Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Holly 

Amy:

I think they are both the same, as far as speed to connect.  They will 
connect as soon as you say "Wake word, talk to the front door, or whatever 
you name the ring. 


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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Amy Johnson 
Awesome!  Thanks for this info.  I know useing the phone to connect is
so slow.  Does it work faster useing the spot or show?
Thanks
Amy Johnson

On 6/10/19, Holly  wrote:
> Yes Amy:
>
> The echo spot or the echo show will both support two way communication with
>
> the doorbell.  The little echo spot is not large and is less expensive than
>
> the echo show.
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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Holly 

Yes Amy:

The echo spot or the echo show will both support two way communication with 
the doorbell.  The little echo spot is not large and is less expensive than 
the echo show. 


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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Amy Johnson 
Oh ok didn't know is this quicker than useing the phone?  If so I
might get one.  Had no idea any of them worked with the doorbell to
talk back and forth through.

On 6/10/19, Holly  wrote:
> Yes, it is strange that you can't have two way communication to the doorbell
>
> with the echo dot.  I can, however, have two way communication from my echo
>
> spot to an echo dot that is in another room, but the dot cannot talk back to
>
> the doorbell, although it does alert you when someone is at the door.  You
> can talk to the door with your phone app, but it is very slow and not very
> accessible.
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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Holly 
Yes, it is strange that you can't have two way communication to the doorbell 
with the echo dot.  I can, however, have two way communication from my echo 
spot to an echo dot that is in another room, but the dot cannot talk back to 
the doorbell, although it does alert you when someone is at the door.  You 
can talk to the door with your phone app, but it is very slow and not very 
accessible. 


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RE: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
But I wonder why Amazon doesn't enable this 2-way communication also on the 
Echo Dot, Echo and whatever other audio only devices they have.
Surely they must realize that not everybody has an Echo with a screen 
everywhere and that there are millions of visually impaired people who have no 
use for the video in any case.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 8:04 AM
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Subject: Re: Doorbell App

Hi Amy:

You can talk back and forth to the ring doorbell if you have the little echo 
spot.  It is faster than the phone app.  You just tell your echo to talk to the 
front door, or whatever name you give it. 

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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Holly 

Hi Amy:

You can talk back and forth to the ring doorbell if you have the little echo 
spot.  It is faster than the phone app.  You just tell your echo to talk to 
the front door, or whatever name you give it. 


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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-10 Thread Amy Johnson 
I have the ring doorbell that you charge the battery since we do not
have a regular doorbell.  I also sometimes do not answer the doorbell
very quickly with it.  I do wish it was faster and on the android app
the live view buttons are not labeled.  I have emailed them but have
yet to see any changes.  I too also wish that you could talk back and
forth through the amazon echo.  Have heard good and bad about the nest
and hate to switch after spending the money for the ring doorbell but
might have to try something different someday.

On 6/10/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Reg,
>
> And again I didn't call, got busy cutting down my 3 trees in the backyard
> because the sour cherry tree for some reason mostly died last year after
> almost 20 years and this year it was worse. My Apple and ornamental apple
> trees both were infested by some sort of caterpillar for the last 4 or 5
> years and while it looks like they may not be there this year unless it's
> too early, neither of them flowered so down they came. In a few days a guy
> with a stump grinder will come by to get rid of the stumps, then I'll fix
> the lawn and plant new trees.
> We also have friends staying with us for the last month, my friend is from
> Germany and he is also married to a Filipina. He is already retired and they
> are spending in total 5 month in Canada. On Tuesday morning they leave to
> drive around for a month mostly camping, then his wife's sister who lives in
> Switzerland comes with her 11-year old son and they drive around 3 more
> weeks this time in an RV. On August 3 they come back here and will be here
> for another month at least, then maybe in September they want to go
> somewhere else in BC until their return flight at the beginning of October.
> I'll call you, would tomorrow around Noon or so work? When I walk to the
> store I often have time to call and chat.
>
> Take care,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg
> Sullivan
> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Doorbell App
>
> Sieghard, we can always depend on your wealth of experience when posting to
> this informative list.
> It's great to build on your knowledge before going out to purchase a product
> that may or may not be suitable to our needs.
> For the record I didn't purchase either of the brands you have highlighted
> in your post below. Thank god for that!
>
>
> CheersReg
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 10:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Doorbell App
>
> Which Ring doorbell do you have? Can you honestly say you can consistently
> accept a call when somebody rings the doorbell fast enough so you can speak
> to them before they leave thinking nobody is home?
> I have one of the original Ring doorbells at my house and I used to have a
> Ring Pro on the backdoor of my retail store. Picking up a call in time has
> always been an issue and in addition to that the Ring Pro at the back of my
> retail store constantly failed to remain connected to our WiFi. Initially
> the WiFi back there was a bit weak and the outside of the wall is metal
> which doesn't help. We initially tried the Ring Chim Pro which also acts as
> a WiFi repeater. We installed it on the inside of the door and above it so
> it was essentially 4 or 5 feet away from the doorbell and still it
> constantly dropped off the WiFi. I then purchased a Netgear Orbi Pro router
> which consists of the main router and a satellite unit. Before that I had a
> high-end Asus router, but it was in the middle of the 80 foot long building
> and on the second floor all the way on one outside wall (the building is 25
> feet wide, 2,000 square feet per floor and two floors). Anyhow, we installed
> the main Orbi router in our backroom where the internet comes into the
> building It is now no more than 10 feet from the backdoor where the doorbell
> is located and still the Ring Pro had issues.
> Eventually I was tired of it and I bought a Nest Hello video doorbell. We
> installed it and not once since we got it probably 6 months ago has it
> disconnected from the internet. I also find I can more quickly answer a ring
> from the notification and it connects very quickly. There are aspects of the
> Ring doorbell I like, the fact you can get their chime and all the different
> rings and spoken notifications such as "There is motion at your back door"
> and so on. However, all the bells and whistles mean little if the core
> functionality is not so great. What I like about the Nest Hello is that
> after I linked it to my Google Ass

RE: Doorbell App

2019-06-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Reg,

And again I didn't call, got busy cutting down my 3 trees in the backyard 
because the sour cherry tree for some reason mostly died last year after almost 
20 years and this year it was worse. My Apple and ornamental apple trees both 
were infested by some sort of caterpillar for the last 4 or 5 years and while 
it looks like they may not be there this year unless it's too early, neither of 
them flowered so down they came. In a few days a guy with a stump grinder will 
come by to get rid of the stumps, then I'll fix the lawn and plant new trees.
We also have friends staying with us for the last month, my friend is from 
Germany and he is also married to a Filipina. He is already retired and they 
are spending in total 5 month in Canada. On Tuesday morning they leave to drive 
around for a month mostly camping, then his wife's sister who lives in 
Switzerland comes with her 11-year old son and they drive around 3 more weeks 
this time in an RV. On August 3 they come back here and will be here for 
another month at least, then maybe in September they want to go somewhere else 
in BC until their return flight at the beginning of October.
I'll call you, would tomorrow around Noon or so work? When I walk to the store 
I often have time to call and chat.

Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Doorbell App

Sieghard, we can always depend on your wealth of experience when posting to 
this informative list. 
It's great to build on your knowledge before going out to purchase a product 
that may or may not be suitable to our needs.   
For the record I didn't purchase either of the brands you have highlighted in 
your post below. Thank god for that!


CheersReg



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Doorbell App

Which Ring doorbell do you have? Can you honestly say you can consistently 
accept a call when somebody rings the doorbell fast enough so you can speak to 
them before they leave thinking nobody is home?
I have one of the original Ring doorbells at my house and I used to have a Ring 
Pro on the backdoor of my retail store. Picking up a call in time has always 
been an issue and in addition to that the Ring Pro at the back of my retail 
store constantly failed to remain connected to our WiFi. Initially the WiFi 
back there was a bit weak and the outside of the wall is metal which doesn't 
help. We initially tried the Ring Chim Pro which also acts as a WiFi repeater. 
We installed it on the inside of the door and above it so it was essentially 4 
or 5 feet away from the doorbell and still it constantly dropped off the WiFi. 
I then purchased a Netgear Orbi Pro router which consists of the main router 
and a satellite unit. Before that I had a high-end Asus router, but it was in 
the middle of the 80 foot long building and on the second floor all the way on 
one outside wall (the building is 25 feet wide, 2,000 square feet per floor and 
two floors). Anyhow, we installed the main Orbi router in our backroom where 
the internet comes into the building It is now no more than 10 feet from the 
backdoor where the doorbell is located and still the Ring Pro had issues.
Eventually I was tired of it and I bought a Nest Hello video doorbell. We 
installed it and not once since we got it probably 6 months ago has it 
disconnected from the internet. I also find I can more quickly answer a ring 
from the notification and it connects very quickly. There are aspects of the 
Ring doorbell I like, the fact you can get their chime and all the different 
rings and spoken notifications such as "There is motion at your back door" and 
so on. However, all the bells and whistles mean little if the core 
functionality is not so great. What I like about the Nest Hello is that after I 
linked it to my Google Assistant app it now tells me on all my Google Home 
speakers "Somebody is at your back door" when somebody rings the doorbell 
there. It makes a sound and then the announcement and this includes my Google 
Home Mini speakers at home. I am sort of hoping that Google/Nest may expand 
this so you could simply tell the Google Home speaker to "answer the doorbell" 
and you could then talk to the person this way, but to my knowledge that is not 
yet possible.
Ring is owned by Amazon and I just had another look at their Alexa skill and 
while it seems to get better reviews now, you still can only ask Alexa to 
connect to your doorbell if you have one of the video Echos like the Echo Show, 
why on earth they don't allow all Alexa capable speakers to connect via audio 
only to the Ring doorbell I don't know.
I should mention that we also briefly tried the Honeywell Skybell HD which my

RE: Doorbell App

2019-06-09 Thread Reg Sullivan 
Sieghard, we can always depend on your wealth of experience when posting to 
this informative list. 
It's great to build on your knowledge before going out to purchase a product 
that may or may not be suitable to our needs.   
For the record I didn't purchase either of the brands you have highlighted in 
your post below. Thank god for that!


CheersReg



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Doorbell App

Which Ring doorbell do you have? Can you honestly say you can consistently 
accept a call when somebody rings the doorbell fast enough so you can speak to 
them before they leave thinking nobody is home?
I have one of the original Ring doorbells at my house and I used to have a Ring 
Pro on the backdoor of my retail store. Picking up a call in time has always 
been an issue and in addition to that the Ring Pro at the back of my retail 
store constantly failed to remain connected to our WiFi. Initially the WiFi 
back there was a bit weak and the outside of the wall is metal which doesn't 
help. We initially tried the Ring Chim Pro which also acts as a WiFi repeater. 
We installed it on the inside of the door and above it so it was essentially 4 
or 5 feet away from the doorbell and still it constantly dropped off the WiFi. 
I then purchased a Netgear Orbi Pro router which consists of the main router 
and a satellite unit. Before that I had a high-end Asus router, but it was in 
the middle of the 80 foot long building and on the second floor all the way on 
one outside wall (the building is 25 feet wide, 2,000 square feet per floor and 
two floors). Anyhow, we installed the main Orbi router in our backroom where 
the internet comes into the building It is now no more than 10 feet from the 
backdoor where the doorbell is located and still the Ring Pro had issues.
Eventually I was tired of it and I bought a Nest Hello video doorbell. We 
installed it and not once since we got it probably 6 months ago has it 
disconnected from the internet. I also find I can more quickly answer a ring 
from the notification and it connects very quickly. There are aspects of the 
Ring doorbell I like, the fact you can get their chime and all the different 
rings and spoken notifications such as "There is motion at your back door" and 
so on. However, all the bells and whistles mean little if the core 
functionality is not so great. What I like about the Nest Hello is that after I 
linked it to my Google Assistant app it now tells me on all my Google Home 
speakers "Somebody is at your back door" when somebody rings the doorbell 
there. It makes a sound and then the announcement and this includes my Google 
Home Mini speakers at home. I am sort of hoping that Google/Nest may expand 
this so you could simply tell the Google Home speaker to "answer the doorbell" 
and you could then talk to the person this way, but to my knowledge that is not 
yet possible.
Ring is owned by Amazon and I just had another look at their Alexa skill and 
while it seems to get better reviews now, you still can only ask Alexa to 
connect to your doorbell if you have one of the video Echos like the Echo Show, 
why on earth they don't allow all Alexa capable speakers to connect via audio 
only to the Ring doorbell I don't know.
I should mention that we also briefly tried the Honeywell Skybell HD which my 
alarm company offers and while the WiFi connection also seemed to be better 
than that of the Ring Pro, I really didn't like the fact that even if you 
established a life connection to the doorbell you could only talk to somebody 
in Walkie Talkie mode, e.g. it wasn't an open full duplex connection, you had 
to push a button on the phone to talk, then let go to listen and so on. Both 
Ring and Nest allow you to open a live connection and while said connection is 
open you can simply talk and listen at the same time just like on a phone cal;l.
For me currently the Nest Hello is I think the best option although Ring does 
make one doorbell which might work better, it's the Ring Elite if I remember 
the name correctly. The problem is that it is super expensive, but it connects 
to your router via an ethernet cable and actually you would need a router 
capable of POE (power over ethernet) or you would need a POE adapter since the 
doorbell also gets its power over that ethernet connection. I assume this would 
work very well, there really would be no reason for a connection to take time 
to be established since there is always a perfect, high bandwidth connection to 
the internet. But this is only speculation and at double the price of a Nest 
Hello or even Ring Pro this one is a difficult decision.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Doorbell App

2019-06-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Which Ring doorbell do you have? Can you honestly say you can consistently 
accept a call when somebody rings the doorbell fast enough so you can speak to 
them before they leave thinking nobody is home?
I have one of the original Ring doorbells at my house and I used to have a Ring 
Pro on the backdoor of my retail store. Picking up a call in time has always 
been an issue and in addition to that the Ring Pro at the back of my retail 
store constantly failed to remain connected to our WiFi. Initially the WiFi 
back there was a bit weak and the outside of the wall is metal which doesn't 
help. We initially tried the Ring Chim Pro which also acts as a WiFi repeater. 
We installed it on the inside of the door and above it so it was essentially 4 
or 5 feet away from the doorbell and still it constantly dropped off the WiFi. 
I then purchased a Netgear Orbi Pro router which consists of the main router 
and a satellite unit. Before that I had a high-end Asus router, but it was in 
the middle of the 80 foot long building and on the second floor all the way on 
one outside wall (the building is 25 feet wide, 2,000 square feet per floor and 
two floors). Anyhow, we installed the main Orbi router in our backroom where 
the internet comes into the building. It is now no more than 10 feet from the 
backdoor where the doorbell is located and still the Ring Pro had issues.
Eventually I was tired of it and I bought a Nest Hello video doorbell. We 
installed it and not once since we got it probably 6 months ago has it 
disconnected from the internet. I also find I can more quickly answer a ring 
from the notification and it connects very quickly. There are aspects of the 
Ring doorbell I like, the fact you can get their chime and all the different 
rings and spoken notifications such as "There is motion at your back door" and 
so on. However, all the bells and whistles mean little if the core 
functionality is not so great. What I like about the Nest Hello is that after I 
linked it to my Google Assistant app it now tells me on all my Google Home 
speakers "Somebody is at your back door" when somebody rings the doorbell 
there. It makes a sound and then the announcement and this includes my Google 
Home Mini speakers at home. I am sort of hoping that Google/Nest may expand 
this so you could simply tell the Google Home speaker to "answer the doorbell" 
and you could then talk to the person this way, but to my knowledge that is not 
yet possible.
Ring is owned by Amazon and I just had another look at their Alexa skill and 
while it seems to get better reviews now, you still can only ask Alexa to 
connect to your doorbell if you have one of the video Echos like the Echo Show, 
why on earth they don't allow all Alexa capable speakers to connect via audio 
only to the Ring doorbell I don't know.
I should mention that we also briefly tried the Honeywell Skybell HD which my 
alarm company offers and while the WiFi connection also seemed to be better 
than that of the Ring Pro, I really didn't like the fact that even if you 
established a life connection to the doorbell you could only talk to somebody 
in Walkie Talkie mode, e.g. it wasn't an open full duplex connection, you had 
to push a button on the phone to talk, then let go to listen and so on. Both 
Ring and Nest allow you to open a live connection and while said connection is 
open you can simply talk and listen at the same time just like on a phone cal;l.
For me currently the Nest Hello is I think the best option although Ring does 
make one doorbell which might work better, it's the Ring Elite if I remember 
the name correctly. The problem is that it is super expensive, but it connects 
to your router via an ethernet cable and actually you would need a router 
capable of POE (power over ethernet) or you would need a POE adapter since the 
doorbell also gets its power over that ethernet connection. I assume this would 
work very well, there really would be no reason for a connection to take time 
to be established since there is always a perfect, high bandwidth connection to 
the internet. But this is only speculation and at double the price of a Nest 
Hello or even Ring Pro this one is a difficult decision.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy 
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: Doorbell App

The ring doorbell works fairly well.  A little slow to come up but voiceover 
does work with it.
Amy Johnson

On 6/8/19, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> In addition to Carla’s post, I am replacing doors and of course door bells.
>
>
> Does anyone have a recent positive experieince with a Smart Door Bell 
> that works well with Voice Over?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards….Reg
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Thursday, June 06,

RE: Doorbell App

2019-06-08 Thread Carla 
I'll check it out.  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy 
Johnson
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Doorbell App

The ring doorbell works fairly well.  A little slow to come up but voiceover 
does work with it.
Amy Johnson

On 6/8/19, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> In addition to Carla’s post, I am replacing doors and of course door bells.
>
>
> Does anyone have a recent positive experieince with a Smart Door Bell 
> that works well with Voice Over?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards….Reg
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Doorbell App
>
>
>
> I was away from this list for over six months as I had total shoulder 
> replacement surgery so if this has just been discussed please accept 
> my apology.  I am wondering if the voiceover has been improved with 
> the my doorbell app.  I looked at it over a year ago and it wasn't 
> totally accessible.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> Carla
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Re: Doorbell App

2019-06-08 Thread Amy Johnson 
The ring doorbell works fairly well.  A little slow to come up but
voiceover does work with it.
Amy Johnson

On 6/8/19, Reg Sullivan  wrote:
> In addition to Carla’s post, I am replacing doors and of course door bells.
>
>
> Does anyone have a recent positive experieince with a Smart Door Bell that
> works well with Voice Over?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards….Reg
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Carla
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Doorbell App
>
>
>
> I was away from this list for over six months as I had total shoulder
> replacement surgery so if this has just been discussed please accept my
> apology.  I am wondering if the voiceover has been improved with the my
> doorbell app.  I looked at it over a year ago and it wasn't totally
> accessible.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> Carla
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RE: Doorbell App

2019-06-08 Thread Reg Sullivan 
In addition to Carla’s post, I am replacing doors and of course door bells.  

Does anyone have a recent positive experieince with a Smart Door Bell that 
works well with Voice Over?

 

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

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Carla
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I was away from this list for over six months as I had total shoulder 
replacement surgery so if this has just been discussed please accept my 
apology.  I am wondering if the voiceover has been improved with the my 
doorbell app.  I looked at it over a year ago and it wasn't totally accessible. 
 Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

 

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