Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Yes, you are correct. At least in my BrailleSense OnHand, to move horrizontally I use dots 1 or 4 with the space bar. To move vertically, I use dots 3 or 6 with the space bar. If you haven't already done so, you have to add vertical navigation to the rotor. Then that's where the rotor choice must be in order for this to work. So, for instance, I was just playing hanging with Friends. First I moved the rotor to hints and enabled them. Then I moved the rotor to vertical navigation and went on with my game. It did make it much faster to jump around the screen. Made my day! Veronica Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On 9/24/2012 1:44 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: Am I understanding correctly? Vertical navigation inables both vertical and horizontal navigation? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Wow, I never even thought of that! Thank you David! It makes moving around the home screen a bit faster! Scott On 9/24/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Hi Veronica. Have you tried terminal clipboard yet? I love this feature of the Braille Sense products. I'm hoping they will bring this to the Braille Edge soon. Scott On 9/24/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Yes, you are correct. At least in my BrailleSense OnHand, to move horrizontally I use dots 1 or 4 with the space bar. To move vertically, I use dots 3 or 6 with the space bar. If you haven't already done so, you have to add vertical navigation to the rotor. Then that's where the rotor choice must be in order for this to work. So, for instance, I was just playing hanging with Friends. First I moved the rotor to hints and enabled them. Then I moved the rotor to vertical navigation and went on with my game. It did make it much faster to jump around the screen. Made my day! Veronica Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On 9/24/2012 1:44 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: Am I understanding correctly? Vertical navigation inables both vertical and horizontal navigation? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Wow, I never even thought of that! Thank you David! It makes moving around the home screen a bit faster! Scott On 9/24/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Oh thank you so very much. I'd never really understood vertical navigation before and boy did this ever help! Wow! What fun! Thanks again. Veronica Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On 9/24/2012 10:21 AM, David Chittenden wrote: Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
You can control the rotor from the braille display: Space-bar plus dots 5,6 turns the rotor clockwise, space-bar plus dots 2,3 turn it counter-clockwise. Space-bar plus dot 3 goes to the previous rotor setting and space-bar plus dot 6 goes to the next rotor setting. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:17 PM To: vi Subject: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
hi Veronica. To answer your navigation question about moving across the screen, there is no way that I know of to move quickly across the screen with a braille display. Sometimes, it's just faster to hit the touch screen. Or, for example, you can use space with L to go to the top or space with 4-5-6 to get to the bottom of the screen. Those are really the only ways of navigating around the home screen. Scott On 9/24/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: You can control the rotor from the braille display: Space-bar plus dots 5,6 turns the rotor clockwise, space-bar plus dots 2,3 turn it counter-clockwise. Space-bar plus dot 3 goes to the previous rotor setting and space-bar plus dot 6 goes to the next rotor setting. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:17 PM To: vi Subject: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Wow, I never even thought of that! Thank you David! It makes moving around the home screen a bit faster! Scott On 9/24/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Am I understanding correctly? Vertical navigation inables both vertical and horizontal navigation? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Wow, I never even thought of that! Thank you David! It makes moving around the home screen a bit faster! Scott On 9/24/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Hi, I don't have a Braille display to try this on, but if you know the app you want is the third one, can't you use the vertical navigation from the rotor? So, this way you start on the top left, move right two times and then down once? -- Raul A. Gallegos Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/24/2012 1:02 PM, Scott Davert wrote: hi Veronica. To answer your navigation question about moving across the screen, there is no way that I know of to move quickly across the screen with a braille display. Sometimes, it's just faster to hit the touch screen. Or, for example, you can use space with L to go to the top or space with 4-5-6 to get to the bottom of the screen. Those are really the only ways of navigating around the home screen. Scott On 9/24/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: You can control the rotor from the braille display: Space-bar plus dots 5,6 turns the rotor clockwise, space-bar plus dots 2,3 turn it counter-clockwise. Space-bar plus dot 3 goes to the previous rotor setting and space-bar plus dot 6 goes to the next rotor setting. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:17 PM To: vi Subject: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand.
Yes, up and down arrows move VO to the next rotor item. In the home screens, this gives vertical movement with up and down arrows. In apps, it is inconsistent, which makes sense because it depends on coding. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 25/09/2012, at 8:44, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Am I understanding correctly? Vertical navigation inables both vertical and horizontal navigation? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Navigation question using BrailleSense OnHand. Wow, I never even thought of that! Thank you David! It makes moving around the home screen a bit faster! Scott On 9/24/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Set your rotor to vertical navigation. You will then be able to navigate the grid in all 4 directions. iPhone was designed to be navigated on the display. That is your fastest option. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2012, at 9:17, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Hi everyone! Well, there are many major complaints I have about IOS 6, but I'm trying to make up for them by pairing my BrailleSense OnHand with my iphone 4S. I have done that and am now learning the VO braille commands. Okay, very nice when writing messages. But here's my question. Is there any way to move around the screen besides just going item to item to item? So, if I'm looking for an app that's in the third row and third column, is there no option other than using space-dot 4 to go through the first row, the second row and then into the third till I find my app? I get than in Safari, at least I can change the rotor to do some things. So I'm enjoying reading things in braille, but I am finding it rather slow and inefficient. Do most of you do some of the navigation just on the phone itself and use the braille commands when it suits? Thanks. Veronica -- Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at: http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
