Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
If you open the article/link in Safari or read it on a Windows PC, you should not have any trouble. I saw the article posted here but read it in Internet Explorer with JAWS on Jonathan's site and had no trouble. Yes, the 2 finger flick down is the VoiceOver gesture to perform a continuous read, or "say all" if you prefer. Wayne On 4/7/18, Arlene wrote: > What is the continuous read comand? I swiped down with 2 fingers and it read > > the whole message. We don't know if this matters, we've got our se phones > running 11.3. Thanks. > - Original Message - > From: "Les Kriegler" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 5:53 PM > Subject: Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article? > > > Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. > The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to > continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Kathy, >> >> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article. It seemed that the speech >> didn’t work for me. I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no >> speech. I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA >> myself. >> >> Esther >> >> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! >> >>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote: >>> >>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because >>> when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could >>> >>> do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only >>> thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long >>> thread of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no >>> >>> problem. Has anyone noticed this? >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.
Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
What is the continuous read comand? I swiped down with 2 fingers and it read the whole message. We don't know if this matters, we've got our se phones running 11.3. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Les Kriegler" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article? Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale wrote: Hi, Kathy, I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article. It seemed that the speech didn’t work for me. I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no speech. I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote: On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has anyone noticed this? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subsc
Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
Yes, I just read it and was surprised to have that problem. Am using 6s. All the best Angie Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Apr 2018, at 22:51, Kathy Brandt wrote: > > On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when I > tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to get > out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing similar to > it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of messages. In > safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has anyone > noticed this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
Sounds to me like someone at the apple development team thought it would be a good idea to buffer all that text. It sounds like a good idea, until you run up against both the CPU limitations and the memory limitations of your device. At that point, voiceover (which can be resource intensive) will bog down (or fail completely as has sometimes happened). -Eric > On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:02 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > I read books from Kobo, and for some months now, the longer the chapter, the > longer it takes VoiceOver to start reading after the command to read from the > top. It’s as though VoiceOver is digesting all the pages before beginning to > read. For 40 pages, it can take a full minute for VoiceOver to start reading. > Cheers, > > Anne > > > >> On 7 Apr 2018, at 00:53, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >> Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. >> The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to >> continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Kathy, >>> >>> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article. It seemed that the speech >>> didn’t work for me. I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no >>> speech. I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself. >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! >>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote: On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has anyone noticed this? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to
Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
I read books from Kobo, and for some months now, the longer the chapter, the longer it takes VoiceOver to start reading after the command to read from the top. It’s as though VoiceOver is digesting all the pages before beginning to read. For 40 pages, it can take a full minute for VoiceOver to start reading. Cheers, Anne > On 7 Apr 2018, at 00:53, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. The > only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to continually > swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Kathy, >> >> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article. It seemed that the speech >> didn’t work for me. I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no >> speech. I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself. >> >> Esther >> >> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! >> >>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote: >>> >>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when >>> I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to >>> get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing >>> similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of >>> messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. >>> Has anyone noticed this? >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. You
Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article. It seemed that the speech > didn’t work for me. I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no > speech. I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself. > > Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > >> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote: >> >> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when >> I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to >> get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing >> similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of >> messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has >> anyone noticed this? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
Hi, Kathy, I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article. It seemed that the speech didn’t work for me. I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no speech. I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt wrote: > > On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when I > tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to get > out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing similar to > it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of messages. In > safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has anyone > noticed this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.