Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Just touch the screen, and don't lift your finger. You'll hear two tones, then VoiceOver will tell you you are in Explore Mode. As to the phone moving, if you have it right between the two modes, as in around a 45-degree angle, then even a small movement will cause it to switch. If you have it more definitely one way or the other, it should be fine. Remember that this is relative to the ground, so if you have it flat on your leg, but your leg is already at an angle to the floor, then the phone will see that as being at the same angle. > On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: > > How do I get into explore mode? Is there a way to lock the keys? Even if I > don't move my phone at all, it will switch modes on me. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit >> fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an >> App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me. >> >> Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time >> in Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just >> as easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille >> input natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never >> use it now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more >> efficient. >>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail >> <mailto:jldai...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the >>> dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the >>> phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver >> <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility >>>> settings. I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. >>>> >>>> Dan Beaver >>>> >>>> From: Jessica Dail <mailto:jldai...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>>> >>>> My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this >>>> feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the >>>> buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it >>>> another try. >>>> If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would >>>> greatly appreciate it. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver >>> <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password >>>>> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other >>>>> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the >>>>> braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error >>>>> from the service I am using. >>>>> >>>>> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it >>>>> before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. >>>>> >>>>> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have >>>>> to say about it. >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Dan Beaver >>>>> >>>>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protectedfields? >>>>> >>>>> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my >>>>> passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as >>>>> Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe >>>>> right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when >>&g
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
How do I get into explore mode? Is there a way to lock the keys? Even if I don't move my phone at all, it will switch modes on me. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit > fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an > App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me. > > Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in > Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as > easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input > natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it > now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more > efficient. >> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: >> >> The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the >> dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the >> phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. >>> I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. >>> >>> Dan Beaver >>> >>> From: Jessica Dail >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>> >>> My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this >>> feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the >>> buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it >>> another try. >>> If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would >>> greatly appreciate it. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password >>>> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other >>>> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the >>>> braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error >>>> from the service I am using. >>>> >>>> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before >>>> clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. >>>> >>>> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have >>>> to say about it. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> Dan Beaver >>>> >>>> From: Alex Hall >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>>> >>>> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, >>>> and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). >>>> You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least >>>> I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your >>>> password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the >>>> enter gesture) to submit and you're done. >>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The >>>>> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l >>>>> characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some >>>>> degree. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>>> Of Jessica Dail >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>>>> >>>>> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for >>>>> me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device >>>>> will not let you lock
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me. Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more efficient. > On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail wrote: > > The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the > dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone > in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. >> I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. >> >> Dan Beaver >> >> From: Jessica Dail <mailto:jldai...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >> >> My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this >> feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the >> buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it >> another try. >> If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly >> appreciate it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver > <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password >>> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other >>> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the >>> braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error >>> from the service I am using. >>> >>> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before >>> clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. >>> >>> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have >>> to say about it. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> Dan Beaver >>> >>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>> >>> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, >>> and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You >>> need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've >>> found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password >>> for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter >>> gesture) to submit and you're done. >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau >>> <mailto:dlmlao...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The >>>> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters >>>> allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>>> >>>> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for >>>> me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will >>>> not let you lock the position of the buttons. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran >>> <mailto:batsfly...@me.com>
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: > > Hi, > > Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. > I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. > > Dan Beaver > > From: Jessica Dail > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? > > My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this > feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the > buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it > another try. > If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly > appreciate it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver wrote: >> >> Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However,when trying to enter a password >> for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other >> protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille >> keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the >> service I am using. >> >> I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before >> clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. >> >> I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to >> say about it. >> >> thanks. >> >> Dan Beaver >> >> From: Alex Hall >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >> >> I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, >> and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You >> need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've >> found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for >> the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) >> to submit and you're done. >>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau wrote: >>> >>> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The >>> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters >>> allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Jessica Dail >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >>> >>> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me >>> to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not >>> let you lock the position of the buttons. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not >>>> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for >>>> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the >>>> fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, >>>> but this text is not part of a web page or app. >>>> >>>> HtH, >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing >>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >>>> >>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dan, I have had the same experience. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it >>>>>> doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems as though it just isn't entering any
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Hi,
Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. I
did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now.
Dan Beaver
From: Jessica Dail
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this
feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the
buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another
try.
If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly
appreciate it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for
my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected
field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and
press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using.
I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before
clicking the OK or submit or whatever button.
I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to
say about it.
thanks.
Dan Beaver
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode,
and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You
need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've
found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for
the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to
submit and you're done.
On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The
ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters
allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Dail
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me
to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let
you lock the position of the buttons.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not
enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error
with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when
typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is
not part of a web page or app.
HtH,
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone
wrote:
Dan, I have had the same experience.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Hi,
I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it
doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields.
It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field
at all.
Is there a way to make it work?
thanks.
Dan Beaver
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Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver wrote: > > Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for > my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected > field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard > and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am > using. > > I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before > clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. > > I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to > say about it. > > thanks. > > Dan Beaver > > From: Alex Hall > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? > > I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, > and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You > need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've > found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for > the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) > to submit and you're done. >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau wrote: >> >> I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The >> ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters >> allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >> Jessica Dail >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? >> >> I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me >> to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not >> let you lock the position of the buttons. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not >>> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for >>> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the >>> fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to >>> unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing >>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >>> >>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dan, I have had the same experience. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't >>>>> seem to work in password or protected fields. >>>>> >>>>> It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at >>>>> all. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to make it work? >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Dan Beaver >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >>>>> for this list can be searched at >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to t
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members t
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. > On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau wrote: > > I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability > to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you > to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? > > I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me > to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not > let you lock the position of the buttons. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran <mailto:batsfly...@me.com>> wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not >> enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for >> error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the >> fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, >> but this text is not part of a web page or app. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing >> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >> >> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone >> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >> >>> Dan, I have had the same experience. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver >> <mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't >>>> seem to work in password or protected fields. >>>> >>>> It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to make it work? >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> Dan Beaver >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >>>> for this list can be searched at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/>. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.c
RE: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not > enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error > with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers > when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this > text is not part of a web page or app. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with > the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > >> On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone >> wrote: >> >> Dan, I have had the same experience. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't >>> seem to work in password or protected fields. >>> >>> It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at >>> all. >>> >>> Is there a way to make it work? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> Dan Beaver >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Dan, I have had the same experience. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't >> seem to work in password or protected fields. >> >> It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. >> >> Is there a way to make it work? >> >> thanks. >> >> Dan Beaver >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't > seem to work in password or protected fields. > > It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. > > Is there a way to make it work? > > thanks. > > Dan Beaver > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
