Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
They felt like spam to me to, so deleted them all. All the flap cos someone gave us a clue what they were about, on list. That's the only one I found interesting. One message advertising the TT list would have been plenty. But like we also keep seeing, time to put this to bed for once and for all. Just delete everything else in this thread from here on. I'm getting good at it now. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Tess tess...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:26 PM Subject: RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I hope people aren't upset with me. For me, I made a mistake, I said I thought it was spam, so I was deleting them myself. I apologize to one and all if I came across myself as upset. I don't mind hitting delete keys. I do that with over 50+ emails aday that I get because I just don't need to read those emails that don't pertain to me. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Maggie Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! it's only blind square. Caitlyn On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote: I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it's the way they are set up! tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep to somplace other than the list. I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why I am going there. so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? why would I go anywhere to find out? From: Hope Paulos mailto:hope.pau...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I work for Fedora Outlier LLC, and these messages are legitimate. Hope Paulos On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll
Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Hello. I'd like to echo what Cara has so elegantly stated below. Also, I have given the members of Fedora Outlier permission to post on list regarding the apps in question. To be blunt, if it's something you don't like or agree with, either delete it, or write them privately. Again, if it's something which you feel has crossed the list policy line, please please write me and/or Cara privately, forward the message, ETC. We will deal with it, or tell you it's approved, or tell you it's not. In either case, it helps keep list traffic down. Thanks much., -- Raul A. Gallegos Perfect has 7 letters and so does Sheldon. Coincidence? I think not. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 1/27/2014 1:48 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the delay in this posting. OMG! I cannot believe the bandwidth generated from this completely innocent, well-meaning and helpful original topic. Before I get started here, let me just establish that not only should this thread be closed now but if you feel you really need to snipe back at me for this post, either do it off-list or you will not be allowed to post here again, no questions asked. I welcome your comments off the list (agree or disagree) but not on the list. So remember, when you click send, if you simply want to spout off against me, the list or its policies, make sure it is a private note to me or Raul. Okay, now that that is out of the way, for those who are comparing this to some kind of 'high-powered' sales pitch? Respectfully, you seem not to have experienced a true high-powered pitch. This thread was nothing of the sort and the incredible amount of unnecessary and negative traffic this has generated is simply over the top and not welcome here. I love this community but for God's sake, it never ceases to amaze me the kinds of things people will look for to complain about and the vehemence with which the complaints are put forth. I'm simply saying 'enough!' Move on and leave this. the original poster and blog were trying to offer something constructive and useful and instead of responses in that spirit, much of what has made up this thread is just negative noise. My personal apologies go out to everyone behind the blog where this article is hosted as well as to the people who have supported the poster's right to post here. This type of thing is perfectly legit on this list. If anyone has any questions or issues in future, where they find themselves concerned whether or not a message may or may not be spam; 1 Consider writing us, the list moderators. (myself and Raul) 2 Consider writing the poster themselves if you know that they are a legitimate list participant. Otherwise see number 1 above. 3 Ignore the message and move on. Simple as that. None of the above options includes taking it upon yourself to righteously call the poster(s) out and essentially publicly chastise them. I hope this makes this crystal clear so we do not run into this on-list again. If you have concerns with list policies, they should be taken up with me or Raul. Now, know that we both do have lives so do not expect your concerns to get answers or responses right away. -And, for the record, if you just want to yell through your keyboard or try to call me out, then guess what, while I absolutely will read what you have to say, don't expect a response. I will spend my time positively working with people here who want to carry on intelligent and constructive conversations, who have points they'd like to make which are honestly important to them and which impact their lives as they use this list on a day-to-day basis. Those are the folks I have time for. If you feel that I've not gotten back with you when I should have then please please please understand that I do get a lot of email and notes do get lost from time to time. So by all means write me more than once if need be. I simply want what is best for this list and every person on it. So please have patience and know that I will do my very best to make this experience a good one for you all. :) Thanks for reading and remember, please respond to this to me privately if you feel you would like to. :) Thanks and have a great night and wonderful week! Smiles, Cara :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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it’s only blind square. Caitlyn On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote: I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it’s the way they are set up! tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep to somplace other than the list. I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why I am going there. so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? why would I go anywhere to find out? From: Hope Paulos Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I work for Fedora Outlier LLC, and these messages are legitimate. Hope Paulos On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
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Yeah, and I didn't join this list to get advertised and promoted. I joined for a QA response where something in the way of knowledge could be imparted. - Original Message - From: Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it without making people plow through a bunch of advertising. Best Regards, Rick alfaro On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote: I find these hooks to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and offer any additional advertising) very annoying. As others have stated, if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind community. Holland's Boy, Bill - To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter. - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer Dramatist, 1935-2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Excellent post which reflects my feelings on this. I certainly don't intend to ridicule anyone's hard work and don't mind these messages being posted here but as you say, just a little more info would attract more people for the right reasons. Best Regards, Rick alfaro On 1/26/2014 6:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote: I don’t think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. However, this: Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url] says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste the link. This: Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url] makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I want to know what else you have to say about it. To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you clicked a link because someone basically said “click this link”? I never do, and I’m sure most people don’t, because I have absolutely no idea what the link goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the app, and the app’s name, provides that missing information and will, it seems to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I’m off base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I’m more than fine with you guys posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in. On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting
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I'm pretty much in your group as far as the messages go, but it would be nice to see a list of entries for the top ten rather than just a given day's. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found
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There are several companies I have learned about because of these types of posts. Why should we, as blind people, be left out of the advertising process? I have received enough information from the little bit of information the count down provided to decide if I wanted to read further or not. I think the advertising has given me additional information about the company and I appreciate it. Please keep sending these emails. On 1/27/14, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it without making people plow through a bunch of advertising. Best Regards, Rick alfaro On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote: I find these hooks to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and offer any additional advertising) very annoying. As others have stated, if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind community. Holland's Boy, Bill - To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter. - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer Dramatist, 1935-2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I've seen other items like this and they oftentimes mention that they have a top-ten with a link to the site for those who wish to check it out, however I've never seen one for each day of the month, or so it seems. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I'm sorry to say that I also find this practice very annoying. I get this in their email messages as well and I never follow the links and I'll probably be unsubscribing from that email list because of this. I understand the intent is to drive up the hit counters for the web site and that is their choice but I feel if one has info to offer, just do it without making people plow through a bunch of advertising. Best Regards, Rick alfaro On 1/26/2014 6:02 PM, Bill Gallik wrote: I find these hooks to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and offer any additional advertising) very annoying. As others have stated, if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind community. Holland's Boy, Bill - To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter. - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer Dramatist, 1935-2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I hope people aren't upset with me. For me, I made a mistake, I said I thought it was spam, so I was deleting them myself. I apologize to one and all if I came across myself as upset. I don't mind hitting delete keys. I do that with over 50+ emails aday that I get because I just don't need to read those emails that don't pertain to me. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Maggie Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! it's only blind square. Caitlyn On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote: I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it's the way they are set up! tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep to somplace other than the list. I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why I am going there. so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? why would I go anywhere to find out? From: Hope Paulos mailto:hope.pau...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I work for Fedora Outlier LLC, and these messages are legitimate. Hope Paulos On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives
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Tess, I think you asked a very good question. I won't open spam or anything I suspect of being spam and those things do get through at times. On 1/27/14, Tess tess...@gmail.com wrote: I hope people aren't upset with me. For me, I made a mistake, I said I thought it was spam, so I was deleting them myself. I apologize to one and all if I came across myself as upset. I don't mind hitting delete keys. I do that with over 50+ emails aday that I get because I just don't need to read those emails that don't pertain to me. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Maggie Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! it's only blind square. Caitlyn On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Dave Mitchel dbmitc...@comcast.net wrote: I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it's the way they are set up! tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep to somplace other than the list. I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why I am going there. so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? why would I go anywhere to find out? From: Hope Paulos mailto:hope.pau...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I work for Fedora Outlier LLC, and these messages are legitimate. Hope Paulos On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you
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-- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I’ve gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I’m not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I’ve gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I’m not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT T consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
I work for Fedora Outlier LLC, and these messages are legitimate. Hope Paulos On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
I, and most others realize they are legitimate, but it’s the way they are set up! tell us what this app is instead of thinking we all follow links like sheep to somplace other than the list. I too open the message, then delet when I find out I have once more go to a website to find ou twhat the subject claims to be inside a message. I, for one, will not go to the website without some sort of reason as to why I am going there. so, with this subject line, is this a walking companion like music? GPS app? why would I go anywhere to find out? From: Hope Paulos Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I work for Fedora Outlier LLC, and these messages are legitimate. Hope Paulos On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https
RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
I have to agree with Neal on this. Also, please put your message above email signatures and not below them. This makes your messages quicker to read. I'm not trying to do the Mod's job here, just asking for a common curtacy. DJ _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT T consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Then why can't they be a bit more up front about their promos? Putting their messages at the top of the email instead of the bottom, and simply telling us what they want us to know would be the polite thing to do. Don't you think? DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com
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Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
I did not notice that my signature was first in the email, followed by the message. My apologies for any inconvenience. Marcy On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:32 PM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote: Then why can't they be a bit more up front about their promos? Putting their messages at the top of the email instead of the bottom, and simply telling us what they want us to know would be the polite thing to do. Don't you think? DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing
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I find these hooks to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and offer any additional advertising) very annoying. As others have stated, if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind community. Holland's Boy, Bill - To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter. - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer Dramatist, 1935-2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I don’t think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. However, this: Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url] says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste the link. This: Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url] makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I want to know what else you have to say about it. To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you clicked a link because someone basically said “click this link”? I never do, and I’m sure most people don’t, because I have absolutely no idea what the link goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the app, and the app’s name, provides that missing information and will, it seems to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I’m off base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I’m more than fine with you guys posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in. On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
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I agree Bill and Neal. It wouldn't have bothered me if this website had limited their announcement to the first one, stating, Check our website over the 10 days for 10 great apps we like, and left it at that. I don't appreciate the daily repeat traffic. I think anyone who wanted would have noticed the first message, and taken the effort to go back daily. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! I find these hooks to the web site (I refuse to mention the name and offer any additional advertising) very annoying. As others have stated, if you want us to know about the apps then at least give the name of the app and a brief synopsis of the function it serves within the blind community. Holland's Boy, Bill - To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter. - Françoise Sagan, French Novelist, screen Writer Dramatist, 1935-2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
As I said, I don't have a problem with these messages. It's clear that this app they're talking about is a GPS app, so if you're interested, click to read more and if not hit the delete key. I don't think either action is particularly onerous. I frequently click on a message, such as in updates from LinkedIn, to find out what is being discussed. I also frequently hit the delete key instead of following a link or looking something up on Google since I'm just not interested enough. I typically don't waste list traffic by complaining about having to hit my delete key half a dozen times though. As I said below, these links don't take you to complex hard to navigate sites. They're straight forward, and I've been clicking on each link and taking the second or two to see which app they're writing about. I haven't tabulated the numbers, but we're talking about five messages so far and a total of no more than ten. I'm sure I've deleted more messages complaining about this than there will be messages in total. It's interesting to see how people choose to invest their time. On 01/26/2014 04:32 PM, DJ wrote: Then why can't they be a bit more up front about their promos? Putting their messages at the top of the email instead of the bottom, and simply telling us what they want us to know would be the polite thing to do. Don't you think? DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
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although I have enjoyed reading about the selections thus far, I thought this list was supposed to be an informative list, not a vehicle for advertising other people's products before being informative. It seems to me that you could ask for folks to subscribe to your news-letter so they can get this information. After all, this list does have more than 1,300 members so if everyone puts in their two cents worth on a topic that's alot of crap to go through. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I for one sure do appreciate the posts, and look forward to seeing the next day's post concerning the upcoming app. I find it a fun and intriguing activity, and am sad to see the negative e-mails. On 1/26/2014 3:53 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: I did not notice that my signature was first in the email, followed by the message. My apologies for any inconvenience. Marcy On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:32 PM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote: Then why can't they be a bit more up front about their promos? Putting their messages at the top of the email instead of the bottom, and simply telling us what they want us to know would be the polite thing to do. Don't you think? DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received
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I think these articles are informative and provide reviews of apps people might find useful. I haven't checked, but I don't think all of the apps cost money. I don't see these posts as being advertisements for any product or service. I think they're just pointers to interesting articles and a web site worth checking out, and in that way, they're no different than any other on topic posts to this list. I don't have a problem with these posts, and I don't see them as off topic. If anyone does, you might want to contact the list owner or moderator to get them to weigh in on this. On 01/26/2014 05:46 PM, Fred Olver wrote: although I have enjoyed reading about the selections thus far, I thought this list was supposed to be an informative list, not a vehicle for advertising other people's products before being informative. It seems to me that you could ask for folks to subscribe to your news-letter so they can get this information. After all, this list does have more than 1,300 members so if everyone puts in their two cents worth on a topic that's alot of crap to go through. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Thank you Alex for that input I really do appreciate it. You are very right. I do not click on links that say click here to read full post. I will try and do a better job with these in the future. Scott Rumery On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. However, this: Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url] says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste the link. This: Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url] makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I want to know what else you have to say about it. To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you clicked a link because someone basically said “click this link”? I never do, and I’m sure most people don’t, because I have absolutely no idea what the link goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the app, and the app’s name, provides that missing information and will, it seems to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I’m off base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I’m more than fine with you guys posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in. On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group
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Come on people! They are trying only to get attention!!! This is called suspense! I agree that they should mention app name in message, but we could have said a little nicely... They are only trying to help us... After all, whats the delete key for? I really like these reviews and the only thing i ask is the app name be put so people know what they are clicking. Was i not nice? Well, apologies, not towards anyone! Let's all smile haha! Sent from my super iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Alex for that input I really do appreciate it. You are very right. I do not click on links that say click here to read full post. I will try and do a better job with these in the future. Scott Rumery On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. However, this: Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url] says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste the link. This: Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url] makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I want to know what else you have to say about it. To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you clicked a link because someone basically said “click this link”? I never do, and I’m sure most people don’t, because I have absolutely no idea what the link goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the app, and the app’s name, provides that missing information and will, it seems to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I’m off base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I’m more than fine with you guys posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in. On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Hi Scott. Thanks for this. Alex said it better than ai. It will be nice to know a little bit about what one can expect when they go to a link. Thanks for making them and a short description available. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Rumery Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Thank you Alex for that input I really do appreciate it. You are very right. I do not click on links that say click here to read full post. I will try and do a better job with these in the future. Scott Rumery On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. However, this: Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url] says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste the link. This: Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url] makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I want to know what else you have to say about it. To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you clicked a link because someone basically said click this link? I never do, and I'm sure most people don't, because I have absolutely no idea what the link goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the app, and the app's name, provides that missing information and will, it seems to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I'm off base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I'm more than fine with you guys posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in. On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new
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Well, it is amazing, how many things people want to complain about. I, on the other hand, have been accurately guessing which app they chose from each promo message. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jan 2014, at 11:32, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote: Then why can't they be a bit more up front about their promos? Putting their messages at the top of the email instead of the bottom, and simply telling us what they want us to know would be the polite thing to do. Don't you think? DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! These posts and blog entries are coming from Fedora Outlier and How to be blind, both respected groups in this field and on this list. I'm sure they're trying to encourage traffic to their sites, and their articles have a drum roll please feel to them to try to build suspense. I don't have a problem with these messages coming to the list as is. I don't think hitting the delete key on five messages so far, and ten in total, is that big a deal if you aren't interested. I also don't think hitting enter to follow a link is that much hardship on anyone who is interested. The site is simply laid out and easy to navigate with a browser. On 01/26/2014 02:36 PM, Tess wrote: Lol, I thought this was spam mail getting through the list, so, I was auto deleting them. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Hall *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Cc:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Well said, and I completely agree. Just the apps name, and a few sentences about what it does, would be wonderful. As it is, I, too, will not open these links. As it stands, these emails sound more like questionable promotions than helpful messages. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 14:54, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote: Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I've gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I'm not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcy Weinberg *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT (tm) consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com mailto:ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
This is what i call much ado about nothing. Folks have too much idel time on their hands. Andy -Original Message- From: Nimit Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Come on people! They are trying only to get attention!!! This is called suspense! I agree that they should mention app name in message, but we could have said a little nicely... They are only trying to help us... After all, whats the delete key for? I really like these reviews and the only thing i ask is the app name be put so people know what they are clicking. Was i not nice? Well, apologies, not towards anyone! Let's all smile haha! Sent from my super iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Alex for that input I really do appreciate it. You are very right. I do not click on links that say click here to read full post. I will try and do a better job with these in the future. Scott Rumery On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I don’t think anyone here is trying to put down the work you guys have done, and yes, website traffic is the goal of most blogs and similar services. However, this: Check out this app, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps list: [url] says nothing except that you only had time to type up a sentence and then paste the link. This: Check out Sendero GPS, number 6 on our Top Ten Apps! With Sendero GPS, you can plan routes, explore distant locations, discover nearby points of interest, figure out where you are, and so much more! Check out our review: [url] makes me really want to know more, because that sounds like a great app and I want to know what else you have to say about it. To be very clear: I have no problem whatsoever with you guys posting these app picks here, and I even welcome it as it lets newer list members in on some possibly useful tools for them to go try. However, when is the last time you clicked a link because someone basically said “click this link†? I never do, and I’m sure most people don’t, because I have absolutely no idea what the link goes to and if it is worth it. Giving us just a one-sentence summary of the app, and the app’s name, provides that missing information and will, it seems to me, make people more likely to click through to the website. Maybe I’m off base here, but those are my opinions. Again, I’m more than fine with you guys posting content like this, and would suggest doing it more than once a year, but you may want to look at how you are trying to draw people in. On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Christopher, As the Senior Partner at Fedora Outlier I thought long and hard about having anybody from the firm posting about these daily blogs to this list just because I was worried about this type of negative reaction. Our team has been working very hard on this list and you are 100% correct when you say that we are trying to get some attention for our website. If I am not mistaken this is what is done every day on the Internet, and because our list is talking about iOS apps I thought that there would be some people on this list that might enjoy reading our posts. Let me clue everyone into how this list has developed. Each one of our team members picked one of the apps in the list and then wrote up a post about that app. This way we were assured of having very different styles of writing which in my opinion would make for some interesting reading. I believe that we have accomplished this. When you make the statement that this list has a drum role feel to it you hit the nail right on the head. This is the whole point of any kind of a countdown. Finally, everyone on this list or any other list in which people post blog snip its in order to get people to go to their websites have the right not to click that link or to just delete the post, however, I do not think that it is fair for those of us who are working very hard on trying to create content that hopefully the community will like, should be ridiculed for just trying to get noticed. I have said my peace on this and I would hope that others on this list will not hold my words against me if I have said anything in this message to offend them. Believe me, if I did then I apologize because it was not my intent. Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com
Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Hi Neal and others And there is just the fact that some of us are so busy that we hav not got the time to go to a site and find out what's it all about, so a discription should help a lot. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:54 PM Subject: RE: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! Hi, If you are wanting to tell us about an app, please give us some information about it so we know if we even want to go to the web page to check it out. This sounds more like a high powered sales pitch that tries to force the user to go to the site with very little trouble on your part. I’ve gotten about three of these in the last few days and I have not, and will not, bother to go there unless I know it is of worth to me. I’m not suggesting that others should do the same by any means, but come on, why should I really care what makes your top 10 apps all that worthwhile unless you take the time to give me at least some basic information. Neal From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this! -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Moderator Note -was- Re: Taking a walk? Don't leave home without this!
Hi all, Apologies for the delay in this posting. OMG! I cannot believe the bandwidth generated from this completely innocent, well-meaning and helpful original topic. Before I get started here, let me just establish that not only should this thread be closed now but if you feel you really need to snipe back at me for this post, either do it off-list or you will not be allowed to post here again, no questions asked. I welcome your comments off the list (agree or disagree) but not on the list. So remember, when you click send, if you simply want to spout off against me, the list or its policies, make sure it is a private note to me or Raul. Okay, now that that is out of the way, for those who are comparing this to some kind of 'high-powered' sales pitch? Respectfully, you seem not to have experienced a true high-powered pitch. This thread was nothing of the sort and the incredible amount of unnecessary and negative traffic this has generated is simply over the top and not welcome here. I love this community but for God's sake, it never ceases to amaze me the kinds of things people will look for to complain about and the vehemence with which the complaints are put forth. I'm simply saying 'enough!' Move on and leave this. the original poster and blog were trying to offer something constructive and useful and instead of responses in that spirit, much of what has made up this thread is just negative noise. My personal apologies go out to everyone behind the blog where this article is hosted as well as to the people who have supported the poster's right to post here. This type of thing is perfectly legit on this list. If anyone has any questions or issues in future, where they find themselves concerned whether or not a message may or may not be spam; 1 Consider writing us, the list moderators. (myself and Raul) 2 Consider writing the poster themselves if you know that they are a legitimate list participant. Otherwise see number 1 above. 3 Ignore the message and move on. Simple as that. None of the above options includes taking it upon yourself to righteously call the poster(s) out and essentially publicly chastise them. I hope this makes this crystal clear so we do not run into this on-list again. If you have concerns with list policies, they should be taken up with me or Raul. Now, know that we both do have lives so do not expect your concerns to get answers or responses right away. -And, for the record, if you just want to yell through your keyboard or try to call me out, then guess what, while I absolutely will read what you have to say, don't expect a response. I will spend my time positively working with people here who want to carry on intelligent and constructive conversations, who have points they'd like to make which are honestly important to them and which impact their lives as they use this list on a day-to-day basis. Those are the folks I have time for. If you feel that I've not gotten back with you when I should have then please please please understand that I do get a lot of email and notes do get lost from time to time. So by all means write me more than once if need be. I simply want what is best for this list and every person on it. So please have patience and know that I will do my very best to make this experience a good one for you all. :) Thanks for reading and remember, please respond to this to me privately if you feel you would like to. :) Thanks and have a great night and wonderful week! Smiles, Cara :) On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Marcy Weinberg marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com wrote: -- Marcy weinberg Junior Partner Fedora Outlier, LLC Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support website Phone: 888-958-6979 ext.3801 Fax: 888-467-2162 ma...@fedoraoutlier.com Twitter Facebook blog newsletter Hello, everyone, It's Sunday, and what a great day for an afternoon stroll. Even if it's cold out, a nice walk in the brisk air is quite rejeuvenating. But before you venture out, check out the app that made it to number 5 on Fedora Outlier's Top 10 Apps Of 2013. You don't want to miss this! Directions to app #5, start here, http://bit.ly/1fo84ka Have a terrific day! Marcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
