Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Anouk Radix]

the opening for two new, more energy efficient larger windows.
> Then the electrician spent 2 days cleaning up all the cables which were
> dangling everywhere and to re-route them to where the new plugs and
> switches needed to be.
>
> I then did drywall with a young guy who has a renovation/building company
> with his father in law, he is a good customer at my store and does smallerr
> jobs for cash, works for him and it saves me a bunch as well. I then had
> another 2-person team who did all the mudding, sanding and eventually
> painting. I also had the new engineered hickory hardwood flooring installed
> by a professional, it once again needed to be glued and stapled but before
> that he used a cement patch to apply to the subflooring to even out all the
> rough spots left by tearing out the old flooring and there is simply no way
> a blind person could do this as some things just require not just
> functioning eyeballs but also the required skill to do the job. All in all
> it took 3 weeks to do everything, I did install one of the new interior
> doors but had the young guy who did the drywalling help me with the other
> two just because it’s easier and faster. He also installed all the new door
> and baseboard trim since I got some very nice solid knoddy Alder trim which
> was expensive and I didn’t want to mess it up. Once again, if you look at
> the 12-foot or so length of a piece of baseboard trim, a sighted person who
> knows what they are doing will see where the wall may not be perfectly even
> and they can scribe these spots with a pencil and then use a grinder to
> remove what often is not much more than a millimeter or two of material
> over a 40 or 50 cm length along that piece to make it fit perfectly.
>
> I love renovating and building and in particular anything to do with wood,
> but I kmnow my limitations as well and I wanted this job done in the 3
> extra weeks my wife stayed in the Philippines to visit her family so I
> didn’t have 6 months to try and do it myself, after all, I make my money
> running a retail business and not a building contracting business so any
> time I can spend on stuff like this is evenings and Sundays and maybe the
> odd day I take off from work at my store.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Monday, October 9, 2023 4:05 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi Sieghard thanks for that detailed installation.
>
> I would be interested to know how you find the sound of your
> tvsetup(arc+2xera300+sub) for just music listening with airplay 2?
>
> As I said I now have 2 era300 speakers (my first sonos speakers, love the
> sonos app on ios and on pc! would be nice though if it supported google
> cast as well as a fer more bluetooth codecs though). But am thinking of
> also getting the arc and sub.  Which is probbably totally overkill in my
> situation.
>
> but still: is it any good for just music listening through airplay?
>
> Thanks in advance for any information and I admire your sills to be able
> to renovate your own home.
>
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>
>
> Op ma 9 okt 2023 om 01:26 schreef Sieghard Weitzel :
>
> Hello Anouk,
>
>
>
> No problem, always happy to discuss Sonos. I have actually downsized my
> Sonos system considerably. I used to have 3 stereo pairs of Sonos One
> speakers, a set of Sonos One SL which were my rear speakers in a setup with
> at first a Sonos Playbar and Gen 1 Sub and later with an Arc and Gen 3 Sub.
>
> We also had a stereo pair of Play 5 in the bedroom, note these were the
> older, second generation Play 5 speakers which were replaced by the Sonos
> Five.
>
> The Sonos One speakers I had set up as a stereo pair in the kitchen,
> another stereo pair in my woodworking shop and the third was and actually
> still is a stereo pair in our bathroom.
>
> The first change was that we did a pretty major renovation to the upstairs
> of our house which consisted of a living room, kitchen, a short hallway, a
> guest bedroom, another smaller bedroom which I used as office and the
> slightly larger but still not very large master bedroom, and of course also
> a bathroom.
>
> I started out by ripping out all interior walls from the living room and
> hallway to the guest bedroom as well as from the guest bedroom to the
> office and from the office to the master bedroom.
>
> This left us with one large, slightly L-shaped area for the entire half of
> the upstairs which was not stairs, kitchen and bathroom, a little more than
> 700 square feet as the entire house has a footprint of just under 1100
> square feet.
>
> We then partitioned off a new, larger master bedroom a

RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

 and baseboard trim since I got some very nice 
solid knoddy Alder trim which was expensive and I didn’t want to mess it up. 
Once again, if you look at the 12-foot or so length of a piece of baseboard 
trim, a sighted person who knows what they are doing will see where the wall 
may not be perfectly even and they can scribe these spots with a pencil and 
then use a grinder to remove what often is not much more than a millimeter or 
two of material over a 40 or 50 cm length along that piece to make it fit 
perfectly.
I love renovating and building and in particular anything to do with wood, but 
I kmnow my limitations as well and I wanted this job done in the 3 extra weeks 
my wife stayed in the Philippines to visit her family so I didn’t have 6 months 
to try and do it myself, after all, I make my money running a retail business 
and not a building contracting business so any time I can spend on stuff like 
this is evenings and Sundays and maybe the odd day I take off from work at my 
store.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi Sieghard thanks for that detailed installation.
I would be interested to know how you find the sound of your 
tvsetup(arc+2xera300+sub) for just music listening with airplay 2?
As I said I now have 2 era300 speakers (my first sonos speakers, love the sonos 
app on ios and on pc! would be nice though if it supported google cast as well 
as a fer more bluetooth codecs though). But am thinking of also getting the arc 
and sub.  Which is probbably totally overkill in my situation.
but still: is it any good for just music listening through airplay?
Thanks in advance for any information and I admire your sills to be able to 
renovate your own home.
Greetings, Anouk,

Op ma 9 okt 2023 om 01:26 schreef Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>:
Hello Anouk,

No problem, always happy to discuss Sonos. I have actually downsized my Sonos 
system considerably. I used to have 3 stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers, a set 
of Sonos One SL which were my rear speakers in a setup with at first a Sonos 
Playbar and Gen 1 Sub and later with an Arc and Gen 3 Sub.
We also had a stereo pair of Play 5 in the bedroom, note these were the older, 
second generation Play 5 speakers which were replaced by the Sonos Five.
The Sonos One speakers I had set up as a stereo pair in the kitchen, another 
stereo pair in my woodworking shop and the third was and actually still is a 
stereo pair in our bathroom.
The first change was that we did a pretty major renovation to the upstairs of 
our house which consisted of a living room, kitchen, a short hallway, a guest 
bedroom, another smaller bedroom which I used as office and the slightly larger 
but still not very large master bedroom, and of course also a bathroom.
I started out by ripping out all interior walls from the living room and 
hallway to the guest bedroom as well as from the guest bedroom to the office 
and from the office to the master bedroom.
This left us with one large, slightly L-shaped area for the entire half of the 
upstairs which was not stairs, kitchen and bathroom, a little more than 700 
square feet as the entire house has a footprint of just under 1100 square feet.
We then partitioned off a new, larger master bedroom across the entire width of 
the house towards the backyard, still only about 11 feet wide, but 25 feet 
across. One one end I divided off about 4 feet which is now a walk-in clothet.
The new living room where we now use the part towards the front of the house as 
a dining area, is now about 14 feet wide by 30 feet long and on the other end 
towards the bedroom wall we set up our couches and a new 8-foot long 
custom-built entertainment unit. This has our 55-inch LG OLED TV mounted on a 
wall-mount in the centre with the middle of the screen at about head height 
when  you sit on the couch as it should be. This means it’s mounted a few 
inches higher than the Sonos Arc sound bar which sits in front of the Tv. 
Wall-mounted to each side of the main couch where we usually sit to watch TV is 
a set of Era 300’s as rear speakers and just to the right when you face the TV 
and at the end of the entertainment unit is the Sonos Sub sitting against the 
wall.
As I built an entirely new wall between the bedroom and living room, I planned 
for a set of in-wall speakers which are connected to a Sonos Amp for the 
bedroom. The are pretty much perfectly situated across from the bed and with th 
ebed right in between the speakers and of course before the drywall was 
installed I installed the speaker wire to the walk-in clothet where the Sonos 
Amp sits on a high shelf with an outlet right beside it.
In the bathroom we still have a wall-mounted stereo pair of Sonos One speakers.
As I don’t do as much woodworking any more as I used to do , I didn’t feel the 
need to have a stereo pair of Sonos One sp

Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Anouk Radix]

 a single Sonos Roam which currently sits on it’s magnetic
> charging base in the bedroom, but it’s probably the one Sonos product I use
> the least so I’ll probably sell it as well.
>
> This means we are down to the following 4 zones/rooms:
>
> Living room: Sonos Arc, set of Era 300 and Sonos Sub with the Arc being
> connected to the EARC HDMI port of our LG 55-Inch C2 OLED TV
>
> Bedroom: Sonos Amp connected to a somewhat higher-end set of Paradigm E80
> in-wall speakers and in time I will probably add a Sub Mini to that room
>
> Bathroom: stereo pair of Sonos Ones
>
> Kitchen as well as my shop and outside: a stereo pair of Sonos Move 2
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 8, 2023 7:03 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi, thanks fo ryour replies! Yes I have two era300s now but am planning to
> expand my system to the setup that you mentioned in your first message
> (2xera300+sub+arc). After some more thinking I think that this indeed might
> not work as I want it too because of the fact that you would stream
> video+audio from the apple tv (hope jaws reads this better now) to the arc
> even if I use an earc cable.
>
> Thanks for mentioning the extractor have been thinking about this as well.
> But of course this would get really expensive pretty fast.
>
> Just out of curiosity what sonos setup are you running at this time? I
> remember talking to you on this list about sonos a few years ago and you
> mentioning htat you wanted to run two play fives.
>
> Thanks again for the help and sorry for not being clear the first time
> around. Sometimes things are clear in my head but when i have to write it
> down...
>
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>
>
> Op zo 8 okt 2023 om 08:55 schreef Sieghard Weitzel :
>
> And I just re-read your message and realized you asked specifically about
> using an Apple TV connected directly to Sonos.
>
> Sorry for missing it the first time, you spelled “appletv” as one single
> word and hearing it with Jaws it didn’t sound much like “Apple TV”.
>
> Anyways, to my knowledge the Apple TV’s HDMI output has to be connected to
> a TV; I tried connecting it once to my Sonos Arc and I got nothing.
>
> Maybe there are settings you can change to make this work, I just never
> bothered a lot because my wife is sighted so we have a fairly new LG OLED
> smart TV and I never watch/listen to a movie by myself; we do enjoy some
> movies together, but if I am by myself I’ll prefer a good audio book any
> day.
>
> You may want to call Sonos support and ask if there is a work-around,
> potentially you could get it to work using one of these “Hdfury Arcana”
> adapters, they aren’t cheap, but here is the description from their website
> followed by the link:
>
>
>
> WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over
> TrueHD from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system
>
> Perfect solution for SONOS Arc and ANY eARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.
>
>
>
> In other words, if you have a Sonos Arc which I can’t quite figure out
> from your message, this adapter would probably allow you to connect your
> Apple TV which would be considered the “external HDMI source” directly to
> your Sonos Arc, but once again, I don’t have one of these gadgets so I
> can’t guaranty it will work. Here is the link to their website:
>
>
>
> Hdfury Arcana <https://www.hdfury.eu/shop/hdfury-arcana/>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from
> sonos and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use
> with an appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont
> need a tv. Is it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi
> to the sonos arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my
> iphone for installing it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any info
>
> Greetings, Anoukk,
>
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RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Anouk,

No problem, always happy to discuss Sonos. I have actually downsized my Sonos 
system considerably. I used to have 3 stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers, a set 
of Sonos One SL which were my rear speakers in a setup with at first a Sonos 
Playbar and Gen 1 Sub and later with an Arc and Gen 3 Sub.
We also had a stereo pair of Play 5 in the bedroom, note these were the older, 
second generation Play 5 speakers which were replaced by the Sonos Five.
The Sonos One speakers I had set up as a stereo pair in the kitchen, another 
stereo pair in my woodworking shop and the third was and actually still is a 
stereo pair in our bathroom.
The first change was that we did a pretty major renovation to the upstairs of 
our house which consisted of a living room, kitchen, a short hallway, a guest 
bedroom, another smaller bedroom which I used as office and the slightly larger 
but still not very large master bedroom, and of course also a bathroom.
I started out by ripping out all interior walls from the living room and 
hallway to the guest bedroom as well as from the guest bedroom to the office 
and from the office to the master bedroom.
This left us with one large, slightly L-shaped area for the entire half of the 
upstairs which was not stairs, kitchen and bathroom, a little more than 700 
square feet as the entire house has a footprint of just under 1100 square feet.
We then partitioned off a new, larger master bedroom across the entire width of 
the house towards the backyard, still only about 11 feet wide, but 25 feet 
across. One one end I divided off about 4 feet which is now a walk-in clothet.
The new living room where we now use the part towards the front of the house as 
a dining area, is now about 14 feet wide by 30 feet long and on the other end 
towards the bedroom wall we set up our couches and a new 8-foot long 
custom-built entertainment unit. This has our 55-inch LG OLED TV mounted on a 
wall-mount in the centre with the middle of the screen at about head height 
when  you sit on the couch as it should be. This means it’s mounted a few 
inches higher than the Sonos Arc sound bar which sits in front of the Tv. 
Wall-mounted to each side of the main couch where we usually sit to watch TV is 
a set of Era 300’s as rear speakers and just to the right when you face the TV 
and at the end of the entertainment unit is the Sonos Sub sitting against the 
wall.
As I built an entirely new wall between the bedroom and living room, I planned 
for a set of in-wall speakers which are connected to a Sonos Amp for the 
bedroom. The are pretty much perfectly situated across from the bed and with th 
ebed right in between the speakers and of course before the drywall was 
installed I installed the speaker wire to the walk-in clothet where the Sonos 
Amp sits on a high shelf with an outlet right beside it.
In the bathroom we still have a wall-mounted stereo pair of Sonos One speakers.
As I don’t do as much woodworking any more as I used to do , I didn’t feel the 
need to have a stereo pair of Sonos One speakers in my shop, we didn’t need the 
stereo pair of Play 5 speakers any more which were in our bedroom, the Sonos 
One SL stereo pair we had as rear speakers got replaced with the Era 300’s and 
in the kitchen I felt we didn’t need a permanent stereo pair of Sonos Ones, 
either. So I ended up selling the two pairs of Sonos One and the pair of Sonos 
One SL as well as my stereo pair of Play 5.
I always had a Sonos Move and added a second one setting them up as a stereo 
pair in the kitchen and as they are battery operated speakers, this would of 
course allow me to also bring them to my workshop or outside if I wanted.
I recently bought a new set of the Sonos Move 2 and I’ll probably sell my set 
of the original Moves, one is from when they first came out and the other I 
only bought last February or March so it’s only just over half a year old.
I also have a single Sonos Roam which currently sits on it’s magnetic charging 
base in the bedroom, but it’s probably the one Sonos product I use the least so 
I’ll probably sell it as well.
This means we are down to the following 4 zones/rooms:
Living room: Sonos Arc, set of Era 300 and Sonos Sub with the Arc being 
connected to the EARC HDMI port of our LG 55-Inch C2 OLED TV
Bedroom: Sonos Amp connected to a somewhat higher-end set of Paradigm E80 
in-wall speakers and in time I will probably add a Sub Mini to that room
Bathroom: stereo pair of Sonos Ones
Kitchen as well as my shop and outside: a stereo pair of Sonos Move 2

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi, thanks fo ryour replies! Yes I have two era300s now but am planning to 
expand my system to the setup that you mentioned in your first message 
(2xera300+sub+arc). After some more thinking I think that this indeed might not 
work as I want it too

Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, thanks fo ryour replies! Yes I have two era300s now but am planning to
expand my system to the setup that you mentioned in your first message
(2xera300+sub+arc). After some more thinking I think that this indeed might
not work as I want it too because of the fact that you would stream
video+audio from the apple tv (hope jaws reads this better now) to the arc
even if I use an earc cable.
Thanks for mentioning the extractor have been thinking about this as well.
But of course this would get really expensive pretty fast.
Just out of curiosity what sonos setup are you running at this time? I
remember talking to you on this list about sonos a few years ago and you
mentioning htat you wanted to run two play fives.
Thanks again for the help and sorry for not being clear the first time
around. Sometimes things are clear in my head but when i have to write it
down...
Greetings, Anouk,

Op zo 8 okt 2023 om 08:55 schreef Sieghard Weitzel :

> And I just re-read your message and realized you asked specifically about
> using an Apple TV connected directly to Sonos.
>
> Sorry for missing it the first time, you spelled “appletv” as one single
> word and hearing it with Jaws it didn’t sound much like “Apple TV”.
>
> Anyways, to my knowledge the Apple TV’s HDMI output has to be connected to
> a TV; I tried connecting it once to my Sonos Arc and I got nothing.
>
> Maybe there are settings you can change to make this work, I just never
> bothered a lot because my wife is sighted so we have a fairly new LG OLED
> smart TV and I never watch/listen to a movie by myself; we do enjoy some
> movies together, but if I am by myself I’ll prefer a good audio book any
> day.
>
> You may want to call Sonos support and ask if there is a work-around,
> potentially you could get it to work using one of these “Hdfury Arcana”
> adapters, they aren’t cheap, but here is the description from their website
> followed by the link:
>
>
>
> WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over
> TrueHD from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system
>
> Perfect solution for SONOS Arc and ANY eARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.
>
>
>
> In other words, if you have a Sonos Arc which I can’t quite figure out
> from your message, this adapter would probably allow you to connect your
> Apple TV which would be considered the “external HDMI source” directly to
> your Sonos Arc, but once again, I don’t have one of these gadgets so I
> can’t guaranty it will work. Here is the link to their website:
>
>
>
> Hdfury Arcana 
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from
> sonos and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use
> with an appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont
> need a tv. Is it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi
> to the sonos arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my
> iphone for installing it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any info
>
> Greetings, Anoukk,
>
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RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I just re-read your message and realized you asked specifically about using 
an Apple TV connected directly to Sonos.
Sorry for missing it the first time, you spelled “appletv” as one single word 
and hearing it with Jaws it didn’t sound much like “Apple TV”.
Anyways, to my knowledge the Apple TV’s HDMI output has to be connected to a 
TV; I tried connecting it once to my Sonos Arc and I got nothing.
Maybe there are settings you can change to make this work, I just never 
bothered a lot because my wife is sighted so we have a fairly new LG OLED smart 
TV and I never watch/listen to a movie by myself; we do enjoy some movies 
together, but if I am by myself I’ll prefer a good audio book any day.
You may want to call Sonos support and ask if there is a work-around, 
potentially you could get it to work using one of these “Hdfury Arcana” 
adapters, they aren’t cheap, but here is the description from their website 
followed by the link:

WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over TrueHD 
from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system
Perfect solution for SONOS Arc and ANY eARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.

In other words, if you have a Sonos Arc which I can’t quite figure out from 
your message, this adapter would probably allow you to connect your Apple TV 
which would be considered the “external HDMI source” directly to your Sonos 
Arc, but once again, I don’t have one of these gadgets so I can’t guaranty it 
will work. Here is the link to their website:

Hdfury Arcana

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from sonos 
and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use with an 
appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont need a tv. Is 
it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi to the sonos 
arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my iphone for installing 
it?
Thanks in advance for any info
Greetings, Anoukk,
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RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

First of all, two Era 300 speakers will not generate a “surround” system. You 
will get stereo sound with some spacial music features, but for a true surround 
system you need at least a Sonos Arc (or Beam 2) soundbar and a set of rear 
speakers and for that the Era 300 will give you the best possible sound if you 
are able to stream Dolby Atmos content. Ideally you would have at least one 
Sonos Sub as part of that system as well, the setup can support up to two Sonos 
Subs.
Now, as for streaming Netflix and Disney Plus there is only one option as far 
as I know if you don’t own either a smart TV or an Apple TV connected to a TV 
which in turn is again connected to a Dolby Atmos capable Sonos sound bar via 
an EARC port (that stands for enhanced audio return channel),.. That option 
would be to play your movie on your iPhone or of course on an iPad and to then 
send it to your Era 300 speakers via Airplay. I guess considering that the Era 
300 does have a USB-C input which requires a special adapter from Sonos, you 
could potentially connect your iPhone or an iPad to them with a cable although 
I am not sure what if any advantages that would give you.
The Sonos app itself give you access to the largest collection of free and paid 
music services I have seen in such platforms, but there is no native way to 
stream Netflix or Disney Plus or even YouTube, anything which involves video 
has to come from a TV and a connected Sonos sound bar.
Having said all this listening to a movie which you sent to your set of Era 300 
speakers via Airplay would still sound very nice, but you would not get a true 
surround sound let alone Dolby Atmos experience.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from sonos 
and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use with an 
appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont need a tv. Is 
it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi to the sonos 
arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my iphone for installing 
it?
Thanks in advance for any info
Greetings, Anoukk,
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