Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Hi, Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. Dan Beaver From: Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. Dan Beaver From: Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However,when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members tothe this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me. Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more efficient. On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. Dan Beaver From: Jessica Dail mailto:jldai...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com mailto:dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just
Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields?
How do I get into explore mode? Is there a way to lock the keys? Even if I don't move my phone at all, it will switch modes on me. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me. Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more efficient. On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. Dan Beaver From: Jessica Dail Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information
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Just touch the screen, and don't lift your finger. You'll hear two tones, then VoiceOver will tell you you are in Explore Mode. As to the phone moving, if you have it right between the two modes, as in around a 45-degree angle, then even a small movement will cause it to switch. If you have it more definitely one way or the other, it should be fine. Remember that this is relative to the ground, so if you have it flat on your leg, but your leg is already at an angle to the floor, then the phone will see that as being at the same angle. On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote: How do I get into explore mode? Is there a way to lock the keys? Even if I don't move my phone at all, it will switch modes on me. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Dan, there is a bug that renders braille input useless for typing in edit fields in Safari, which might be part of the problem. However, entering an App Store password, or text in non-webpage areas, works perfectly for me. Jessica, having it switch modes is by design. Once you spend a bit of time in Explore Mode and get to know the different layout, you might find it just as easy to use. It's worth trying, as the alternative is not using braille input natively at all. I still like MBraille, but I have to say that I never use it now because using braille directly in any edit field is so much more efficient. On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com mailto:jldai...@gmail.com wrote: The only way I can see to use in successfully is in portrait mode with the dots going sideways on the top and bottom of the screen. When I set the phone in my lap, to make it flat, it switches modes. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Have you turned on the reduced motion setting under accessibility settings. I did and found that my Iphone 5 is much easier to use now. Dan Beaver From: Jessica Dail mailto:jldai...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? My device will not stay still long enough for me to even try to use this feature. It would be extremely helpful if I could lock the position of the buttons. Once I am able to do this, I may be able to give them using it another try. If there are any ideas on how to get around this until then, I would greatly appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am using 6 dot braille. However, when trying to enter a password for my bank via Safari or my password in the app store and any other protected field it speaks nothing as I am typing and when I exit the braille keyboard and press the appropriate button I get a password error from the service I am using. I have also checked the field and there appears to be nothing in it before clicking the OK or submit or whatever button. I think I am going to report this to accessibility and see what they have to say about it. thanks. Dan Beaver From: Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protectedfields? I use braille input all the time to enter my iTunes password, my passcode, and passwords when logging into services inside apps (such as Dropbox). You need to switch it to six dot braille (3-finger swipe right), at least I've found that works best for me. Plus, at least when entering your password for the app Store, you can just do a two-finger swipe right (the enter gesture) to submit and you're done. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com mailto:dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote: I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure
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I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I can use braille screen input to enter my password for my bank. The ability to reset the keyboard by hitting the underscore, then l characters allows you to position the keyboard where you want it to some degree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: braille keyboard in password/protected fields? I can't even use the feature. My device won't stay still long enough for me to even try to use it. It's even more difficult because the device will not let you lock the position of the buttons. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that for security reasons, the Braille keyboard is not enabled for protected password fields. There is still a lot of room for error with native Braille input because of the variable placement of the fingers when typing. Having said that, I can enter my passcode to unlock, but this text is not part of a web page or app. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Nov 3, 2014, at 3:09 PM, 'Candy Lowe' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
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Dan, I have had the same experience. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using the braille keyboard. Now I am finding that it doesn't seem to work in password or protected fields. It seems as though it just isn't entering any characters in the field at all. Is there a way to make it work? thanks. Dan Beaver -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
