>> reviews, the few I
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
The Refreshabraille is made by Baum. On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:56 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello, > > Vario and Super Vario are not the same as RefreshaBraille. They are the same > as HumanWare,. HumanWare and Hims appear to be the companies that are > consistently having the most problems with their braille displays and Apple > products. Both Hims and HumanWare are running their displays from Windows CE > V6.x, an OS platform that is now three years out of date and no longer being > supported by Microsoft. In other words, out of date platforms are being used > to try and support more up-to-date bluetooth driver stacks - a recipe for > eventual complications; especially when one considers the fact that this OS > was initially used for its built-in driver stacks. The problem for Hims and > HumanWare is that MS does not allow any accessibility hook / plug-ins for > Windows Mobile platforms after Windows CE V6.x. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16/09/2012, at 10:03, Annie Skov Nielsen > wrote: > >> Hi Scot. >> The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes >> it suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it >> connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but >> people won't not discuss that problem. >> >> Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try >> that, and come back to you. >> >> I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because >> some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and >> super vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any >> problems at all. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner >> : >> >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> Which braille display? >>> >>> Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence >>> you turn things off and on. >>> Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the >>> phone, then turn off the display. >>> When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the >>> display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before >>> turning on the display. >>> Then, they should pair up again automatically. >>> >>> I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were >>> problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Annie Skov Nielsen >>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much >>> >>> Hi Sieghard. >>> >>> The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille >>> display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the >>> phone has the problem or the braille display. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : >>> >>>> Hi Annie, >>>> >>>> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >>>> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >>>> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >>>> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >>>> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a >>>> big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >>>> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >>>> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >>>> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >>>> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find >>>> extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >>>> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >>>> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >>>> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >>>>
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hello, Vario and Super Vario are not the same as RefreshaBraille. They are the same as HumanWare,. HumanWare and Hims appear to be the companies that are consistently having the most problems with their braille displays and Apple products. Both Hims and HumanWare are running their displays from Windows CE V6.x, an OS platform that is now three years out of date and no longer being supported by Microsoft. In other words, out of date platforms are being used to try and support more up-to-date bluetooth driver stacks - a recipe for eventual complications; especially when one considers the fact that this OS was initially used for its built-in driver stacks. The problem for Hims and HumanWare is that MS does not allow any accessibility hook / plug-ins for Windows Mobile platforms after Windows CE V6.x. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 16/09/2012, at 10:03, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Scot. > The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes it > suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it > connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but > people won't not discuss that problem. > > Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try > that, and come back to you. > > I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because > some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and super > vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any problems > at all. > > Best regards Annie. > > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner > : > >> Hi Annie, >> >> Which braille display? >> >> Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence >> you turn things off and on. >> Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the >> phone, then turn off the display. >> When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the >> display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before >> turning on the display. >> Then, they should pair up again automatically. >> >> I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were >> problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. >> >> HTH, >> Richard >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Annie Skov Nielsen >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much >> >> Hi Sieghard. >> >> The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille >> display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the >> phone has the problem or the braille display. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : >> >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >>> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >>> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >>> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >>> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a >>> big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >>> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >>> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >>> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >>> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find >>> extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >>> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >>> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >>> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >>> Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have >> very good sound quality etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 fe
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Annie, THanks for this info and I will file this as a part of my data gathering. If I learn anything I will let you know On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Scot. > The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes it > suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it > connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but > people won't not discuss that problem. > > Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try > that, and come back to you. > > I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because > some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and super > vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any problems > at all. > > Best regards Annie. > > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner > : > >> Hi Annie, >> >> Which braille display? >> >> Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence >> you turn things off and on. >> Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the >> phone, then turn off the display. >> When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the >> display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before >> turning on the display. >> Then, they should pair up again automatically. >> >> I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were >> problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. >> >> HTH, >> Richard >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Annie Skov Nielsen >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much >> >> Hi Sieghard. >> >> The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille >> display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the >> phone has the problem or the braille display. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : >> >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >>> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >>> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >>> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >>> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a >>> big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >>> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >>> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >>> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >>> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find >>> extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >>> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >>> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >>> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >>> Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have >> very good sound quality etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned >>> much >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for >> bluetooth. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : >>> >>>> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >>>> Finally! >>>> >>>> At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>>>> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do >>>>> by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple >>>>> isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider >>>>> Fi
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi Scot. The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes it suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but people won't not discuss that problem. Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try that, and come back to you. I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and super vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any problems at all. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner : > Hi Annie, > > Which braille display? > > Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence > you turn things off and on. > Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the > phone, then turn off the display. > When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the > display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before > turning on the display. > Then, they should pair up again automatically. > > I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were > problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. > > HTH, > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Hi Sieghard. > > The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille > display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the > phone has the problem or the braille display. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : > >> Hi Annie, >> >> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a >> big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find >> extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >> Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have > very good sound quality etc. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned >> much >> >> Hi. >> >> Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for > bluetooth. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : >> >>> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >>> Finally! >>> >>> At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>>> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do >>>> by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple >>>> isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider >>>> Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. >>>> In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, >>>> I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before >>>> they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small >>>> reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple >>>> devices and the >> huge offering of cables, docks etc. >>>> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >>>> and maybe more dura
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi Kevin and Others, This is a side-comment to the issue of micro-USB vs. new dock connectors, but I'd just like to point out that if you do have to use micro USB connectors, a small side benefit of getting products like the Jawbone Jambox or Big Jambox, or any of the Jawbone Blutooth headsets, is that they come with micro USB to USB connectors that has a flat bevel on one side so that you can tell which way to plug into a micro USB port by holding the plug. As a result, I use this connector for lots more items than my Jawbone devices. I agree with Sieghard that the lag in Bluetooth headsets is annoying, so I don't use the Bluetooth headset/phone function much. But I use the connector to charge my portable Wi-Fi hotspot, for example. As far as the new Bluetooth standard, the lower power usage that Kevin mentioned in another post is really going to be used for new classes of Bluetooth devices -- such as medical monitoring devices -- rather than more lag-free audio to headsets, though the latter might be coming, too. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 15, 2:45 am, Kevin Barry wrote: > I always hated plugging in anything that used micro USB. > It seems to take way too much effort and exactness for something you do often. > > At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, Sieghard wrote: > > >Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, > >so it's not quite the same as backing USB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Richard, Very interesting, but I have the Apple keyboard. You know if the problems persist after iOS 6 rolls out, I'd like to get a lot of info from you. :) Brand of keyboard, Braille display, and so forth. GOing to get this issue resolved one way or the other. THanks, On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:42 PM, "Richard Turner" wrote: > Scott, > I've had pretty consistent problems with my blue tooth qwerty keyboard and > Wi-Fi getting messed up after I've used it for a while. > I have not noticed the same with the braille display. I will continue to > track that and see what I can come up with. > > After iOS 6 comes out, I will be using braille more. > > Richard > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Scott Howell > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:38 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Richard, > > I have had problems since back when related to the display not reconnecting, > loosing WI-FI and so on. I can tell you that it seems to matter little at > least for me using a 4S on AT&T when who gets turned on when. I do turn the > display on first, but I have turned it off and back on while the phone is > unlocked and in most cases it will reconnect. I have seen some cases where > it never connected despite the sequence. The problem is the problem is not > the same for everyone. I've tried to gather as much data as I could to share > with Apple, but I have never been abel to gather enough data from folks to > really be of any help. Of course anything anyone shares is welcome, but I > need pretty specific steps and results. I have been working with APple > on/off about this problem for a while and hope iOS 6 will have some of this > resolved. If not I'm going to start a campaign. :) I want to use my display > as much as possible, but I'm not going to make myself nuts either. :) > > On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > >> Hi Annie, >> >> Which braille display? >> >> Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the >> sequence you turn things off and on. >> Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, >> lock the phone, then turn off the display. >> When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on >> the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds >> before turning on the display. >> Then, they should pair up again automatically. >> >> I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were >> problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. >> >> HTH, >> Richard >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned >> much >> >> Hi Sieghard. >> >> The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a >> braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really >> to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : >> >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >>> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >>> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >>> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >>> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not >>> a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >>> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >>> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >>> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >>> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I >>> find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired > headsets. >>> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >>> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >>> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >>> Bose headset, another person said they are extremel
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Scott, I've had pretty consistent problems with my blue tooth qwerty keyboard and Wi-Fi getting messed up after I've used it for a while. I have not noticed the same with the braille display. I will continue to track that and see what I can come up with. After iOS 6 comes out, I will be using braille more. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Richard, I have had problems since back when related to the display not reconnecting, loosing WI-FI and so on. I can tell you that it seems to matter little at least for me using a 4S on AT&T when who gets turned on when. I do turn the display on first, but I have turned it off and back on while the phone is unlocked and in most cases it will reconnect. I have seen some cases where it never connected despite the sequence. The problem is the problem is not the same for everyone. I've tried to gather as much data as I could to share with Apple, but I have never been abel to gather enough data from folks to really be of any help. Of course anything anyone shares is welcome, but I need pretty specific steps and results. I have been working with APple on/off about this problem for a while and hope iOS 6 will have some of this resolved. If not I'm going to start a campaign. :) I want to use my display as much as possible, but I'm not going to make myself nuts either. :) On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > Hi Annie, > > Which braille display? > > Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the > sequence you turn things off and on. > Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, > lock the phone, then turn off the display. > When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on > the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds > before turning on the display. > Then, they should pair up again automatically. > > I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were > problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. > > HTH, > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned > much > > Hi Sieghard. > > The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a > braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really > to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : > >> Hi Annie, >> >> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not >> a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I >> find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >> Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and >> have > very good sound quality etc. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been >> mentioned much >> >> Hi. >> >> Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for > bluetooth. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : >> >>> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. &g
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Richard, I have had problems since back when related to the display not reconnecting, loosing WI-FI and so on. I can tell you that it seems to matter little at least for me using a 4S on AT&T when who gets turned on when. I do turn the display on first, but I have turned it off and back on while the phone is unlocked and in most cases it will reconnect. I have seen some cases where it never connected despite the sequence. The problem is the problem is not the same for everyone. I've tried to gather as much data as I could to share with Apple, but I have never been abel to gather enough data from folks to really be of any help. Of course anything anyone shares is welcome, but I need pretty specific steps and results. I have been working with APple on/off about this problem for a while and hope iOS 6 will have some of this resolved. If not I'm going to start a campaign. :) I want to use my display as much as possible, but I'm not going to make myself nuts either. :) On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > Hi Annie, > > Which braille display? > > Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence > you turn things off and on. > Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the > phone, then turn off the display. > When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the > display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before > turning on the display. > Then, they should pair up again automatically. > > I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were > problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. > > HTH, > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Hi Sieghard. > > The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille > display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the > phone has the problem or the braille display. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : > >> Hi Annie, >> >> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find >> devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know >> what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that >> a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which >> was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a >> big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe >> can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery >> life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that >> there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same >> tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find >> extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. >> I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, >> the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the >> original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >> Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have > very good sound quality etc. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned >> much >> >> Hi. >> >> Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for > bluetooth. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : >> >>> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >>> Finally! >>> >>> At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>>> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do >>>> by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple >>>> isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider >>>> Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. >>>> In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, >>>> I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before >>>
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi Annie, Which braille display? Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence you turn things off and on. Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the phone, then turn off the display. When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before turning on the display. Then, they should pair up again automatically. I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi Sieghard. The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : > Hi Annie, > > The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find > devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know > what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that > a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which > was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a > big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe > can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery > life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that > there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same > tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find > extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. > I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, > the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the > original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 > Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned > much > > Hi. > > Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > >> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >> Finally! >> >> At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do >>> by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple >>> isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider >>> Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. >>> In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, >>> I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before >>> they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small >>> reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple >>> devices and the > huge offering of cables, docks etc. >>> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >>> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. >>> After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that >>> there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that >>> it will have the new small connector. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail
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Hi Sieghard. The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel : > Hi Annie, > > The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices > for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for > example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 > model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently > released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something > like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 > device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am > really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset > which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth > devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick > to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very > good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over > the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 > Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have > very good sound quality etc. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Hi. > > Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > >> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >> Finally! >> >> At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by >>> law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't >>> exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire >>> and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any >>> case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know >>> a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have >>> the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable >>> connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the > huge offering of cables, docks etc. >>> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >>> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After >>> all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is >>> maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will >>> have the new small connector. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google &g
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
In your ears. Apple does not have any over-the-ear headphones to my knowledge. In fact not even sure they ever had such a beast. On Sep 15, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Vicki Meizinger wrote: > on earpods, do they go in your ears or over them? for me it's an important > consideration in getting them or not. > Vicki Meizinger > > On 9/15/2012 9:47 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: >> I believe it is far more power efficient. >> >> At 09:23 AM 9/15/2012, you wrote: >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices >>> for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for >>> example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 >>> model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently >>> released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something >>> like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 >>> device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am >>> really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset >>> which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth >>> devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick >>> to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very >>> good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over >>> the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 >>> Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have >>> very good sound quality etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Annie Skov Nielsen >>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : >>> >>> > Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >>> > Finally! >>> > >>> > At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>> >> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by >>> >> law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't >>> >> exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire >>> >> and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any >>> >> case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know >>> >> a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have >>> >> the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable >>> >> connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the >>> huge offering of cables, docks etc. >>> >> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >>> >> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After >>> >> all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is >>> >> maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will >>> >> have the new small connector. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> Sieghard >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> > To post to this group, send email to vipho
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on earpods, do they go in your ears or over them? for me it's an important consideration in getting them or not. Vicki Meizinger On 9/15/2012 9:47 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: I believe it is far more power efficient. At 09:23 AM 9/15/2012, you wrote: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. > Finally! > > At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by >> law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't >> exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire >> and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any >> case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know >> a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have >> the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable >> connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. >> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After >> all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is >> maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will >> have the new small connector. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive
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Sieghard, I know headphones are incredibly subjective, but somehow I doubt they will compare to the Bose headphones. I think if APple were to switch over to a silicone tip it would improve the headphones considerably. After using this arrangement with my Bose headphones I cannot imagine ever using anything else. You can say whatever you want about Bose and no not every product they turn out is a winner, but their headphones have thus far been the best that I have used. Of course there is always something better I'm sure. :) On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Annie, > > The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices > for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for > example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 > model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently > released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something > like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 > device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am > really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset > which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth > devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick > to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very > good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over > the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 > Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have > very good sound quality etc. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Hi. > > Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > >> Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. >> Finally! >> >> At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >>> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by >>> law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't >>> exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire >>> and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any >>> case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know >>> a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have >>> the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable >>> connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the > huge offering of cables, docks etc. >>> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >>> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After >>> all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is >>> maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will >>> have the new small connector. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@google
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I believe it is far more power efficient. At 09:23 AM 9/15/2012, you wrote: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. > Finally! > > At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by >> law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't >> exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire >> and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any >> case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know >> a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have >> the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable >> connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. >> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After >> all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is >> maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will >> have the new small connector. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. > Finally! > > At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by >> law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't >> exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire >> and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any >> case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know >> a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have >> the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable >> connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. >> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler >> and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After >> all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is >> maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will >> have the new small connector. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry : > Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. > Finally! > > At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: >> Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, >> so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly >> known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt >> not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think >> Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even >> have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I >> think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the >> popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. >> whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and >> maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if >> you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in >> in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small >> connector. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I always hated plugging in anything that used micro USB. It seems to take way too much effort and exactness for something you do often. At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Ah, I see that now, thanks! Looks like it was more due to EU regulations than it was that they participated in the IEC's decision making process: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/04/apple-unveils-dock-to-micro-usb-adapter-to-comply-with-eu-standa/ On 14/09/12 16:56, Daniel Miller wrote: > They actually backed that, but only in Europe. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:53 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > USB can carry video. I'm not sure why Apple chooses not to use the micro USB > connector, but I do know that Apple chooses not to participate in various > cell phone consortiums, so they were not present when the cell phone > manufacturers adopted micro USB as the standard for the battery charging > connection. > > On 14/09/12 12:54, Scott Howell wrote: >> ANd USB to my knowledge does not carry video etc. as this new connector > does. >> On Sep 14, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Rob Harris wrote: >> >>> They wouldn't want it to be that simple!... but having said that, >>> this new lead is reversable, it goes in either way and works. That's >>> what I read at least. >>> >>> Clarification: the little plug goes in either way up, that is a >>> simplification. >>> >>> R! >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Marco Migotti" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:32 PM >>> Subject: RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been >>> mentioned much >>> >>> >>> Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector >>> as this is available commercially from any electronics seller and >>> this would make it easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they > so wished. >>> >>> Marco >>> >>> -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau >>> Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been >>> mentioned much >>> >>> Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was >>> eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) >>> Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making >>> products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable >>> hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for >>> many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault >>> them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or >>> later. >>> >>> What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least >>> in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and >>> Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of >>> their own for the time being, if ever. >>> >>> On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream >>> for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was >>> really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to >>> pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included >>> with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been >>> absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's >>> not going to happen. >>> >>> -Marc >>> >>> >>> On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> Hello List, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional >>>> iPhone >>>> 5 >>>> changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. >>>> This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock >>>> and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new >>>> iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't >>>> think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I >>>> think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like >>>> a Bose Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I >>>> would consider it an improveme
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
They actually backed that, but only in Europe. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much USB can carry video. I'm not sure why Apple chooses not to use the micro USB connector, but I do know that Apple chooses not to participate in various cell phone consortiums, so they were not present when the cell phone manufacturers adopted micro USB as the standard for the battery charging connection. On 14/09/12 12:54, Scott Howell wrote: > ANd USB to my knowledge does not carry video etc. as this new connector does. > On Sep 14, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Rob Harris wrote: > >> They wouldn't want it to be that simple!... but having said that, >> this new lead is reversable, it goes in either way and works. That's >> what I read at least. >> >> Clarification: the little plug goes in either way up, that is a >> simplification. >> >> R! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Marco Migotti" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:32 PM >> Subject: RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been >> mentioned much >> >> >> Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector >> as this is available commercially from any electronics seller and >> this would make it easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they so wished. >> >> Marco >> >> -Original Message-----From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau >> Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been >> mentioned much >> >> Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was >> eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) >> Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making >> products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable >> hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for >> many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault >> them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or >> later. >> >> What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least >> in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and >> Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of >> their own for the time being, if ever. >> >> On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream >> for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was >> really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to >> pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included >> with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been >> absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's >> not going to happen. >> >> -Marc >> >> >> On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hello List, >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional >>> iPhone >>> 5 >>> changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. >>> This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock >>> and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new >>> iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't >>> think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I >>> think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like >>> a Bose Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I >>> would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the >>> feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very >>> nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' >>> matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. >>> >>> >>> >>> Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where >>> the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but >>> apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. >>> >>> >>> >>> Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the i
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
USB can carry video. I'm not sure why Apple chooses not to use the micro USB connector, but I do know that Apple chooses not to participate in various cell phone consortiums, so they were not present when the cell phone manufacturers adopted micro USB as the standard for the battery charging connection. On 14/09/12 12:54, Scott Howell wrote: > ANd USB to my knowledge does not carry video etc. as this new connector does. > On Sep 14, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Rob Harris wrote: > >> They wouldn't want it to be that simple!... but having said that, this new >> lead is reversable, it goes in either way and works. That's what I read at >> least. >> >> Clarification: the little plug goes in either way up, that is a >> simplification. >> >> R! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Marco Migotti" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:32 PM >> Subject: RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much >> >> >> Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector as this >> is available commercially from any electronics seller and this would make it >> easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they so wished. >> >> Marco >> >> -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau >> Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much >> >> Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was >> eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) >> Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making >> products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable >> hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for >> many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault >> them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or >> later. >> >> What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least >> in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and >> Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their >> own for the time being, if ever. >> >> On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for >> Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was >> really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to >> pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included >> with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been >> absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's >> not going to happen. >> >> -Marc >> >> >> On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hello List, >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone >>> 5 >>> changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This >>> means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone >>> cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables >>> you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well >>> for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have >>> purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this >>> "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though >>> simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more >>> stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which >>> means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either >>> way. >>> >>> >>> >>> Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the >>> dock >>> connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob >>> from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. >>> >>> >>> >>> Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) >> allows >>> you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a >>> feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there >>> might >>> be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, >>> now you can without stopping your video recordin
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
ANd USB to my knowledge does not carry video etc. as this new connector does. On Sep 14, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Rob Harris wrote: > They wouldn't want it to be that simple!... but having said that, this new > lead is reversable, it goes in either way and works. That's what I read at > least. > > Clarification: the little plug goes in either way up, that is a > simplification. > > R! > - Original Message - > From: "Marco Migotti" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:32 PM > Subject: RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > > Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector as this > is available commercially from any electronics seller and this would make it > easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they so wished. > > Marco > > -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau > Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was > eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) > Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making > products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable > hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for > many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault > them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or > later. > > What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least > in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and > Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their > own for the time being, if ever. > > On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for > Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was > really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to > pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included > with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been > absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's > not going to happen. > > -Marc > > > On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> >> >> I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone >> 5 >> changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This >> means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone >> cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables >> you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well >> for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have >> purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this >> "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though >> simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more >> stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which >> means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either >> way. >> >> >> >> Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the >> dock >> connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob >> from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. >> >> >> >> Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) > allows >> you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a >> feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there >> might >> be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, >> now you can without stopping your video recording. >> >> >> >> Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app >> and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on >> the >> home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on > the >> apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not >> mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be >> part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we >> say >> received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
They wouldn't want it to be that simple!... but having said that, this new lead is reversable, it goes in either way and works. That's what I read at least. Clarification: the little plug goes in either way up, that is a simplification. R! - Original Message - From: "Marco Migotti" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector as this is available commercially from any electronics seller and this would make it easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they so wished. Marco -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello List, > > > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone > 5 > changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This > means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone > cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables > you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well > for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have > purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this > "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though > simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more > stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which > means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either > way. > > > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the > dock > connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob > from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows > you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a > feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there > might > be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, > now you can without stopping your video recording. > > > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app > and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on > the > home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the > apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not > mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be > part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we > say > received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on > it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/v
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector as this is available commercially from any electronics seller and this would make it easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they so wished. Marco -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello List, > > > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone > 5 > changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This > means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone > cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables > you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well > for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have > purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this > "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though > simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more > stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which > means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either > way. > > > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the > dock > connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob > from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows > you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a > feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there > might > be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, > now you can without stopping your video recording. > > > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app > and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on > the > home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the > apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not > mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be > part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we > say > received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on > it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- "There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this grou
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I have been wondering the same thing, and apple didn't mention it either. You would think since they put the effort in accessibility, that would reasonably think of this feature. I am not getting rid of navigon yet. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi, I can't confirm this since I'm not a developer but, , I remember reading an article when IOS 6 beta was just released that, a pedestrian mode was not apart of the new navigation app. I don't know if this was indeed the case then and, will be the case when IOS 6 is released but, its something to think about. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, "Fred Olver" wrote: One item I also have not seen mentioned which will also be available on the 4S is the turn-by-turn maps. I guess I may be able to clear out my navigation folder, or maybe not. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hello List, I don’t think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don’t think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this “improvement” is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it’s reverseable which means it doesn’ matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a feature many of us would use, but I think it’s a nice feature as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the apple.com website under “iPhone” and “Built In Apps” and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple’s Podcast app has shall we say received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody’s throat. Best regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Yes, I think subway and pedestrian modes are still not supported. I believe I read that in a live blog at the time it was being introduced. I'm sure Gizmodo or CNet or one of those sites will have the pertinent information. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi, I can't confirm this since I'm not a developer but, , I remember reading an article when IOS 6 beta was just released that, a pedestrian mode was not apart of the new navigation app. I don't know if this was indeed the case then and, will be the case when IOS 6 is released but, its something to think about. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, "Fred Olver" wrote: > One item I also have not seen mentioned which will also be available on the 4S is the turn-by-turn maps. I guess I may be able to clear out my navigation folder, or maybe not. > > Fred Olver > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:01 PM > Subject: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Hello List, > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscr
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi, I can't confirm this since I'm not a developer but, , I remember reading an article when IOS 6 beta was just released that, a pedestrian mode was not apart of the new navigation app. I don't know if this was indeed the case then and, will be the case when IOS 6 is released but, its something to think about. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM, "Fred Olver" wrote: > One item I also have not seen mentioned which will also be available on the > 4S is the turn-by-turn maps. I guess I may be able to clear out my navigation > folder, or maybe not. > > Fred Olver > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:01 PM > Subject: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Hello List, > > I don’t think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 > changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This > means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone > cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables > you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don’t think this would work well for > sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have > purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this > “improvement” is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though > simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more > stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it’s reverseable which > means it doesn’ matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock > connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob > from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows > you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a > feature many of us would use, but I think it’s a nice feature as there might > be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, > now you can without stopping your video recording. > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and > none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home > screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the > apple.com website under “iPhone” and “Built In Apps” and Podcasts was not > mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be > part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple’s Podcast app has shall we say > received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it > some more and get it right before they force it down everybody’s throat. > > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I am sure that in a few months, apple will have licensed that hardware patents and we will see cheaper adapters. - Original Message - From: "Marc Rocheleau" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hello List, I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. Best regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I recall reading yesterday from the page on the Apple site that said what was in the box, that the smaller connector and an adapter will both be included with new iPhone 5's. I usually buy two chargers so I will probably get two adapters since I've got a couple of docks at home. It makes sense that Apple would include the adapters in the box with new iPhones since they know that many people have docks and other accessories they use with their phones. If they didn't include any sort of adapter, then we could say that they were out to make a buck. Regards, Wayne On 9/13/12, Fred Olver wrote: > One item I also have not seen mentioned which will also be available on the > 4S is the turn-by-turn maps. I guess I may be able to clear out my > navigation folder, or maybe not. > > Fred Olver > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:01 PM > Subject: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > > Hello List, > > > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone > 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This > means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone > cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables > you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well > for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have > purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this > "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though > simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more > stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which > means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either > way. > > > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the > dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently > Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) > allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much > a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there > might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a > video, now you can without stopping your video recording. > > > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app > and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the > home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the > apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not > mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be > part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say > received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on > it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
One item I also have not seen mentioned which will also be available on the 4S is the turn-by-turn maps. I guess I may be able to clear out my navigation folder, or maybe not. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hello List, I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. Best regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I'm not sure it's true to say that no one was asking for a thinner phone. Android hand sets advertise their thinness, so I assume Apple was reacting to that competition. On 13/09/12 12:35, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Mark, > > It's 8 signal Pins + 1 ground, 9 in total. As far as Apple doing things > their way, that has always been their way, they never ask and Steve Jobbs > actually stated specifically that he doesn't put together user groups or > does surveys to find out what people want since people don't know what they > want until Apple tells them what they want. > > Anyhow, I can't see this adapter not being available all over the Internet > and I would be surprised if Apple could legally block some outfit in China > to make this thing and sell it on monoprice.com or similar sites for 5 bucks > or at least for something a lot less than $30 or $35. One interesting > titbit, in Europe, at least in EU countries, the iPhone is always sold with > a 30-Pin to USB Micro adapter since somehow they have a law that says it has > to be so. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Marc Rocheleau > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:16 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much > > Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight > pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they > made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with > a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll > be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. > By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had > to do it sooner or later. > > What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in > Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't > allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time > being, if ever. > > On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple > but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking > for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit > things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which > would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the > phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. > > -Marc > > > On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> >> >> I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional >> iPhone >> 5 >> changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. >> This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and >> iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new >> iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think >> this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think >> especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose >> Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would >> consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the >> much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature >> is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which >> way around you stick it in, it fits either way. >> >> >> >> Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where >> the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but >> apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. >> >> >> >> Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) >> allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so >> much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature >> as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are >> recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. >> >> >> >> Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast >> app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps >> visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I >> also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In >> Apps" and Podcasts was not mentio
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Hi Mark, It's 8 signal Pins + 1 ground, 9 in total. As far as Apple doing things their way, that has always been their way, they never ask and Steve Jobbs actually stated specifically that he doesn't put together user groups or does surveys to find out what people want since people don't know what they want until Apple tells them what they want. Anyhow, I can't see this adapter not being available all over the Internet and I would be surprised if Apple could legally block some outfit in China to make this thing and sell it on monoprice.com or similar sites for 5 bucks or at least for something a lot less than $30 or $35. One interesting titbit, in Europe, at least in EU countries, the iPhone is always sold with a 30-Pin to USB Micro adapter since somehow they have a law that says it has to be so. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello List, > > > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional > iPhone > 5 > changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. > This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and > iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new > iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think > this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think > especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose > Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would > consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the > much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature > is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which > way around you stick it in, it fits either way. > > > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where > the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but > apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) > allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so > much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature > as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are > recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. > > > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast > app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps > visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I > also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In > Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the > feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release > since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than > favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more > and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send ema
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Like printing money. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello List, > > > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional > iPhone > 5 > changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. > This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and > iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new > iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think > this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think > especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose > Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would > consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the > much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature > is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which > way around you stick it in, it fits either way. > > > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where > the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but > apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) > allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so > much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature > as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are > recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. > > > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast > app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps > visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I > also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In > Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the > feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release > since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than > favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more > and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- "There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello List, > > > > I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone > 5 > changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This > means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone > cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables > you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well > for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have > purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this > "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though > simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more > stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which > means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either > way. > > > > Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the > dock > connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob > from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. > > > > Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows > you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a > feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there > might > be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, > now you can without stopping your video recording. > > > > Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app > and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on > the > home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the > apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not > mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be > part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we > say > received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on > it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- “There is no shame in being who you are. There’s only shame in not going down swinging to protect it” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
I believe it was later confirmed that Apple's going to sell the dock connector adaptor for $29.95. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hello List, I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. Best regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
