RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Alan Lemly
Sieghard,

Thanks for that explanation. I'll give the slide keyboard a try after I upgrade 
and gauge its performance vis-à-vis FlickType. I expect I'll be sticking with 
FlickType since I use it for over 90% of my keyboard input and have spent a lot 
of time learning it and customizing its dictionary. But it is great that Apple 
is developing these other keyboard features to enhance on screen keyboard input.

Alan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Alternative words show up above the keyboard as always, so far I have not 
figured out if there is a way to explore these suggestions with a gesture, but 
you can definitely put your finger there and then check them. I tried actually 
exactly your example and when Voiceover announced "fix" and I checked "fox was 
the first other recommendation.
I am not saying this is perfect yet, but I am amazed by the accuracy of the 
predictions which I think is much better than Flicktype and after all, 
Flicktype may give quite a lot of other options, but if you end up flicking 
down 4 or 5 or 6 times to see if the word you actually wanted is there that is 
not so efficient, either.
Richard provided a link to a Podcast  on Applevis about the slide keyboard, I 
haven't listened to it yet, but maybe Thomas has more insights into how you can 
make it work even better as it already does. I just like the fact that it's 
just there part of your regular keyboard, I don't have to switch to a third 
party keyboard, Flicktype in our example, and maybe dismiss Flicktype because 
for some reason I want to use the regular keyboard etc.
The fact is I don't like to type on my iPhone unless I absolutely have to and I 
use dictation wherever possible and if I really wanted to type a longer email 
or planned to have a longer back and forth chat via text whether it's in the 
messages app, WhatsApp, Skype or Facebook Messenger, then I rather use my 
Bluetooth keyboard for the typing part.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Sieghard,

I'm curious about this sliding keyboard and how it differs from FlickType. I 
understand from your below post the difference in the sliding of the finger as 
opposed to FlickType's tapping of the keys. I'm still a bit fuzzy on how 
Voiceover announces the words. So lets say I'm using the sliding keyboard and I 
want to enter the word fox. I place my finger on the f key, wait for the tone, 
and slide to where I think the o and x are. However, let's say Voiceover 
announces fix instead of fox. What happens next for me to get the correct word? 
And I would try it myself except I'm still running iOS 12.4.1.

Thanks.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, Sep

RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Alternative words show up above the keyboard as always, so far I have not 
figured out if there is a way to explore these suggestions with a gesture, but 
you can definitely put your finger there and then check them. I tried actually 
exactly your example and when Voiceover announced "fix" and I checked "fox was 
the first other recommendation.
I am not saying this is perfect yet, but I am amazed by the accuracy of the 
predictions which I think is much better than Flicktype and after all, 
Flicktype may give quite a lot of other options, but if you end up flicking 
down 4 or 5 or 6 times to see if the word you actually wanted is there that is 
not so efficient, either.
Richard provided a link to a Podcast  on Applevis about the slide keyboard, I 
haven't listened to it yet, but maybe Thomas has more insights into how you can 
make it work even better as it already does. I just like the fact that it's 
just there part of your regular keyboard, I don't have to switch to a third 
party keyboard, Flicktype in our example, and maybe dismiss Flicktype because 
for some reason I want to use the regular keyboard etc.
The fact is I don't like to type on my iPhone unless I absolutely have to and I 
use dictation wherever possible and if I really wanted to type a longer email 
or planned to have a longer back and forth chat via text whether it's in the 
messages app, WhatsApp, Skype or Facebook Messenger, then I rather use my 
Bluetooth keyboard for the typing part.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Sieghard,

I'm curious about this sliding keyboard and how it differs from FlickType. I 
understand from your below post the difference in the sliding of the finger as 
opposed to FlickType's tapping of the keys. I'm still a bit fuzzy on how 
Voiceover announces the words. So lets say I'm using the sliding keyboard and I 
want to enter the word fox. I place my finger on the f key, wait for the tone, 
and slide to where I think the o and x are. However, let's say Voiceover 
announces fix instead of fox. What happens next for me to get the correct word? 
And I would try it myself except I'm still running iOS 12.4.1.

Thanks.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you have 
set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set up Apple 
pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.

Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 

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Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Yolanda Thompson
So, as you slide your finger to the place on the keyboard you believe
the subsequent letter is, as mentioned earlier a prediction of what
you might be striving to type is presented.  So if you slid from w and
head toward h and why is spoken and that is your first word then lift
your finger and get ready for the second word.
I think it is a great tool.

On 9/24/19, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Reggie,
> If you have Slide to Type in the rotor, you can turn the rotor to it,
> then flick up/down to turn it on or off. Once on, you can type in the
> method that Sieghard described. It sounds like you don't have to have
> it in the rotor to use it, the rotor is just 1 of the ways to activate
> it.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 9/24/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I've got flictype on my phone and I have tried typing simple words and
>> just can't do it.  I can't even figure out where to begin to type.  I
>> just get a lot of weird clicking sounds if I try and type.
>>
>> On 9/24/19, regina alvarado  wrote:
>>> I guess I can’t explain properly. You have not had it happen to you
>>> apparently. I can see the keyboard sometimes and it will turn off on its
>>> own. May be fixed with the upgrade. I have used it four this whole email
>>> and
>>> it works fairly well. It will take a little time and practice, though.
>>> Thanks for the help. Oh, when you type you don’t have to put in spaces,
>>> only
>>> when you put in punctuation. Pretty neat.
>>>
>>> Reggie Alvarado
>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Reggie,
>>>
>>> I am not sure I understand, do you want to turn it off permanently or do
>>> you
>>> want to use it? If you haven't turned it off then it is as I said, you
>>> don't
>>> have to do anything to use it except what I explained, when you are in
>>> an
>>> edit field and the on-screen keyboard is there, find the first letter of
>>> the
>>> word you want to type, wait for the little tone and then start sliding
>>> your
>>> finger to all the letters.
>>> If you have a word with a double letter, as in the double t in "letter"
>>> you
>>> just slide to the T, then move on to the last 2 letters, E and R, it
>>> will
>>> still predict the word and insert it correctly.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> regina alvarado
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:38 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging
>>>
>>> Sieghardt, Thanks for the info. I guess once again I didn't make myself
>>> understood. I saw where you could turn it off. It just came up on my
>>> screen.
>>> I didn't take it off at that time, but apparently somehow it got turned
>>> off.
>>> Is the only place to turn it on in Keyboards? This happened twice now.
>>> The
>>> first time I fixed in keyboards, but it went off again. It's as if it is
>>> in
>>> rotor, but it is not. I thought it would just be there and I could use
>>> it
>>> if
>>> I wished.
>>>
>>> Reggie Alvarado
>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to
>>> find the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest
>>> on
>>> that letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you
>>> want this to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone
>>> you
>>> start sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's
>>> important that you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the
>>> letter
>>> and never to lift your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover
>>> speak
>>> the word you want, then lift to insert the word, find the starting
>>> letter
>>> of
>>> the next word and repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no
>>> need
>>> to insert a manual space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar
>>> to
>>> Flicktype except that instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of
>>> the
>>> word you start with the definite first letter and then slide. It works
>>> remarkably well and I think if somebody really practiced this and by
&

Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Wayne Merritt
Reggie,
If you have Slide to Type in the rotor, you can turn the rotor to it,
then flick up/down to turn it on or off. Once on, you can type in the
method that Sieghard described. It sounds like you don't have to have
it in the rotor to use it, the rotor is just 1 of the ways to activate
it.

Wayne

On 9/24/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I've got flictype on my phone and I have tried typing simple words and
> just can't do it.  I can't even figure out where to begin to type.  I
> just get a lot of weird clicking sounds if I try and type.
>
> On 9/24/19, regina alvarado  wrote:
>> I guess I can’t explain properly. You have not had it happen to you
>> apparently. I can see the keyboard sometimes and it will turn off on its
>> own. May be fixed with the upgrade. I have used it four this whole email
>> and
>> it works fairly well. It will take a little time and practice, though.
>> Thanks for the help. Oh, when you type you don’t have to put in spaces,
>> only
>> when you put in punctuation. Pretty neat.
>>
>> Reggie Alvarado
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Hi Reggie,
>>
>> I am not sure I understand, do you want to turn it off permanently or do
>> you
>> want to use it? If you haven't turned it off then it is as I said, you
>> don't
>> have to do anything to use it except what I explained, when you are in an
>> edit field and the on-screen keyboard is there, find the first letter of
>> the
>> word you want to type, wait for the little tone and then start sliding
>> your
>> finger to all the letters.
>> If you have a word with a double letter, as in the double t in "letter"
>> you
>> just slide to the T, then move on to the last 2 letters, E and R, it will
>> still predict the word and insert it correctly.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> regina alvarado
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging
>>
>> Sieghardt, Thanks for the info. I guess once again I didn't make myself
>> understood. I saw where you could turn it off. It just came up on my
>> screen.
>> I didn't take it off at that time, but apparently somehow it got turned
>> off.
>> Is the only place to turn it on in Keyboards? This happened twice now.
>> The
>> first time I fixed in keyboards, but it went off again. It's as if it is
>> in
>> rotor, but it is not. I thought it would just be there and I could use it
>> if
>> I wished.
>>
>> Reggie Alvarado
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>
>> The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to
>> find the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest
>> on
>> that letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you
>> want this to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone
>> you
>> start sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's
>> important that you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the
>> letter
>> and never to lift your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover
>> speak
>> the word you want, then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter
>> of
>> the next word and repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no
>> need
>> to insert a manual space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar
>> to
>> Flicktype except that instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the
>> word you start with the definite first letter and then slide. It works
>> remarkably well and I think if somebody really practiced this and by
>> "really" I mean hours and hours of practice, that person could learn to
>> type
>> super fast with this. I think the predictions are better than in
>> Flicktype,
>> I did words like "Netatmo" and it actually got it right the first time.
>> This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who
>> won't
>> get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think
>> this is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple
>> tune on a piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of
>> dedicated
>> practicing to be really good at it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Holly
>> Sen

Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I've got flictype on my phone and I have tried typing simple words and
just can't do it.  I can't even figure out where to begin to type.  I
just get a lot of weird clicking sounds if I try and type.

On 9/24/19, regina alvarado  wrote:
> I guess I can’t explain properly. You have not had it happen to you
> apparently. I can see the keyboard sometimes and it will turn off on its
> own. May be fixed with the upgrade. I have used it four this whole email and
> it works fairly well. It will take a little time and practice, though.
> Thanks for the help. Oh, when you type you don’t have to put in spaces, only
> when you put in punctuation. Pretty neat.
>
> Reggie Alvarado
>
>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>
> Hi Reggie,
>
> I am not sure I understand, do you want to turn it off permanently or do you
> want to use it? If you haven't turned it off then it is as I said, you don't
> have to do anything to use it except what I explained, when you are in an
> edit field and the on-screen keyboard is there, find the first letter of the
> word you want to type, wait for the little tone and then start sliding your
> finger to all the letters.
> If you have a word with a double letter, as in the double t in "letter" you
> just slide to the T, then move on to the last 2 letters, E and R, it will
> still predict the word and insert it correctly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging
>
> Sieghardt, Thanks for the info. I guess once again I didn't make myself
> understood. I saw where you could turn it off. It just came up on my screen.
> I didn't take it off at that time, but apparently somehow it got turned off.
> Is the only place to turn it on in Keyboards? This happened twice now. The
> first time I fixed in keyboards, but it went off again. It's as if it is in
> rotor, but it is not. I thought it would just be there and I could use it if
> I wished.
>
> Reggie Alvarado
>
>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>
> The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to
> find the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on
> that letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you
> want this to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you
> start sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's
> important that you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter
> and never to lift your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak
> the word you want, then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of
> the next word and repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need
> to insert a manual space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to
> Flicktype except that instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the
> word you start with the definite first letter and then slide. It works
> remarkably well and I think if somebody really practiced this and by
> "really" I mean hours and hours of practice, that person could learn to type
> super fast with this. I think the predictions are better than in Flicktype,
> I did words like "Netatmo" and it actually got it right the first time.
> This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't
> get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think
> this is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple
> tune on a piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated
> practicing to be really good at it.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Holly
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging
>
> Reggie:
>
> I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you
> have set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set
> up Apple pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.
>
> Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that
> you have authorized.
>
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Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread regina alvarado
I guess I can’t explain properly. You have not had it happen to you apparently. 
I can see the keyboard sometimes and it will turn off on its own. May be fixed 
with the upgrade. I have used it four this whole email and it works fairly 
well. It will take a little time and practice, though. Thanks for the help. Oh, 
when you type you don’t have to put in spaces, only when you put in 
punctuation. Pretty neat. 

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

Hi Reggie,

I am not sure I understand, do you want to turn it off permanently or do you 
want to use it? If you haven't turned it off then it is as I said, you don't 
have to do anything to use it except what I explained, when you are in an edit 
field and the on-screen keyboard is there, find the first letter of the word 
you want to type, wait for the little tone and then start sliding your finger 
to all the letters.
If you have a word with a double letter, as in the double t in "letter" you 
just slide to the T, then move on to the last 2 letters, E and R, it will still 
predict the word and insert it correctly.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Sieghardt, Thanks for the info. I guess once again I didn't make myself 
understood. I saw where you could turn it off. It just came up on my screen. I 
didn't take it off at that time, but apparently somehow it got turned off. Is 
the only place to turn it on in Keyboards? This happened twice now. The first 
time I fixed in keyboards, but it went off again. It's as if it is in rotor, 
but it is not. I thought it would just be there and I could use it if I wished.

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you have 
set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set up Apple 
pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.

Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 

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RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Alan Lemly
Sieghard,

I'm curious about this sliding keyboard and how it differs from FlickType. I 
understand from your below post the difference in the sliding of the finger as 
opposed to FlickType's tapping of the keys. I'm still a bit fuzzy on how 
Voiceover announces the words. So lets say I'm using the sliding keyboard and I 
want to enter the word fox. I place my finger on the f key, wait for the tone, 
and slide to where I think the o and x are. However, let's say Voiceover 
announces fix instead of fox. What happens next for me to get the correct word? 
And I would try it myself except I'm still running iOS 12.4.1.

Thanks.

Alan Lemly

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you have 
set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set up Apple 
pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.

Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 

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RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Reggie,

I am not sure I understand, do you want to turn it off permanently or do you 
want to use it? If you haven't turned it off then it is as I said, you don't 
have to do anything to use it except what I explained, when you are in an edit 
field and the on-screen keyboard is there, find the first letter of the word 
you want to type, wait for the little tone and then start sliding your finger 
to all the letters.
If you have a word with a double letter, as in the double t in "letter" you 
just slide to the T, then move on to the last 2 letters, E and R, it will still 
predict the word and insert it correctly.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Sieghardt, Thanks for the info. I guess once again I didn't make myself 
understood. I saw where you could turn it off. It just came up on my screen. I 
didn't take it off at that time, but apparently somehow it got turned off. Is 
the only place to turn it on in Keyboards? This happened twice now. The first 
time I fixed in keyboards, but it went off again. It's as if it is in rotor, 
but it is not. I thought it would just be there and I could use it if I wished.

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you have 
set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set up Apple 
pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.

Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 

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Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-24 Thread regina alvarado
Sieghardt, Thanks for the info. I guess once again I didn't make myself 
understood. I saw where you could turn it off. It just came up on my screen. I 
didn't take it off at that time, but apparently somehow it got turned off. Is 
the only place to turn it on in Keyboards? This happened twice now. The first 
time I fixed in keyboards, but it went off again. It's as if it is in rotor, 
but it is not. I thought it would just be there and I could use it if I wished.

Reggie Alvarado 

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you have 
set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set up Apple 
pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.

Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 

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RE: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The slide keyboard if enabled is just there, all you do to use it is to find 
the first letter of the word you want to type, let your finger rest on that 
letter for a second or maybe just less (you can adjust how long you want this 
to be in settings somewhere) and when you hear the little tone you start 
sliding to all the letters of the word you want to type. It's important that 
you slide your finger approx.. to the position of the letter and never to lift 
your finger until you are done or you hear Voiceover speak the word you want, 
then lift to insert the word, find the starting letter of the next word and 
repeat by waiting a moment, then sliding. There is no need to insert a manual 
space, it does it for you. It works somewhat similar to Flicktype except that 
instead of tapping the screen in the pattern of the word you start with the 
definite first letter and then slide. It works remarkably well and I think if 
somebody really practiced this and by "really" I mean hours and hours of 
practice, that person could learn to type super fast with this. I think the 
predictions are better than in Flicktype, I did words like "Netatmo" and it 
actually got it right the first time.
This will be a feature you either love or hate, there will be many who won't 
get it and many who don't want to spend the time practicing, but I think this 
is like playing an instrument, you may know how to tap out a simple tune on a 
piano, but it takes hundreds and thousands of hours of dedicated practicing to 
be really good at it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you have 
set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set up Apple 
pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.

Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 

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Re: Slide keyboard and Apple Pay and Apple ID charging

2019-09-23 Thread Holly

Reggie:

I am not sure about your first question, but I do know that the card you 
have set up for your Apple ID is separate from Apple pay.  You have to set 
up Apple pay separately to be used with your passcode and touch ID.


Your card that is in Apple ID will be used for apps and monthly charges that 
you have authorized. 


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