RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-07 Thread Mike Ulrich 
Hi again Chip,

Never mind my last reply to this thread, I’m just now reading your reply.

 

Too bad this Eli app isn’t accessible with Voice Over, but ain’t that the way 
it usually goes for the blind?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Not so much in my opinion.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

 

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.

So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

 

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?

I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulr...@centurylink.net

 

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RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-07 Thread Mike Ulrich 
Hi Chip,

I don’t understand it, when I pull up the Eli app, there are no buttons or 
anything on the screen, as I’m using the app in voice over?

What buttons or other things do you find on the app when you’re using it in 
voice over?

 

 

Thanks!..Mike

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Maybe the camera lens needs cleaning?  Hard to see why it would not work, I 
found it worked easily the very first time I tried.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Same here.



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!


On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Digit Eyes has never worked for me. However, I've been told by other successful 
users of the app that it works; I've just never been able to get it to scan 
product bar codes. 

On 4/6/2017 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You probably could use the labels you already bought for Digit Eyes.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind Iphone 
list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech stuff at the 
Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps it’s his sighted gal 
pal helping him along?

 

Thanks for straightening me out!

I’ll look into Digit Eyes.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Hi Mike,

 

Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and you can 
order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof ones which can go 
in the washing machine for labelling clothing.

I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what the one 
review that was listed says:

 

Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star

 by TallyChip 

Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired could do 
better than this with their app design, which offers no feedback at all via 
voice over as to how to use it or control it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

 

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.

So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

 

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?

I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulr...@centurylink.net

 

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RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-07 Thread Chip Orange 
Maybe the camera lens needs cleaning?  Hard to see why it would not work, I 
found it worked easily the very first time I tried.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Same here.



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!


On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Digit Eyes has never worked for me. However, I've been told by other successful 
users of the app that it works; I've just never been able to get it to scan 
product bar codes. 

On 4/6/2017 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You probably could use the labels you already bought for Digit Eyes.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind Iphone 
list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech stuff at the 
Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps it’s his sighted gal 
pal helping him along?

 

Thanks for straightening me out!

I’ll look into Digit Eyes.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Hi Mike,

 

Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and you can 
order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof ones which can go 
in the washing machine for labelling clothing.

I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what the one 
review that was listed says:

 

Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star

 by TallyChip 

Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired could do 
better than this with their app design, which offers no feedback at all via 
voice over as to how to use it or control it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

 

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.

So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

 

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?

I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulr...@centurylink.net

 

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RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-07 Thread Chip Orange 
Not so much in my opinion.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

 

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.

So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

 

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?

I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulr...@centurylink.net

 

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Re: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-06 Thread Anthony Vece 
Same here.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On Apr 6, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Digit Eyes has never worked for me. However, I've been told by other 
> successful users of the app that it works; I've just never been able to get 
> it to scan product bar codes. 
>> On 4/6/2017 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> You probably could use the labels you already bought for Digit Eyes.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Ulrich
>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>>  
>> Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind Iphone 
>> list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech stuff at the 
>> Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps it’s his sighted 
>> gal pal helping him along?
>>  
>> Thanks for straightening me out!
>> I’ll look into Digit Eyes.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>>  
>> Hi Mike,
>>  
>> Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and you 
>> can order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof ones which 
>> can go in the washing machine for labelling clothing.
>> I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what the one 
>> review that was listed says:
>>  
>> Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star
>>  by TallyChip
>> Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired could do 
>> better than this with their app design, which offers no feedback 
>> at all via voice over as to how to use it or control it.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike Ulrich
>> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice   Over 
>> accessibility
>>  
>> So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?
>>  
>> I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app 
>> was indeed accessible and worked very well.
>> So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the 
>> labels finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not 
>> accessible in voice over.
>>  
>> Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?
>> I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
>> operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
>> I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!
>>  
>> Michael D. Ulrich
>> Just an ordinary average blind guy
>> Florida Council of the Blind
>> Fundraising Committee Member
>>  
>> Home: 239-540-7431
>> Cell: 239-565-5845
>> Email: mulr...@centurylink.net
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Re: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-06 Thread Shaf Patel 
Digit Eyes has never worked for me. However, I've been told by other
successful users of the app that it works; I've just never been able to
get it to scan product bar codes.
On 4/6/2017 3:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>
> You probably could use the labels you already bought for Digit Eyes.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Ulrich
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:24 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>
>  
>
> Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind
> Iphone list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech
> stuff at the Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps
> it’s his sighted gal pal helping him along?
>
>  
>
> Thanks for straightening me out!
>
> I’ll look into Digit Eyes.
>
>  
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:02 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>
>  
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>  
>
> Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and
> you can order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof
> ones which can go in the washing machine for labelling clothing.
>
> I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what
> the one review that was listed says:
>
>  
>
> *Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star*
>
> * *by TallyChip
>
> Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired
> could do better than this with their app design, which offers no
> feedback at all via voice over as to how to use it or control it.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>  
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Ulrich
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility
>
>  
>
> So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?
>
>  
>
> I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli
> app was indeed accessible and worked very well.
>
> So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once
> the labels finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally
> not accessible in voice over.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?
>
> I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if
> they can operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If
> that’s the case, I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get
> their Sh*t straight!
>
>  
>
> Michael D. Ulrich
>
> Just an ordinary average blind guy
>
> Florida Council of the Blind
>
> Fundraising Committee Member
>
>  
>
> Home: 239-540-7431
>
> Cell: 239-565-5845
>
> Email: mulr...@centurylink.net <mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>
>
>  
>
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RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
You probably could use the labels you already bought for Digit Eyes.


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Mike Ulrich
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Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind Iphone 
list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech stuff at the 
Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps it’s his sighted gal 
pal helping him along?

Thanks for straightening me out!
I’ll look into Digit Eyes.

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Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

Hi Mike,

Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and you can 
order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof ones which can go 
in the washing machine for labelling clothing.
I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what the one 
review that was listed says:

Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star
 by TallyChip
Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired could do 
better than this with their app design, which offers no feedback at all via 
voice over as to how to use it or control it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.
So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?
I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

Michael D. Ulrich
Just an ordinary average blind guy
Florida Council of the Blind
Fundraising Committee Member

Home: 239-540-7431
Cell: 239-565-5845
Email: mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>

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RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-06 Thread Mike Ulrich 
Thanks Sieghard, I guess I just fell for typical BS on various blind Iphone 
list serves. Plus a good blind buddy that teaches blind tech stuff at the 
Collier County Lighthouse told me Eli rocks. But perhaps it’s his sighted gal 
pal helping him along?

 

Thanks for straightening me out!

I’ll look into Digit Eyes.

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:02 PM
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Subject: RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

Hi Mike,

 

Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and you can 
order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof ones which can go 
in the washing machine for labelling clothing.

I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what the one 
review that was listed says:

 

Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star

 by TallyChip 

Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired could do 
better than this with their app design, which offers no feedback at all via 
voice over as to how to use it or control it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

 

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

 

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.

So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

 

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?

I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

 

Home: 239-540-7431

Cell: 239-565-5845

Email: mulr...@centurylink.net

 

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RE: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

2017-04-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Mike,

Why didn’t you stick with Digit-Eyes, it’s not free, but it works and you can 
order labels or make/use your own, they even have waterproof ones which can go 
in the washing machine for labelling clothing.
I had a look at the Invision ELI app on the app store, here is what the one 
review that was listed says:

Poorly designed app barely usable 1 Star
 by TallyChip
Do you think the company selling products to the visually impaired could do 
better than this with their app design, which offers no feedback at all via 
voice over as to how to use it or control it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Envision Eli app; question on Voice Over accessibility

So what’s the call, is this app accessible or not?

I thought I had heard on one of these blind IPhone lists, that the Eli app was 
indeed accessible and worked very well.
So I downloaded the Eli app and purchased a set of labels. But once the labels 
finally came in, I fired up the app only to find it totally not accessible in 
voice over.

Can anyone help me with this? Perhaps I’m just doing something wrong?
I might try to find a sightling and turn off voice over and see if they can 
operate the app and if it works well out of voice over. If that’s the case, 
I’ll get on the app developer and tell him to get their Sh*t straight!

Michael D. Ulrich
Just an ordinary average blind guy
Florida Council of the Blind
Fundraising Committee Member

Home: 239-540-7431
Cell: 239-565-5845
Email: mulr...@centurylink.net

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