RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
I’ ve noticed siri is not as smart as she used to be. At least for me since ios 11 she does not do as well. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I don’t want to join in on the ruckus or anything, but it surely is disappointing when Seri lets you down. As it surely annoys and frustrates me. But I suppose that’s my problem. Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Smarter is better than not smart at all. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups- Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:28:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid For all of Siri's flaws and shortcomings, it/she has gotten a little better at context. For instance, I can now ask Siri if it is going to rain today, and follow that up with, "How about tomorrow?" Before iOS 11, when I asked about another day without mentioning rain, I would always get the response back that Siri couldn't find that information, or didn't know what I was talking about. Now though in iOS 11, I have been able to ask those questions and get the right answer back. Siri is not perfect, we all know that. However, it does seem to be gradually getting a little smarter. Is Siri to the level of Alexa, not hardly, but every little bit counts. Wayne On 9/23/17, phillip tracy <tracyp4...@msn.com> wrote: > Janet, before what you just said starts a firestorm, let me say this. Maybe > you didn't read about all the hype Apple put into claiming in iOS 11 about a > revamped, much smarter Siri. That is in their own words, not mine. If you > really wanted to get picky, you could say that was false advertising. > Everybody knows Siri is not human, and you're getting the wrong impression > if we are misleading you to believe that she is! The point is, we have seen > Siri work much better in the past. The term stupid is not necessarily > referring to Siri as a stupid person, instead, the term stupid is referring > to the fact that much of the added intelligence added to Siri, supposedly, > is either not there at all, or is not functioning if it is. > I would not go so far as to say the people that develop and program Siri are > stupid, but they have become careless, rushing to deliver a product to beat > or keep up with competition, but what good is it if it doesn't work as > promised. They should have considered delaying a little, they need to put > more work in to providing verification of received reported issues and > higher priority into fixing them, especially when it comes to > accessibility. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:05 PM, John Panarese > <jpanar...@gmail.com > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com%3cmailto:jpanar...@gmail.com> > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with > SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work > with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other > instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making > you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned > to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. > I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and > get directions for later today. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com%3cmailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Mike Ulrich > <mulr...@centurylink.net > <mailto:mulr..
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
I recently got the Google Home mini. The Google assistant on my mini and Android device totally trashes Siri. Enough said from my end as the thread is moving off topic. All I'll say is Apple better step up their game, or they'll be overtaken by Google. Sadam Ahmed On 16/12/2017 12:36 PM, Bonnie Blose wrote: I think you meant quarter. Much as I hate football, let's put innings in baseball. I did love that sport at one time and have fond memories of it still. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Hi all, I agree with you in every way Siri is still pretty stupid she messes it all the time instead of knowing anything she always wants to look it up on the web and comes up with things that are not even relevant. I can also say Siri is not ever serious! About getting anything right six! If Siri was in a football game Siri would’ve lost in the first inning. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:41 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she just doesn't understand and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being asked if I want to read something on the Web. I want Siri to go on speaking what he/she reads because that's why I've asked for his/her help, because I want the information and I want it quickly! At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an answer or how to do something and other times they just say they don't know. As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she should be leading the way for sure! Carol P - UK On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: Why don't you use proper punctuation? Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary did so eloquently. On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! -- Yours sincerely, Sadam Ahmed JAWS & iOS certified iPhone: + 61 435 892 944 Direct: +61 9939 2153 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
OT: quote of the day that got me a good belly laugh:- If Siri had been in a football game, he/she would have lost in the first innings. Sums up Her(in my case) confusion. - Original Message - From: "Michael Irons" <leomik...@cox.net> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Hi all, I agree with you in every way Siri is still pretty stupid she messes it all the time instead of knowing anything she always wants to look it up on the web and comes up with things that are not even relevant. I can also say Siri is not ever serious! About getting anything right six! If Siri was in a football game Siri would’ve lost in the first inning. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:41 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many > occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she > just doesn't understand and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being > asked if I want to read something on the Web. I want Siri > to go on speaking what he/she reads because that's why I've asked for his/her > help, because I want the information and I want it > quickly! > > At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an > answer or how to do something and other times they just > say they don't know. As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she > should be leading the way for sure! > > Carol P - UK >> On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >> Why don't you use proper punctuation? >> >> Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. >> >> Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary >> did so eloquently. >> >>> On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: >>> if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list >>> for them (very strange) siri is not human try and >>> remember that. >>> >>> -Original Message----- From: Mike Ulrich >>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid >>> >>> I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! >>> >>> Michael D. Ulrich >>> Just an ordinary average blind guy! >>> Florida Council of the Blind >>> Fundraising Committee Member >>> !**! >>> FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
I think you meant quarter. Much as I hate football, let's put innings in baseball. I did love that sport at one time and have fond memories of it still. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Hi all, I agree with you in every way Siri is still pretty stupid she messes it all the time instead of knowing anything she always wants to look it up on the web and comes up with things that are not even relevant. I can also say Siri is not ever serious! About getting anything right six! If Siri was in a football game Siri would’ve lost in the first inning. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:41 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many > occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she just doesn't understand > and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being asked if I want to read > something on the Web. I want Siri to go on speaking what he/she reads because > that's why I've asked for his/her help, because I want the information and I > want it quickly! > > At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an > answer or how to do something and other times they just say they don't know. > As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she should be leading the way > for sure! > > Carol P - UK >> On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >> Why don't you use proper punctuation? >> >> Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. >> >> Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary >> did so eloquently. >> >>> On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: >>> if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list >>> for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich >>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid >>> >>> I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! >>> >>> Michael D. Ulrich >>> Just an ordinary average blind guy! >>> Florida Council of the Blind >>> Fundraising Committee Member >>> !**! >>> FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
It annoys me when I ask Siri about something and, instead of giving me an answer, he, merely, brings up a website which I have to sort out with my finger. I do remember that, in my early days as an iPhone user, he would ask me if I wantede him to read it to me, but I haven't had that request, now, for yonks and then more yonks! Jewel -- From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:41 AM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she just doesn't understand and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being asked if I want to read something on the Web. I want Siri to go on speaking what he/she reads because that's why I've asked for his/her help, because I want the information and I want it quickly! At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an answer or how to do something and other times they just say they don't know. As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she should be leading the way for sure! Carol P - UK On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > > Why don't you use proper punctuation? > > Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. > > Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as > Mary did so eloquently. > > On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: >> if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a >> list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. >> >> -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich >> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid >> >> I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! >> >> Michael D. Ulrich >> Just an ordinary average blind guy! >> Florida Council of the Blind >> Fundraising Committee Member >> !**! >> FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! >> Saturday March 24, 2018! >> Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 >> !**! >> Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 >> Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 >> Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed >> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid >> >> >> Good call Marry, >> >> I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that >> again? >> >> Google's natural language processing is way better. >> >> On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely >>> obtuse when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. >>> It will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and >>> such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? >>> Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store >>> name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't >>> you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? >>> Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't >>> get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty >>> elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on >>> Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the >>> real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I >>> care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when >>> you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless >>> back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can re
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Hi all, I agree with you in every way Siri is still pretty stupid she messes it all the time instead of knowing anything she always wants to look it up on the web and comes up with things that are not even relevant. I can also say Siri is not ever serious! About getting anything right six! If Siri was in a football game Siri would’ve lost in the first inning. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:41 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many > occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she just doesn't understand > and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being asked if I want to read > something on the Web. I want Siri to go on speaking what he/she reads because > that's why I've asked for his/her help, because I want the information and I > want it quickly! > > At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an > answer or how to do something and other times they just say they don't know. > As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she should be leading the way > for sure! > > Carol P - UK >> On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >> Why don't you use proper punctuation? >> >> Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. >> >> Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary >> did so eloquently. >> >>> On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: >>> if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list >>> for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich >>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid >>> >>> I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! >>> >>> Michael D. Ulrich >>> Just an ordinary average blind guy! >>> Florida Council of the Blind >>> Fundraising Committee Member >>> !**! >>> FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Yes, Mary said it very well for us all! I too feel there are just too many occasions when you ask a simple question and he/she just doesn't understand and give a meaningful answer. I'm tired of being asked if I want to read something on the Web. I want Siri to go on speaking what he/she reads because that's why I've asked for his/her help, because I want the information and I want it quickly! At present, most assistants have this quirk when sometimes they know an answer or how to do something and other times they just say they don't know. As others have said, Siri was the first and he/she should be leading the way for sure! Carol P - UK On 9/24/2017 7:04 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: Why don't you use proper punctuation? Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary did so eloquently. On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? Mary Sent from my iPhone --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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The Australian bloke who is sitting in the Siri chair is one of my dearest friends. Does this say something about how thin on the ground are my dear friends if a computer can be the * dearest among them? Jewel -- From: "Sadam Ahmed" <li...@sadamahmed.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 12:03 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Apology was, Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Hi all, I'd like to sincerely apologise for my earlier message regarding this thread. It was something that was destined for the trash and was sent in the heat of the moment. I will take care to read threads in full next time instead of jumping the gun! Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apology was, Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Hi all, I'd like to sincerely apologise for my earlier message regarding this thread. It was something that was destined for the trash and was sent in the heat of the moment. I will take care to read threads in full next time instead of jumping the gun! Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
That won't happen for sure. Siri is the way she is is because they are using differential privacy to keep our data safe while using machine learning. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups- Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 3:32:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid We have iPhones because of their outstanding accessibility, the access to a huge eco system of songs, movies and all that. This does, however, not mean one can't be critical of things which can be better. Apple was at the forefront with SIRI/digital assistant technology back in 2011 when the iPhone 4S came out. Since then they have of course improved it some, but others who started later like the Amazon Echo and Google Assistant can answer many more questions well and there is nothing wrong in holding Apple responsible for improving SIRI. It's never black and white, I also sometimes swear at SIRI when she can't answer a basic question which Google has no problems answering and self-voicing. On the other hand I understand that the Google Assistant can't even do simple things on the phone like turning on bluetooth although of course this may have changed. Wouldn't it be great if Apple and Google were competing in a friendly fashion and Apple was able to use Google for searches and stuff like that? Of course this won't happen, but it's a nice thought. Could you imagine where we would be if all these companies would work together to make these technologies as good as they can and no doubt some day will be? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse > when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come > back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does > that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already > gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one > such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked > for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old > Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is > pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on > Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real > world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. > But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone > number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so > called Assistant? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched a
RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
We have iPhones because of their outstanding accessibility, the access to a huge eco system of songs, movies and all that. This does, however, not mean one can't be critical of things which can be better. Apple was at the forefront with SIRI/digital assistant technology back in 2011 when the iPhone 4S came out. Since then they have of course improved it some, but others who started later like the Amazon Echo and Google Assistant can answer many more questions well and there is nothing wrong in holding Apple responsible for improving SIRI. It's never black and white, I also sometimes swear at SIRI when she can't answer a basic question which Google has no problems answering and self-voicing. On the other hand I understand that the Google Assistant can't even do simple things on the phone like turning on bluetooth although of course this may have changed. Wouldn't it be great if Apple and Google were competing in a friendly fashion and Apple was able to use Google for searches and stuff like that? Of course this won't happen, but it's a nice thought. Could you imagine where we would be if all these companies would work together to make these technologies as good as they can and no doubt some day will be? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse > when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come > back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does > that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already > gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one > such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked > for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old > Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is > pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on > Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real > world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. > But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone > number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so > called Assistant? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all mem
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Who said it was a crime to express your opinion so "eloquently?" Not me. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups- Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mike Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:52:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I don’t want to join in on the ruckus or anything, but it surely is disappointing when Seri lets you down. As it surely annoys and frustrates me. But I suppose that’s my problem. Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Smarter is better than not smart at all. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups- Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:apple411+subscr...@groups.io> iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com<mailto:the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com<mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:28:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid For all of Siri's flaws and shortcomings, it/she has gotten a little better at context. For instance, I can now ask Siri if it is going to rain today, and follow that up with, "How about tomorrow?" Before iOS 11, when I asked about another day without mentioning rain, I would always get the response back that Siri couldn't find that information, or didn't know what I was talking about. Now though in iOS 11, I have been able to ask those questions and get the right answer back. Siri is not perfect, we all know that. However, it does seem to be gradually getting a little smarter. Is Siri to the level of Alexa, not hardly, but every little bit counts. Wayne On 9/23/17, phillip tracy <tracyp4...@msn.com<mailto:tracyp4...@msn.com>> wrote: > Janet, before what you just said starts a firestorm, let me say this. Maybe > you didn't read about all the hype Apple put into claiming in iOS 11 about a > revamped, much smarter Siri. That is in their own words, not mine. If you > really wanted to get picky, you could say that was false advertising. > Everybody knows Siri is not human, and you're getting the wrong impression > if we are misleading you to believe that she is! The point is, we have seen > Siri work much better in the past. The term stupid is not necessarily > referring to Siri as a stupid person, instead, the term stupid is referring > to the fact that much of the added intelligence added to Siri, supposedly, > is either not there at all, or is not functioning if it is. > I would not go so far as to say the people that develop and program Siri are > stupid, but they have become careless, rushing to deliver a product to beat > or keep up with competition, but what good is it if it doesn't work as > promised. They should have considered delaying a little, they need to put > more work in to providing verification of received reported issues and > higher priority into fixing them, especially when it comes to > accessibility. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:05 PM, John Panarese > <jpanar...@gmail.com<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com%3cmailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>>> > wrote: > > I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with > SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work > with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other > instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making > you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned > to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. > I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and > get directions for later today. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, > j...@macfortheblind.com<mailto:j...@macforthebl
RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
I don’t want to join in on the ruckus or anything, but it surely is disappointing when Seri lets you down. As it surely annoys and frustrates me. But I suppose that’s my problem. Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Smarter is better than not smart at all. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups- Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:28:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid For all of Siri's flaws and shortcomings, it/she has gotten a little better at context. For instance, I can now ask Siri if it is going to rain today, and follow that up with, "How about tomorrow?" Before iOS 11, when I asked about another day without mentioning rain, I would always get the response back that Siri couldn't find that information, or didn't know what I was talking about. Now though in iOS 11, I have been able to ask those questions and get the right answer back. Siri is not perfect, we all know that. However, it does seem to be gradually getting a little smarter. Is Siri to the level of Alexa, not hardly, but every little bit counts. Wayne On 9/23/17, phillip tracy <tracyp4...@msn.com> wrote: > Janet, before what you just said starts a firestorm, let me say this. Maybe > you didn't read about all the hype Apple put into claiming in iOS 11 about a > revamped, much smarter Siri. That is in their own words, not mine. If you > really wanted to get picky, you could say that was false advertising. > Everybody knows Siri is not human, and you're getting the wrong impression > if we are misleading you to believe that she is! The point is, we have seen > Siri work much better in the past. The term stupid is not necessarily > referring to Siri as a stupid person, instead, the term stupid is referring > to the fact that much of the added intelligence added to Siri, supposedly, > is either not there at all, or is not functioning if it is. > I would not go so far as to say the people that develop and program Siri are > stupid, but they have become careless, rushing to deliver a product to beat > or keep up with competition, but what good is it if it doesn't work as > promised. They should have considered delaying a little, they need to put > more work in to providing verification of received reported issues and > higher priority into fixing them, especially when it comes to > accessibility. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:05 PM, John Panarese > <jpanar...@gmail.com > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com%3cmailto:jpanar...@gmail.com> > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with > SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work > with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other > instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making > you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned > to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. > I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and > get directions for later today. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com%3cmailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Mike Ulrich > <mulr...@centurylink.net > <mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net%3cmailto:mulr...@centurylink.net> > <mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>> wrote: > > I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! > > Michael D. Ulrich > Just an ordinary average blind guy! > Florida Council of the Blind > Fundraising Committee Member > !**! &g
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Why don't you use proper punctuation? Where not all Apple sheep thinking the sun shines out of Tim's behind. Also, Last time I checked it wasn't a crime to express ones opinion as Mary did so eloquently. On 24/09/2017 3:06 AM, Janet Bell wrote: if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Smarter is better than not smart at all. Maria Reyes Owner of the following groups- Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:28:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid For all of Siri's flaws and shortcomings, it/she has gotten a little better at context. For instance, I can now ask Siri if it is going to rain today, and follow that up with, "How about tomorrow?" Before iOS 11, when I asked about another day without mentioning rain, I would always get the response back that Siri couldn't find that information, or didn't know what I was talking about. Now though in iOS 11, I have been able to ask those questions and get the right answer back. Siri is not perfect, we all know that. However, it does seem to be gradually getting a little smarter. Is Siri to the level of Alexa, not hardly, but every little bit counts. Wayne On 9/23/17, phillip tracy <tracyp4...@msn.com> wrote: > Janet, before what you just said starts a firestorm, let me say this. Maybe > you didn't read about all the hype Apple put into claiming in iOS 11 about a > revamped, much smarter Siri. That is in their own words, not mine. If you > really wanted to get picky, you could say that was false advertising. > Everybody knows Siri is not human, and you're getting the wrong impression > if we are misleading you to believe that she is! The point is, we have seen > Siri work much better in the past. The term stupid is not necessarily > referring to Siri as a stupid person, instead, the term stupid is referring > to the fact that much of the added intelligence added to Siri, supposedly, > is either not there at all, or is not functioning if it is. > I would not go so far as to say the people that develop and program Siri are > stupid, but they have become careless, rushing to deliver a product to beat > or keep up with competition, but what good is it if it doesn't work as > promised. They should have considered delaying a little, they need to put > more work in to providing verification of received reported issues and > higher priority into fixing them, especially when it comes to > accessibility. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:05 PM, John Panarese > <jpanar...@gmail.com<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with > SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work > with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other > instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making > you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned > to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. > I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and > get directions for later today. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com<mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Mike Ulrich > <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>> wrote: > > I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! > > Michael D. Ulrich > Just an ordinary average blind guy! > Florida Council of the Blind > Fundraising Committee Member > !**! > FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! > Saturday March 24, 2018! > Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 > !**! > Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 > Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 > Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net> > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Mary Otten; > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid > > > Good call Marry, > > I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that > again? > > Google's natural language processing is way better. > > On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > One of my pet peeve's about Siri
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
For all of Siri's flaws and shortcomings, it/she has gotten a little better at context. For instance, I can now ask Siri if it is going to rain today, and follow that up with, "How about tomorrow?" Before iOS 11, when I asked about another day without mentioning rain, I would always get the response back that Siri couldn't find that information, or didn't know what I was talking about. Now though in iOS 11, I have been able to ask those questions and get the right answer back. Siri is not perfect, we all know that. However, it does seem to be gradually getting a little smarter. Is Siri to the level of Alexa, not hardly, but every little bit counts. Wayne On 9/23/17, phillip tracy <tracyp4...@msn.com> wrote: > Janet, before what you just said starts a firestorm, let me say this. Maybe > you didn't read about all the hype Apple put into claiming in iOS 11 about a > revamped, much smarter Siri. That is in their own words, not mine. If you > really wanted to get picky, you could say that was false advertising. > Everybody knows Siri is not human, and you're getting the wrong impression > if we are misleading you to believe that she is! The point is, we have seen > Siri work much better in the past. The term stupid is not necessarily > referring to Siri as a stupid person, instead, the term stupid is referring > to the fact that much of the added intelligence added to Siri, supposedly, > is either not there at all, or is not functioning if it is. > I would not go so far as to say the people that develop and program Siri are > stupid, but they have become careless, rushing to deliver a product to beat > or keep up with competition, but what good is it if it doesn't work as > promised. They should have considered delaying a little, they need to put > more work in to providing verification of received reported issues and > higher priority into fixing them, especially when it comes to > accessibility. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:05 PM, John Panarese > <jpanar...@gmail.com<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with > SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work > with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other > instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making > you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned > to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. > I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and > get directions for later today. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com<mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Mike Ulrich > <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>> wrote: > > I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! > > Michael D. Ulrich > Just an ordinary average blind guy! > Florida Council of the Blind > Fundraising Committee Member > !**! > FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! > Saturday March 24, 2018! > Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 > !**! > Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 > Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 > Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net> > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Mary Otten; > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid > > > Good call Marry, > > I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that > again? > > Google's natural language processing is way better. > > On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when > you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back > and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that > look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave > you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on > that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the >
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Janet, before what you just said starts a firestorm, let me say this. Maybe you didn't read about all the hype Apple put into claiming in iOS 11 about a revamped, much smarter Siri. That is in their own words, not mine. If you really wanted to get picky, you could say that was false advertising. Everybody knows Siri is not human, and you're getting the wrong impression if we are misleading you to believe that she is! The point is, we have seen Siri work much better in the past. The term stupid is not necessarily referring to Siri as a stupid person, instead, the term stupid is referring to the fact that much of the added intelligence added to Siri, supposedly, is either not there at all, or is not functioning if it is. I would not go so far as to say the people that develop and program Siri are stupid, but they have become careless, rushing to deliver a product to beat or keep up with competition, but what good is it if it doesn't work as promised. They should have considered delaying a little, they need to put more work in to providing verification of received reported issues and higher priority into fixing them, especially when it comes to accessibility. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:05 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and get directions for later today. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com<mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Mike Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>> wrote: I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net> -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com<mailto:sa...@sadamahmed.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Car
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Because we have IPhones and we should be able to discuss Siri short comings as well as the things we do enjoy about the IPhone. Most of the time I am ok with my phone but Siri is lacking in a few ways. I get so annoyed with it, then I end up using google or Alexa. On 9/23/17, Janet Bell <ja...@jan25.plus.com> wrote: > if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list > for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Ulrich > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid > > I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! > > Michael D. Ulrich > Just an ordinary average blind guy! > Florida Council of the Blind > Fundraising Committee Member > !**! > FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! > Saturday March 24, 2018! > Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 > !**! > Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 > Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 > Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sadam Ahmed > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid > > > Good call Marry, > > I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that > again? > > Google's natural language processing is way better. > > On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse >> when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come >> >> back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does >> >> that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already >> >> gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one >> such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked >> for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old >> Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is >> pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on >> Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real >> world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. >> >> But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone >> >> number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so >> >> called Assistant? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > -- > Sadam Ahmed > > JAWS certified, 2017 > > Mobile: > > + 61 435 892 944 > > FaceTime, iMessage & email > > sa...@sadamahmed.com > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
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if you all think that siri is so stupid why have iPhones and be on a list for them (very strange) siri is not human try and remember that. -Original Message- From: Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; 'Mary Otten' ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
I've actually not noticed anything different in iOS 11 than iOS 10 with SIRI. Sometimes, she works brilliantly, and if you take the time to work with her and learn how to ask things, she does a fantastic job. In other instances, you get the imp version of SIRI who seems to decide that making you work for everything is a lot of fun. In cases like that, I have learned to either restart the phone or just find another way to get at what I want. I just used SIRI quite successfully to search for restaurant information and get directions for later today. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Mike Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net> wrote: > > I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! > > Michael D. Ulrich > Just an ordinary average blind guy! > Florida Council of the Blind > Fundraising Committee Member > !**! > FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! > Saturday March 24, 2018! > Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 > !**! > Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 > Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 > Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sadam Ahmed > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid > > > Good call Marry, > > I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that > again? > > Google's natural language processing is way better. > > On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >> One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when >> you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back >> and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that >> look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave >> you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on >> that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the >> first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still >> can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty >> elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, >> anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I >> know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what >> about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and >> don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called >> Assistant? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > -- > Sadam Ahmed > > JAWS certified, 2017 > > Mobile: > > + 61 435 892 944 > > FaceTime, iMessage & email > > sa...@sadamahmed.com > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com >
RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
When I want a phone number I google it. Connie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 1:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; 'Mary Otten'; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri is still pretty stupid I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when > you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back > and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that > look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave > you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on > that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the > first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still > can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary > stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have > other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do > all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world > situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to > engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received
RE: Siri is still pretty stupid
I too , agree wholeheartedly. Big time PITA! Michael D. Ulrich Just an ordinary average blind guy! Florida Council of the Blind Fundraising Committee Member !**! FCB 7th Annual Blind Fishing Tournament! Saturday March 24, 2018! Cape Coral Yacht Club; 5819 Driftwood Pkwy. Cape Coral, Fl. 33904 !**! Mike’s home phone: 239-540-7431 Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845 Mike’s email: mulr...@centurylink.net -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri is still pretty stupid Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when > you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back > and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that > look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave > you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on > that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the > first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still > can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary > stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have > other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do > all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world > situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to > engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri is still pretty stupid
Good call Marry, I still get a lot of somethings gone wrong Sadam. Or, Can you try that again? Google's natural language processing is way better. On 24/09/2017 1:06 AM, Mary Otten wrote: One of my pet peeve's about Siri has been that it is absolutely obtuse when you asked to find a specific place on a specific street. It will come back and say I found such and such a place on such and such a Street, does that look good? Or is that the one you wanted? Well, Siri, since I already gave you the street name of the store name, and I know there is only one such on that street, why don't you just give me the phone number I asked for in the first place? Google does this and so does Alexa. But good old Siri still can't get this right even in iOS 11. Come on Apple. This is pretty elementary stuff. What the hell did you do with all your work on Siri, anyway? Have other people found improvements to Siri in the real world? I know it can do all sorts of music trivia about which I care not. But what about real world situations? You know, like when you want a phone number and don't want to engage in meaningless back-and-forth with your so called Assistant? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- Sadam Ahmed JAWS certified, 2017 Mobile: + 61 435 892 944 FaceTime, iMessage & email sa...@sadamahmed.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
