Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Dave 
yes. it is in the share option.

Dave.

From: Robin 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Is it Possible to use Microsoft's Seeing AI App to Identify Photos already 
Present on YourPhone & Provide you a Description of ThePhoto? Just Wondering
At 03:19 PM 7/13/2017, you wrote:

  Thanks Ed, it sounds like I was definitely holding it too close then for most 
of these. Apparently I got lucky once but not again so far. Clearly, more 
practice is required.
  Evan
   
   
  From: Mr. Ed 
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
   
  Hi Evan,
  The bar codes will give you what the item is. The nice thing about the Seeing 
AI app is that it helps you find the bar code. When you press the product 
button and then put the camera on the product and as soon as it sees the bar 
code it will start beeping then as you turn the product or move your iPhone the 
beeps will beep faster and faster when you are right on the bar code. Then just 
hold the iPhone still for just a second or so until you hear it say processing. 
Then it will announce and tell you what the product is. It is quite fast. I 
tested it last night on cans, jars, and boxes and it worked quite well on my 
iPhone 6s plus.
  Just remember to keep it about 10 to 15 inches away from the prodict.
  Mr. Ed
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
   
  Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
  I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all 
Seeing AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then 
Tap Tap See is still easier and very reliable.
  Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.
  Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave 
cooking directions or am I thinking of something else?
  Evan
   
  From: Mr. Ed 
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
   
  Hi Evan,
  When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.
  Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
  Mr. Ed
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
   
  Hi,
  I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on 
my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some 
others here.
  I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
  First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a 
dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No 
People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet 
around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
  Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes 
and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; 
and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but 
then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d 
starve if I had to rely on that for my meals! http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Evan Reese 
Yes, it might be because my iPad Mini 4 has no light, but I made sure the 
lights were on in the rooms where I was using it. I didn’t notice a huge 
battery drain while I was running the app quite a lot yesterday.
As I mentioned, I got the bar code reader working very well. It’s not just food 
you can use it on. My girlfriend and I were looking at her yarn yesterday. Some 
bar codes provide a lot of information, others not so much.
Evan

From: Russ Kiehne 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

I wonder if it’s because the Ipad mini 4 doesn’t have a light like the iphone?

From: Evan Reese 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Thanks Kay, that’s helpful. I’ll keep messing with it.
Evan

From: Kay Malmquist 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

By closer to the barcode we don't mean putting the camera closer to the box we 
mean getting it closer to where the actual location is in fact, you might have 
to back away from the item to find it and read it more clearly.


Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:


Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
had to rely on that for my meals! http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
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RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Cristóbal 
The facial recognition thing feels more like a gimmic since when are you 
actually going to use it in the real world. 

The barcode thing alone makes this app worth it for it for me. Especially the 
beeping indicator to guide you where it is. I know other apps offer a similar 
scanning feature, but playing pin the tale on the donkey for ever and ever on 
every single item often made it an exercise in frustration. I never really used 
them because of this. So far, barcode scanning with this app has been a breeze 
and an over all more efficient task.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Yes, it is. Just find the phonto and share it with seeing AI. If you need more 
help, let me know and I will write out clearer instructions.

Thanks.

 

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net 
<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Is it Possible to use Microsoft's Seeing AI App to Identify Photos already 
Present on YourPhone & Provide you a Description of ThePhoto? Just Wondering


At 03:19 PM 7/13/2017, you wrote:

Thanks Ed, it sounds like I was definitely holding it too close then for most 
of these. Apparently I got lucky once but not again so far. Clearly, more 
practice is required.
Evan
 
 
From: Mr. Ed <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>  
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Hi Evan,
The bar codes will give you what the item is. The nice thing about the Seeing 
AI app is that it helps you find the bar code. When you press the product 
button and then put the camera on the product and as soon as it sees the bar 
code it will start beeping then as you turn the product or move your iPhone the 
beeps will beep faster and faster when you are right on the bar code. Then just 
hold the iPhone still for just a second or so until you hear it say processing. 
Then it will announce and tell you what the product is. It is quite fast. I 
tested it last night on cans, jars, and boxes and it worked quite well on my 
iPhone 6s plus.
Just remember to keep it about 10 to 15 inches away from the prodict.
Mr. Ed
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.

I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all 
Seeing AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then 
Tap Tap See is still easier and very reliable.


Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.

Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave 
cooking directions or am I thinking of something else?


Evan
 
From: Mr. Ed <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>  
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Hi Evan,
When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.
Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
Mr. Ed
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Hi,

I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some 
others here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.


First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.

Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and 
a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then 
it stopped beeping a

Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Yes, it is. Just find the phonto and share it with seeing AI. If you need
more help, let me know and I will write out clearer instructions.

Thanks.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Is it Possible to use Microsoft's Seeing AI App to Identify Photos already
> Present on YourPhone & Provide you a Description of ThePhoto? Just Wondering
>
> At 03:19 PM 7/13/2017, you wrote:
>
> Thanks Ed, it sounds like I was definitely holding it too close then for
> most of these. Apparently I got lucky once but not again so far. Clearly,
> more practice is required.
> Evan
>
>
> *From:* Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:41 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
>
> Hi Evan,
> The bar codes will give you what the item is. The nice thing about the
> Seeing AI app is that it helps you find the bar code. When you press the
> product button and then put the camera on the product and as soon as it
> sees the bar code it will start beeping then as you turn the product or
> move your iPhone the beeps will beep faster and faster when you are right
> on the bar code. Then just hold the iPhone still for just a second or so
> until you hear it say processing. Then it will announce and tell you what
> the product is. It is quite fast. I tested it last night on cans, jars, and
> boxes and it worked quite well on my iPhone 6s plus.
> Just remember to keep it about 10 to 15 inches away from the prodict.
> Mr. Ed
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Evan Reese
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
>
> Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
>
> I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all
> Seeing AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product,
> then Tap Tap See is still easier and very reliable.
>
>
> Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or
> something, that would be great and more worth the effort than doing
> something I can already do easily with another app.
>
> Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave
> cooking directions or am I thinking of something else?
>
>
> Evan
>
> *From:* Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
>
> Hi Evan,
> When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the
> product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then
> go sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and
> you should hear processing then it should tell you the product.
> Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
> Mr. Ed
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Evan Reese
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
>
> Hi,
>
> I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions
> on my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as
> some others here.
> I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
>
>
> First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a
> dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the
> No People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the
> tablet around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no
> success.
>
> Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes
> and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at
> all; and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar
> code, but then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said
> nothing. I’d starve if I had to rely on that for my meals!  I will mention here that, my still favorite app for looking at things, Tap
> Tap See identified every item of food I put in front of it, including those
> I couldn’t identify with Seeing AI’s Product feature. Definitely not
> starve with that!
>
>
> Third, the Scene Beta said something like Seems to be indoor. (Yes, it did
> say indoor.
> Once again, taking a picture in the exact same location with Tap Tap See
> revealed my white kitchen cabinets that I was aiming the camera at.
> Fourth, moderately positive, I tried the Short Text

Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Robin 
Is it Possible to use Microsoft's Seeing AI App 
to Identify Photos already Present on YourPhone & 
Provide you a Description of ThePhoto? Just Wondering

At 03:19 PM 7/13/2017, you wrote:
Thanks Ed, it sounds like I was definitely 
holding it too close then for most of these. 
Apparently I got lucky once but not again so 
far. Clearly, more practice is required.

Evan


From: <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:41 PM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi Evan,
The bar codes will give you what the item is. 
The nice thing about the Seeing AI app is that 
it helps you find the bar code. When you press 
the product button and then put the camera on 
the product and as soon as it sees the bar code 
it will start beeping then as you turn the 
product or move your iPhone the beeps will beep 
faster and faster when you are right on the bar 
code. Then just hold the iPhone still for just a 
second or so until you hear it say processing. 
Then it will announce and tell you what the 
product is. It is quite fast. I tested it last 
night on cans, jars, and boxes and it worked quite well on my iPhone 6s plus.

Just remember to keep it about 10 to 15 inches away from the prodict.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t 
help thinking that if all Seeing AI’s Product 
feature does is give you the name of the 
product, then Tap Tap See is still easier and very reliable.
Now if it gives you more info than that, say 
cooking directions or something, that would be 
great and more worth the effort than doing 
something I can already do easily with another app.
Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them 
anyway, contain microwave cooking directions or 
am I thinking of something else?

Evan

From: <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi Evan,
When you are scanning products you have to hold 
the camera away from the product about 10 to 15 
inches. It depends on how big the product is. 
Then go sideways until the beeps get real fast 
then hold the camera still and you should hear 
processing then it should tell you the product.

Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
Mr. Ed
From: 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried 
out most of the functions on my iPad Mini 4 with 
128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others here.

I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the 
Person item at least half a dozen times, both 
with myself and my girlfriend as the person and 
got the No People message. Not being sure which 
camera was being used, I turned the tablet 
around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at 
least seven or eight boxes and packages on it. 
It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t 
beep at all; and a few, it did beep faster and 
faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then 
it stopped beeping a few inches from the package 
and said nothing. I’d starve if I had to rely on that for my meals! I will mention here that, my still favorite app 
for looking at things, Tap Tap See identified 
every item of food I put in front of it, 
including those I couldn’t identify with 
Seeing AI’s Product feature. Definitely not starve with that!
Third, the Scene Beta said something like Seems 
to be indoor. (Yes, it did say indoor.
Once again, taking a picture in the exact same 
location with Tap Tap See revealed my white 
kitchen cabinets that I was aiming the camera at.
Fourth, moderately positive, I tried the Short 
Text function with pretty good results. It read 
some addresses of paper mail with moderate 
accuracy. It switched me to the Documents 
function when I tried the back cover of a book 
with it. However, I only got snippets of text, 
mostly gibberish, when I aimed it at my laptop screen.
Fifth and finally, the really positive. I am 
impressed with the Document function. I like how 
it guides you until the entire page with all its 
edges is visible. And, as someone else here has 
shown, the OCR is quite good. I tried it with 
mail and a few back covers of books and got 
great results overall. I

Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Russ Kiehne 
I wonder if it’s because the Ipad mini 4 doesn’t have a light like the iphone?

From: Evan Reese 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Thanks Kay, that’s helpful. I’ll keep messing with it.
Evan

From: Kay Malmquist 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

By closer to the barcode we don't mean putting the camera closer to the box we 
mean getting it closer to where the actual location is in fact, you might have 
to back away from the item to find it and read it more clearly.


Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:


Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
had to rely on that for my meals! http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Richard Turner 
Karen,
It is free.
Here is the full name and link:
Here is the full description from the app store. Apparently only English is 
supported if I'm reading the last part of the description correctly.

Description:

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects.   Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  
• Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  • 
Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes 
the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, 
using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package information when 
available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) • People - Saves people’s faces so 
you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their age, gender, and emotions. 
 • Scenes  (early preview) - Hear an overall description of the scene captured. 
 • Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to 
describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.Seeing AI is built to 
help you achieve more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial 
intelligence. As the research progresses, more channels may be added.Visit 
http://SeeingAI.com for more details and instructional videos.Available in 
the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more 
countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and 
later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later models.

Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ 
microsoft.com.


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 14, 2017, at 4:18 AM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
> wrote:

Can it read any other language other than English in short text and
document channel?

On 7/14/17, lenron brown > wrote:
Oh it has been cool getting it to read my computer screen.

On 7/13/17, Kay Malmquist 
> wrote:
I agree with Richard. For this being their first installment it is really
good. I would consider paying for it yet as it is. I'm really going to be
looking forward to upgrades and what they do with it.
On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Richard Turner
>
wrote:

Andy,
You should really read all the messages in a thread.
He stated later that he had figured out what he was doing wrong, and is
much
more positive about the app.
I would gladly pay for this app just for the document scanning, not to
mention the bar code scanning which gives just about as good a results as
the ID Mate  which costs $1299.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Andy Baracco 
> wrote:

Well, you get what you pay for!
Andy

- Original Message -
From: Evan Reese
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:41 PM
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the
functions
on my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as
some others here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half
a
dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got
the
No People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned
the tablet around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with
no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight
boxes
and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at
all; and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar
code, but then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-14 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay 
Can it read any other language other than English in short text and
document channel?

On 7/14/17, lenron brown  wrote:
> Oh it has been cool getting it to read my computer screen.
>
> On 7/13/17, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> I agree with Richard. For this being their first installment it is really
>> good. I would consider paying for it yet as it is. I'm really going to be
>> looking forward to upgrades and what they do with it.
>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Richard Turner
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Andy,
>> You should really read all the messages in a thread.
>> He stated later that he had figured out what he was doing wrong, and is
>> much
>> more positive about the app.
>> I would gladly pay for this app just for the document scanning, not to
>> mention the bar code scanning which gives just about as good a results as
>> the ID Mate  which costs $1299.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>
>>> Well, you get what you pay for!
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Evan Reese
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:41 PM
>>> Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the
>>> functions
>>> on my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as
>>> some others here.
>>> I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
>>> First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half
>>> a
>>> dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got
>>> the
>>> No People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned
>>> the tablet around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with
>>> no success.
>>> Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight
>>> boxes
>>> and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at
>>> all; and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar
>>> code, but then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said
>>> nothing. I’d starve if I had to rely on that for my meals! >> I will mention here that, my still favorite app for looking at things,
>>> Tap
>>> Tap See identified every item of food I put in front of it, including
>>> those I couldn’t identify with Seeing AI’s Product feature. Definitely
>>> not
>>> starve with that!
>>> Third, the Scene Beta said something like Seems to be indoor. (Yes, it
>>> did
>>> say indoor.
>>> Once again, taking a picture in the exact same location with Tap Tap See
>>> revealed my white kitchen cabinets that I was aiming the camera at.
>>> Fourth, moderately positive, I tried the Short Text function with pretty
>>> good results. It read some addresses of paper mail with moderate
>>> accuracy.
>>> It switched me to the Documents function when I tried the back cover of
>>> a
>>> book with it. However, I only got snippets of text, mostly gibberish,
>>> when
>>> I aimed it at my laptop screen.
>>> Fifth and finally, the really positive. I am impressed with the Document
>>> function. I like how it guides you until the entire page with all its
>>> edges is visible. And, as someone else here has shown, the OCR is quite
>>> good. I tried it with mail and a few back covers of books and got great
>>> results overall. I tried it with my laptop screen as well but got no
>>> text.
>>> I like the context sensitive Quick Help that you can get for each
>>> feature
>>> that tells you briefly how to use it.
>>> Some of this stuff may just require more practice. I might be able to
>>> get
>>> better results with the Product feature with more of that. I needed a
>>> bit
>>> of that in aiming the camera when I first got Tap Tap See because I kept
>>> forgetting that the camera is in the upper righthand corner of my iPad
>>> Mini and not at the center. But some of this is still bugs that need to
>>> be
>>> worked out I think.
>>> So not really overwhelmed. For a while at least, for looking at stuff,
>>> except for text, Tap Tap See is still the clearly better app.
>>> Evan
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread lenron brown 
Oh it has been cool getting it to read my computer screen.

On 7/13/17, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> I agree with Richard. For this being their first installment it is really
> good. I would consider paying for it yet as it is. I'm really going to be
> looking forward to upgrades and what they do with it.
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> Andy,
> You should really read all the messages in a thread.
> He stated later that he had figured out what he was doing wrong, and is much
> more positive about the app.
> I would gladly pay for this app just for the document scanning, not to
> mention the bar code scanning which gives just about as good a results as
> the ID Mate  which costs $1299.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
>> Well, you get what you pay for!
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Evan Reese
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:41 PM
>> Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
>>
>> Hi,
>> I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions
>> on my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as
>> some others here.
>> I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
>> First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a
>> dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the
>> No People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned
>> the tablet around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with
>> no success.
>> Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes
>> and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at
>> all; and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar
>> code, but then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said
>> nothing. I’d starve if I had to rely on that for my meals! > I will mention here that, my still favorite app for looking at things, Tap
>> Tap See identified every item of food I put in front of it, including
>> those I couldn’t identify with Seeing AI’s Product feature. Definitely not
>> starve with that!
>> Third, the Scene Beta said something like Seems to be indoor. (Yes, it did
>> say indoor.
>> Once again, taking a picture in the exact same location with Tap Tap See
>> revealed my white kitchen cabinets that I was aiming the camera at.
>> Fourth, moderately positive, I tried the Short Text function with pretty
>> good results. It read some addresses of paper mail with moderate accuracy.
>> It switched me to the Documents function when I tried the back cover of a
>> book with it. However, I only got snippets of text, mostly gibberish, when
>> I aimed it at my laptop screen.
>> Fifth and finally, the really positive. I am impressed with the Document
>> function. I like how it guides you until the entire page with all its
>> edges is visible. And, as someone else here has shown, the OCR is quite
>> good. I tried it with mail and a few back covers of books and got great
>> results overall. I tried it with my laptop screen as well but got no
>> text.
>> I like the context sensitive Quick Help that you can get for each feature
>> that tells you briefly how to use it.
>> Some of this stuff may just require more practice. I might be able to get
>> better results with the Product feature with more of that. I needed a bit
>> of that in aiming the camera when I first got Tap Tap See because I kept
>> forgetting that the camera is in the upper righthand corner of my iPad
>> Mini and not at the center. But some of this is still bugs that need to be
>> worked out I think.
>> So not really overwhelmed. For a while at least, for looking at stuff,
>> except for text, Tap Tap See is still the clearly better app.
>> Evan
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Kay Malmquist 
I agree with Richard. For this being their first installment it is really good. 
I would consider paying for it yet as it is. I'm really going to be looking 
forward to upgrades and what they do with it.
On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Andy,
You should really read all the messages in a thread.
He stated later that he had figured out what he was doing wrong, and is much 
more positive about the app.
I would gladly pay for this app just for the document scanning, not to mention 
the bar code scanning which gives just about as good a results as the ID Mate  
which costs $1299.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

> Well, you get what you pay for!
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Evan Reese
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:41 PM
> Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
> 
> Hi,
> I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on 
> my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some 
> others here.
> I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
> First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a 
> dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No 
> People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the 
> tablet around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no 
> success.
> Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes 
> and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; 
> and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but 
> then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d 
> starve if I had to rely on that for my meals!  I will mention here that, my still favorite app for looking at things, Tap 
> Tap See identified every item of food I put in front of it, including those I 
> couldn’t identify with Seeing AI’s Product feature. Definitely not starve 
> with that!
> Third, the Scene Beta said something like Seems to be indoor. (Yes, it did 
> say indoor.
> Once again, taking a picture in the exact same location with Tap Tap See 
> revealed my white kitchen cabinets that I was aiming the camera at.
> Fourth, moderately positive, I tried the Short Text function with pretty good 
> results. It read some addresses of paper mail with moderate accuracy. It 
> switched me to the Documents function when I tried the back cover of a book 
> with it. However, I only got snippets of text, mostly gibberish, when I aimed 
> it at my laptop screen.
> Fifth and finally, the really positive. I am impressed with the Document 
> function. I like how it guides you until the entire page with all its edges 
> is visible. And, as someone else here has shown, the OCR is quite good. I 
> tried it with mail and a few back covers of books and got great results 
> overall. I tried it with my laptop screen as well but got no text.
> I like the context sensitive Quick Help that you can get for each feature 
> that tells you briefly how to use it.
> Some of this stuff may just require more practice. I might be able to get 
> better results with the Product feature with more of that. I needed a bit of 
> that in aiming the camera when I first got Tap Tap See because I kept 
> forgetting that the camera is in the upper righthand corner of my iPad Mini 
> and not at the center. But some of this is still bugs that need to be worked 
> out I think.
> So not really overwhelmed. For a while at least, for looking at stuff, except 
> for text, Tap Tap See is still the clearly better app.
> Evan
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Richard Turner 
Andy,
You should really read all the messages in a thread.
He stated later that he had figured out what he was doing wrong, and is much 
more positive about the app.
I would gladly pay for this app just for the document scanning, not to mention 
the bar code scanning which gives just about as good a results as the ID Mate  
which costs $1299.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Andy Baracco 
> wrote:

Well, you get what you pay for!
Andy

- Original Message -
From: Evan Reese
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:41 PM
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
had to rely on that for my meals! mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Andy Baracco 
Well, you get what you pay for!
Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Evan Reese 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:41 PM
  Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed


  Hi,
  I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on 
my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some 
others here.
  I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
  First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a 
dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No 
People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet 
around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
  Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes 
and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; 
and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but 
then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Evan Reese 
Thanks Ed, it sounds like I was definitely holding it too close then for most 
of these. Apparently I got lucky once but not again so far. Clearly, more 
practice is required.
Evan


From: Mr. Ed 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi Evan,

The bar codes will give you what the item is. The nice thing about the Seeing 
AI app is that it helps you find the bar code. When you press the product 
button and then put the camera on the product and as soon as it sees the bar 
code it will start beeping then as you turn the product or move your iPhone the 
beeps will beep faster and faster when you are right on the bar code. Then just 
hold the iPhone still for just a second or so until you hear it say processing. 
Then it will announce and tell you what the product is. It is quite fast. I 
tested it last night on cans, jars, and boxes and it worked quite well on my 
iPhone 6s plus.

Just remember to keep it about 10 to 15 inches away from the prodict.

Mr. Ed

 

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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.

I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all Seeing 
AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then Tap Tap See 
is still easier and very reliable.

Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.

Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave cooking 
directions or am I thinking of something else?

Evan

 

From: Mr. Ed 

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Hi Evan,

When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.

Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.

Mr. Ed

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Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Hi,

I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.

I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.

First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.

Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Evan Reese 
Thanks Pam. Since I got it to work on only one item so far, and the More 
Info button didn't appear, I had forgotten about that.

That does make it worth the time and effort to keep playing with it though.
Evan

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From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Evan,

This app will read the instructions if they are available.  After it tells 
you what the product is, there will be a "more info" button if instructions 
are available.


Pam



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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all 
Seeing AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then 
Tap Tap See is still easier and very reliable.
Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or 
something, that would be great and more worth the effort than doing 
something I can already do easily with another app.
Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave 
cooking directions or am I thinking of something else?

Evan

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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi Evan,
When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.

Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
Mr. Ed
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Of Evan Reese

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on 
my iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some 
others here.

I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a 
dozen times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No 
People message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the 
tablet around a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no 
success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes 
and packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; 
and a few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, 
but then it stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. 
I’d starve if I had to rely on that for my meals! I will mention here that, my still favorite app for looking at things, Tap 
Tap See identified every item of food I put in front of it, including those 
I couldn’t identify with Seeing AI’s Product feature. Definitely not starve 
with that!
Third, the Scene Beta said something like Seems to be indoor. (Yes, it did 
say indoor.
Once again, taking a picture in the exact same location with Tap Tap See 
revealed my white kitchen cabinets that I was aiming the camera at.
Fourth, moderately positive, I tried the Short Text function with pretty 
good results. It read some addresses of paper mail with moderate accuracy. 
It switched me to the Documents function when I tried the back cover of a 
book with it. However, I only got snippets of text, mostly gibberish, when I 
aimed it at my laptop screen.
Fifth and finally, the really positive. I am impressed with the Document 
function. I like how it guides you until the entire page with all its edges 
is visible. And, as someone else here has shown, the OCR is quite good. I 
tried it with mail and a few back covers of books and got great results 
overall. I tried it with my laptop screen as well but got no text.
I like the context sensitive Quick Help that you can get for each feature 
that tells you briefly how to use it.
Some of this stuff may just require more practice. I might be able to get 
better results with the Product feature with more of that. I needed a bit of 
that in aiming the camera when I first got Tap Tap See because I kept 
forgetting that the camera is in the upper righthand corner of my iPad Mini 
and not at the center. But some of this is still bugs that need to be worked 
out I think.
So not really overwhelmed. For a while at least, for looking at stuff, 
except for text, Tap Tap See is still the clearly better app.

Evan
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Kay Malmquist 
When you scan and when it recognizes the barcode flip to the right and see if 
there is any more info button. we have gotten it the Tele instructions and 
ingredient list and all kinds of things like that. Hope this helps.

Kay Malmquist
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On Jul 13, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all Seeing 
AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then Tap Tap See 
is still easier and very reliable.
Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.
Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave cooking 
directions or am I thinking of something else?
Evan
 
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Hi Evan,
When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.
Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
Mr. Ed
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Kay Malmquist 
We have been using the barcode reader on this app on bags of frozen food. 
Usually the condensation presents a problem even for other barcode readers and 
it didn't seem to have a bit of trouble with it at all.

Kay Malmquist
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On Jul 13, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

Hi Evan,
When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.
Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
Mr. Ed
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Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed
 
Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Mr. Ed 
Hi Evan,

The bar codes will give you what the item is. The nice thing about the Seeing 
AI app is that it helps you find the bar code. When you press the product 
button and then put the camera on the product and as soon as it sees the bar 
code it will start beeping then as you turn the product or move your iPhone the 
beeps will beep faster and faster when you are right on the bar code. Then just 
hold the iPhone still for just a second or so until you hear it say processing. 
Then it will announce and tell you what the product is. It is quite fast. I 
tested it last night on cans, jars, and boxes and it worked quite well on my 
iPhone 6s plus.

Just remember to keep it about 10 to 15 inches away from the prodict.

Mr. Ed

 

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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.

I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all Seeing 
AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then Tap Tap See 
is still easier and very reliable.

Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.

Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave cooking 
directions or am I thinking of something else?

Evan

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Hi Evan,

When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.

Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.

Mr. Ed

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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Hi,

I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.

I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.

First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.

Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
Evan,

This app will read the instructions if they are available.  After it tells you 
what the product is, there will be a "more info" button if instructions are 
available.

Pam



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Reese [ment...@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all Seeing 
AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then Tap Tap See 
is still easier and very reliable.
Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.
Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave cooking 
directions or am I thinking of something else?
Evan

From: Mr. Ed<mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi Evan,
When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.
Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.
Mr. Ed
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Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Evan Reese 
Thanks Ed, Kay said much the same.
I’ll keep playing with it; although, I can’t help thinking that if all Seeing 
AI’s Product feature does is give you the name of the product, then Tap Tap See 
is still easier and very reliable.
Now if it gives you more info than that, say cooking directions or something, 
that would be great and more worth the effort than doing something I can 
already do easily with another app.
Don’t those bar codes, at least some of them anyway, contain microwave cooking 
directions or am I thinking of something else?
Evan

From: Mr. Ed 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

Hi Evan,

When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.

Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.

Mr. Ed

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Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Hi,

I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.

I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.

First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.

Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Evan Reese 
Thanks Kay, that’s helpful. I’ll keep messing with it.
Evan

From: Kay Malmquist 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

By closer to the barcode we don't mean putting the camera closer to the box we 
mean getting it closer to where the actual location is in fact, you might have 
to back away from the item to find it and read it more clearly.


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On Jul 13, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:


Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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RE: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Mr. Ed 
Hi Evan,

When you are scanning products you have to hold the camera away from the 
product about 10 to 15 inches. It depends on how big the product is. Then go 
sideways until the beeps get real fast then hold the camera still and you 
should hear processing then it should tell you the product.

Like I said you are probably holding the camera to close to the product.

Mr. Ed

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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

 

Hi,

I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.

I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.

First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.

Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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Re: Seeing AI Not Really Overwhelmed

2017-07-13 Thread Kay Malmquist 
By closer to the barcode we don't mean putting the camera closer to the box we 
mean getting it closer to where the actual location is in fact, you might have 
to back away from the item to find it and read it more clearly.

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On Jul 13, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Hi,
I got the app earlier this afternoon, and tried out most of the functions on my 
iPad Mini 4 with 128GB of memory. I can’t say I’m as impressed as some others 
here.
I guess I’ll start with the negatives first and end on a positive note.
First, like so many other people, I tried the Person item at least half a dozen 
times, both with myself and my girlfriend as the person and got the No People 
message. Not being sure which camera was being used, I turned the tablet around 
a few times so that each camera was facing me but with no success.
Second, I tried the bar code reader. I tried at least seven or eight boxes and 
packages on it. It got one item. Some of the rest it didn’t beep at all; and a 
few, it did beep faster and faster as I got closer to the bar code, but then it 
stopped beeping a few inches from the package and said nothing. I’d starve if I 
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