Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-20 Thread Andy Baracco
I use the Mophie Juice Pack. I would say that if you are a regular user of 
GPS apps, some kind of supplementary power source is pretty much mandatory.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Stephanie

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?

I have blind square and navigon. What about using one of those batery cases 
with the phone?

Steph

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:39 am
Subject: RE: trekker vs. apps?




Allen,

The Seeing Eye GPS app announces intersection  just like the Maestro or 
Breeze do. I used to own a Maestro and later had MobileGeo which basically 
is the same but was designed for the old Windows Mobile platform and one 
thing I found even then when the information was updated was that a lot of 
POI's that the Trekker announced were not actually correct or even there 
any more. It seemed it was using outdated information even back then and 
given how fast businesses change these days I would guess that in most 
cases the POI information nowadays is pretty useless. I think here 
accessing online maps which get updated much more often is the way to go.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Paganelli

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?

It will depend on your needs.  If you are going to be out and about all 
day long and require a GPS system, then you would be better off with a 
Trekker and save your battery power for your iPhone.  The GPS in the 
iPhone will really suck up the battery.  On the other hand, if you just 
want a GPS app for just in case, then an iPhone GPS app will probably due. 
The Trekker however uses maps with more points of interest then some of 
the GPS apps and offers announcement of each street your passing by such 
as Jones street on your left or 3 way crossing.  Jones street on your 
left, Smith road in front and Jones street on your right.  This tells you 
that Jones street runs left and right and it assumes you know the street 
your already on.  Far more detailed then many iPhone apps.  So again, it 
will depend on your needs which way will be the best.



Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
- Original Message - 
From: David Gross

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:45 PM
Subject: trekker vs. apps?

I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still 
makes a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of 
smart phone apps Trekker was extinct.


It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps 
compare to the current Trekker?

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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-20 Thread Stephanie
I have blind square and navigon. What about using one of those batery cases 
with the phone?
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:39 am
Subject: RE: trekker vs. apps?

>
>
> Allen,
>  
> The Seeing Eye GPS app announces intersection  just like the Maestro or 
> Breeze do. I used to own a Maestro and later had MobileGeo which basically is 
> the same but was designed for the old Windows Mobile platform and one thing I 
> found even then when the information was updated was that a lot of POI's that 
> the Trekker announced were not actually correct or even there any more. It 
> seemed it was using outdated information even back then and given how fast 
> businesses change these days I would guess that in most cases the POI 
> information nowadays is pretty useless. I think here accessing online maps 
> which get updated much more often is the way to go.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?
>  
> It will depend on your needs.  If you are going to be out and about all day 
> long and require a GPS system, then you would be better off with a Trekker 
> and save your battery power for your iPhone.  The GPS in the iPhone will 
> really suck up the battery.  On the other hand, if you just want a GPS app 
> for just in case, then an iPhone GPS app will probably due.  The Trekker 
> however uses maps with more points of interest then some of the GPS apps and 
> offers announcement of each street your passing by such as Jones street on 
> your left or 3 way crossing.  Jones street on your left, Smith road in front 
> and Jones street on your right.  This tells you that Jones street runs left 
> and right and it assumes you know the street your already on.  Far more 
> detailed then many iPhone apps.  So again, it will depend on your needs which 
> way will be the best.
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alan
>  
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>  
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>  
> Please click on: 
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> - Original Message - 
> From: David Gross 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:45 PM
> Subject: trekker vs. apps?
>  
> I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes 
> a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart 
> phone apps Trekker was extinct.
>  
> It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare 
> to the current Trekker?
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
The streets themselves don't change much, but business locations, or whether 
they still exist, do change.  So, if I'm looking for a point of interest 
such as a seafood restaurant, and there are several, and I choose to go to 
one, it's really not good to get there and find a shoe store instead, or to 
find that the restaurant no longer exists.  It closed down 5 years ago. 
Also, routes from one city to another, or from one state to another that are 
plotted may no longer be feasible due to road construction or demolition 
within the last few years.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


So how often do you think the streets change?


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


For the most part, I would prefer a good and reliable app over having to
carry a second device which is usually extremely expensive.  While I do
have, and really like, the GPS utility for the Pac Mate that is sold by

www.freedomscientific.com

called "street talk", the major drawbacks are the cost and the fact that
maps, although available from the Sendero Group, cannot be updated for the
Street Talk utility due to the Pac Mate firmware restrictions.  The maps
have not been updated since 2008.  To me, this is not acceptable,
considering the approximate $1,600 cost.  I feel very short changed.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about
that before making a purchase.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard 
PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the 
iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The 
one thing that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk 
a Route.  This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the 
town. I sat in my house and just basically .walk around town learning 
where everything was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
honestly evaluate which is better.


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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Allen,

 

The Seeing Eye GPS app announces intersection  just like the Maestro or
Breeze do. I used to own a Maestro and later had MobileGeo which basically
is the same but was designed for the old Windows Mobile platform and one
thing I found even then when the information was updated was that a lot of
POI's that the Trekker announced were not actually correct or even there any
more. It seemed it was using outdated information even back then and given
how fast businesses change these days I would guess that in most cases the
POI information nowadays is pretty useless. I think here accessing online
maps which get updated much more often is the way to go.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?

 

It will depend on your needs.  If you are going to be out and about all day
long and require a GPS system, then you would be better off with a Trekker
and save your battery power for your iPhone.  The GPS in the iPhone will
really suck up the battery.  On the other hand, if you just want a GPS app
for just in case, then an iPhone GPS app will probably due.  The Trekker
however uses maps with more points of interest then some of the GPS apps and
offers announcement of each street your passing by such as Jones street on
your left or 3 way crossing.  Jones street on your left, Smith road in front
and Jones street on your right.  This tells you that Jones street runs left
and right and it assumes you know the street your already on.  Far more
detailed then many iPhone apps.  So again, it will depend on your needs
which way will be the best.

 

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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From: David Gross <mailto:david.dgro...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:45 PM

Subject: trekker vs. apps?

 

I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart
phone apps Trekker was extinct.

 

It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare
to the current Trekker?

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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
I guess I'm lucky in that I still have my Maestro Trekker and my Trekker 
breeze.  Although Humanware no longer supports the Maestro Trekker and 
hasn't for some time, the streets haven't changed in Las Vegas or at least 
where I live.  I last used the Trekker/Maestro 6 or so months back to get to 
my doctor's appointment.  He's around 20 miles from me.  I was looking for 
his address in Maestro and found a previous route I had created.  My sighted 
wife followed the instructions I was giving her from Maestro.  One thing it 
can do is previous and next instruction so when she says what is the next 
instruction I can easily give her that information as well as to review the 
route with out even leaving the house.



Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Gail the U. S. Male" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Dean" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone,
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything
was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly
evaluate which is better.

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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli

So how often do you think the streets change?


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


For the most part, I would prefer a good and reliable app over having to
carry a second device which is usually extremely expensive.  While I do
have, and really like, the GPS utility for the Pac Mate that is sold by

www.freedomscientific.com

called "street talk", the major drawbacks are the cost and the fact that
maps, although available from the Sendero Group, cannot be updated for the
Street Talk utility due to the Pac Mate firmware restrictions.  The maps
have not been updated since 2008.  To me, this is not acceptable,
considering the approximate $1,600 cost.  I feel very short changed.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about
that before making a purchase.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard 
PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the 
iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The 
one thing that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk 
a Route.  This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the 
town. I sat in my house and just basically .walk around town learning 
where everything was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
honestly evaluate which is better.


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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
The other huge advantage was, you could choose which GPS receiver you wanted 
and weren't stuck with what they gave you.



Regards,

Alan

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From: "Chuck Dean" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA 
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone, 
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing 
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route. 
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat 
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything 
was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly 
evaluate which is better.


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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-17 Thread Alan Paganelli
It will depend on your needs.  If you are going to be out and about all day 
long and require a GPS system, then you would be better off with a Trekker and 
save your battery power for your iPhone.  The GPS in the iPhone will really 
suck up the battery.  On the other hand, if you just want a GPS app for just in 
case, then an iPhone GPS app will probably due.  The Trekker however uses maps 
with more points of interest then some of the GPS apps and offers announcement 
of each street your passing by such as Jones street on your left or 3 way 
crossing.  Jones street on your left, Smith road in front and Jones street on 
your right.  This tells you that Jones street runs left and right and it 
assumes you know the street your already on.  Far more detailed then many 
iPhone apps.  So again, it will depend on your needs which way will be the best.


Regards,

Alan

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  From: David Gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:45 PM
  Subject: trekker vs. apps?


  I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes 
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart phone 
apps Trekker was extinct.

   

  It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare 
to the current Trekker?


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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Charles Rivard
This is one benefit of the Seeing Eye app for the iDevices.  If maps were 
updated 2 minutes before you opened the app, you will be using the updates 
and the maps don't take up any of your storage space.  The down side, 
though, is that you need to be in an area where you have coverage..


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Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I have, and still use my Trekker Maestro. I think the idea of the external
GPS receiver makes it react faster and sharper. Because I live in a
developed area, the street layouts do not change. The POIs do however, and
that is the disadvantage.

Andy


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From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trekker vs. apps?

Hello David,

I like them both.

I use several GPS solutions on my iPhone but I also use the Trekker Breeze
and would never willingly consider giving it up.

To me, neither is better than the other--it's just a matter of preferences
and circumstance.

Mark

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Of David Gross
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: trekker vs. apps?

   I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart
phone apps Trekker was extinct.

It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare
to the current Trekker?
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Charles Rivard
I think that the map program for the PC that Sendero puts out is very good 
for planning a route before leaving home or seeing what's around you in the 
way of points of interest.


I always thought that the way you have to enter addresses into a Trekker 
Breeze is clunky.  I don't like the method of using the numbers on a 
telephone-like keypad to represent letters; 2 being A, B and C, 3 being D, 
E, F, and so on.  This is how data is entered into credit card terminals 
when programming them, which I did for 9 years for Discovercard, so I know 
how to do it, but I still find it cumbersome and bothersome.


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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: RE: trekker vs. apps?


If you mean you virtually walked around then Sendero is currently offering 
their PC Map product for $49 and it allows you to do the same thing.


I used to have a Trekker Maestro with the HP iPaq PDA (late 2007 and 2008) 
and always hated having to put on that big belt/strap thing with the PDA on 
one end, the GPS receiver and speaker etc. It was also very common that when 
I was walking around somewhere the thing would crash and I had to pull out 
the poky thing and press the reset button to reboot everything. Later I had 
a Windows 6.1 Smartphone with MobileSpeak and MobileGeo but nothing beats 
the stability of the iPhone and iOS.



Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Gail the U. S. Male

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:32 PM
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no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone,
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat
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was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly
evaluate which is better.

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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
There is an app like the Trekker, it's called Seeying Eye GPS.

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Mich Verrier
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?

no you can't a few years ago when i was looking in to getting a trekker i 
disided on the trekker Maestro and then shortley after bying my trekker they 
stopt supporting it. since that time i have used my trekker a bit but now that 
i got my phone i have not used any of the gps apps on my phone but i would most 
likly use my phone for any gps but i do wish that hw would bring out a app like 
the trekker. from Mich.
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of 
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
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From: "Chuck Dean" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone,
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything
was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly
evaluate which is better.

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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you mean you virtually walked around then Sendero is currently offering 
their PC Map product for $49 and it allows you to do the same thing.

I used to have a Trekker Maestro with the HP iPaq PDA (late 2007 and 2008) and 
always hated having to put on that big belt/strap thing with the PDA on one 
end, the GPS receiver and speaker etc. It was also very common that when I was 
walking around somewhere the thing would crash and I had to pull out the poky 
thing and press the reset button to reboot everything. Later I had a Windows 
6.1 Smartphone with MobileSpeak and MobileGeo but nothing beats the stability 
of the iPhone and iOS.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?

no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of 
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
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From: "Chuck Dean" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA 
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone, 
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing 
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route. 
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat 
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything 
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Andy Baracco
I have, and still use my Trekker Maestro. I think the idea of the external 
GPS receiver makes it react faster and sharper. Because I live in a 
developed area, the street layouts do not change. The POIs do however, and 
that is the disadvantage.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trekker vs. apps?

Hello David,

I like them both.

I use several GPS solutions on my iPhone but I also use the Trekker Breeze
and would never willingly consider giving it up.

To me, neither is better than the other--it's just a matter of preferences
and circumstance.

Mark

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Of David Gross
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: trekker vs. apps?

   I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart
phone apps Trekker was extinct.

It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare
to the current Trekker?
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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread M. Taylor
Hello David,  

I like them both.  

I use several GPS solutions on my iPhone but I also use the Trekker Breeze
and would never willingly consider giving it up.  

To me, neither is better than the other--it's just a matter of preferences
and circumstance.

Mark

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    I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart
phone apps Trekker was extinct.

It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare
to the current Trekker?
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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Tony
One minor advantage to delayed updates is that my street was previously on
Google but has disappeared recently.

Tony


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it's been a couple of years, since a map update, and longer than that, for
an update to the firmware.
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about
that before making a purchase.
Mary


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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>
> I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a 
> Hewlett-Packard PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work 
> very well on the iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior 
> to all of them. The one thing that I really liked about the trekker, 
> you could virtually walk a Route.  This was especially helpful when I 
> moved  and had to learn the town. I sat in my house and just basically 
> .walk around town learning where everything was at. It was awesome!
> I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
> honestly evaluate which is better.
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Mich Verrier
no you can't a few years ago when i was looking in to getting a trekker i 
disided on the trekker Maestro and then shortley after bying my trekker they 
stopt supporting it. since that time i have used my trekker a bit but now 
that i got my phone i have not used any of the gps apps on my phone but i 
would most likly use my phone for any gps but i do wish that hw would bring 
out a app like the trekker. from Mich.
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no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
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I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone,
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat
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was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
it's been a couple of years, since a map update, and longer than that, for 
an update to the firmware.
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From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the 
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product 
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been 
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about 
that before making a purchase.

Mary


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On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard 
PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the 
iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The 
one thing that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk 
a Route.  This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the 
town. I sat in my house and just basically .walk around town learning 
where everything was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
honestly evaluate which is better.


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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
no, you can't do the same thing with the Trekker Breeze.  I also had one of 
those Maestro Trekkers, until it died on me.
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Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA 
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone, 
I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing 
that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route. 
This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat 
in my house and just basically .walk around town learning where everything 
was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly 
evaluate which is better.


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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Charles Rivard
For the most part, I would prefer a good and reliable app over having to 
carry a second device which is usually extremely expensive.  While I do 
have, and really like, the GPS utility for the Pac Mate that is sold by


www.freedomscientific.com

called "street talk", the major drawbacks are the cost and the fact that 
maps, although available from the Sendero Group, cannot be updated for the 
Street Talk utility due to the Pac Mate firmware restrictions.  The maps 
have not been updated since 2008.  To me, this is not acceptable, 
considering the approximate $1,600 cost.  I feel very short changed.


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Subject: Re: trekker vs. apps?


Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the 
breeze updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product 
has been out for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been 
good and faithful at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about 
that before making a purchase.

Mary


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On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard 
PDA many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the 
iPhone, I still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The 
one thing that I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk 
a Route.  This was especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the 
town. I sat in my house and just basically .walk around town learning 
where everything was at. It was awesome!
I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't 
honestly evaluate which is better.


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RE: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Richard Turner
In my opinion, the combination of BlindSquare and Google Maps or Apple Maps
or Navigon wins hands down over the Trekker Breeze.

Your map data is updated far more often, the iPHone isn't as effected by
heavy cloud cover, which depending on where you live can have a huge impact.
Then there is the cost .

 

Again, just my opinion,

Richard

 

 

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I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes
a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart
phone apps Trekker was extinct.

 

It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare
to the current Trekker?

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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Mary Otten
Cost is one obvious advantage in favor of apps. Also, how often is the breeze 
updated? I don't know the answer to that question. But the product has been out 
for quite a while. And I have no idea if humanware has been good and faithful 
at keeping up the map data. I would be concerned about that before making a 
purchase.
Mary


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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA 
> many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone, I 
> still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing that 
> I really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.  This was 
> especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat in my house 
> and just basically .walk around town learning where everything was at. It was 
> awesome!
> I do not know if the trekker breeze has this capability, so I can't honestly 
> evaluate which is better.
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Chuck Dean
I had one of the old maestro/_Trekker combinations in a Hewlett-Packard PDA 
many years ago. Although many of the GPS apps work very well on the iPhone, I 
still think the Trekker was very superior to all of them. The one thing that I 
really liked about the trekker, you could virtually walk a Route.  This was 
especially helpful when I moved  and had to learn the town. I sat in my house 
and just basically .walk around town learning where everything was at. It was 
awesome!
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Re: trekker vs. apps?

2014-10-16 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I owned both trekkers and now use Blindsquare and think it ar superior to the 
trekkera.  The GPS receiver is much more accurate and holds on much longer.

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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 3:45 PM, "David Gross"  wrote:
> 
> I was surprised to find out today that Humanware still makes 
> a hand held version of the trekker breeze. I thought in this era of smart 
> phone apps Trekker was extinct.
>  
> It may be an unfair question, but how do any of the Iphone gps apps compare 
> to the current Trekker?
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