RE: Weird issue with VO Volume
Alan, thanks for this very helpful post. I wonder if you might clarify something for me. I set my Change with Buttons setting to off as you described below and also set my overall volume for everything to 100%. Can you confirm that if I now use my volume buttons on the side to change the volume for whatever I'm doing that this volume will apply for all phone audio whether it be phone calls, music playing, VO, or whatever? What if I use the rotor volume control to change VO volume in some app. Will that new volume setting be reflected everywhere in the phone? Thanks for clarifying this for me. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Weird issue with VO Volume Lisa, most blind people have change with buttons turned on. This means that it's possible that focus is on something else at the time when you were adjusting the volume and the level got changed. The first year I had my iPhone this drove me crazy with the volume changing and once or twice I had to do a reset to get voice over back. When change with buttons is turned off, you set an over all volume for every thing. I have mine set to 1 hundred percent. That doesn't mean though that your phone is always at full volume. It just means that all the elements are at 1 hundred percent which is where you want them to be. Now, the only thing the buttons on the side of your phone do is to adjust the master volume. So if you turn the volume down, that's all that happens is the master volume goes down but if you get a phone call, the volume will be where you set at with the master volume and no more screw-ups with volume changes on one part of your phone and not on another. Don't take my word for it, see how it works for you. It's easy enough to turn it back. Here's how to do it. 1 Open Settings. 2 Flick right with 1 finger to get to sounds and single-finger double tap. 3 Flick right to get to change with buttons Do a single finger double tap to toggle the button from on to off. Flick left to get to the sound volume setting and single finger double tap. Now flick 1 finger up or down to adjust the master volume setting. I have it set to 1 hundred percent. Now done and hit the back button to exit the settings. You won't have any more accidental volume changes. I've had my phone this way now for about a year and wouldn't turn on change with buttons back on again even on a bet. To easy to get yourself in trouble accidentally. HTH Alan Original Message - From: Lisa belville missktlab1...@frontier.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:16 PM Subject: Weird issue with VO Volume Hi, all. Using an iPhone 5 with Amazon Basics BT Keyboard. I somehow have the volume for voice over popping up all of the time. It doesn't matter if I'm in the app store or settings, the percentage for the Voice Over volume is always there, so I inadvertently adjust the speech volume when I try moving around on the screen. The up and down arrows on the keyboard also control the volume no matter where I am, so it's hard to really move around without making things too loud or too soft. this is definitely the VO volume, because the regular navigation noises don't change while the voice output does. Any ideas how I can fix this? It's driving me crazy. Forget love, I'd rather fall into chocolate. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups
Re: Weird issue with VO Volume
Yes, that was it. Thanks so much. Forget love, I'd rather fall into chocolate. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: RE: Weird issue with VO Volume Hi Lisa, You must have volume enabled on the rotor and your rotor is set to volume. Just turn your rotor to characters or words and your problem will go away. This is the same issue as somebody else had last week, he asked why Voiceover would say Heading not found. In his case he had the rotor turned to Headings maybe when he was in Safari or the app store and then when he was elsewhere and flicked up or down Voiceover was trying to find the next heading which of course wasn't there. I find it best to have the rotor set to characters or words unless I really need to use it for something else. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa belville Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Weird issue with VO Volume Hi, all. Using an iPhone 5 with Amazon Basics BT Keyboard. I somehow have the volume for voice over popping up all of the time. It doesn't matter if I'm in the app store or settings, the percentage for the Voice Over volume is always there, so I inadvertently adjust the speech volume when I try moving around on the screen. The up and down arrows on the keyboard also control the volume no matter where I am, so it's hard to really move around without making things too loud or too soft. this is definitely the VO volume, because the regular navigation noises don't change while the voice output does. Any ideas how I can fix this? It's driving me crazy. Forget love, I'd rather fall into chocolate. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Weird issue with VO Volume
Funny you saying that. That's where I like to leave mine at as well But I also make sure change with buttons is turned off. See my previous post for the details. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Weird issue with VO Volume Hi Lisa, You must have volume enabled on the rotor and your rotor is set to volume. Just turn your rotor to characters or words and your problem will go away. This is the same issue as somebody else had last week, he asked why Voiceover would say Heading not found. In his case he had the rotor turned to Headings maybe when he was in Safari or the app store and then when he was elsewhere and flicked up or down Voiceover was trying to find the next heading which of course wasn't there. I find it best to have the rotor set to characters or words unless I really need to use it for something else. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa belville Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Weird issue with VO Volume Hi, all. Using an iPhone 5 with Amazon Basics BT Keyboard. I somehow have the volume for voice over popping up all of the time. It doesn't matter if I'm in the app store or settings, the percentage for the Voice Over volume is always there, so I inadvertently adjust the speech volume when I try moving around on the screen. The up and down arrows on the keyboard also control the volume no matter where I am, so it's hard to really move around without making things too loud or too soft. this is definitely the VO volume, because the regular navigation noises don't change while the voice output does. Any ideas how I can fix this? It's driving me crazy. Forget love, I'd rather fall into chocolate. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Weird issue with VO Volume
Lisa, most blind people have change with buttons turned on. This means that it's possible that focus is on something else at the time when you were adjusting the volume and the level got changed. The first year I had my iPhone this drove me crazy with the volume changing and once or twice I had to do a reset to get voice over back. When change with buttons is turned off, you set an over all volume for every thing. I have mine set to 1 hundred percent. That doesn't mean though that your phone is always at full volume. It just means that all the elements are at 1 hundred percent which is where you want them to be. Now, the only thing the buttons on the side of your phone do is to adjust the master volume. So if you turn the volume down, that's all that happens is the master volume goes down but if you get a phone call, the volume will be where you set at with the master volume and no more screw-ups with volume changes on one part of your phone and not on another. Don't take my word for it, see how it works for you. It's easy enough to turn it back. Here's how to do it. 1 Open Settings. 2 Flick right with 1 finger to get to sounds and single-finger double tap. 3 Flick right to get to change with buttons Do a single finger double tap to toggle the button from on to off. Flick left to get to the sound volume setting and single finger double tap. Now flick 1 finger up or down to adjust the master volume setting. I have it set to 1 hundred percent. Now done and hit the back button to exit the settings. You won't have any more accidental volume changes. I've had my phone this way now for about a year and wouldn't turn on change with buttons back on again even on a bet. To easy to get yourself in trouble accidentally. HTH Alan Original Message - From: Lisa belville missktlab1...@frontier.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:16 PM Subject: Weird issue with VO Volume Hi, all. Using an iPhone 5 with Amazon Basics BT Keyboard. I somehow have the volume for voice over popping up all of the time. It doesn't matter if I'm in the app store or settings, the percentage for the Voice Over volume is always there, so I inadvertently adjust the speech volume when I try moving around on the screen. The up and down arrows on the keyboard also control the volume no matter where I am, so it's hard to really move around without making things too loud or too soft. this is definitely the VO volume, because the regular navigation noises don't change while the voice output does. Any ideas how I can fix this? It's driving me crazy. Forget love, I'd rather fall into chocolate. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
