RE: Siri, Please try again later, my observations
Well, I know it is easy to be a bit jaded at this point, but since I was making a weather request, that logically has to access the servers. The onboard things like simply asking for the battery life is fixed in 5.2. I have not thoroughly tested the request that are clearly onboard the phone yet, but I suspect they are significantly improved, at least, I choose to believe that until I hear otherwise. But I have to say in the past, if the issue resolved itself, the Apple Accessibility would basically blow it off. Now, they are actually following up. Richard “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 3:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Siri, Please try again later, my observations A bit ironic since they have been aware of reduced functionality for a long time; there was even a mainstream news article I think last week on CBC News about this. Of course they would say that this is of the upmost importance to them and maybe for the accessibility team it is, but whether it is for the Siri team that is a different story and in large organisations like Apple, Microsoft, Google etc. there are many teams working on different aspects of a particular product or service and there is sometimes extreme competition happening. Anyways, I thought most of the Siri requests are supposed to be handled on the device now and not so much in the cloud and on servers any more. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 15, 2021 1:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a note to Apple accessibility. Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they are prioritizing accessibility. Hello Richard, We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did include many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it seems that some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. But any reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being immediately escalated and investigated. Richard “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin website: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro) On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would state my conclusion about this. That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad mood, whatever you want to call it. Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot talk to itself. I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while the phone was locked. Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone was locked. So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a little annoying when it doesn’t. But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes later it probably can. Richard “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin My web site; https://www.turner42.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1808033deeb4537e28b08d9c024140a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637752083463262407%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2BlKY9IN28%2Fh0VPeo%2BXKlCCfXxXo%2BUHL3RXZOWGDjhSU%3D&reserved=0> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40go
RE: Siri, Please try again later, my observations
A bit ironic since they have been aware of reduced functionality for a long time; there was even a mainstream news article I think last week on CBC News about this. Of course they would say that this is of the upmost importance to them and maybe for the accessibility team it is, but whether it is for the Siri team that is a different story and in large organisations like Apple, Microsoft, Google etc. there are many teams working on different aspects of a particular product or service and there is sometimes extreme competition happening. Anyways, I thought most of the Siri requests are supposed to be handled on the device now and not so much in the cloud and on servers any more. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: December 15, 2021 1:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a note to Apple accessibility. Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they are prioritizing accessibility. Hello Richard, We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did include many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it seems that some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. But any reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being immediately escalated and investigated. Richard “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin website: www.turner42.com (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro) On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would state my conclusion about this. That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad mood, whatever you want to call it. Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot talk to itself. I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while the phone was locked. Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone was locked. So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a little annoying when it doesn’t. But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes later it probably can. Richard “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB45138BDA21BC97C13C38EA7AB7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB45138BDA21BC97C13C38EA7AB7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR06MB7862A87FBF5FA98B3E1D12E5C7769%40SJ0PR06MB7862.namprd06.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations
Mini thanks Richard! Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a > note to Apple accessibility. > Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they > are prioritizing accessibility. > Hello Richard, > > We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did > include many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it > seems that some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. > But any reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being > immediately escalated and investigated. > > > Richard > > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little > consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin > website: www.turner42.com > > (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro) > >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >> >> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, >> Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought >> I would state my conclusion about this. >> >> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad >> mood, whatever you want to call it. >> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that >> still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using >> your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when >> it cannot talk to itself. >> >> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it >> while the phone was locked. >> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the >> phone was locked. >> >> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a >> little annoying when it doesn’t. >> >> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few >> minutes later it probably can. >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin >> >> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB45138BDA21BC97C13C38EA7AB7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FFF4C012-3992-46D4-90F3-9357B0BA5CBA%40gmail.com.
Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations
sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a note to Apple accessibility. Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they are prioritizing accessibility. Hello Richard, We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did include many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it seems that some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. But any reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being immediately escalated and investigated. Richard “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin website: www.turner42.com (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro) On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would state my conclusion about this. That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad mood, whatever you want to call it. Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot talk to itself. I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while the phone was locked. Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone was locked. So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a little annoying when it doesn’t. But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes later it probably can. Richard “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB45138BDA21BC97C13C38EA7AB7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations
Well, I’ll just say that Siri seems to have good days and bad days. The good does outweigh the bad so I will refrain from carrying on about it lol Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Esther Levegnale > wrote: > > ain't that the truth! Esther P. S. So far, I am not having trouble with > Siri. I better not see any more because he might jinx me! Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >> >> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, >> Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought >> I would state my conclusion about this. >> >> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad >> mood, whatever you want to call it. >> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that >> still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using >> your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when >> it cannot talk to itself. >> >> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it >> while the phone was locked. >> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the >> phone was locked. >> >> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a >> little annoying when it doesn’t. >> >> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few >> minutes later it probably can. >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin >> >> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513521788A9B4D1CC728BE1B7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0E52761D-00E5-4B03-8351-52D5D671FDB1%40sbcglobal.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/EA366F8A-F143-41BD-BCBF-686D6D8C3BB2%40gmail.com.
Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations
ain't that the truth! Esther P. S. So far, I am not having trouble with Siri. I better not see any more because he might jinx me! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, > I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would > state my conclusion about this. > > That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad > mood, whatever you want to call it. > Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, > for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone > and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot > talk to itself. > > I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it > while the phone was locked. > Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the > phone was locked. > > So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a > little annoying when it doesn’t. > > But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes > later it probably can. > > > > > Richard > “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin > > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513521788A9B4D1CC728BE1B7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0E52761D-00E5-4B03-8351-52D5D671FDB1%40sbcglobal.net.
Siri, Please try again later, my observations
Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought I would state my conclusion about this. That message appears because Siri's servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad mood, whatever you want to call it. Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when it cannot talk to itself. I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it while the phone was locked. Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the phone was locked. So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a little annoying when it doesn't. But, it ain't worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few minutes later it probably can. Richard "One can't be angry when one looks at a penguin." ~ John Ruskin My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513521788A9B4D1CC728BE1B7769%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
