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2012-05-15 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hi emmy:

I got my rii Bluetooth keyboard and I love it so much, but I need a physical
discribtion of it's keys,

Can u send it here please?

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More feedback on speed dots?

 

Hi Traci,

We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through
us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely clean
prior to applying their screen protector.

This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you put
it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer.
Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils, lint
or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.

We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their
standard and advanced models, so they'll remove one, clean the phone with
glass cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and
stick the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other
one. This, without having them peel.

Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our
resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month of
purchasing.

Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness
and it is applied straight, there's no reason why the protector will not
stay in place.

We've had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few
replacements.

Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable
with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means,
have someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it
without vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend of
ours who helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied many
screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first time.
Point is, it can be done; though I don't blame anyone for not wanting to try
it! *smile*

 

Amy Billman

Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!

SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector

http://www.SpeedDots.com

Follow us on Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

Like us on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More feedback on speed dots?

 

Hi all,

 

I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
speed dots screen covers.

 

I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
sprinkled around.

 

I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.

 

For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
example, you are in a noisy place.

 

My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?

 

Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10
is far more realistic then $1700.  :)

 

Traci

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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread Traci
Amy, thank you for the directions and advice.  I bought mine directly from you 
guys.

Wow, it is possible to switch between the 2 models?  I would have figured the 
adhesive would lessen.

I'll make sure my phone is good and clean.  We can clean our iPhones with glass 
cleaner?  I imagine one would need to be especially careful with that.

Thanks again, I'm looking forward to this.
Traci
PS. Bubble trouble, that made me laugh. :)
Sent by Macbook Air Mail

On May 14, 2012, at 2:19 PM, fred olver wrote:

> Mary Ellen, to find out more information about the products sold by speed 
> dots go to: http://www.speeddots.com
>  
> Fred Olver
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Ellen Sanchez
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: More feedback on speed dots?
> 
> Hi amy what other products do you sell as I really love my keyboard I just 
> got it today but I can’t tell what the top keys are for though.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Amy Billman
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: More feedback on speed dots?
>  
> Hi Traci,
> We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through 
> us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely clean 
> prior to applying their screen protector.
> This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you put 
> it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer. 
> Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils, lint 
> or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.
> We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their standard 
> and advanced models, so they’ll remove one, clean the phone with glass 
> cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and stick 
> the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other one. 
> This, without having them peel.
> Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our 
> resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month of 
> purchasing.
> Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness 
> and it is applied straight, there’s no reason why the protector will not stay 
> in place.
> We’ve had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few 
> replacements.
> Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable 
> with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means, have 
> someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it 
> without vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend of 
> ours who helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied many 
> screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first time. 
> Point is, it can be done; though I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to try 
> it! *smile*
>  
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> Follow us on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> Like us on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Traci
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: More feedback on speed dots?
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the 
> speed dots screen covers.
>  
> I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand them 
> correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j, and the 
> other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots sprinkled 
> around.
>  
> I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.
>  
> For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered, 
> are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for 
> example, you are in a noisy place.
>  
> My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of 
> messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.  
> How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a good 
> idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?
>  
> Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10 
> is far more realistic then $1700.  :)
>  
> Traci
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>  
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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread fred olver
Mary Ellen, to find out more information about the products sold by speed dots 
go to:  http://www.speeddots.com

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Ellen Sanchez 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:52 PM
  Subject: RE: More feedback on speed dots?


  Hi amy what other products do you sell as I really love my keyboard I just 
got it today but I can't tell what the top keys are for though.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy Billman
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:30 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: More feedback on speed dots?

   

  Hi Traci,

  We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through 
us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely clean 
prior to applying their screen protector.

  This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you put 
it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer. Putting 
it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils, lint or debris 
of any kind, will cause it to peel.

  We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their standard 
and advanced models, so they'll remove one, clean the phone with glass cleaner 
and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and stick the old one 
to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other one. This, without 
having them peel.

  Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our 
resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month of 
purchasing.

  Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness 
and it is applied straight, there's no reason why the protector will not stay 
in place.

  We've had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few 
replacements.

  Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable 
with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means, have 
someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it without 
vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend of ours who 
helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied many screen 
protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first time. Point is, it 
can be done; though I don't blame anyone for not wanting to try it! *smile*

   

  Amy Billman

  Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!

  SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector

  http://www.SpeedDots.com

  Follow us on Twitter:

  http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

  Like us on Facebook:

  http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Traci
  Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: More feedback on speed dots?

   

  Hi all,

   

  I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the 
speed dots screen covers.

   

  I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand them 
correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j, and the 
other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots sprinkled around.

   

  I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.

   

  For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered, 
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for 
example, you are in a noisy place.

   

  My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of 
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.  
How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a good 
idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?

   

  Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10 
is far more realistic then $1700.  :)

   

  Traci

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RE: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez
Hi amy what other products do you sell as I really love my keyboard I just
got it today but I can't tell what the top keys are for though.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More feedback on speed dots?

 

Hi Traci,

We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through
us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely clean
prior to applying their screen protector.

This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you put
it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer.
Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils, lint
or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.

We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their
standard and advanced models, so they'll remove one, clean the phone with
glass cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and
stick the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other
one. This, without having them peel.

Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our
resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month of
purchasing.

Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness
and it is applied straight, there's no reason why the protector will not
stay in place.

We've had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few
replacements.

Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable
with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means,
have someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it
without vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend of
ours who helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied many
screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first time.
Point is, it can be done; though I don't blame anyone for not wanting to try
it! *smile*

 

Amy Billman

Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!

SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector

http://www.SpeedDots.com

Follow us on Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

Like us on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More feedback on speed dots?

 

Hi all,

 

I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
speed dots screen covers.

 

I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
sprinkled around.

 

I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.

 

For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
example, you are in a noisy place.

 

My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?

 

Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10
is far more realistic then $1700.  :)

 

Traci

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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Amy;

I have never purchased anything from you.

However, in the future, I will!

You have a fine an reputable company.

Keep up your marvelous work.

Respectfully Yours

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

On May 14, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Amy Billman  wrote:

 Hi Traci,

We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through
us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely
clean prior to applying their screen protector.

This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you
put it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer.
Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils,
lint or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.

We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their
standard and advanced models, so they’ll remove one, clean the phone with
glass cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and
stick the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other
one. This, without having them peel.

Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our
resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month
of purchasing.

Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness
and it is applied straight, there’s no reason why the protector will not
stay in place.

We’ve had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few
replacements.

Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable
with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means,
have someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it
without vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend
of ours who helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied
many screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first
time. Point is, it can be done; though I don’t blame anyone for not wanting
to try it! **smile**



Amy Billman

Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!

SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector

http://www.SpeedDots.com

Follow us on Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

Like us on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Traci
*Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* More feedback on speed dots?



Hi all,



I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
speed dots screen covers.



I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
sprinkled around.



I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.



For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
example, you are in a noisy place.



My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
 How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?



Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but
$10 is far more realistic then $1700.  :)



Traci

Sent by Macbook Air Mail



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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I can vouch for these specific protectors as well as most other good 
ones which aren't super-thin. What Amy says is correct in that anyone 
can attach these, but by all means, get help if you are not comfortable 
with it. The worst thing to have are bubbles on after installing one, 
but with the Speed Dots ones, I haven't had any bubble trouble, and it's 
worked perfectly. Since I don't do as much typing as I thought I would, 
I've considered switching to the lesser dot model because I still like 
the placement of key dots in areas for various apps which allow me to 
find things quickly. I play the games from Storm8 and the buy more 
button is always located on or just under the dot 5 and this really 
helps. With many audio player apps, the play button is usually near or 
around the G button and that's also a huge time saver.


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On 5/14/2012 12:30 PM, Amy Billman wrote:

Hi Traci,

We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly
through us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is
completely clean prior to applying their screen protector.

This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you
put it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much
longer. Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of
dust, oils, lint or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.

We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their
standard and advanced models, so they’ll remove one, clean the phone
with glass cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we
provide, and stick the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and
put on the other one. This, without having them peel.

Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of
our resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a
month of purchasing.

Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen
cleanliness and it is applied straight, there’s no reason why the
protector will not stay in place.

We’ve had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very
few replacements.

Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way
uncomfortable with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that
by all means, have someone assist you with this process. It is however,
possible to do it without vision. My partner and I who own the company,
as well as a friend of ours who helps us make them, are all totally
blind, and have applied many screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and
done it right the first time. Point is, it can be done; though I don’t
blame anyone for not wanting to try it! **smile**

Amy Billman

Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!

SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector

http://www.SpeedDots.com

Follow us on Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

Like us on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Traci
*Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* More feedback on speed dots?

Hi all,

I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using
the speed dots screen covers.

I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models. If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except
f&j, and the other model has f&j covered. Both models have the other
dots sprinkled around.

I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.

For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are
covered, are you able to text without really paying attention to
voiceover? Say for example, you are in a noisy place.

My last concern is the screen placement and longevity. I read a handful
of messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in
place. How annoying for a $10 purchase. Any further thoughts on this? Is
it a good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?

Thanks for the info. In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but
$10 is far more realistic then $1700. :)

Traci

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RE: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread Amy Billman
Hi Traci,
We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through
us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely clean
prior to applying their screen protector.
This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you put
it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer.
Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils, lint
or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.
We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their
standard and advanced models, so they'll remove one, clean the phone with
glass cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and
stick the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other
one. This, without having them peel.
Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our
resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month of
purchasing.
Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness
and it is applied straight, there's no reason why the protector will not
stay in place.
We've had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few
replacements.
Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable
with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means,
have someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it
without vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend of
ours who helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied many
screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first time.
Point is, it can be done; though I don't blame anyone for not wanting to try
it! *smile*
 
Amy Billman
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SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More feedback on speed dots?
 
Hi all,
 
I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
speed dots screen covers.
 
I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
sprinkled around.
 
I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.
 
For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
example, you are in a noisy place.
 
My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?
 
Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10
is far more realistic then $1700.  :)
 
Traci
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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-14 Thread Carol Pearson
Hi,

I tried with SpeeDots but really didn't like them.  In feeling for the dots I 
found I slowed down and listened to what I didn't want to hear ...  All a bit 
confusing I thought!

Perhaps it was because I had been typing without dots for a few months so I 
soon went back to that method of working.

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 Original Message 
From: Traci
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:29 PM
Subject: More feedback on speed dots?

> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I went through some of the viPhone archives and read
> about folks using the speed dots screen covers. 
> 
> 
> I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models. 
> If I understand them correctly, 1 model has all the
> letters covered with dots except f&j, and the other model
> has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
> sprinkled around.
> 
> 
> I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they
> are worth it. 
> 
> 
> For those of you using the model where nearly all the
> letters are covered, are you able to text without really
> paying attention to voiceover?  Say for example, you are
> in a noisy place.   
> 
> 
> My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I
> read a handful of messages where folks couldn't get their
> screens to stick and stay in place.  How annoying for a
> $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
> good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit
> it? 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a
> braille display, but $10 is far more realistic then
> $1700.  :)  
> 
> 
> Traci
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
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re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-10 Thread alex wallis

Hi list,
just to weigh in hear, I have had mine on since getting the 4s in I 
think november or end of october last year, it has shown no sign of 
coming off at all, and the dots seem to be standing up quite well to 
being taken in and out of pockets etc.

I have the version with all the dots labeled.
Firstly, I didn't get anyone sighted to help me put it on the screen, I 
used the hole which goes over the home button as a guide and was able to 
hook it over the button and then just wiggle it slightly to sort lining 
up out.
Interestingly though, when sighted people have looked at my screen, they 
have commented that the dots are not quite lined up with the icons, as 
far as I can tell, the protector is on straight, at least the holes that 
go over the home button and part that you put to your ear seem to be 
lined up. So if it is on crooked it must be a tiny amount that isn't 
noticeable by touch, unless of course the screen layout relative to the 
position of the dots has changed minutely with the 4s.


Now, on to usefulness, I have to be honest, I don't really find the 
protector that useful, the only real reason I keep it on the phone is to 
keep the screen clean, and I suppose if I wanted to, I could buy a 
normal clear protector that would serve just as well.
I got both models when getting the protector, as I really wasn't sure 
which one I would need, but the second is still in its unopened packet.
The reason I don't find the protector as useful as I thought I might, is 
mostly because I use a bluetooth keyboard for texting, I just couldn't 
be bothered to mess around with the virtual keyboard for that, as I 
moved from a tradition of nokia communicators all of which had physical 
quwerty keyboards. So I have never learned to text in the traditional 
way with an ordinary keypad. I also use the bluetooth keyboard for 
dialing phone numbers from scratch when not on a call.
If I have to dial numbers internally on a call, I just take the phone 
away from my head and flick across the screen to find the one I need on 
the keypad rather than trying to aim for it in particular.


I do find the 4 buttons on the bottom useful for locating the individual 
icons in the dock, but I think I would manage that quite easily without 
them.
Out of interest, what are the other dots useful for finding that aren't 
letters? I usually just get by by flicking from control to control, but 
if the other dots really do help with navigation I may see if I find 
using them more efficient.
the dots I am thinking of that I never use are the row of 3 on the top, 
with the dot right below the line of 3 on the right hand side with no 
other dots near it. the end nearest to the sleep wake button.

the other  dot which I don't use marks the center of the screen.
In fact, in all the time I have been using the phone, I have never had 
any need to particularly find the center of the screen.
any feedback on my navigation style is welcome, I suspect most of you 
reading this will be comparing me to a sighted person who can't touch 
type and just pecks at the keyboard with two fingers, as I suspect my 
navigation method of constant flicking is far from efficient.

I look forward to any replies,
Alex.

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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-10 Thread Penny Reeder
Hi Tracie, I have the other model, the one with dots on the f and j,
and others sprinkled around -- sprinkled in very helpful places, I
might add!  I love the tactile overlay.  Using it has increased my
typing speed dramatically, and although I, too, rely on being able to
hear with VoiceOer, even this limited number of tactile indicators is
extremely helpful, and usually, because of the overlay, when I hit a
key, it turns out that I've hit the key I wanted to hit in the first
place!  I have been using the overlay since last summer without losing
it or having it fall off (knock on wood!)
Penny

On 5/10/12, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> Traci,
>
>
>
> I have the standard model with dots on all the letters except for f and j.
> I do find having it quite helpful.  However I'm not sure I'd go as far as to
> say I'd be totally comfortable with absolutely no VO feedback.  Note that I
> do have clicks turned off and have keyboard voice set to none but I do get a
> confirmation when placing my finger on a letter.  Honestly, I've never tried
> it as I would normally be wearing a BT headset when out in a noisy place and
> using my phone.
>
>
>
> Regarding longevity, I've had mine on for several months with no issues.  I
> do highly recommend you have a sighted person put it on the screen for you
> however to avoid bubbles, and to make sure everything lines up properly.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Traci
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: More feedback on speed dots?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
> speed dots screen covers.
>
>
>
> I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
> them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
> and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
> sprinkled around.
>
>
>
> I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.
>
>
>
> For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
> are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
> example, you are in a noisy place.
>
>
>
> My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
> messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
> How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
> good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10
> is far more realistic then $1700.  :)
>
>
>
> Traci
>
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>
>
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RE: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-10 Thread Rick Alfaro
Traci,

 

I have the standard model with dots on all the letters except for f and j.
I do find having it quite helpful.  However I'm not sure I'd go as far as to
say I'd be totally comfortable with absolutely no VO feedback.  Note that I
do have clicks turned off and have keyboard voice set to none but I do get a
confirmation when placing my finger on a letter.  Honestly, I've never tried
it as I would normally be wearing a BT headset when out in a noisy place and
using my phone.

 

Regarding longevity, I've had mine on for several months with no issues.  I
do highly recommend you have a sighted person put it on the screen for you
however to avoid bubbles, and to make sure everything lines up properly.

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More feedback on speed dots?

 

Hi all,

 

I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
speed dots screen covers.

 

I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
sprinkled around.

 

I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.

 

For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
example, you are in a noisy place.

 

My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?

 

Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10
is far more realistic then $1700.  :)

 

Traci

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Re: More feedback on speed dots?

2012-05-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I use the one with more dots. I find it very helpful even in noisy 
environments, but still like the voice to be heard to be sure. As for 
sticking or not sticking, if you find that it doesn't stick, you can go 
to a room full of steam, such as the bathroom when the shower is running 
and the door is closed, and you can re-affix the screen protector.



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On 5/10/2012 1:29 PM, Traci wrote:

Hi all,

I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using
the speed dots screen covers.

I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models. If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except
f&j, and the other model has f&j covered. Both models have the other
dots sprinkled around.

I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.

For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are
covered, are you able to text without really paying attention to
voiceover? Say for example, you are in a noisy place.

My last concern is the screen placement and longevity. I read a handful
of messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in
place. How annoying for a $10 purchase. Any further thoughts on this? Is
it a good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?

Thanks for the info. In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but
$10 is far more realistic then $1700. :)

Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail

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